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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

"I'm supposed to hate a country for saying "Death to America"? I yell that during sex." :))))) Thanks for providing the highlight of my day!

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

I was gonna say the same thing...and that it reminds me of a T-shirt i used to have, till it fell apart. it was black, with a red image on the front of the shape of all of North America, and the words were US OUT of North America. I'm a US citizen but i certainly agree with that sentiment. These days i often wonder if there is any country that would take older US refugees, and that isn't also afflicted with the same disease. Plus I don't want to give up the homestead I've been working on for 17 years.If the US got out I could leave this horrible country without having to move.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

I tried to retire to Spain - Brexit screwed that up for me. So here I am in UK plc again. The Egyptian writer Naguib Mahfouz was threatened by Islamic extremists in his country, to which he said that he had no intention of going anywhere, so they'd have to come for him. He died in hospital after a fall (he was 94). I find his courage inspirational and a lesson in how to deal with fascist bullies everywhere.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Miei genitori (my parents) were born in Italy, so by rights, I applied for an Italian passport back in the early 00s, figuring I'd escape the US upon retirement. They didn't want me, were wholesale rejecting Americans that year. Now, it looks like it probably wouldn't have made much difference, given the extreme warmongering coming out of the EU. Entire West is hopeless.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

White people = colonial delusions of grandeur. If only it were not so. I understood the Italian, btw - one of the benefits of having studied Spanish.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

One thing one can say pretty much identically in both languages about our lovely country and its warmongering: Non conosco lo. I do not understand it.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Yes. No lo entiendo. Except that I do understand it in a way - it's all about the money, as General Smedley Butler famously pointed out!

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JennyStokes's avatar

Why did the UK abandon Latin which I was taught in school?

IF you learn Latin it is a 'gateway' into understanding language AND spelling.

How many people in the USA learned Latin?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Two years, Jenny. Caesar and Cicero required. I passed on year three, Virgil, for extra year of French, but maybe should've stayed with Virgil the poet. Only benefit of French was for scientific French reading comp exam I had to pass in grad school; can speak it only a pittance, understand natives not worth a damn. Unlike Italian, where because my nonna spoke it to my toddler brain, as I posted on substack, I can converse with natives; what a difference early brain language exposure makes!!!!! I'm a preacher for this. Sorry to go off.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

I did Latin in school and oh boy - that grammar! However, it does make us more aware. especially of the rich Latin vocabulary that English enjoys. I helped me with French and Spanish.

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Bradley Lacke's avatar

this comment just alleviated twenty five years of me agonizing over my family having lost all their immigration records in the '30-40s, preventing me from emigrating to Italy. Guess it wouldn't have turned out different. For that, grazie.

Maybe Italy is only taking rich live laugh love women at this point

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have only one answer. The American people are dumb and thought their Empire would last forever.

NO Empire lasts forever.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

SO true - why do we never seem to learn from history?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I wish I knew, my friend. Because I didn't have dad's but I did mail a photocopy of mom's birth certificate from the City of Genoa to the consulate in San Fran. Made no difference. But I didn't lie. Had it been now, I could've said my Italian was good enough to teach Biology in the native tongue or English, but it really wasn't good enough back then; perhaps I should've fibbed; perhaps it's the way of the world.

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@smokygirl2006's avatar

If I could I would leave the US in a heartbeat, but for my family. I would love to see Russia and so I would allude to the fact that what I had been reading about that it was a neat place. My sister-in-law lectured me one evening when we were out that I was elevating Russia over the US and she asked me why was I doing that and did I have some guy or someone in Russia. It was so ridiculous. My point being Americans are too propagandized. Even my Dad said the only two countries that have threatened the US are Iran & North Korea (something like that) and that Iran shouts, “Death to America”(heard this before on and on, got the t-shirt, lol). I told him about the coup in 1953 CIA, MI6 and Mossad carried out to install the shah, brutal dictator but friends with the West, all b/c Iran’s democratically elected PM wanted to nationalize Iranian oil. He didn’t want to listen, but he still doesn’t want to go to war with Iran.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

The grass often seems greener on the other side, but in reality it rarely is. All places have their pros and cons.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Yep - when you get there, other humans are there AGAIN.... :))))

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

It's difficult, isn't it? I stayed in the UK due to family responsibilities, and when I finally got the chance to move on and move out, I found that enough of my compatriots had been persuaded that the EU was the root of all our woes thanks to a privately-educated former banker who masquerades as "working class" by standing in pubs with a pint in his hand ..... and that the opportunity no longer existed. I will die furious about it, of course!

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

We don't call it brainwashing for no good reason. Your SIL is a classic example of its efficacy.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

SIL?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

sister-in-law.

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jill chambers's avatar

situation in life ?

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russian_bot's avatar

Seems like many here who still have sex now wonder if they do it properly.

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Bradley Lacke's avatar

I haven't had the chance in a while so what I'm doing instead is rethinking all the previous sex I had

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

To quote Woody Allen, it's only dirty if you're doing it right.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

:))))

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Mary's avatar

😂

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Bradley Lacke's avatar

it was a great fucking line

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Craig Browne's avatar

That is gold! Lol

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Would it really matter if Americans voted against a war? The US government is like a chariot from the chariot races scene in Ben Hur, with the Black Horses of Zionist Armageddon dragging the dribbling moron charioteer around in a circle, be it Trump or some other buffoon vomited up by Zionist money as an "acceptable candidate", carefully groomed such that his or her short-hairs have been under the Mossad microscope for years.

Elections in America, Bwahahahaha.

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RainyNights's avatar

@Vin,

I could clearly see nothing had changed….Donnie defending Diseaserael over one of his American AND Christian voters. It was never about MAGA & all about MiGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF02fX39K-U

These men that never take money from the Synagogue of Satan are never allowed to be presidents. Still, they are a tiny breadth of fresh air as the world suffocates daily in the sulphur winds of the Talmudists.

https://t.me/AussieCossack/37558

IMO….the USA is too far gone. The ‘Terrible Twins’ are at it again.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

"sulphur winds of the Talmudists", You should copyright that one. And, of course, no one with Massie's bold stance on AIPAC "handlers" will be allowed to end up in any position of real influence because it is universally MIGA uber alles. One has to respect the man, and despise almost all of the rest of them, who claim political independence, all the while knowing that any thinking person recognizes their profusion of lies.

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RainyNights's avatar

You made me smile. I don’t know about “copyright” but at least Vin, you can say I coined the phrase - “the sulphur winds of the Talmudists”.

Wishing you God’s blessings!

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JennyStokes's avatar

Lock up the MSM (Mainstream Media) Journalists. They COULD have prevented this genocide.

Time to name names I think.

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Eddie's avatar

MSM and Hillary Clinton created the Russia-Ukraine War, and propped up an elected(?) clown named Zelenskyy. I wouldn't be surprised if this was designed to distract us away from Israel's genocide on purpose.

As for who I would like to see locked up first, I nominate Rachel Maddow and everyone at the Morning Joe show, and then everyone who has ever worked for Fox News.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I got shot of my WAPO account a long time ago. Cannot remember the names of the dim-witted bunch of phoney Journalists. I am going to HAVE to remember.

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RainyNights's avatar

@Eddie,

Yes. And during the Maidan, Ukraine killings ( February 2914), Talmudist Victoria “Fuck EU” Nuland gave out cookies & sandwiches to the subversive killers that burnt people alive.

Starts @0:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbjNJbjEy04

I don’t give one rat’s arse I am going to going to say what I’m going to say— wherever these Talmudists are - demonic strife accompanies them closely.

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RainyNights's avatar

Ooops… sorry meant to type 2014 I mistyped & typed ‘2913’.

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CK's avatar

JennyStokes,

Blame not the MSM journalists.

Blame their editors and owners and advertisers.

Most of the MSM journalists are merely flunky employees who are “just” doing what they’re told to do.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Oh......lordy lordy lordy! Resign?

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CK's avatar

Easier said than done.

Some who resign may never be employed as journalists, again.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

That's what I blame them for. And they are very well paid to obey.

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CK's avatar

Fair point.

And, journalists who expose the truth are not well paid, have difficulty getting employment, and are targeted for assassination or “unfortunate” accidents.

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John Turcot's avatar

At the income some the mainstream media get paid, you would have to lock up everybody cause all of them (us actually) would take their place in a Mew York second.

At 35 million per year, and millions and millions and millions for others, you would a replacement lined-up from Texas to Seattle.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

I wouldn't take their place at all.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Keep calling them out!

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John Turcot's avatar

Won’t be anybody left…. Would you turn down 35 million a year … ?

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JennyStokes's avatar

IF I was asked to write lies of course. Money doesn't bring happiness.

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John Turcot's avatar

Then you're a better person than me.... Not only would I accept 35 million in a heartbeat, but I would write and voice every lie that would please my benefactors. That way, my gown-up children would no longer have to face eviction every few years for failing to pay the owners of the planet their ransoms.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

People like you are the problem.

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JennyStokes's avatar

This is the problem with people ....no morality.

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ikester8's avatar

Hold up. Who, individually, is getting $35 million a year as a Zionist stenographer?

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John Turcot's avatar

Sean Hannity 45 million

Rachel Maddow 30 million

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Feral Finster's avatar

Don't kid yourself. Those who went along with the lies leading up to The War On Iraq suffered in no wise, not politically, not professionally, not personally.

They are still held up as Serious Thinkers and Foreign Policy Heavyweights, even though none of their rosy predictions came true, and Iraq turned out worse than even the most pessimistic naysayers warned.

By contrast, those with any integrity were cast into Outer Darkness.

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@realRodster's avatar

They might be despised but the "useful idiots" far out number those that are onto Isra-Hell's game. You have people like US Senator Ted Cruz who has taken millions in campaign money from the Israeli lobby telling Tucker Carlson that "God blesses those that love Israel because it's in the Bible" (paraphrase).

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RainyNights's avatar

@realRodster,

AND Cruz ( what a last name! means “Cross” in Spanish ) said in Tucker’s interview “I explicitly came to Congress to be a staunch supporter of 🤢 “ .

Ted’s ‘religion’ was also bought by the Talmudists.

https://youtube.com/shorts/4YgM2dswgdw?si=BQmXKRbvIMKUdjvH

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Joseph Cullen's avatar

“Americans aren’t allowed to vote against war”! There’s enough truth in that statement to make one question what the hell is America really all about anyway!!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"what the hell is America really all about anyway"

IMO, America is about "Socialism for the rich" and "Capitalism for everyone else".

To expand:

In reality, what is practiced in the U.S. is "socialism/welfare of corporations and the rich".

There are so many subsidies, tax breaks, and all sorts of special privileges going to corporations (with all their lobbying) and the 1% that the US has become an example of the most extreme forms of socialism (again for the few, not the many - i.e. for corporations and the privileged")

The biggest sources of corporate welfare/socialism are:

(1) Wall Street & banks - in terms of "too big to fail" (everyone is familiar with the bailouts and the direct intervention of the Federal Reserve (which is a private bank btw) in injecting liquidity into undeserving entities and propping up financial markets during crashes, etc. with taxpayer funds)

(2) Pharmaceutical industry (Big Pharma) - in terms of the huge amounts of basic research that the taxpayers pay for and that the corporations "monopolize/reap the benefits of" with their patent/intellectual property laws

(3) Dept. of Defense expenditures and the US's "forever wars" - conflicts and military expenditures like in Afghanistan/Iraq/.... examples etc. are all funded by taxpayers in which lucrative contracts are given out to corporations, private contractors, etc. with "zero" positive benefits for the average person (unless you include a false sense of security and stability). And these entities have an extremely low effective tax rate of less than 10%.

The US govt. in providing all sorts of benefits for the people at the very top - CEOs, major investors, etc. For example, the typical CEO today is making 320 times what the typical worker is making. I haven't seen that extreme a ratio, since the 1920s. (the go-go years before the crash of 1929 and The New Deal)

You've got these megalomaniac corporations that are just riding the stock market up and making things worse with stock buy-backs and repurchase plans. And the public is paying for this. They have (through lobbying and other means) even convinced a big portion of the public that "you don't want to tax corporations because that would stymie innovation, stymie the economy, increase layoffs, etc.

This is just plain and simple baloney. In reality, it keeps big companies fat and happy, and makes it difficult for smaller competitors to get in. It reduces the number of startups in terms of the economy because these big players get so many benefits that the small competitors really don't even have a chance. (This is a strategy practiced obsessively by "Big Tech")

This "Corporate Welfare" that is practiced in America is a subset of "socialism for the rich". The people at the top have no accountability and shy away from any kind of responsibility whatsoever. This is absolutely the worst form of socialism.

I could go on forever on this topic, but I will spare everyone my vitriol. 😃

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Hello comrade Chang, No argument from me either ( plagiarising our fellow commentator, Joseph Cullen ). That Marxism conference has invigorated you!

America is ripe for a revolution... or is it? Or is that why the warmongers have taken over.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes, the U.S. is ripe for a revolution, but unfortunately, the TRUE LEFT has been demolished over the last 50 years by the forces of Capitalism.

So I ask the same question that Lenin asked, “What is to be done?” now?

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Joseph Cullen's avatar

No argument here comrade!

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Nick's avatar

World War 3 has already started. The media tells us that Trump will be deciding whether to attack Iran. But the decision was already made for him.

The plan is a ‘New World Order’ and they will use the war in the Middle East to bring in global Technocracy - Digital ID’s and Central Bank Digital Currencies. This isn’t a ‘conspiracy theory’, it’s Conspiracy Fact.

I sometimes feel frustrated here because the bigger picture is not being recognised.

And we are running out of time, sleep walking into global dystopia.

People in the western world don’t realise that the way of Gaza will be the way of the world…

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denise ward's avatar

People need to stop paying for war and for their so-called representatives. They do not represent us, they represent Israel.

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CK's avatar

Denise Ward,

I don’t pay tax dollars for war. My tax dollars are stolen from me by the government.

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denise ward's avatar

Do you fill out tax forms? Do you use banker's currency? Do you pay interest?

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RainyNights's avatar

Those “two weeks” are for getting war weapons, logistics, etc squared away for Diseaserael

Orange Chump is not fooling us that know.

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denise ward's avatar

Paying taxes means your funding it.

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ikester8's avatar

OK, then, how does one not pay income taxes and not get dragged off to prison? Because that's what almost happened to me when I followed some "patriot" who claimed the income tax was unconstitutional. It may well be, but the IRS wasn't buying the argument.

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RainyNights's avatar

Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar ( worldly obligations).

Give God what belongs to God ( spiritual responsibilities ).

God is higher for me, than Caesar.

Also, I am not funding genocidaires voluntarily.

I am praying voluntarily for the Palestinians. Daily.

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denise ward's avatar

It's great that you have the empathy for a people being bombarded. Can you imagine the horror being in that? I posit that god is another figment of imagination. This time is testing for all of us, question ALL your beliefs and match them up to reality. It is of course not enough to pray, it's a bit of a cop out too if I may say. It sounds like you feel like you're doing something for the situation when it's really fooling yourself. We need to do tangible change - to our thinking at this time. If we are funding this system then it means funding our own bondage. That's the reality.

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RainyNights's avatar

I have said here before. Though, I have never tried or thought to “convert” atheists, to my belief in God/ Christ, as I believe they have the absolute right to be atheists, I don’t argue with atheists about my religion nor God. Nor do I listen to atheist views on God.

I don’t consider praying a ‘cop out’. Nor ‘not enough’. To a believer praying helps. I don’t accept nor welcome veiled conversions to atheism. Example:

“you’re fooling yourself” meaning I should not believe in God . I would never say to an atheist like yourself ‘you don’t know the comfort of knowing God is with you’. That’s invasive into personal matters. Also, telling a believer in God, that God is a ‘figment of imagination’, frankly is another veiled way of calling somebody ‘crazy’ , ‘delusional’. Again, rude & invasive.

Though I can try to imagine ‘the horror of being in that’ ( bombardments in Gaza), I will always fail. As everyone who has never been exactly in that position cannot imagine either. We can try though, but it’s like witnessing somebody getting a limb amputated with no anesthesia. No imagination can take us to physically feel the horror & brutality of it. It can give one nightmares & a revulsion in the soul. I have felt lots of soul nausea witnessing the genocide of Gaza.

Funding our system is indeed a bondage. However, we all have to pay taxes.

I don’t disclose in the internet with strangers how I have helped Muslims, whom I’ll remind you, have dedicated an entire chapter in the Quran, to the Virgin Mary & are also strong believers that Jesus Christ is one of their very important prophets, but not the Son of God, as we Christians believe.

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denise ward's avatar

You sound like a really good person. We are many. But I am sure that if we keep funding them, they will keep going. Ok so you think everyone has to fund them, but they don't. However what you mean is if you want to avoid the fear of them taking everything from you. I understand, however we need to talk about it and not accept that it can't be done. Because if we accept that, then we won't do anything!

I think religion ought to be questioned just like every other topic. Why not? What is this thing that says it can't be? People hold beliefs and if many people do that means it will probably have an impact on others. To me it's difficult to hear that people give their power away to something that is purely mythical, to something you learned about and has been passed down. It's not something you would know about if you didn't learn about it, if you weren't indoctrinated into it. And what it does is ensure we won't see the realm we're in clearly, and it will go on that we will live in an illusion.

I defend everyone's right to believe anything they want. But it is our duty to question each other when things don't make sense.

The worse thing that doesn't make sense is that we accept the intentional killing of our own kind. That causes many ills in society that are not recognized, such as pedophilia. I believe that's why pedophilia exists, because we kill our own kind. Which is totally anti-biological and heartless to say the least.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"...Digital ID’s and Central Bank Digital Currencies...."

This is not the real problem. This is simply a symptom of the unfolding of events in 'late-stage Capitalism' as corporations (and states) become more authoritarian in their attempts to continue trying to increase profits within a model (and a planet) that does not support endless growth.

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Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

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Nancy's avatar

Let’s not forget that in 1953, the U.S. and U.K. orchestrated a coup against Iran’s democratically elected and secular prime minister, Mohammed Mosaddegh, all because he had the audacity to insist that Iran be able to keep a larger share of its own oil. And that we then supported the Shah, who murdered his own people.

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Neil Anderson's avatar

Optimistic. Supporters of the Iraq slaughter still sleep peacefully in their beds.

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Steven Marriott's avatar

Was I sleeping while others suffered. Am I sleeping now.Tomorrow when I wake ,or think I do,what shall I say of today SB.

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Wonder Verse's avatar

Somehow I don't think the people complicit in this care about other human lives or truth or social integrity so shame won't cone into it.

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Eddie's avatar

There's a special place in Hell for supporters of terrorism and genocide, even if I have to transform into a demon and send them there myself.

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misterkel's avatar

"I’m supposed to hate a country for saying “Death to America”? I yell that during sex."

So, what's your phone number? ;}

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gypsy33's avatar

😂😂😂

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Fuck Israel supporters.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

If Israel wins, Caitlin you will be wrong.

Israel will be looked up to. it will be admired.

I don't think Israel will win, but.... Let us take a turn.

People admire the rich -- because they are rich. Few care how they got rich.

Listen to Chris Hedges explain why he despises the rich. It was because he was allowed access to their inner sanctums and was able to experience the depravity. People who are wondering how they are going to make their next mortgage payment only want to be rich -- whatever the emotional cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-OSJ7J64w&

If Israel disappears tomorrow, the rich will still be here. The stain of having supported Israel will be washed away, maybe in as little as 24 hours. The "Jewish Mafia", well represented by AIPAC, will still control the American media.

Another "twist"...

I've been asking for more Luigis. But as his story plays out, I find myself questioning his motive. He was part of a rich family. Perhaps he is just a member of the Oligarchy that is fighting amongst itself. The Italian mob trying to regain supremacy over the Jewish mob.

No matter.

The rich will still be here. Capitalism will still be celebrated. Israel will be forgotten. No one will care. Israel will once again become some touchstone that fervent Christian pastors will rail about every Sunday as they "fleece the flock".

I'm stuck in an economic system I know is immoral but is my reality. Do I really want the "Luigi faction" to take over? "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

Yeah, get rid of the "Jewish Mafia" and then... ????

No one (with any power) cares about Israel.

They walked away from Vietnam.

They walked away from Iraq (twice).

They walked away from Panama.

They walked away from Libya.

They walked away from Serbia

They walked away from Georgia.

They walked away from Chechnya.

They walked away from Syria.

They are now, walking away from Ukraine.

If Israel loses, Within 6 months, "No one cares about Israel."

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RainyNights's avatar

I am not looking to argue about your beliefs nor mine.

The Talmudists will always care about Diseaserael.

Their Throne of Satan is on it & Satan is their monarch.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

"When one says they’re a descendant of Jacob, it’s a religious and cultural claim, not a genetic or historical one."

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/critique-israel-responsibly

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