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MM's avatar
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Agree 100% Caitlin.

For context:

Ed Sheeran: An amoral celebrity worth $400 million.

Jethro Sheeran (Ed's cousin): "Finally the world and all his fans see through him. He’s not a good person, I don’t like his music so I can’t say he’s even a good artist.

He’s honestly a selfish individual with malicious, cunning ways. ‘He kills you with kindness’ (His Words) I’m his first blood cousin and he screwed me over, made fun of my mental health and mental health in general.”

https://www.instagram.com/p/DdY250ejX9u/?img_index=4

I'll say it again: Fuck that coward Ed Sheeran

Tom High's avatar

The crocodile tears coming from likes of the genocide-deniers and both-siders like Seinfeld and Pink, and even the sarcastic bile tears from the Bill Mahers of the world, give me great pleasure, as an indication of their fearful desperation, as the curtain is pulled back further and further towards revealing reality, and away from the mendacious lies of a criminal enterprise. The more they whine, the more their world is collapsing.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

Both sidesing genocide is so wrong. Ed Sheeran is going to be very ashamed of this stupid stance, just like others who did the same thing, whether celebrities, ordinary people or anyone in between.

After the dust has settled and this whole situation has ended, it will be like after Nazi Germany when every claimed they were always against it.

But the rest of us will know better.

Any kind of support or diminishment of the horror of genocide is reprehensible, and not being able to figure that out is a moral failure.

MM's avatar

Unfortunately, the only thing Ed Sheeran is ashamed about is not having an opening act on his tour.

Chang Chokaski's avatar

CJ>>"I strongly disagree with the idea that it’s unhelpful to bully celebrities about their position on Palestine. On the contrary, I think we should bully them more."

I'm 100% with you on this, Caitlin & Tim (for all the excellent reasons you mention and more)! 💯👍🙏❤️

Feral Finster's avatar

Gotta let the little turd know that this is not acceptable.

Scott Siegling's avatar

100% correct as usual. Thank you for your work on trying to restore humanity to the equation ❤️

dale ruff's avatar

As a pacifist, who tries to live with compassion, I just want to say: to use force to stop violence is NOT violence but its cure. I would not say to bully rich hypocrites, whether popular stars or tycoons, but to push back to stop their violence.

Violence violates our moral code (to do the least harm the most good), whereas using force, whether physical, verbal, or collective pressure, does not violate morality but enforces it protects it. I do not find the use of force to defeat violence to be contradictory to the ethical agenda of reducing suffering. So let's really fuck em up good!

Jack Robertson's avatar

Celebrity - fame - is the diabolical bastard spawn of banal mass media epistemology. That means it's a choice. As an artist, if you're talented and lucky with your timing and your artwork (whatever it is) happens to strike a universal chord with a big audience, good luck to you. But you either can choose to buy into the celebrity side - the leveragable stuff of fame that scales way beyond your artistic capacity to reach your audience on your own, directly, up close and in real time - or you can eschew it. You can be the finest troubador who ever wrote a song of real genius, and still simply choose not to play it anywhere but in small localised venues who aren't going to ban you for your lyrics. Or if they do, there are a dozen others within spitting distance who will open their doors to you.

No-one ever said being lucky enough to be gifted great artistry should automatically entitle you to live like a fucking trillion-dollar hedge fund trader or the CEO of a global arms manufacturer. Or a King, or a Sultan, or a fucking banking or Hollywood mogul.

I'm fucking sick of mass media celebrity culture. In its entirety. It's dominated (and destroyed) our concept of 'art' and 'creativity' and what it means to find the truly universal in artwork, and simply share it with an audience who can see it and value it for what it is: something for us all to share a part in, and together celebrate solely on its merits.

Sick of how we have come to triage and benchmark artistic success; creative originality and the new genuine Human connections it can forge. By the miserable, ersatz metric of its monetisable, massed adulation. Art that's mostly 'famous' for being 'great art' because someone, somewhere, invariably with power and wealth, decided to apply the banal industrialised mechanics of scale distribution and amplification to it. Almost always hijacking it, and clumsily diminishing it, even as they pumped it full of their cynical, artificial growth chemicals.

I've met a hundred singer-songwriters, over forty years of playing local gigs, who frankly shit all over Ed Sheeran as artists. Shit all over the over-amplified, over-distributed stadium imposters, however authentic they may have started out. Shit all over almost all the famous 'music industry artists' you and I have heard of - many of whose work, sure, I like and admire, too, for the best reasons, that still endure and linger despite their over-renown. But I do not idolise - and do not iconise - such artists out of all proportion to their artwork's power to say something to me, up close and personal (if such does survive their fame). That kind of idolatry is just the banal smoke-and-mirrors trick of mass media epistemology shaking me down, duping us all into mistaking what is usually, at best, mostly just honest artistic craft and toil - some great, some just good, plenty very fucking ordinary - for b/s words like 'genius'.

Fuck fame. It kills. It kills art, it kills ideas, it kills creative Humanity. Fuck fame, and fuck the famous. All of them. They're welcome to enjoy the fruits of it if they choose. But they need to know this: it comes at a cost, now: the cost of accountability. The more globally famous - the richer, the more privileged, the more bubbled away from your audience - you decide to let your art make you, by shackling it to the mass media mechanics that are really the trick to 'fame'...the higher will become that cost.

No-one rides for Fame Train for free anymore, all you rich, famous 'artists'. Get used to it.

Get the fuck used to it.

dale ruff's avatar

Fame can kill, but not all: Miro was not killed by fame, nor Dolly Parton for that matter. Judge people not by their fame or lack of fame but by how they use it.

Bob Martin's avatar

You can't actually bully a celebrity like Sheeran, but you can stop fawning over and financially supporting them, which by contrast makes them FEEL like they're being bullied. Sheeran and his ilk royally deserve that treatment!

Patrick Powers's avatar

I believe that freedom of speech includes freedom to remain silent. Put that energy instead into organizing to elect an AIPAC-free Congress. That would really make a difference.

Peter Giaschi's avatar

Especially when they're Ed Sheeran. Bully the shit out of that overrated simp.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

Pleasing plutocrats to "achieve" some position within their structure. This is not a life that can possibly be construed as creative, regardless of the songs or whatever other half-assed medium the celebrities vomit out to thrill their mind-addled fans.

Red Brown's avatar

Is this even a question?

DawnieR's avatar

I hope that all WOULD know, that all of these 'Celebrities', ARE 'Celebrities' because they (literally) 'SOLD THEIR SOUL' to become one!

And that they WILL do ANYTHING, to remain that way!!

99.99% of them aren't even HUMAN!