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Vin LoPresti's avatar

We cannot have any illusions about the nature of the West and the pathological commitment to continued white supremacy. That commitment, unstated but in times of crisis increasingly stated in the West, has always been the fuel for the fascism at the heart of its civilizational project.

—Ajamu Baraka, 3-19-25 BAR

https://www.blackagendareport.com/israeli-fascism-fueled-us-and-european-white-supremacy

Baraka tells us to make no mistake -- What Trump and Israel are doing is a white supremacist fascist project. But Netanyahu is not considered as bad as Hitler because he’s a white European (Semite, my ass) carrying out genocide against brown Arabs -- unlike Hitler who murdered other white people in Europe; which is why he was so hated.

Mussolini, in contrast, wasn’t all that reviled until he joined up with Hitler; before that, Italians, especially the Northerners, were fine with his colonialism in Ethiopia, murdering brown people with Italian warplanes.

As a white man, it pains me to say it: A whole lot of shite comes out of white supremacy on planet earth.

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Rod Dawson's avatar

It is impossible to support Israel without supporting its fundamentally racist contention that some lives matter more than others. That Israeli 'ubermenschen' have the racist right to murder Palestinian/Arab 'untermenschen', and steal their land. The West's support for Israel shows, clearly and openly, that they must have the same awful belief.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Paint the White house Black. Baraka/2028 /4 Peace and Justice. Blow back is a bitch. Cancel Israel 4 Peace.

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Diane Engelhardt's avatar

Blood red would be more appropriate!

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JennyStokes's avatar

NO. Black with blood dripping of the roof??

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JennyStokes's avatar

Giant spray guns and black paint.............wonderful.

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SaHiB's avatar

IshaRaElis don't admit to being "white".

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Neither I nor you nor anyone else with a brain should give a fuck what they admit to, since they lie just about every time their lips move. They are mostly white Europeans of Ashkenazim Jewish heritage, with a small minority of actual Semitic Jewish and Arab Israeli citizen mixed in.

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SaHiB's avatar

Purportedly why they don't. They deify the Asiatic and Swasian component of their heritage. However, "Semitic" means boasting of their fame, renown, and power.

"Shem" H8035 (see also H8034) שֵׁם just means name, fame, renown.

שׂוּם (H7760) through the idea of definite and conspicuous position? Appointed?

That son later became known as Melchizedek.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I'll take your word for the biblical/Hebraic allusions because I have no interest in wasting my time with ancient fables of any genre drawn into the present chaotic state of human affairs to generate more chaos. My Italian heritage is from both North and south Italy, but it's the Sicilian half with red-haired genes in my grandpa. Should I then call myself a Viking because some Norman Vikings landed there in 900 AD and left some sperm behind? Ludicrous and pointless.

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SaHiB's avatar

Just cut the crap if you refuse to learn from myth. Don't use myth-based words such as Semite, Jew, Ashkenazi, Israel, etc.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Semite, Ashkenazi are ethnological identifiers -- describing historical events/migrations and germane to social science. If they're primarily "myth-based" in your opinion, indeed, I have nothing further worth saying to you, except cut the crap of your illusions, regardless of whatever inconceivable smoky void from which they emerge.

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Seismic7's avatar

That's Because isrealis.. ...most Jews do not see themselves as *white** they are a mixed race neo turkic neo Mongolian series of lost intermarried tribes that came from the do called **habiru some day .interrelated to Babylonians pre Iraq..others insist the *habiru*=were inter related with Chaldeans..kerithites.. amelekites**so long ago but remember Abraham was NOT A JEW his earthly father was terah..and idol maker for the Babylonians..fact check it..consequently I intellectual researchers make the correct argument that JEWS. of TODAY HAVE ZERO CONNECTION to the dead lost tribes of ancient little Isreal....something to look very hard at..methodologically since in actual fact all the history of The Jews is absolute fraud* We get it..a lot of Good hearted leftists blame all white people for what Jews did and do...**wrong ****=Isreal and many Jews hate white people's more than they hate Jesus .if that were ..possible*fact..not opinion,**

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

That's the same as some people today don't admit to the sex into which they were born. Saying it doesn't make it true.

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SaHiB's avatar

One either has a 'Y' chromosome, or not. One has a huge number of ancestors.

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

Some individuals have an extra x chromosome. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems, and absolutes are rare at best.

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SaHiB's avatar

Y chromosome determines sex. Those with an extra sex chromosome of either sort are "intersex".

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Diane Engelhardt's avatar

And flowing in torrents into the streets.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi my dear Vin

As an Italian, you are Caucasian but not necessarily “white”, if it makes you feel any better. I maintain that there is an entire sub classification known as “tan” people. I am one of them.

Our people are Mediterranean and West Asian. Our people are dark haired and have swarthy complexions. I do not identify as White (I have some Moorish and Mohawk DNA as well as Mediterranean) even though most of my ancestry is technically Caucasian.

So Vin, drop that WHITE identification! You, like me, are a TAN person! 🥰

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

You're not just whistling Dixie, gypsy my dear. I remember those shirtless summer days in my Thirties out on the public courts in Cambridge Mass with my dear Black friend, Maurice, hitting the fuzzy ball in the sun and humidity, 3 sets of singles then a rest and 3 more of doubles. One day, Maurice looked at me and said, "bro, I know you're not Black, but you sure are a nice shade of brown".

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gypsy33's avatar

😂😂😂!

While I’m tan year-round, I too turn a lovely brown in summer. My doctor, who is from India, has a running joke with me that I make her look white, lol.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Here's another recollection of my "color scheme". Shortly after 9-11, amid all the anti-Muslim furor, I was flying back to New England and back then my hair and beard were still salt-pepper with more dark brown than gray. I got stopped and pulled into a room and questioned for 20 minutes until they checked that I was just some Dago-American, born in NY. I'm still convinced that the combo of skin color, dark beard and hair engendered the perception "Arab" in some transportation cop's mind.

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gypsy33's avatar

Same thing with my SIL’s Greek friend, Vin!

But my frisking in Denver last summer occurred when I was still blonde. I suspect someone didn’t like my online exhortations for revolution 😉

I’ve often wondered if hub’s niece and nephew, his youngest brother’s kids, will have the same issue as you had. Certainly they inherited every drop of my MIL’s Croatian blood; jet-black hair, deep brown eyes and dark skin. They’re absolutely gorgeous.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

You might be on a list, gypsy. If so, congratulations from one revolutionary to another. ✊

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Silvia's avatar

What is a Caucasian? The German anatomist’s version? A race?

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mois78's avatar

You live in a white majority European Christian country. Whether you are black or beige like me. Any comment against the host white nation is a disrespect.

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gypsy33's avatar

Like FUCK I do!

So-called minorities will soon be the MAJORITY.

As far as a a “Christian” nation 😂😂😂 the two larger cities I live between have mosques and Hindu temples. And tell me pal: why can’t the various Christian cults seem to be able to agree on a goddamn thing?

Oh, just FYI… the indigenous people of Amerikka were NOT WHITE.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Vin LoPresti, It was good to read you this morning. Thanks to Caitlin & Tim, like minds can at least commiserate together. I too have known for a long time the truth of the Ajamu Baraka quote you included. White supremacist racism is at the heart of darkness. It is the core of the colonial project.

As Caitlin points out here with Netanyahu/Israel and Trump/USA we are witnessing the colonial project in real time in all its gory details.

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Seismic7's avatar

You wrote a lot of self deluding self immolating nonsense..Sir. write..think speak the word Jew *** not White **and there you have absolutely fixed it**

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

No, I take issue with that. All I need do is change one word in my original comment -- from white man to WHITE AMERICAN. That is my intimate experience of my society growing up in large urban US with a Black friend like a brother and living all over this bloody country; and neither you or anyone else has the wisdom, experience, or right to challenge my life experience of 77 years in this country. You wish to wordsmith your own statement: welcome to it, but please don't tread on mine.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

For the love of God..."We cannot have any illusions about the nature of the West and the pathological commitment to continued white supremacy."... you people have NO CLUE.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Ah two comments that only Bob has answers

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Bob - Enough's avatar

"white supremacy"... what a load of blx. Sick and tired of hearing about it. If you knew what was going on, there is a) a depopulation agenda, b) white genocide ... firstly it will happen by the poor Palestinians fleeing to the the Egypt camps - BUILT.. tyhen c) they will be shipped to the UK and EU.

This IS THE GLOBALIST ELITIST SCUM PLAN... wake tfu and see the bigger picture.

PS I will even go so far as to guess, that Russia will only make peace (Russia = the bad guys hey ??? : lol),if Israel opens it's border with Egypt. The World is a stage

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

And the globalist elite are not a bunch of ultrawhite motherfucker billionaires like Musk, Gates and Bezos? What fucking planet are you living on, Bob? How about YOU waking the fuck up. I'm the one not in denial here. Look in a mirror, pull down your underwear and exult in your white ass. It's undeniably privileged. Which is why you're sick and tired of hearing about it. Fuck you and your protestations that only you know what's going on. Always leading with the ad hominem. I have tried to avoid listing you among the assholes on this thread but you have entirely thwarted my efforts, ASSHOLE.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Well said Vin! (and thank you for that)!

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Thanks, Chang.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

PS You stated = "And the globalist elite are not a bunch of ultrawhite motherfucker billionaires like Musk, Gates and Bezos?"

DO you REALLY BELIEVE that the Globalist elite are known to the likes of me and you ??. Oh wait Biden used to and now Trump rule the US right ???.... THEY ARE PUPPETS.WAKE UP.... we have been played our whole lives and the World is a stage.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

No. Yjey are living in China, Russia and wherever... they are mainly Masonic, members of the club of Rome, believe in depopulation, Eugenics and and..

So a test FOR YOU....

1. Which Country did NOT jab their people from 2,000 ?

2. Which Country is not bringing out the digital currency ?

3. Which Country is not eliminating free speech ?

4. Which Country is NOT selling it's data on me and you to corporations ?

and so on and so on...

This is global

Asfor the whiteness thing... do you even understand that ?. Is your brain large enough to even comprehend it... ?; doubtful. We are close to be the minorities already in our own Countries - can you even comprehend that...? ... but they are bringing in ... in the hundreds of thousand EACH YEAR, fighting and fit young men, as our population gets older and shrinks (UK, EU and US)... are people like you unable to even see this ?

No-one,certainly not me is saying whites are better than any other colourd people of the rainbow... but this a globalist scumbag agenda, becuse WE in Europe and UK will be the firstto fight back against them... so they have to hit us now ... like banning meat and dairy products - to eliminate the threat.

SO take your comment and shove it (no offence)... just wait and see how European Countries turn into a civil war..

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Again, I'm not engaging with your ad hominen bullshit. Is my brain large enough. Again, fuck you. period. Yeah, I get it. NOW, the big money elites are of all races. So fucking what, we're talking the roots of the entire fiasco -- something a superficial individual like you is incapable of (ad hominen back at you, I'm done). Go the fuck away.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

Calm down little one. The real elites (I guess) are those that emanate from places like the Vatican. We will never see or hear from them.

You are no loss to me, you are nothing and dumb... but maybe get a blood test or talk to your doctor hey?; because let me guess ... you have had the jab (1 or more) ... ah well; bye bye baby.Have a good night.

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gypsy33's avatar

Anyone who fucks with Vin (my permanent fiancé!) fucks with ME! 🤬

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

"Bob - Enough" -> Time to educate yourself.

Here is a book that I would highly recommend to understand the underpinnings of White supremacy in the US -> "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" by Isabel Wilkerson (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51152447-caste)

The US is FOUNDED on White Supremacy from the VERY BEGINNING. There are more than enough books, videos, real history, movies, resources, etc. for the FACTUAL EVIDENCE of this.

Some select quotes from the above book ->

(1) “The Nazis were impressed by the American custom of lynching its subordinate caste of African-Americans, having become aware of the ritual torture and mutilations that typically accompanied them. Hitler especially marveled at the American “knack for maintaining an air of robust innocence in the wake of mass death.”

(2) “While the Nazis praised “the American commitment to legislating racial purity,” they could not abide “the unforgiving hardness” under which “ ‘an American man or woman who has even a drop of Negro blood in their veins’ counted as blacks,” Whitman wrote. “The one-drop rule was too harsh for the Nazis.”

(3) “Hitler had studied America from afar, both envying and admiring it, and attributed its achievements to its Aryan stock. He praised the country’s near genocide of Native Americans and the exiling to reservations of those who had survived.”

(4) “By the time that Hitler rose to power, the United States “was not just a country with racism,” Whitman, the Yale legal scholar, wrote. “It was the leading racist jurisdiction—so much so that even Nazi Germany looked to America for inspiration.” The Nazis recognized the parallels even if many Americans did not.”

(5) “White people embrace narratives about forgiveness,” wrote the essayist and author Roxane Gay after the massacre, “so they can pretend the world is a fairer place than it actually is and that racism is merely a vestige of a painful past instead of this indelible part of our present.”

(6) “80 percent of white Americans hold unconscious bias against black Americans, bias so automatic that it kicks in before a person can process it, according to the Harvard sociologist David R. Williams.”

(7) There are too many more...

YOU really need to read this book!

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Chang,

Thank you for this. After reading your response and cooling out, I realized that my much simpler answer to Bob the Brit lay in the fact of my original comment up top -- citing Ajamu Baraka, a Black American. Of course, it's a white supremacist perspective coming out of the US experience of a Black man. I know it up close from my now departed close friend and tennis partner, Maurice, one of the dearest gentlemen ever in my life, who knew that racism as a highly educated Black man come to Boston from the American south; and managed to let me experience some of it.

Bottom line -- this was the US perspective, and Bob went off to the current worldwide situation -- irrelevantly to the entire original premise from Baraka. But wait, there's more. As a Brit, the root grows more deeply from that pre civil war racism to the English (mostly), French and Spanish Christians who did the enslaving of Native, African etc. people. ROOTS. Here in the good 'ol USA.

Then your expansion to our later international influence puts the cap on the argument -- the US after WWI became an influential force in the world as the empire grew and exported culture -- sure Jazz, but also the shite.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes Vin, the Brits are also racist to the bone. All one has to do is to look at Britain's history of colonization and imperialism (there are too many examples here, including India).

White supremacy is global (with different flavors and intensities depending on which nation one is talking about).

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Vin

For a number of years, until she moved to the PacNW, my dearest friend and perhaps the dearest friend ever to grace my lifetime, was a black woman. Our daughters were born exactly one year apart 🙂

It was not without blowback. People would actually say to us, You know, you two hanging out together makes people think you’re hookers (!!!) A few assholes liked to compare our lips, and not in a complimentary way.

We didn’t give a flying fuck. I would have walked through fire for her; she would have laid down her life for me.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

First of all, girl, you are my therapy -- you make me laugh my ass off sometimes; I saw your comment waaay down below somewhere about not fucking with -- how did you put it -- your fiancé on ice; in limbo [oh no, they abolished that]. What a pisser.

Now to the point of our respective sibling- like relationships with Black folks -- and the assholes who though it strange, queer. Maurice and I were lucky -- Cambridge, MA, in the 80s, as liberal as it ever got respecting race. I lived in NH, but worked in Boston and hung out on the public courts in Cambridge in July. And during the school year we did music and musical theater together, played out in clubs in the same band (while teaching daytimes, what a trip).

I got far too incensed today because these folks come along and essentially want to question our experiences -- which hits me like a complete bullshit sledgehammer. You have a different opinion, fine, but why do you feel the need to shit on mine which derives from years of experience smelling and eating the racist shit my country percolates into the cosmos?

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Bob - Enough's avatar

OK, no argument, but and a big but ... when you state "Here is a book that I would highly recommend to understand the underpinnings of White supremacy in the US"..... I AM NOT FROM THE US, I was born in the UK and live in the EU now..,AND WE CERTAINLY DO NOT THINK LIKE THE YANKS (no offence).

Picking out your point No.6... in general, we do not give a sh1t if people are white, brown, black, green, yellow or whatever -if they are decent people. We get along (in the 1980s that was different A little) despite what you read in the msm. We certainly do not have white privilege - maybe just the opposite....but not for now.

Regards your points regards the Nazis... well maybe you should believe all you read. The biggest allies in WWII were Italy and Japan (WHite ?), but they had millions of Africans supporting them and and and...

OK I am wrong and shall walk away, but we have been so much BS throughout our lives AND MANIPUALATED ...it is horrendous.

Thanks for link, send one back = https://www.amazon.nl/Practical-Idealism-Kalergi-destroy-European/dp/1913057097

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

It doesn't matter WHERE you're from OR WHAT ethnicity or skin color you have - the FACTS are that "the US was built on a foundation of White Supremacy" that is STILL very dominant in the US.

Like I said before - your only antidote to your believed narratives is to read, read, read.

For people that believe the narratives that you do, reading the "Caste" book is a must! (or listen to to audiobook version).

I wouldn't mind continuing this discussion AFTER you have read/heard the book - I do believe it may change your perspective on quite a few things...

(Check out the quotes section for the book on GoodReads to get some samples if you wish).

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Bob - Enough's avatar

I do and never will be pushed in living in the past (slavery, the holocaust) etc... because I would not have agreed and would fight against it.

This "anti-white" shite is both in the MSM and alleged alt-sites now (plus books and fims, adverts and and)... so I take it with a pinch of salt - no offence.

Your link to the book is noted, thanks, but I THINK, the globalist elitist scum want civil war... or at least social unrest on a scale that we have not seen before in the West.... "Out of chaos comes order" and all that. Just my view.

Just stating my view as a NON-YANK, right or wrong! .

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Expel the U.S. & Israel from the U.N. They are Terrorists.

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Sadly, Chuck, the UN lost its teeth, years ago. Just a subservient slave these days in the UN Security Council to the US veto.

How it remains open never ceases to amaze me.

One can remember years ago when something like a Gaza ethnic cleansing couldn't get past the first week without the UN having peacekeeping forces on the ground representing many nations. These days, Israel and it's brain dead leaders, supported by the USA with its profit motive on military equipment, real estate and total subservience to the latter day Nazis in Tel Aviv, couldn't miss a step forward as they dictate the actions they choose knowing that the US Veto is there for the taking, this factor alone having made the USA just the home for the UN Social Club, full of tired old bureaucrats from all over the globe.

It sadly serves no other purpose and hasn't for years. The same applies to the ICC, all dancing to the Israel / USA tune.

There is no independent world body.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

So true. They both should be canceled or moved to Cuba !

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JennyStokes's avatar

CUBA? What is wrong with Cuba? Have you been reading Mainstream Press!

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Nothing except sanctions, blockades etc.

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PJ London's avatar

I think you mean "Sent to Coventry".

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gypsy33's avatar

Chuck, please!

Don’t wish for those psychos to contaminate Cuba!

They’d just try to deport them!

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Not really in any sequence , everyone. Sorry for that, but an interesting question to consider which I have never seen mentioned.

Trump has Zelensky by the vitals based on the oft-mentioned Ukrainian debt to the USA, (weapons etc), a strong bargaining chip for Trump in his search for minerals (a personal commercial interest perhaps for one of his buddies) as payment for the enormous weapon debt. Remember that story?

Here is a question...

Does Israel have the same level of indebtedness to the USA or were they on Biden / Trump's free list. Worth asking that one, although, facing reality, his answer whatever it was, would be supported by Netanyahu who seems to have enough of a hold on Trump for some reason or another.

Pity we couldn't ask Epstein, but he killed himself...so they say.

Sad really as he certainly had lots of friends in very high places and a few in the Middle East as well..........from what we hear

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

The UN is steeped in irrelevancy. Its time (if it ever really had any honest relevancy) is long past. It should be dissolved as all it is is a waste of resources steeped in political intrigue.

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Joy in HK's avatar

I wonder if that's true. I think it is arguably so for the western powers these days, but might it be doing things outside of the occasional Security Council obstructions from the US, etc., and be providing benefits to what were formerly known as Third-world countries? I wouldn't have any idea, as their interests, needs, and requests are never acknowledged in the western media, including many independent ones. But I would feel unqualified to call on the dissolution without a lot of research into what other services it might be providing, UNRWA, for one, that I wouldn't like to see destroyed. What has your research shown that indicates no harm would be done by dissolving the UN?

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Marten's avatar

Oups !!!! U.N. is own by U.S and ISRAHELL !!!!!

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Rod Dawson's avatar

Israel is Evil. Its supporters support Evil. Israel is racist. Its supporters support Racism. Israel stands for the notion that some human beings are superior to others, so they have a right to murder anyone they consider a 'subhuman animal' and steal their land. It's supporters - people, governments and institutions - support this deeply un-civilising idea too.

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Davina's avatar

Odd isn't it that those ^superior^ Israelis are quite okay with members of their IOF prancing around in women's underwear every chance they get. Doesn't appear superior at all, unless they are admitting that females are superior to men, which may be why their rabbis are okay with men raping women?

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

The effing beastly Colonial Zionist/Genocidal swine -- acting as they do only because they are assured impunity and no accountability by the "leaders" of this cowardly planet Earth...most especially the execrable USA.

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JennyStokes's avatar

How is it that our Governments refuses to listen to the millions of people out in the streets saying NO to Genocide?

I was under the assumption, when I was younger, that Govts. were working for us! Ha!

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Citizen's avatar

I hope that belief bubble has well and truly been burst.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Ha. Well I am 77yrs old this year. Seem to have been fighting for years.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Yes! We have been aware since the sixties but unfortunately there have have never been enough of us. The Hippies graduated into the Yuppies who became the monster that has its hand on the tiller. They have subverted all the decency most had when they were young and gullible and many even today can't see where it has led and to where it is leading.

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Joy in HK's avatar

I don't agree with your blanket condemnation of those of us who were active in the 1960s. Some, may have capitulated, perhaps best presented by the great song by The Bobs: "First I was a Hippie, Then I Was a Stockbroker, Now I Am a Hippie Again."

But, we were never the majority of our generation, and still aren't. Everyone I knew from those days are still on the side of peace and justice. Sadly, the numbers get smaller each passing year.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

You have either misread what I am trying to say or I perhaps did not present it clearly enough. The majority of people who thought independently and tried to go their own way eventually sold their souls for a dollar. Some of us like you and I are still going our own way.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Probably agree but I still have the same mind set I had in the 60's.

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

Some of us old hippies are still around.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Any old hippies That are still around also never sold out. There aren't many of you left either. I've always believed in live and let live so long as nobody tries to push their indoctrination on us. For example the gay communities were well down the road to general acceptance as they should have always been. Woke was designed and promoted to put us back at each other's throats. It has nothing to do with gay rights and everything to do with promoting hatred and destroying lives.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I think they are. It was a time I will never forget although with much pain.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

My thinking hasn't changed too much either. If anything it's matured. There were a few of us that seemed to know instinctively what to avoid.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Sadly, I'm Jenny's age and my experience of my generation isn't very far from your description.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Oh Vin when's your Birthday? Mine is May.

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Joy in HK's avatar

I'm three years older than you, but, as I mentioned in another reply, we were never the majority of our generation, and still aren't. But, many of us remain on the side of peace and justice.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Just had mine in Feb. We 1948ers gotta hang together.

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Fadi Lama's avatar

God bless you for all your work!

Quote: “Evacuation of the population from combat zones will soon resume.”

Is there any part of the Gaza enclave that is not a combat zone?

Quote: “Take the advice of the U.S. President: return the hostages and kick out Hamas”

So what the Israeli army failed in achieving in 15 months of genocide they want the people to do?

Quote: “new options will open up for you — including relocation to other parts of the world”

So the people whose ancestors have lived there for millennia have to make way for colonialist settlers?

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Joy in HK's avatar

"So the people whose ancestors have lived there for millennia have to make way for colonialist settlers?" Hey! It's the American way.

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Fadi Lama's avatar

True...

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Citizen's avatar

It's a Genocidal death cult.

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Eric Jacobson's avatar

The DT writes like an eighth-grade psychopathic bully. The great tragedy of this

murderous, narcissistic drivel is that he has the weapons of mass destruction at his disposal to do indeed what he says! By weapons of mass destruction, I mean not only the bombs to be dropped but also the satanic evil of the Israeli state to carry out the total eradication of the hapless Palestinian people.

What is left to destroy? A great tragedy continues to unfold. Judgment is at hand, especially in the "evangelical" churches that continue to cheer on this carnage.

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Kojo's avatar

Don't make the mistake of thinking he has no basic sense and that this is all off the cuff..

He probably doesnt write most of those posts personally.

What you are looking at is PR strategy:

- Write like a half-wit.....to appeal to the masses of existing half-wits out there and mobilize their voices.

- And more importantly, to normalize half-wit modes of thinking and communication, so as to enable a state of affairs where the trump admin can keep doing what they are doing.

This is evil and cunning. The most effective evil people are extremely cunning.

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Eric Jacobson's avatar

Hi, Kojo. I agree that "the most effective evil people are extremely

cunning." I do believe, however, that the Donald speaks whatever comes to his mind at the moment. He is clever in a diabolical way, but he loves to hear himself

pontificate, to be the "tough guy". He knows there are enough Maga people out there who love to hear his tough talk, and as you stated: "to appeal to the masses of existing half-wits out there..." Perhaps you're right, that it is all scripted. I believe what we do agree on is that all of the narratives that come out of DC are lies and propaganda to further the Blob's murderous agenda whether they are scripted or not!

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Klonda56's avatar

“I do believe, however, that the Donald speaks whatever comes to his mind at the moment”

Nope.

That he sometimes speaks off the cuff, doesn’t mean that

- there isn’t lot of very planned action on his agenda.

- that none his seemly off the cuff statements are not planed or staged

- that he’s sitting somewhere scrawling it in crayon

- that he’s not got a huge PR army putting out this idiot-speak.

Most people are completely oblivious to the degree to which the extre right in America has mastered and exploits the craft of PR-planned and executed communications - and the use of direct media platforms to deliver their communications.

The public is so clueless on this that it’s like child’s play for these people.

Trump and go are like 3D chess masters here and people are zooming in on what the bark of the tree looks like, while missing that the tree is bing pushed down on them.

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Eric Jacobson's avatar

Klonda56, I would largely agree with what you say here. The propaganda runs deep, and the puppeteers hold tight to the strings of the puppets

as they dance and speak for them. I would contend that the powers that be could use a loose cannon like Trump and allow him to occasionally make a spontaneous off-the-cuff remark, and then use that remark to fit into their agenda. There are so many MAGA followers that actually believe Trump is fighting the "deep state" and by allowing occasional spontaneous outbursts by the Donald reinforces in the eyes of his followers that he is "working independently" of the State apparatus. Thanks for your reply.

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PJ London's avatar

With Trump and the USA in their pocket they no longer care what the rest of the world think.

This was the plan all along ;

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"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

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Discreetly and circumspectly no longer apply.

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Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923: "A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."

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Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem": "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left."

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All this was understood and written before "Israel" existed.

The fact that the rest of the world thought that the Jews would "play nice" merely demonstrates how stupid the rest of the world really is.

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Joy in HK's avatar

Or, perhaps, how complicit?

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Cecilia Donovan's avatar

Definitelly complicit. right from the start of the Zionist project.

Especially the British. Read Winston Churchill's comments about the "dog in the manger". The racism was rife, always.

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martin's avatar

or the other way around ('if you can't beat them, join them').

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Mark's avatar

If humans survive as a species for eons to yet come & a book of humanity's evil us written, Zionism/Israel will have its own chapter.

They are sick, depraved, & drunk on their own lethal bigotry. Dark-souled, irredeemable demons who plumb depths only acutely warped minds can reach.

"Their deeds would shame all the Devils in hell."

FREE PALESTINE

SAVE HUMANITY

DESTROY ZIONISM

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citygal's avatar

No matter who I vote for, I get Israel.

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Joy in HK's avatar

It's the Uniparty. That's what it does.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

That's why you must vote for independents and alternative party candidates. People without any connections to Izreahell and zy0nism.

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citygal's avatar

Yep. I felt this time that Genocide Joe and that other thing had to go. I believed it couldn’t get worse, but I see now that it’s just more of the same. We cannot have domestic prosperity and continuous war abroad.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

But continuous war (at home or abroad) is what makes capitalism work (for the billionaires, not ordinary folks). That's sort of my theme this week: https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/the-best-conspiracy-theory-ever-isnt

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Kojo's avatar

In addition to being a statement of intent to commit genocide.....it's also an open declaration to kill the Israeli hostages in Gaza. The mass bombings by the Israelis have already killed many hostages, whose bodies were returned. More mass bonbings logically will only kill more hostages.

Its sick and twisted to commit mass murder on another people.

But its a whole other level of sick and twisted to knowingly kill your own people in order to do it.

This is what the "west" is. They ALL support, enable, finance and send weapons to Israel to do this sick stuff. KNOWINGLY.

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martin's avatar

no, it's the same level of sickness and it is obviously widespread ... the hostages are not 'their own people'.

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Ryan Schwarz's avatar

I think what we are witnessing is western “civilisation” in its final stages before a cataclysm. Unfortunately it will most likely destroy the world in the process.

It’s obvious that democracy and the international institutions setup post WW2 have failed and fascism/supremacy and brute force have total impunity. International law, morality, ethics - have been crushed. This is the era of raw power. Trump is merely a symptom and agent of this collapse.

Perhaps also worth contemplating that when WW2 ended, the age of western imperialism and white supremacy did not. It was merely given a window dressing and papered over with a veneer of decency and morality. That too has been stripped away. The German Nazis were defeated only because they threatened other Europeans, but the spirit of violent hatred and supremacy, eternal war and endless expansionism, ethnic cleansing and genocide, land theft and conquest survived in the Zionist project. Zionists have achieved the kind of global domination Hitler could only dream of.

The next world war will almost certainly take place this century when nuclear weapons will be used in large numbers. What’s left of humanity, if anything, will then have to begin the long and enormously difficult road ahead, but with an opportunity for a true reset.

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JennyStokes's avatar

There are other parts of the World which are not so warlike.

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Stan's avatar

No, in such a scenario, humans will still be incapable of overcoming their tribalism and selfishness. It would just cycle back to the same end. More likely would be human extinction.

But I see beauty in creation alongside the horrors, and am firm in my conviction that this has been a terrible experiment in self rule. The Creator knew we needed His guidance and warned us against deciding right and wrong independently. We followed a liar who said God was a selfish liar who didn’t care about us. That lie sounds just like a gaslighting malignant narcissist. God had two choices: start over with new humans, admitting that the first ones were defective, or let the claim play out and prove itself a disastrously bad decision. We have now seen the results.

You may think this origin story is nonsense, but it at least describes our weakness accurately. What is the foundation of your faith that future generations in a devastated planet would actually learn the lesson and avoid the same mistakes? Two world wars so far haven’t helped a bit.

Now that the point has been made, a small minority admits our need for Guidance. These are the “meek” who will inherit this Earth. Which side do you take? The experiment is done. It can now be ended.

I am NOT advocating for religion, which has been a tool of the Enemy to promote lies against God. Under a cover of charitable works it has prostituted itself to every cruel rulership man has devised. It will be destroyed first when the reckoning begins.

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martin's avatar

'not advocating for religion' seems rather contradictory to the rest of the comment.

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martin's avatar

imo, the german nazis were defeated because the russian communists resisted. all the other stuff (war, genocide, conquest, ...) wasn't merely concentrated in the zionist scapegoat. it very much survived were it was rooted (and it plans to survive the next world war).

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Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

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Dillon's avatar

The only good politician is a dead politician

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gypsy33's avatar

Dillon, we need more Luigis.

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John Mann's avatar

Well, not quite, but yes, most of the world's politicians are pretty terrible.

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gypsy33's avatar

Sorry John, but yes…quite.

I’m specifically speaking of Amerikkkan AIPAC whores.

Lady Lindsay Graham needs to be in somebody’s crosshairs.

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Richard Parker's avatar

I see many comments mention the handful of Israelis held by the Palestinians.

Well, why isn't Israel retuning the thousands of hostages it has imprisoned. Are they still even alive?

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