The only consolation is the harder the Ziojewraelis push their propaganda the more stupid they get and the more aware people become of their interference in media, Government and politics. And that just pisses people off even more. Eventually even politicians have to take note.
I am hoping Australians still have a good bullshit detector and have picked up the level of power the Ziojewraelis wield in our country and take action to stop it. The only consolation is that the harder the Zionazis push the more pissed off people get with them.
the cpc practices socialism with chinese characteristics and adhere to the principles of communism (f. engels), i've been told. i did not say russia is communist, it is capitalist, as everyone knows. i was referring to the commies under your bed.
China is capitalist but retains the old ruling regime, formerly communist. China is no longer Communist in any real sense.
what commies under the bed? Communism is gone, dead and buried and while new forms may emerge which claim or aim to bring benefits and a better life to ordinary people, it will not be Communism.
The biggest danger we face is Capitalism unchecked where everything is sold to the highest bidder and everything is about making money instead of ensuring a good quality of life for ordinary people.
i do not agree with your opinion on what is communist and what isn't. afaik, communism is not a benevolent master who brings benefits and a better life to ordinary people. history teaches that capitalism can't be 'checked'. if the great hominoid apes want to survive as a species (but hey, maybe they don't), they must abolish it, imo.
More important than ever! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
there's more christian zionists than jewish zionists. they're quite easy to spot because they try to accelerate the ultimate showdown with the jews in israel. they also don't give a f*ck about palestinians or muslims (or any other people but christians; they also hate communists).
Infiltrate anyone speakingbouton Palestine .and just on any general platform .They flooding platforms with .AI video post .Fake video post .We just have keep pushing back on these comments .
It's the usual obfuscation and diversion from the real story. "Let's get them talking about socialism and away from genocide, war crimes and land theft" . Take the wanna be scholarly "intellectual" discussion elsewhere. It has no bearing on the current truth of what is happening to the Palestinians.
I would love for someone to mention to Trump out of the blue when he complains about Venezuela being "socialist" that Israel is also socialist. In fact, Israel is more socialist than Venezuela, but only for Jews. That social safety net is only for them. What is the proportion of Israeli land owned by the state--over 80%? Maduro could only dream of such a thing.
Hardly: Israel land laws are based on the old land laws of the Ottoman Empire where the state owns most of the land (93% but it is leased out longterm like the land the Arab Palestinians occupired before their expulsion, 93% and both transferable and inheritable so that in effect, it was tho technically state owned, privately controlled. Israel is not a socialist nation; it has national healthcare and education but it is the private sector which dominates. Venezuela tho led by socialists is also mostly capitalist with 70% of the economy in private (capitalist) hands. It's time to understand that socialism is not a thing but a process......with many varieties and many hybrid forms. Among the most socialist nations, Norway; among the least, Israel, tho at one time, before the rightwing took control, a kind of folksy socialism was present, today kind of pushed aside. Mostly, Isral is highly capitalistic: . Israel is highly capitalistic by global standards, but with a unique twist because of its historical socialist roots and state control over land. Here’s the breakdown:
1. Core capitalist traits
Market-driven economy: Most of Israel’s GDP comes from the private sector, particularly high-tech, finance, manufacturing, and services.
Entrepreneurship: Israel is a global startup hub (“Startup Nation”) with strong venture capital, foreign investment, and private ownership of companies.
Privatization: Many formerly state-owned industries (banks, airlines, telecommunications) have been privatized over the last 30–40 years.
Wealth creation: Individuals and private companies accumulate capital, own property (subject to leases), and trade freely."
Good comment. As you said, Venezuela is also not socialist by any pure metric, but that doesn't keep idiots from whining that it is. My only point is that Zionists founded Israel on socialist ideals, but virtually no Western government ever whispers that because it's not convenient to their narrative. And no one forced Israel to keep Ottoman land laws in place, but those laws were useful to keep land out of Palestinian hands.
Yes, Labor Zionists founded Israel but not only on socialist but on a fused nationalist ideology, in otherwords, national socialism, the same model used by the Nazis, which soon degenerated from socialism to privatization and capitalism in control. And yes, the same land laws Israel used to justify ousting Palestinians from their land was then adopted by the state to create a Jewish ethno state, which today is in the hands of farright pro-capitalist thugs. To quote my pal Al: "Zionism fused nationalism + socialism. The idea was to create a “new Jew”: productive, collective, rooted in land and labor, not commerce or finance. That was ideological, not just practical.
Where people get sloppy is ignoring what happened later:
From the late 1970s onward, especially after Likud’s rise in 1977, Israel steadily shifted:
Privatization
Weakened unions
This
High-tech capitalism
Growing inequality
Modern Israel is not socialist in any meaningful sense. But the state was founded by socialists, using socialist institutions, with socialist goals.
So the clean formulation is:
Israel was founded by socialist Zionists, even though it later evolved into a predominantly capitalist economy
The break: 1977 “Mahapach” (upheaval)
In 1977, Menachem Begin’s Likud won national elections.
That was the turning point.
Why it mattered:
It ended nearly 50 years of Labor rule.
Power shifted to a coalition of:
Revisionist Zionists (nationalist, not socialist)
Mizrahi voters alienated by Labor elites
Small-business and market-oriented interests
This wasn’t a blip. Labor never recovered its old dominance.
3. Dismantling the socialist state (1980s–1990s)
Even when Labor briefly returned to government (Rabin, Peres):
Privatization continued
The Histadrut was cut down to size
State monopolies were sold off
Israel embraced neoliberal reforms, especially after the 1985 economic crisis
The logic of the system changed. Labor managed capitalism; it no longer ran a socialist project.
4. Today
Labor is now a minor party, sometimes barely clearing the electoral threshold.
The institutions Labor built still exist (public land ownership, welfare remnants), but their ideological purpose is gone.
Power is held by:
Right-wing nationalists
Religious parties
Capitalist elites (especially tech and finance)
Bottom line
Labor socialists didn’t just “lose elections.”
They lost:
Cultural authority
Economic control
Institutional dominance
By the late 20th century, Israel had moved from socialist nation-building to nationalist capitalism.
So yes—Labor socialists lost control of Israel, and they never got it back.."
As if capitalism is a good thing. Interest, limited liability and fiat money keep Pigrael afloat. Moneylending, along with prophet kiling, is one of the core reasons why Hashem expelled the jews in the first place.
As a transitional tool, capitalism is useful in a democratic socialist society, to create wealth and jobs, without being allowed to dominate the economy and the political process. Examples range from Norway, where the state generates and owns the majority of wealth (on behalf of the people) with a vibrant private sector that creates most of the jobs and actually works for the state (extracting and marketing offshore oil, then taxed 78%) or China, where the private sector employs the most people, generates the most wealth, creates huge concentrations of wealth, in a system run by Marxists seeing this as a step in the eventual transformation from a state socialism/hybrid system to communism, which Marx said would arise only in the most industrialized, wealthy nations with concentrations of wealth....a path China is pursuing with quiet persistance, building its wealth by using the private sector without letting it run the country, as in capitalist nations like the US or South Africa.
Linda Hagge, sorry to inform you but Israel is not even REMOTELY socialist, not even for Jews. Maybe you're confusing 'socialism' with 'welfare policies'?
Maybe you should read a little something about early Zionists and what they had in mind for the country. Any number of writers have commented about the hypocrisy of Westerners who get all het up about so-called "socialism" in Central and South America, but ignore the self-same policies in Israel.
Maybe you should read something about what Socialism IS and ISN'T. Again, I dare you to find ANY expert on Israel that will even remotely call Israel socialist (whether it pertains to Jews or not).
Also, reading up on the history and economics of Israel would help too.
There is simply NO COMPARISON between Venezuela and Israel.
Very similar policies in Venezuela: "Venezuela has implemented a range of socialist policies since the late 1990s under the leadership of Hugo Chávez, who promoted what he called "21st-century socialism".
The government pursued widespread nationalization of key industries, including oil, telecommunications, banking, and agriculture, aiming to redistribute wealth and reduce inequality.
The state-owned oil company, Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), became central to funding expansive social programs.
These social programs, known as misiones, focused on providing free healthcare, education, and subsidized food to the poor, leading to significant improvements in literacy and access to medical care in the early 2000s.
For example, the number of primary care doctors increased from 1,628 in 1999 to 19,571 by 2007, and social spending per person rose by 170% between 1998 and 2006.
The government also promoted worker cooperatives and community councils to encourage participatory democracy and social ownership, with around 100,000 cooperatives employing over 700,000 workers by 2006.
Chavismo, the political ideology associated with Chávez and later Nicolás Maduro, combines elements of democratic socialism, Bolivarianism, and anti-neoliberalism, emphasizing opposition to International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank policies."
Still no-go. Here is a breakdown of the DIFFERENCE between Venezuela and Israel's political economy ->
Venezuela’s political economy centers on state control of resources and redistribution tied to a populist socialist project. Israel’s political economy is a capitalist, market‑oriented mixed system with significant private‑sector dynamism, diversified exports and stronger institutions, combined with social welfare programs.
Venezuela is a state‑led, Bolivarian socialism — strong executive control, nationalizations (oil, utilities, some industries), price and foreign‑exchange controls, centralized redistribution through social programs whereas Israel is a market‑oriented mixed capitalist system — private sector–driven growth, regulated markets, targeted welfare provision, limited state ownership after waves of privatization.
In Venezuela, state dominates key sectors (PDVSA), weakened checks and balances, frequent politicization of judiciary and regulators, extensive administrative controls, whereas in Israel the state regulates and provides public goods (health, education, defense), independent central bank, stronger rule‑of‑law and regulatory institutions relative to Venezuela; political debates influence policy but institutions remain more pluralistic.
And here is the DIFFERENCE between a SOCIALIST country and a country with 'socialist policies' -> A socialist country typically has a government that controls the means of production and aims for collective ownership, often with limited private enterprise. In contrast, a country with socialist policies may incorporate social welfare programs and regulations within a primarily capitalist framework, allowing for both public and private ownership.
Also, if you've read ANY of Marx, Engels, Rosa Luxemburg, Trotsky, Lenin, or Mao, you would understand 'state socialism' (as mentioned above) is NOT the Socialism as per the DEFINITION of socialism. (Socialism is an economic and political system where the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned or regulated by the community as a whole, aiming to achieve greater social equality and reduce income disparities).
I up-voted your comment here & elsewhere CC without noting that you are mostly engaging in semantic consolidation of the popular and Cold War loaded term "Socialist."
In reality and apart from ideological commitments often segmented to one or another side of the Cold War and never fully pure implementation of the division of capital\labor\property\Public Institutions\Publicly backed if "Private Finance Institutions" when you launch into comparisons with other manifestly if rarely purely "Socialist" labeled nation-states.
Despite it often being a case of self-labeled ideological or political alliance and trade relations that makes late 20th & as yet early 21st Century "Globalized E-CON" nation-states one or another of the prescribed boxes to be checked in academic and\or State Department institutional and governmental nomenclature.
"Neoliberalism: Political Success, Economic Failure"
"...The invisible hand is more like a thumb on the scale for the world’s elites. That’s why market fundamentalism has been unmasked as bogus economics but keeps winning politically."
AI disagrees: "Socialist policies in Israel were dominant during the first decades following its establishment in 1948, particularly under the leadership of the Mapai party and its successor, the Labor Party, which held power until 1977.
The early Israeli economy was characterized by extensive public ownership, with major industries such as minerals extraction, water and electricity, transportation, communications, and military manufacturing under state control.
A significant portion of land—93%—was publicly owned, and the construction industry was largely nationalized or organized as cooperatives.
The labor movement, especially through the Histadrut (General Federation of Labor founded in 1920), played a central role in the economy.
The Histadrut not only represented workers but also owned enterprises across sectors, including 38% of banking, 18% of insurance, and 25% of manufacturing.
One of its major holdings, Koor Industries, alone accounted for 10% of GDP.
Agriculture was predominantly organized in worker cooperatives, with kibbutzim and moshavim controlling 74% of agricultural output.
A comprehensive welfare state was established, including old-age pensions, disability benefits, maternity leave, and accident insurance, administered by the National Insurance Institute (Bituah Leumi) founded in 1954.
Maternity benefits replaced 75% of wages for 12 weeks, and social security contributions were set at around 2.75% of wages.
The tax system was highly progressive, with top marginal rates reaching 60–66%, and an estate tax was introduced in 1950.
Labor rights were strongly protected, with legislation between 1951 and 1976 introducing restrictions on working hours, paid leave, child labor prohibitions, anti-discrimination laws for women, and workplace safety regulations.
Unionization rates were exceptionally high, with over 60% of the workforce unionized even by the end of the social democratic era.
Economic planning was central, with state controls on imports, exports, investment, and capital markets beginning in 1952–1953.
This model combined socialist ideology with developmental needs, fostering significant economic growth."
HaHaHa - are you for real? I ask you to show me even a SINGLE expert that believes 'Israel is a socialist nation' and you provide some CRAPPY non-relevant response from an LLM (without providing your prompt - so I have no way to verify what exactly you asked it)?
Again, understand WHAT socialism is and isn't.
You're funny, Linda Hagge, and a disappointment to all 'thinking humans' (due to your above AI dependency).
[P.S.-> Socialist policies are not the same as designating a country to be a Socialist country. Lot's of capitalist countries have socialist policies - especially the Nordic countries).
It seems you, CC, are wearing historical blinders while LH is taking into account early pre-state Zionist institutions, the fact that under-capitalized state-founding ventures have little choice but to be modeled on Socialism in order to be able to later shed it in the standard Privatization schemes of our late 20th Century Cold War and Corporate Capture campaigns and wealth concentrated "private" schemes of the crony class.
Not to mention Israel's most enduring and (Political Economy) dominant organization, The Histadrut (pronounced with long "o" sound where the single letter "u" is used in orthography from Hebe\Ivrith):
"The Histadrut was founded in December 1920 in Haifa to look out for the interests of Jewish workers. Until 1920, Ahdut HaAvoda and Hapoel Hatzair had been unable to set up a unified workers organisation.[1] In 1920, Third Aliyah immigrants founded Gdud HaAvoda and demanded a unified organization for all Jewish workers, which led to the establishment of the Histadrut.[2] At the end of 1921 David Ben-Gurion was elected as Secretary.[3] Membership grew from 4,400 in 1920 and to 8,394 members in 1922."
"In 1926 the Histadrut supported an art studio in Tel Aviv.[4][5] By 1927, the Histadrut had around 22,000 members, accounting for 68% of the Jewish workforce in Mandatory Palestine. In 1939, its membership stood at about 100,000, or about 75% of the Jewish workforce."
Labor Zionism
"More important than the 1917 American Federation of Labor (AFL) resolution recognizing "the legitimate claims of the Jewish people for the establishment of a national homeland in Palestine on the basis of self-government", was the grassroots campaign to finance Histadrut land purchases, infrastructure development and the establishment of farm cooperatives. Jewish garment workers in the US in the early 20th century looked more to local improvements than the promises of Labor Zionism..."
"The symbolic AFL endorsement of the Balfour Declaration failed to advance Zionist goals on the ground and many Jewish labor leaders were opposed to Zionist endeavors until the 1920 founding of Histadrut began to change their views. Within three years some labor leaders had reversed their positions, calling for moral and financial support for Histadrut. The garment unions Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America and International Ladies Garment Workers Union extended their support to Histadrut.[6]"
"The Histadrut became one of the most powerful institutions in the state of Israel, a mainstay of the Labour Zionist movement and, aside from being a trade union, its state-building role made it the owner of a number of businesses and factories."
"Until Israel began moving away from a socialist economy, the Histadrut, along with the government, owned most of the economy. It was the second largest employer in the country next to the government itself via its many cooperative enterprises.[7] Through its economic arm, Hevrat HaOvdim ("Society of Workers"), the Histadrut owned and operated numerous enterprises, including the country's largest industrial conglomerates, the country's largest bank, Bank Hapoalim, and the country's largest shipping company, ZIM Integrated Shipping Services..."
"...The Israeli services sector was completely dominated by the Histadrut and government, and the Histadrut also largely dominated the public transport, agriculture, and insurance industries.[8][9]"
"In addition, it owned Clalit Health Services, Israel's largest Kupat Holim, or health insurance and medical services fund. Clalit was the only health fund in the country to accept members without discriminating based on their age or medical situation, but with the condition that they must also be members of the Histadrut labor union. As such, many Israelis were dependent on Histadrut membership for their health insurance. In the mid-1980s, an estimated 70% of the Israeli population was insured by Clalit.[10]"
"Neoliberalism"
"See also: 1985 Israel Economic Stabilization Plan and Kibbutz crisis"
"With the increasing liberalization and deregulation of the Israeli economy since the 1980s, the role and size of Histadrut declined. Hyperinflation saddled its business empire with enormous debts, and slow economic growth exposed its inefficiencies. Due to debts, the Histadrut began giving up its business holdings. It lost control of Bank Hapoalim in the aftermath of the 1983 Israel bank stock crisis, when the Israeli government nationalized it along with other major banks.[11]"
"A notable shift in power took place in 1994 when the Labor Party lost its leadership and governing role in the Histadrut, and a new party named RAM, composed of individuals who had left the Labor Party due to internal power struggles, took charge and began to sell off or eliminate its non-union-related assets and activities, proclaiming that from then on, it would function solely as a trade union. The most severe blow came when Israel's National Health Insurance Law came into effect in 1995, instituting a national universal health care framework and reorganizing the Israeli healthcare system."
"Under the law, Clalit Health Services' tie to the Histadrut was severed and Israelis were given a choice in membership between Clalit and the three other Israeli health insurance funds, which were now prohibited from discriminating against applicants for age and medical reasons. Once an affiliation with the Histadrut was no longer a prerequisite for membership in Clalit, many of its insured dropped their labor union membership, while others switched to other health funds now that age or pre-existing conditions no longer precluded them from joining...."
"This resulted in one of the largest declines in union membership in labor history. The Histadrut's membership plunged almost instantly from 1.8 million (almost 80% of the workforce at the time) to about 200,000 members. The loss of revenue generated from Clalit's health insurance premiums and union dues caused an enormous decline in the Histadrut's resources, and it was forced to sell off valuable real estate assets to survive.[12]"
>>"It seems you, CC, are wearing historical blinders"
No I'm not, MR. I'm well aware of Israeli history (including so-called 'Socialist Zionism or left-wing Zionism, the kibbutz culture, etc.).
The Zionist Jews that settled in Palestine (from the very beginning) were settler-colonialists, regardless of 'how well they took care of their Ashkani Jew brothers and sisters, unions, whatever'.
Again, just because a country has labor unions does not make it a socialist country. As an example, there are many labor unions in the U.S. that don't really care about socialism but rather worker's wages (and working conditions) in a capitalist, corporate environment.
I hope you're not fooled by 'left-wing Zionism' or 'Socialist Zionism' narratives. Just as one cannot have kibbutz on stolen land with exclusionary (i.e. non-Jew) policies and call themselves a 'socialist setup', similarly states/organizations cannot claim to be 'socialist' by having 'unions' while EXCLUDING non-Jews or treating people of different ethnicities differently (again, that too on stolen land and resources).
Most people that try to argue in favor of 'Zionist socialism' don't really understand Socialism well enough to be able to make a convincing argument.
Again, if you think Socialism is about whether 'a Govt. owns the land' (state property) or a 'private entity owns the land' (private property), or a 'personal entity owns the land' (personal property), then you haven't really understood what SOCIALISM is.
Not in the least. Taxes at the federal level are NOT used for spending by the Govt. (MMT - modern monetary theory), despite the rhetoric and false narratives. This has been so for several decades now. Taxes at the federal level are used for other purposes (like managing inflation, etc.).
Read up on MMT (Modern Monetary Theory). From the standpoint of MMT, here are some in-depth insights into the relationship between taxation and monetary policy ->
1. Currency Value: MMT argues that taxes give value to money. By requiring taxes to be paid in the government's currency, it creates a demand for that currency, thus supporting its value.
2. Inflation Control: Taxation is a tool to manage aggregate demand. If an economy is overheating, taxes can be increased to reduce spending power, curbing inflation.
3. Wealth Redistribution: Taxes can be used to redistribute wealth and address inequality. Progressive taxation, where the tax rate increases with income, is one example that MMT proponents might cite.
4. Public Purpose: According to MMT, taxes can be levied to achieve public goals, such as reducing consumption of harmful goods through sin taxes or encouraging beneficial activities via tax credits.
Israel is an INTEGRAL part of the U.S. Empire, hence it has (and will continue to be) funded by the 'power elite' regardless of anything else (i.e. it has no relationship to the spending of money on domestic policies).
Did you even understand my comment? My comment is not about Aid/no-aid. It's about the SOURCE of this aid - i.e. the funds. These funds don't come from taxes.
Try reading my comment again in context of this discussion (i.e. your comment about "funded by U.S. Taxpayer" and my response about "these funds not coming from taxes, but still coming from the U.S. Govt.).
Netanyahu calling it “our common Judeo-Christian civilization’s battle is an insult to all of us, especially to people who consider themselves Christian. Or civilized. I could never, would never see anything that Israel has done over the past 100 years as as something that is common to what I want. I would not go anywhere, not even one block, to hear Netanyahu speak. I would not want to be in the same room as him. Unfortunately I do believe he was born a human being and I am sorry and disgusted to even have that in common with him.
Thank you Caitlin! Try to find any Muslims in the Epstein files. In Russia, the division doing all the innovation with drones is the Akhmat Special Forces which are led by Lt. Gen. Apti Alaudinov, who is a MUSLIM, who, in an interview in October, mentioned his approach to prisoners of war. “… it was better to preserve the lives of your most skilled and dangerous opponents than to take them. … If you can capture them, then you must treat them humanely and with honor so that when they go home to their families they will be able to help dispel the hate-filled propaganda that had helped fuel the passions of war amongst the infected populations.”
Now compare this with how the "world's most moral army" operates.
Which is pretty crazy when they have just banned "Doctors without Borders" from entering Gaza, plus other aid providers, all while still blockading trucks with life-giving aid to deliberately starved people and much needed protection from weather, and medical supplies. Yet they think they can talk about protecting Christians when they've bombed Christian churches, abducted them as well in Gaza. How blind, dumb and stupid do they think people are when we've been seeing their total evil continuously over, at least, the past 26 months?
The so-called ceasefire has not stopped their murderous behavour, hasn't meant they let in the number of trucks they promised - their promises last as long as a bubble landing on a flame. Honesty? They have never used it, never really heard of it, not even with each other. So, if they say they are out to protect Christians - I say to Christians, 'Run for your lives.' because once in their sights you are going find out what ^protection^ means when used by israelis.
They are murderers and liars. Gullible and openly corrupt amoral political thugs accept the fascists vile arguments. Power. Money. Racism. Liars. The Zionist fanatics are a true menace to society
What stumps me is the silence from so many countries, when the fact is if the zionists manage to steal Palestine, it's only the beginning, it will not stop there. So the West isn't as safe as it thinks, even supporting them now will not protect them when zionists turn their eyes towards which countries might bring them the most wealth, from whatever energy, or other sources they have available to be extorted. Of course the first countries will be those with rather small standing armies, cowards always go for the easiest first as their rape of Palestine has proved.
I’ll rest easier tonight knowing Netanyahu is “prepared to defend Christians around the globe.” Did he mention that to Trump? That he’s going to defend an entire nation of Christians (called Venezuela) if Trump doesn’t be nice to them?
I’m not a theologian but this whole idea that God gave Palestine to Jews because it’s in the Old Testament as some kind of real estate deal if they’d behave is absurd. If they want to go with that they’ll have to acknowledge God gave Moses the Ten Commandments which they ignore, except the Sabbath one. They want the land but not the rules.
Exactly. They distort everything to get their own way, as though none of us can read, assess and know when a lie is a lie and when the bible is used as a weapon to stop anyone from saying what we know us the truth - usrael us a murdering, obnoxious apartheid state.
Eretz Israel is the child of the British and American Empires. Without their ongoing support, Israel would not exist. The US Congress could end the genocide, immediately, by ending such support.
Whataboutism, exaggeration, and other distractions won't stop decent humans from publicly opposing Z10n1 g3n0c1d3 until the perpetrators have seen the inside of the International Criminal Court, and the innocent victims are free of the incessant dehumanization.
The most anti-Semitic (meaning anti- Arabic or -Hebrew speaker) thing being done in 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 is Isra3l's slaughtering of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians, and Z10n12ts excusing their G3n0c1d3 complicity as being about defending Semites. Thou Shall Not Murder.
Dr. Ashrawi on the Memory of Deir Yassin: ‘Israel’s Systematic Massacres Persisted’
APR 10, 2015
On April 9, sixty-seven years ago, armed members of Zionist terrorist organizations, the Irgun and the Stern gangs, attacked the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin
and brutally murdered more than one hundred innocent men, women and children. PNN reports that mostly all under the age of nine, fifty-five young children were orphaned
and literally dumped in the Old City of Jerusalem to fend for themselves; Hind al-Husseini rescued the children and founded Dar Al-Tifl Al-Arabi (Arab Children’s House),
an orphanage for the young survivors, two weeks later.‘The Deir Yassin massacre was a turning point in the history of the people of Palestine, and it continues to serve
as a necessary reminder of Israel’s ongoing policies of displacement, dispossession and dehumanization, and its willful erasure of the Palestinian narrative and human
presence in historical Palestine,’ PLO executive committee member Dr. Hanan Ashrawi said in a statement.Ashrawi gave recent examples of Israel’s continued campaign of deliberate
massacres which occurred last summer when it waged a brutal and ruthless assault on the Palestinians of Gaza. ‘On July 20, at least sixty Palestinians were murdered in the Shuja’eyya
neighborhood, and between July 7 and August 21, one hundred and forty-two families in Gaza were partially or completely obliterated by Israel.’
See VIDEO: Gaza City’s Devastated Al-Shuja’eyya Suburb ‘Since its creation, Israel’s systematic policies of destruction and massacres have persisted,’ Ashrawi added. ‘Deir Yassin,
Nasir al-Din, Haifa, Yazur, Bayt Daras, al-Tantura, al-Lydd, al-Dawayima, Saliha, Qibya, Kafr Qasim, and Shuja’eyya, among other names, will remain forever engraved in our hearts
and minds and always serve as symbols of Palestinian steadfastness and perseverance.’
Once again, Caitlin, rational, articulate, well presented, explicatory, on the money. And entirely lost on the Israelis/Zionists. Not a failing of your writing, it simply comes down to who they are (for one thing, unbelievably self-absorbed supremacists), and what they do (engage in all manner of petulance, to put it mildly, in service to their aggrandizement, their sense of self-entitlement). There's no changing any of this, I mean if they're willing to sacrifice, literally and unhesitatingly kill their own for the sake of their "project," they are off in the province of the irredeemable. The WHO should be coming up with a new entry in the ICD (International Classification of Disease) to describe and monitor the psychopathology that is Israeli society. It parallels rabies, the Black Death, the Spanish flu, and smallpox among scourges of humankind.
Addendum: Just saw that Haaretz has a piece on the new far-right (i.e. rabid) chairwoman (i.e. bitch) of the Knesset Health Committee "renewing push for Israel's withdrawal from the World Health Organization... arguing that the Geneva-based international agency is antisemitic and poses a threat to Israel and its sovereignty."
Okay, this is the ne plus ultra definition of crazy, delusional, right...?
TBH, since 7 October, does anyone actually understand the meaning of "anti-Semitic"? Seems to me if someone blinks too often, "antisemitic", scratches their butt, "antisemitic", is Jewish, "antisemitic", is not Jewish, "antisemitic"... 🙄
Actually, even before Oct. 7th the term wasn't properly understood; a Semite was a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs
Now, the term is completely meaningless as it seems everyone is or has been tarred with the antisemitic brush, at some point. When non-Zionist Jews are labeled as antisemitic, then the whole thing is a farce.
Neocons have form in this, feigning a touching concern for Muh Afghan Women And Girls when the Pentagon commissioned studies which determined that this was the most persuasive argument for continuing the War On Afghanistan.
That Iz-ra-HELL (and Zionists) have had the PSYOP of CHRISTIANS vs. MUSLIMS for DECADES now.
They OPENLY STATE that they want Christians & Muslims to KILL EACH OTHER OFF.
There are plenty of vids, of 'them' stating this.
Iz-ra-HELL's worst NIGHTMARE is Christians & Muslims COMING TOGETHER.
And, just a 'HAVE YOU NOTICED'........
As RIGHT ON CUE.....the moment AFTER NuttyYahoo meets with TRAITOR Trump, all in unison......
those outlets that are FAKE NEWS......start with their 'MASS PROTESTS IN IRAN', and LIE about it, as if the country is unstable, which it is NOT! And NO ONE IS BEING SHOT, by the military! The People FULLY BACK the Iranian govt/military!!
So, it looks like the TRAITOR Trump/NuttyYahoo meeting was about ATTACKING IRAN......AGAIN!
another reminder: christian-zionists have the same psy-op going in jews and muslims killing each other off. still doubting the function of religion in the larger scheme of things?
there's 12 to 14 million jews globally who kinda identify as zionist, there's probably 20+ christians in the us alone who identify as zionists. if you live in the us, you're lucky you don't have to travel to take on the zionists which you call satanists. get a hold of the cufi-membershiplist to start your excorsisms.
Israel and its supporters are trying to destroy our democracy, tear down our Government, divide our society and poison our culture.
And our "leaders" are falling over themselves to make it happen.
The only consolation is the harder the Ziojewraelis push their propaganda the more stupid they get and the more aware people become of their interference in media, Government and politics. And that just pisses people off even more. Eventually even politicians have to take note.
I am hoping Australians still have a good bullshit detector and have picked up the level of power the Ziojewraelis wield in our country and take action to stop it. The only consolation is that the harder the Zionazis push the more pissed off people get with them.
In world countries all countries with the Zionist Rothschild's central banking .which is majority of countries especially in west are ruled by Zionism
The zionist is a species protected by our institutions, using financial clout, blackmail and anti semitism as its weapons.
" By deception do war". Mossad mission statement.
If only we could shout out a gotcha moment like the one published by these artists:
https://peakd.com/conspiracy/@budz82/9-11-and-the-israeli-bomb-expert-infiltrated-art-groups-gelatin-demo-wiring-team-and-e-team-sol-gel-team
nah, your democracy, government, society and culture suit them just fine. they'll appreciate your defense of those things against the commies.
What Communists? China is not Communist and Russia has not been since 1991 and North Korea counts for zip.
the cpc practices socialism with chinese characteristics and adhere to the principles of communism (f. engels), i've been told. i did not say russia is communist, it is capitalist, as everyone knows. i was referring to the commies under your bed.
China is capitalist but retains the old ruling regime, formerly communist. China is no longer Communist in any real sense.
what commies under the bed? Communism is gone, dead and buried and while new forms may emerge which claim or aim to bring benefits and a better life to ordinary people, it will not be Communism.
The biggest danger we face is Capitalism unchecked where everything is sold to the highest bidder and everything is about making money instead of ensuring a good quality of life for ordinary people.
i do not agree with your opinion on what is communist and what isn't. afaik, communism is not a benevolent master who brings benefits and a better life to ordinary people. history teaches that capitalism can't be 'checked'. if the great hominoid apes want to survive as a species (but hey, maybe they don't), they must abolish it, imo.
Communism was a great idea which did not take human nature into account.
Capitalism is the same. So is much religion.
Capitalism can be regulated and in most developed nations it is. Not so the US.
More important than ever! The work that the Hind Rajab Foundation is doing to track down and bring Israeli criminals to justice is one that is vital in the effort to hold Israel accountable. Let us hope they will also turn their sights on the criminal leaders of the countries of the west who are co-perpetrators of these crimes.
Find out what they’re doing here:
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Great news. Anyone not moved by Hind’s story does not have a heart.
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But how many have they brought to justice?
Answer: None
These things can take years as did with Nazis but in the end they will face Hague .But that can't happen while we ruled by Zionists
Israel is a terrorist state. It and supporters are evil. Cancel them. Make Israel Palestine Again.
Just like the bolshevik jews that took over Russia in 1917 and murdered over 60 million Russian Christians. Zionists are the new bolsheviks
60 million Christians and Muslims
there's more christian zionists than jewish zionists. they're quite easy to spot because they try to accelerate the ultimate showdown with the jews in israel. they also don't give a f*ck about palestinians or muslims (or any other people but christians; they also hate communists).
Looks like a small army of Israeli bots dispatched to infiltrate your feed, Caitlin.
After Israel's report that this Substack is the #1 source of online anti-Semitism it makes perfect sense.
Anti semitism means truth telling
Infiltrate anyone speakingbouton Palestine .and just on any general platform .They flooding platforms with .AI video post .Fake video post .We just have keep pushing back on these comments .
It's the usual obfuscation and diversion from the real story. "Let's get them talking about socialism and away from genocide, war crimes and land theft" . Take the wanna be scholarly "intellectual" discussion elsewhere. It has no bearing on the current truth of what is happening to the Palestinians.
I would love for someone to mention to Trump out of the blue when he complains about Venezuela being "socialist" that Israel is also socialist. In fact, Israel is more socialist than Venezuela, but only for Jews. That social safety net is only for them. What is the proportion of Israeli land owned by the state--over 80%? Maduro could only dream of such a thing.
Hardly: Israel land laws are based on the old land laws of the Ottoman Empire where the state owns most of the land (93% but it is leased out longterm like the land the Arab Palestinians occupired before their expulsion, 93% and both transferable and inheritable so that in effect, it was tho technically state owned, privately controlled. Israel is not a socialist nation; it has national healthcare and education but it is the private sector which dominates. Venezuela tho led by socialists is also mostly capitalist with 70% of the economy in private (capitalist) hands. It's time to understand that socialism is not a thing but a process......with many varieties and many hybrid forms. Among the most socialist nations, Norway; among the least, Israel, tho at one time, before the rightwing took control, a kind of folksy socialism was present, today kind of pushed aside. Mostly, Isral is highly capitalistic: . Israel is highly capitalistic by global standards, but with a unique twist because of its historical socialist roots and state control over land. Here’s the breakdown:
1. Core capitalist traits
Market-driven economy: Most of Israel’s GDP comes from the private sector, particularly high-tech, finance, manufacturing, and services.
Entrepreneurship: Israel is a global startup hub (“Startup Nation”) with strong venture capital, foreign investment, and private ownership of companies.
Privatization: Many formerly state-owned industries (banks, airlines, telecommunications) have been privatized over the last 30–40 years.
Wealth creation: Individuals and private companies accumulate capital, own property (subject to leases), and trade freely."
Good comment. As you said, Venezuela is also not socialist by any pure metric, but that doesn't keep idiots from whining that it is. My only point is that Zionists founded Israel on socialist ideals, but virtually no Western government ever whispers that because it's not convenient to their narrative. And no one forced Israel to keep Ottoman land laws in place, but those laws were useful to keep land out of Palestinian hands.
Yes, Labor Zionists founded Israel but not only on socialist but on a fused nationalist ideology, in otherwords, national socialism, the same model used by the Nazis, which soon degenerated from socialism to privatization and capitalism in control. And yes, the same land laws Israel used to justify ousting Palestinians from their land was then adopted by the state to create a Jewish ethno state, which today is in the hands of farright pro-capitalist thugs. To quote my pal Al: "Zionism fused nationalism + socialism. The idea was to create a “new Jew”: productive, collective, rooted in land and labor, not commerce or finance. That was ideological, not just practical.
Where people get sloppy is ignoring what happened later:
From the late 1970s onward, especially after Likud’s rise in 1977, Israel steadily shifted:
Privatization
Weakened unions
This
High-tech capitalism
Growing inequality
Modern Israel is not socialist in any meaningful sense. But the state was founded by socialists, using socialist institutions, with socialist goals.
So the clean formulation is:
Israel was founded by socialist Zionists, even though it later evolved into a predominantly capitalist economy
The break: 1977 “Mahapach” (upheaval)
In 1977, Menachem Begin’s Likud won national elections.
That was the turning point.
Why it mattered:
It ended nearly 50 years of Labor rule.
Power shifted to a coalition of:
Revisionist Zionists (nationalist, not socialist)
Mizrahi voters alienated by Labor elites
Small-business and market-oriented interests
This wasn’t a blip. Labor never recovered its old dominance.
3. Dismantling the socialist state (1980s–1990s)
Even when Labor briefly returned to government (Rabin, Peres):
Privatization continued
The Histadrut was cut down to size
State monopolies were sold off
Israel embraced neoliberal reforms, especially after the 1985 economic crisis
The logic of the system changed. Labor managed capitalism; it no longer ran a socialist project.
4. Today
Labor is now a minor party, sometimes barely clearing the electoral threshold.
The institutions Labor built still exist (public land ownership, welfare remnants), but their ideological purpose is gone.
Power is held by:
Right-wing nationalists
Religious parties
Capitalist elites (especially tech and finance)
Bottom line
Labor socialists didn’t just “lose elections.”
They lost:
Cultural authority
Economic control
Institutional dominance
By the late 20th century, Israel had moved from socialist nation-building to nationalist capitalism.
So yes—Labor socialists lost control of Israel, and they never got it back.."
Blah blah blah 😡
As if capitalism is a good thing. Interest, limited liability and fiat money keep Pigrael afloat. Moneylending, along with prophet kiling, is one of the core reasons why Hashem expelled the jews in the first place.
As a transitional tool, capitalism is useful in a democratic socialist society, to create wealth and jobs, without being allowed to dominate the economy and the political process. Examples range from Norway, where the state generates and owns the majority of wealth (on behalf of the people) with a vibrant private sector that creates most of the jobs and actually works for the state (extracting and marketing offshore oil, then taxed 78%) or China, where the private sector employs the most people, generates the most wealth, creates huge concentrations of wealth, in a system run by Marxists seeing this as a step in the eventual transformation from a state socialism/hybrid system to communism, which Marx said would arise only in the most industrialized, wealthy nations with concentrations of wealth....a path China is pursuing with quiet persistance, building its wealth by using the private sector without letting it run the country, as in capitalist nations like the US or South Africa.
Capitalism is cannibalist and will eat itself.
Linda Hagge, sorry to inform you but Israel is not even REMOTELY socialist, not even for Jews. Maybe you're confusing 'socialism' with 'welfare policies'?
Maybe you should read a little something about early Zionists and what they had in mind for the country. Any number of writers have commented about the hypocrisy of Westerners who get all het up about so-called "socialism" in Central and South America, but ignore the self-same policies in Israel.
Maybe you should read something about what Socialism IS and ISN'T. Again, I dare you to find ANY expert on Israel that will even remotely call Israel socialist (whether it pertains to Jews or not).
Also, reading up on the history and economics of Israel would help too.
There is simply NO COMPARISON between Venezuela and Israel.
Very similar policies in Venezuela: "Venezuela has implemented a range of socialist policies since the late 1990s under the leadership of Hugo Chávez, who promoted what he called "21st-century socialism".
The government pursued widespread nationalization of key industries, including oil, telecommunications, banking, and agriculture, aiming to redistribute wealth and reduce inequality.
The state-owned oil company, Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), became central to funding expansive social programs.
These social programs, known as misiones, focused on providing free healthcare, education, and subsidized food to the poor, leading to significant improvements in literacy and access to medical care in the early 2000s.
For example, the number of primary care doctors increased from 1,628 in 1999 to 19,571 by 2007, and social spending per person rose by 170% between 1998 and 2006.
The government also promoted worker cooperatives and community councils to encourage participatory democracy and social ownership, with around 100,000 cooperatives employing over 700,000 workers by 2006.
Chavismo, the political ideology associated with Chávez and later Nicolás Maduro, combines elements of democratic socialism, Bolivarianism, and anti-neoliberalism, emphasizing opposition to International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank policies."
Still no-go. Here is a breakdown of the DIFFERENCE between Venezuela and Israel's political economy ->
Venezuela’s political economy centers on state control of resources and redistribution tied to a populist socialist project. Israel’s political economy is a capitalist, market‑oriented mixed system with significant private‑sector dynamism, diversified exports and stronger institutions, combined with social welfare programs.
Venezuela is a state‑led, Bolivarian socialism — strong executive control, nationalizations (oil, utilities, some industries), price and foreign‑exchange controls, centralized redistribution through social programs whereas Israel is a market‑oriented mixed capitalist system — private sector–driven growth, regulated markets, targeted welfare provision, limited state ownership after waves of privatization.
In Venezuela, state dominates key sectors (PDVSA), weakened checks and balances, frequent politicization of judiciary and regulators, extensive administrative controls, whereas in Israel the state regulates and provides public goods (health, education, defense), independent central bank, stronger rule‑of‑law and regulatory institutions relative to Venezuela; political debates influence policy but institutions remain more pluralistic.
And here is the DIFFERENCE between a SOCIALIST country and a country with 'socialist policies' -> A socialist country typically has a government that controls the means of production and aims for collective ownership, often with limited private enterprise. In contrast, a country with socialist policies may incorporate social welfare programs and regulations within a primarily capitalist framework, allowing for both public and private ownership.
Also, if you've read ANY of Marx, Engels, Rosa Luxemburg, Trotsky, Lenin, or Mao, you would understand 'state socialism' (as mentioned above) is NOT the Socialism as per the DEFINITION of socialism. (Socialism is an economic and political system where the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned or regulated by the community as a whole, aiming to achieve greater social equality and reduce income disparities).
I up-voted your comment here & elsewhere CC without noting that you are mostly engaging in semantic consolidation of the popular and Cold War loaded term "Socialist."
In reality and apart from ideological commitments often segmented to one or another side of the Cold War and never fully pure implementation of the division of capital\labor\property\Public Institutions\Publicly backed if "Private Finance Institutions" when you launch into comparisons with other manifestly if rarely purely "Socialist" labeled nation-states.
Despite it often being a case of self-labeled ideological or political alliance and trade relations that makes late 20th & as yet early 21st Century "Globalized E-CON" nation-states one or another of the prescribed boxes to be checked in academic and\or State Department institutional and governmental nomenclature.
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/022415/what-role-nationstate-globalization.asp
https://pressbooks.howardcc.edu/soci101/chapter/13-2-types-of-economic-systems/
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/07/21/free-markets-besieged-citizens-gerstle-kuttner/
https://prospect.org/2019/06/25/neoliberalism-political-success-economic-failure/
"Neoliberalism: Political Success, Economic Failure"
"...The invisible hand is more like a thumb on the scale for the world’s elites. That’s why market fundamentalism has been unmasked as bogus economics but keeps winning politically."
Robert Kuttner
by Robert Kuttner
June 25, 2019
https://www.chronicle.com/article/larry-summers-and-the-subversion-of-economics/
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AI disagrees: "Socialist policies in Israel were dominant during the first decades following its establishment in 1948, particularly under the leadership of the Mapai party and its successor, the Labor Party, which held power until 1977.
The early Israeli economy was characterized by extensive public ownership, with major industries such as minerals extraction, water and electricity, transportation, communications, and military manufacturing under state control.
A significant portion of land—93%—was publicly owned, and the construction industry was largely nationalized or organized as cooperatives.
The labor movement, especially through the Histadrut (General Federation of Labor founded in 1920), played a central role in the economy.
The Histadrut not only represented workers but also owned enterprises across sectors, including 38% of banking, 18% of insurance, and 25% of manufacturing.
One of its major holdings, Koor Industries, alone accounted for 10% of GDP.
Agriculture was predominantly organized in worker cooperatives, with kibbutzim and moshavim controlling 74% of agricultural output.
A comprehensive welfare state was established, including old-age pensions, disability benefits, maternity leave, and accident insurance, administered by the National Insurance Institute (Bituah Leumi) founded in 1954.
Maternity benefits replaced 75% of wages for 12 weeks, and social security contributions were set at around 2.75% of wages.
The tax system was highly progressive, with top marginal rates reaching 60–66%, and an estate tax was introduced in 1950.
Labor rights were strongly protected, with legislation between 1951 and 1976 introducing restrictions on working hours, paid leave, child labor prohibitions, anti-discrimination laws for women, and workplace safety regulations.
Unionization rates were exceptionally high, with over 60% of the workforce unionized even by the end of the social democratic era.
Economic planning was central, with state controls on imports, exports, investment, and capital markets beginning in 1952–1953.
This model combined socialist ideology with developmental needs, fostering significant economic growth."
>>"AI disagrees"
HaHaHa - are you for real? I ask you to show me even a SINGLE expert that believes 'Israel is a socialist nation' and you provide some CRAPPY non-relevant response from an LLM (without providing your prompt - so I have no way to verify what exactly you asked it)?
Again, understand WHAT socialism is and isn't.
You're funny, Linda Hagge, and a disappointment to all 'thinking humans' (due to your above AI dependency).
[P.S.-> Socialist policies are not the same as designating a country to be a Socialist country. Lot's of capitalist countries have socialist policies - especially the Nordic countries).
It seems you, CC, are wearing historical blinders while LH is taking into account early pre-state Zionist institutions, the fact that under-capitalized state-founding ventures have little choice but to be modeled on Socialism in order to be able to later shed it in the standard Privatization schemes of our late 20th Century Cold War and Corporate Capture campaigns and wealth concentrated "private" schemes of the crony class.
Not to mention Israel's most enduring and (Political Economy) dominant organization, The Histadrut (pronounced with long "o" sound where the single letter "u" is used in orthography from Hebe\Ivrith):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histadrut
"History
Old symbol of Histadrut
Histadrut headquarters in Tel Aviv
"The Histadrut was founded in December 1920 in Haifa to look out for the interests of Jewish workers. Until 1920, Ahdut HaAvoda and Hapoel Hatzair had been unable to set up a unified workers organisation.[1] In 1920, Third Aliyah immigrants founded Gdud HaAvoda and demanded a unified organization for all Jewish workers, which led to the establishment of the Histadrut.[2] At the end of 1921 David Ben-Gurion was elected as Secretary.[3] Membership grew from 4,400 in 1920 and to 8,394 members in 1922."
"In 1926 the Histadrut supported an art studio in Tel Aviv.[4][5] By 1927, the Histadrut had around 22,000 members, accounting for 68% of the Jewish workforce in Mandatory Palestine. In 1939, its membership stood at about 100,000, or about 75% of the Jewish workforce."
Labor Zionism
"More important than the 1917 American Federation of Labor (AFL) resolution recognizing "the legitimate claims of the Jewish people for the establishment of a national homeland in Palestine on the basis of self-government", was the grassroots campaign to finance Histadrut land purchases, infrastructure development and the establishment of farm cooperatives. Jewish garment workers in the US in the early 20th century looked more to local improvements than the promises of Labor Zionism..."
"The symbolic AFL endorsement of the Balfour Declaration failed to advance Zionist goals on the ground and many Jewish labor leaders were opposed to Zionist endeavors until the 1920 founding of Histadrut began to change their views. Within three years some labor leaders had reversed their positions, calling for moral and financial support for Histadrut. The garment unions Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America and International Ladies Garment Workers Union extended their support to Histadrut.[6]"
"The Histadrut became one of the most powerful institutions in the state of Israel, a mainstay of the Labour Zionist movement and, aside from being a trade union, its state-building role made it the owner of a number of businesses and factories."
"Until Israel began moving away from a socialist economy, the Histadrut, along with the government, owned most of the economy. It was the second largest employer in the country next to the government itself via its many cooperative enterprises.[7] Through its economic arm, Hevrat HaOvdim ("Society of Workers"), the Histadrut owned and operated numerous enterprises, including the country's largest industrial conglomerates, the country's largest bank, Bank Hapoalim, and the country's largest shipping company, ZIM Integrated Shipping Services..."
"...The Israeli services sector was completely dominated by the Histadrut and government, and the Histadrut also largely dominated the public transport, agriculture, and insurance industries.[8][9]"
"In addition, it owned Clalit Health Services, Israel's largest Kupat Holim, or health insurance and medical services fund. Clalit was the only health fund in the country to accept members without discriminating based on their age or medical situation, but with the condition that they must also be members of the Histadrut labor union. As such, many Israelis were dependent on Histadrut membership for their health insurance. In the mid-1980s, an estimated 70% of the Israeli population was insured by Clalit.[10]"
"Neoliberalism"
"See also: 1985 Israel Economic Stabilization Plan and Kibbutz crisis"
"With the increasing liberalization and deregulation of the Israeli economy since the 1980s, the role and size of Histadrut declined. Hyperinflation saddled its business empire with enormous debts, and slow economic growth exposed its inefficiencies. Due to debts, the Histadrut began giving up its business holdings. It lost control of Bank Hapoalim in the aftermath of the 1983 Israel bank stock crisis, when the Israeli government nationalized it along with other major banks.[11]"
"A notable shift in power took place in 1994 when the Labor Party lost its leadership and governing role in the Histadrut, and a new party named RAM, composed of individuals who had left the Labor Party due to internal power struggles, took charge and began to sell off or eliminate its non-union-related assets and activities, proclaiming that from then on, it would function solely as a trade union. The most severe blow came when Israel's National Health Insurance Law came into effect in 1995, instituting a national universal health care framework and reorganizing the Israeli healthcare system."
"Under the law, Clalit Health Services' tie to the Histadrut was severed and Israelis were given a choice in membership between Clalit and the three other Israeli health insurance funds, which were now prohibited from discriminating against applicants for age and medical reasons. Once an affiliation with the Histadrut was no longer a prerequisite for membership in Clalit, many of its insured dropped their labor union membership, while others switched to other health funds now that age or pre-existing conditions no longer precluded them from joining...."
"This resulted in one of the largest declines in union membership in labor history. The Histadrut's membership plunged almost instantly from 1.8 million (almost 80% of the workforce at the time) to about 200,000 members. The loss of revenue generated from Clalit's health insurance premiums and union dues caused an enormous decline in the Histadrut's resources, and it was forced to sell off valuable real estate assets to survive.[12]"
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>>"It seems you, CC, are wearing historical blinders"
No I'm not, MR. I'm well aware of Israeli history (including so-called 'Socialist Zionism or left-wing Zionism, the kibbutz culture, etc.).
The Zionist Jews that settled in Palestine (from the very beginning) were settler-colonialists, regardless of 'how well they took care of their Ashkani Jew brothers and sisters, unions, whatever'.
Again, just because a country has labor unions does not make it a socialist country. As an example, there are many labor unions in the U.S. that don't really care about socialism but rather worker's wages (and working conditions) in a capitalist, corporate environment.
I hope you're not fooled by 'left-wing Zionism' or 'Socialist Zionism' narratives. Just as one cannot have kibbutz on stolen land with exclusionary (i.e. non-Jew) policies and call themselves a 'socialist setup', similarly states/organizations cannot claim to be 'socialist' by having 'unions' while EXCLUDING non-Jews or treating people of different ethnicities differently (again, that too on stolen land and resources).
Most people that try to argue in favor of 'Zionist socialism' don't really understand Socialism well enough to be able to make a convincing argument.
Troll, linda
The government owns most of the land.
Again, if you think Socialism is about whether 'a Govt. owns the land' (state property) or a 'private entity owns the land' (private property), or a 'personal entity owns the land' (personal property), then you haven't really understood what SOCIALISM is.
Funded by the US taxpayer...
Not in the least. Taxes at the federal level are NOT used for spending by the Govt. (MMT - modern monetary theory), despite the rhetoric and false narratives. This has been so for several decades now. Taxes at the federal level are used for other purposes (like managing inflation, etc.).
Read up on MMT (Modern Monetary Theory). From the standpoint of MMT, here are some in-depth insights into the relationship between taxation and monetary policy ->
1. Currency Value: MMT argues that taxes give value to money. By requiring taxes to be paid in the government's currency, it creates a demand for that currency, thus supporting its value.
2. Inflation Control: Taxation is a tool to manage aggregate demand. If an economy is overheating, taxes can be increased to reduce spending power, curbing inflation.
3. Wealth Redistribution: Taxes can be used to redistribute wealth and address inequality. Progressive taxation, where the tax rate increases with income, is one example that MMT proponents might cite.
4. Public Purpose: According to MMT, taxes can be levied to achieve public goals, such as reducing consumption of harmful goods through sin taxes or encouraging beneficial activities via tax credits.
Israel is an INTEGRAL part of the U.S. Empire, hence it has (and will continue to be) funded by the 'power elite' regardless of anything else (i.e. it has no relationship to the spending of money on domestic policies).
You really need two sit up sometimes - https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
Did you even understand my comment? My comment is not about Aid/no-aid. It's about the SOURCE of this aid - i.e. the funds. These funds don't come from taxes.
Try reading my comment again in context of this discussion (i.e. your comment about "funded by U.S. Taxpayer" and my response about "these funds not coming from taxes, but still coming from the U.S. Govt.).
Pay attention!
The US government is funded by TAXES. Period. No god like intervention, not printing money- taxes.
Netanyahu calling it “our common Judeo-Christian civilization’s battle is an insult to all of us, especially to people who consider themselves Christian. Or civilized. I could never, would never see anything that Israel has done over the past 100 years as as something that is common to what I want. I would not go anywhere, not even one block, to hear Netanyahu speak. I would not want to be in the same room as him. Unfortunately I do believe he was born a human being and I am sorry and disgusted to even have that in common with him.
Is that the same Christian civilization that Israel has been attacking across the ME?
Oh, I’d go hear him speak.
With the thirty-ought-six.
Thank you Caitlin! Try to find any Muslims in the Epstein files. In Russia, the division doing all the innovation with drones is the Akhmat Special Forces which are led by Lt. Gen. Apti Alaudinov, who is a MUSLIM, who, in an interview in October, mentioned his approach to prisoners of war. “… it was better to preserve the lives of your most skilled and dangerous opponents than to take them. … If you can capture them, then you must treat them humanely and with honor so that when they go home to their families they will be able to help dispel the hate-filled propaganda that had helped fuel the passions of war amongst the infected populations.”
Now compare this with how the "world's most moral army" operates.
I've never liked 'the best defence is a good offence' idea, and this one is sickening.
There's absolutely nothing that can put lipstick on a genocide, so they demonize others to take the heat off Israel.
Which is pretty crazy when they have just banned "Doctors without Borders" from entering Gaza, plus other aid providers, all while still blockading trucks with life-giving aid to deliberately starved people and much needed protection from weather, and medical supplies. Yet they think they can talk about protecting Christians when they've bombed Christian churches, abducted them as well in Gaza. How blind, dumb and stupid do they think people are when we've been seeing their total evil continuously over, at least, the past 26 months?
The so-called ceasefire has not stopped their murderous behavour, hasn't meant they let in the number of trucks they promised - their promises last as long as a bubble landing on a flame. Honesty? They have never used it, never really heard of it, not even with each other. So, if they say they are out to protect Christians - I say to Christians, 'Run for your lives.' because once in their sights you are going find out what ^protection^ means when used by israelis.
They are murderers and liars. Gullible and openly corrupt amoral political thugs accept the fascists vile arguments. Power. Money. Racism. Liars. The Zionist fanatics are a true menace to society
You said, Davina. It's so true. It makes me sick that they're not allowing aid and doctors into Gaza, all the while pointing fingers at Muslims.
What stumps me is the silence from so many countries, when the fact is if the zionists manage to steal Palestine, it's only the beginning, it will not stop there. So the West isn't as safe as it thinks, even supporting them now will not protect them when zionists turn their eyes towards which countries might bring them the most wealth, from whatever energy, or other sources they have available to be extorted. Of course the first countries will be those with rather small standing armies, cowards always go for the easiest first as their rape of Palestine has proved.
I’ll rest easier tonight knowing Netanyahu is “prepared to defend Christians around the globe.” Did he mention that to Trump? That he’s going to defend an entire nation of Christians (called Venezuela) if Trump doesn’t be nice to them?
I’m not a theologian but this whole idea that God gave Palestine to Jews because it’s in the Old Testament as some kind of real estate deal if they’d behave is absurd. If they want to go with that they’ll have to acknowledge God gave Moses the Ten Commandments which they ignore, except the Sabbath one. They want the land but not the rules.
Exactly. They distort everything to get their own way, as though none of us can read, assess and know when a lie is a lie and when the bible is used as a weapon to stop anyone from saying what we know us the truth - usrael us a murdering, obnoxious apartheid state.
Israel is a genocidal, criminal organization.
Eretz Israel is the child of the British and American Empires. Without their ongoing support, Israel would not exist. The US Congress could end the genocide, immediately, by ending such support.
Consider who owns the US Congress.
💯!
Whataboutism, exaggeration, and other distractions won't stop decent humans from publicly opposing Z10n1 g3n0c1d3 until the perpetrators have seen the inside of the International Criminal Court, and the innocent victims are free of the incessant dehumanization.
The most anti-Semitic (meaning anti- Arabic or -Hebrew speaker) thing being done in 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 is Isra3l's slaughtering of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians, and Z10n12ts excusing their G3n0c1d3 complicity as being about defending Semites. Thou Shall Not Murder.
Dr. Ashrawi on the Memory of Deir Yassin: ‘Israel’s Systematic Massacres Persisted’
APR 10, 2015
On April 9, sixty-seven years ago, armed members of Zionist terrorist organizations, the Irgun and the Stern gangs, attacked the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin
and brutally murdered more than one hundred innocent men, women and children. PNN reports that mostly all under the age of nine, fifty-five young children were orphaned
and literally dumped in the Old City of Jerusalem to fend for themselves; Hind al-Husseini rescued the children and founded Dar Al-Tifl Al-Arabi (Arab Children’s House),
an orphanage for the young survivors, two weeks later.‘The Deir Yassin massacre was a turning point in the history of the people of Palestine, and it continues to serve
as a necessary reminder of Israel’s ongoing policies of displacement, dispossession and dehumanization, and its willful erasure of the Palestinian narrative and human
presence in historical Palestine,’ PLO executive committee member Dr. Hanan Ashrawi said in a statement.Ashrawi gave recent examples of Israel’s continued campaign of deliberate
massacres which occurred last summer when it waged a brutal and ruthless assault on the Palestinians of Gaza. ‘On July 20, at least sixty Palestinians were murdered in the Shuja’eyya
neighborhood, and between July 7 and August 21, one hundred and forty-two families in Gaza were partially or completely obliterated by Israel.’
See VIDEO: Gaza City’s Devastated Al-Shuja’eyya Suburb ‘Since its creation, Israel’s systematic policies of destruction and massacres have persisted,’ Ashrawi added. ‘Deir Yassin,
Nasir al-Din, Haifa, Yazur, Bayt Daras, al-Tantura, al-Lydd, al-Dawayima, Saliha, Qibya, Kafr Qasim, and Shuja’eyya, among other names, will remain forever engraved in our hearts
and minds and always serve as symbols of Palestinian steadfastness and perseverance.’
Once again, Caitlin, rational, articulate, well presented, explicatory, on the money. And entirely lost on the Israelis/Zionists. Not a failing of your writing, it simply comes down to who they are (for one thing, unbelievably self-absorbed supremacists), and what they do (engage in all manner of petulance, to put it mildly, in service to their aggrandizement, their sense of self-entitlement). There's no changing any of this, I mean if they're willing to sacrifice, literally and unhesitatingly kill their own for the sake of their "project," they are off in the province of the irredeemable. The WHO should be coming up with a new entry in the ICD (International Classification of Disease) to describe and monitor the psychopathology that is Israeli society. It parallels rabies, the Black Death, the Spanish flu, and smallpox among scourges of humankind.
Addendum: Just saw that Haaretz has a piece on the new far-right (i.e. rabid) chairwoman (i.e. bitch) of the Knesset Health Committee "renewing push for Israel's withdrawal from the World Health Organization... arguing that the Geneva-based international agency is antisemitic and poses a threat to Israel and its sovereignty."
Okay, this is the ne plus ultra definition of crazy, delusional, right...?
TBH, since 7 October, does anyone actually understand the meaning of "anti-Semitic"? Seems to me if someone blinks too often, "antisemitic", scratches their butt, "antisemitic", is Jewish, "antisemitic", is not Jewish, "antisemitic"... 🙄
Actually, even before Oct. 7th the term wasn't properly understood; a Semite was a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs
Now, the term is completely meaningless as it seems everyone is or has been tarred with the antisemitic brush, at some point. When non-Zionist Jews are labeled as antisemitic, then the whole thing is a farce.
Yup. Throw in the IHRA definition, and high ozone level days become antisemitic.
Worst thing in the Capitalist world — an outbreak of peace. ✌️
No profit in peace.
Neocons have form in this, feigning a touching concern for Muh Afghan Women And Girls when the Pentagon commissioned studies which determined that this was the most persuasive argument for continuing the War On Afghanistan.
Just a REMINDER........
That Iz-ra-HELL (and Zionists) have had the PSYOP of CHRISTIANS vs. MUSLIMS for DECADES now.
They OPENLY STATE that they want Christians & Muslims to KILL EACH OTHER OFF.
There are plenty of vids, of 'them' stating this.
Iz-ra-HELL's worst NIGHTMARE is Christians & Muslims COMING TOGETHER.
And, just a 'HAVE YOU NOTICED'........
As RIGHT ON CUE.....the moment AFTER NuttyYahoo meets with TRAITOR Trump, all in unison......
those outlets that are FAKE NEWS......start with their 'MASS PROTESTS IN IRAN', and LIE about it, as if the country is unstable, which it is NOT! And NO ONE IS BEING SHOT, by the military! The People FULLY BACK the Iranian govt/military!!
So, it looks like the TRAITOR Trump/NuttyYahoo meeting was about ATTACKING IRAN......AGAIN!
But THIS time, Iran WILL END THEM!!
GOD (The Creator) BLESS IRAN!
another reminder: christian-zionists have the same psy-op going in jews and muslims killing each other off. still doubting the function of religion in the larger scheme of things?
There is no such thing as a 'Christian Zionist'.
It's an OXYMORON.
It's just like saying. DRY WATER' <<< does NOT exist!
One CANNOT be BOTH a Christian and a Zionist.
Therefore, what people call a 'Christian-Zionist', is, in reality, a SATANIST.
there's 12 to 14 million jews globally who kinda identify as zionist, there's probably 20+ christians in the us alone who identify as zionists. if you live in the us, you're lucky you don't have to travel to take on the zionists which you call satanists. get a hold of the cufi-membershiplist to start your excorsisms.
I 'call' them Satanists, because that is exactly wtf they ARE!
Going by your numbers, 32 to 34 million 'Zionists' is NOT a lot.
And I do not need to 'start my exorcisms'......I already know how this ends!
There's going to be a lot of 'Slaying Demons', in the very near future.
GOD (The Creator) ALWAYS wins!
#DemonSlayers
you indeed seem like a nice exemplar of a very sought after mindset.
The key phrase in your entire post: "Fear remains high". Long as that situation endures, the manipulators gonna manipulate.
They are a pathetic lying lot aren't they. Their fascist propaganda is so much BS and literally puke inducing garbage. But ever so dangerous.
Eat Me, I couldn’t finish reading the article: the clip of Satanyahu made me projectile-vomit on my phone…