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Brianna Amore's avatar

I had a boss in Canada who once moved to Israel to be with his parents. Upon entry he was given a form written in Hebrew and told to sign on the dotted line. He assumed it was just an entry form, a simple formality to enter the country. He was dead wrong. What he had just done was sign up for the IDF unknowingly because he couldn't read Hebrew.

After later finding himself deployed to the border with Lebanon he told his commanders that his grandfather had passed away in France and needed to leave. He never went back to Israel as he was now considered a deserter and since his parents were too old to travel he never saw them again.

True story. Shitat Matzliach.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Give any group of humans de facto unlimited rights and zero responsibilities and you will get behavior such as we see from Israel.

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Susan T's avatar

They take a lot of rights that may backfire. If they use their nuclear power like they threaten to do, do they think the radiation will skirt around them? Suckers.

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Ibti's avatar

Nope, sorry.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Any examples of exceptions to what Feral Finster said (in the modern context - i.e. not during hunter-gatherer or agricultural revolution periods) ?

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Patrick Powers's avatar

Oh I don't think ballet dancers or jazz musicians would take up raping and pillaging. Indeed I think most people wouldn't. They'd party and take drugs instead.

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F....'s avatar

The ceasefire is a ruse, there is no ceasefire anymore then when the sadistic IDF tricked unarmed civilians to use a ''safe corridor'' only to be murdered.

If anything the ceaefire serves to resupply the IDF.

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Ian Brown's avatar

Everyone needs to dispense with the obvious falsehood. It was only meant to put people to sleep. There is no ceasefire.

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F....'s avatar

True - The ceasefire is as real as the proposed Ministry of Truth courtesy of Madame Fond of Lying.

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BlasterAsster's avatar

There is no ceasefire, never has been, never will be.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

I'm sure Hamas wasn't fooled for a second. They just wanted to do the hostage exchange. It was a good deal.

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Ian Brown's avatar

I wouldn't want to generalize too broadly, but I actually did see this a lot in Israel. Particularly, people cutting to the front of a line and leverage their Hebrew speaking ability to get special service over the people behind them who might not all speak the language.

Japanese are even more of a monculture, but you NEVER see them do this.

It does seem to be a bit related to haggling culture, but where EVERYTHING is an aggressive haggle and balance of privilege and will. One thinks of the social and historical forces that create this mentality of always pressing your advantage, and never building mutual or trusting relationships.

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Megan Baker's avatar

And there you have what'll be a significant factor in Israel's downfall: they don't trust anyone and they don't much like anyone. It'll be a miracle if they don't fall into a civil war. God knows there's no society on earth that deserves one more.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"One thinks of the social and historical forces that create this mentality of always pressing your advantage, and never building mutual or trusting relationships." Quite so. For this I feel some sympathy for them. But the limit was passed long ago.

I lived in Japan and it does seem like the anti-Israel. But their behavior in World War II was equally ugly. It's discouraging.

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BlasterAsster's avatar

What are you even doing in Israel? Are you insane?

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Sera's avatar

If I used any of these direct quotes, or thousands of others, from Netanyahu on down, in comments in the New York Times, not one would pass the moderators.

These are the quintessence of antisemitic clichés, and they toss them around like confetti.

We need to weaponize their shameless boasting, and somehow make them eat their words.

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BlasterAsster's avatar

The fundamental problem that the human species faces is that Zionists are willing to do ANYTHING to non-Zionists but non-Zionists are barely able to scrape together a pleasure boat flotilla.

If you weaponize their shameless boasting and make them eat their words they'll just kill your kids with a drone bomb and laugh about it.

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Sera's avatar

Well, yes, it will have no effect on the psychopaths in Israel.

But what I was thinking was that there’s a turn in the tide at the moment. Mamdani wouldn’t have stood a chance even two years ago. The purpose of promulgating these quotes is to take advantage of this new climate by showing those reasonable Americans who may be on the fence, what sort of people they were, until recently, defending.

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BlasterAsster's avatar

They are Christ killers.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"There's a sucker born every minute!" circus impresario P.T. Barnum supposedly said. It seems that the Israelis have invented their own "circus" and the entire world is full of "suckers" for them to take advantage of. It's time we stop falling for their dirty tactics and shut them down permanently. Free Palestine--Free Ourselves from the tyranny of the Zionists!

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Tenggara's avatar

And all this while people thing they’re being anti-Semitic when in fact Israelis are just exercising their right to shitat marzliach everyone. Gosh

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

I have distant relatives who are Irish Gypsies, or ‘Travellers’, and they have a very similar culture of “taking advantage” of whoever they’re dealing with, be that someone they’re working for or someone to whom they’re selling something. They take pride in it and if they get caught they’ll smile and act all “Aww you got me this time…. C’mon, I’m a Gypsy boy”. I think it stems from always being an ‘outsider’, or ‘unwanted’, transient people. Jews have historically been similar, experiencing persecution just as Romany & Gypsy folk have. It’s no excuse in the modern world though and especially in Israel where they’re the overwhelming majority.

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Chris T's avatar

But gypsies don't steal people's land and genocide an entire nation... Repeatedly... Look up the kitos war and what the Jews did to the Cypriots nigh on 2 millenia ago....

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Susan T's avatar

Jews may have stolen things in the past. So did Christians. And probably Muslims. But it is the Zionists, like the Nazis, who commit genocide and see themselves as supreme beings. In the present.

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Davina's avatar

Zionists were never outsiders until they took over parts of Palestine, to make Israhell, and then Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Yemen their avarice put them on the outside where they should stay- as far from human habitation as possible.

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Megan Baker's avatar

He compared Gypsies and Jews, not Zionists. Obviously none of the horrors visited upon Jews at any time in history have befallen the Zionists, much as we would like to see it.

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Ian Brown's avatar

Cultural adaptation to harsh societal conditions and outsider status, more license to break the rules when you dont feel equality or reciprocity.

Israel does distill pretty much any negative cultural or psychological trend inherited from Jewish history of persecution. It's a people that don't live in the present, and can't get away from an identity embedded with isolation, victim hood, and also license.

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Manny5's avatar
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That's why Israelis invented all the "horrors" Hamas did on October 7, like cutting babies heads, and frying babies in ovens. And when the “freier” Biden, repeated those lies in television, they had a good laugh, because he fell for their “shitat matzliach”.

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BlasterAsster's avatar

Biden didn't fall for anything, he was a braindead puppet like Kamala. Zionist Jews Blinken and Sullivan were running the entire administration.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

Biden and Harris were geniuses when it came to maximizing personal income with minimal effort.

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Binky LaRue's avatar

People Are Learning The TRUTH About October 7th (And it changes everything)

Just scratch the surface & the big lie falls apart.

https://realleecamp.substack.com/p/people-are-learning-the-truth-about

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Mark Shveima's avatar

Never knew this was a common trait in the Israeli culture. How sad. You can take the people out of their culture, but you can't take the culture out of the people is something I learned a long time ago. This one cultural aspect explains why Israel is so entrenched in American governmental decisions. Seems the American government missed the memo on this a long time ago.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

And so is the US government--and along with it the US people--freshers?

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BlasterAsster's avatar

American Christian taxpayer here.

Very tired of paying for Israel's theft.

Very tired of paying for Israel's rape.

Very tired of paying for Israel's torture.

Very tired of paying for Israel's bombing of mosques, churches, schools, markets, hospitals, neonatal clinics, graveyards, water treatment plants, bakeries, cafes, farms, ranches...

Very tired of the genocidal, colonial, apartheid state of Israel.

PS How funny is it that Israel has universal free healthcare, education, housing, food and vacations paid for by American Christian taxpayers and we get NOTHING

SO FUNNY

HAHAHA

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

BlasterAsster, What are you all doing about it?!

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BlasterAsster's avatar

I think we're just going to have to crash the global economy via debt overload - which will hopefully destroy America's force projection and Israel with it.

Failing that...I guess just do wildly illegal things...

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"crash the global economy via debt overload " -- Seems pretty likely to me. Sometime in the next ten years. Could start any day now. Timing of such things is unpredictable.

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KHGUAN's avatar

How does the public keep falling for these "SIKES!" by the same slimy assholes whom has been doing this shit since 1948?

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Chris T's avatar

It's Jewish collective culture, not just Israeli. It goes back thousands of years. This is one of the reasons they're such a beloved group of people...

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Megan Baker's avatar

Disagree. My anti-Zionist Jewish friend has much more in common with me than she does with an Israeli. The early anti-Zionists argued that Jews were integral to all the nations where they lived and didn't need a segregated nation, and they were right. The idea of a Jewish collective culture is no more reasonable than the idea of a Catholic collective culture.

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Michael's avatar

lol and this is how stereotypes are born

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

What this shows us, is that the Zionist AbomiNation State - really ISN'T a "Jewish State", at all... It's a Satanic, colonial outpost, of the Evil Empire.

The Torah and the Talmud both have extensive examples and rules, around behaving only to the highest of ethical standards. This Zionist-settlers' trait clearly demonstrates the manifestly EVIL and reprobate nature of the Zionist ethos and culture. These are a nation of pushy, obnoxious LIARS, and Crooks - where they aren't psychopathic serial killers, rapists and torturers. These monsters, are entirely irredeemable.

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Ibti's avatar

The opposite of the social contract then. Also, love how you still insist on calling it an "Israeli" trait.

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