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Vin LoPresti's avatar

No problem finding a villain.

I just read John Conyers' report of the Independent Congressional Committee on the USS Liberty attack. Talk about villainy. Here are two excerpts:

• "Israel committed acts of murder against US servicemen and an act of war against the United States".

•"a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel's interests when they conflict with American interests . . . evidenced by the failure to defend the USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israel attack".

There's much more gut-churning prose, all with the theme: the US would rather see its own citizens gunned down by insane Zionist murdering villains than utter a syllable against them.

Villainy squared.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi my dear Vin

And did you notice all of the redacted information concerning IsraHell when the JFK assassination papers were recently released?

>>>jabs finger at forehead<<< DO I HAVE “STUPID” WRITTEN HERE?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Apparently, gypsy, my dearest, those mediocrities in DC somehow believe that us proles who live away from that metropolis radiating unbridled wisdom into our duuuh-mock-crazie, not only have our foreheads stamped "Imbecile", but also that we should surrender ourselves as either fertilizer or soylent green -- at the whim of Israel's immediate needs, of course.

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Susan T's avatar

"On Friday, Elon Musk, the richest man in the world and the self-appointed dismantler of the United States government, was to have been given a top secret national security briefing at the Pentagon."(Michael Moore). Another time when there is a grave danger to American national security.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I. just read this. Very scary to me/as it should be to everyone.

What happens when these 2 morons get a divorce which is 100% likely to happen? I am talking about the 'self-appointed dismantler and the S. African Nazi.

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gypsy33's avatar

Agree, Jenny. Trump is far too narcissistic to allow Musk unbridled power.

There is bound to be a blowup at some point.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Trump is a slave of Zionists. Biden is a slave of Zionists. Congress also. Traitors.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Time for People's Trials--we need to try these traitors and pass judgment on them and give them the punishment they deserve.

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Mohamed's avatar

Oh, please don't forget the biggest Zionist slave: Elon Musk. He pretty much declared a war on the British government demanding the release Tommy Robinson, the Israeli agent, arch Zionist Islamophobe.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Yes. BUT who has the keys?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Nice phrase: "self-appointed dismantler"!

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

So a smart, successful person who has dealt with building solutions and fixing problems is a "danger"?!? That opinion explains why Democrats are failing at historic levels. Maybe Susan should go back to school to learn critical analysis and thinking skills. Hire smart, successful people to get smart solutions. Hire failures like Kamala and you get failure after failure after failure. We need to be honest rather than a loyal tribe members.

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Susan T's avatar

I am not sure if Musk is smart. In my view, his bank account does not make him successful. And I do not know of any solutions that he has come up with to make life better for the American people or for any other people. When I see him with a small child beside him, I think child abuser for some reason.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"When I see him with a small child beside him, I think child abuser for some reason."

Me too!

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JennyStokes's avatar

Well you do know that Musk is a family man with 14 kids.

His first child has changed her name!

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Susan T's avatar

He has 14 kids by several different women. Not exactly a family man. More like a gadabout who can pay women to have his children.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

No, really. Figures, don't it. Demigods gotta perpetuate that DNA through quantitative dispersal. Just plain Darwinian!

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Susan T's avatar

this is the kind of "family man" that Musk is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5aH-fb6Iow

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gypsy33's avatar

Chang, same here!!!

Why does he lug that kid around wherever he goes? Who DOES that?!

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Your history? Your desire? it's you Chang. Not musk. You know Chang. You don't know Elon.

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Landru's avatar

Thank you, people are now seeing that with his frankly dumb ass moves even in business. I work with very smart people and after 10 mins. you know they are smart. Mush 10 mins. and you wonder why people think he is smart. If Mush had stayed silent he could have continued to fool us : )

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

You have a mental mirror, that won't let you forget or forgive yourself for your abusive behavior. There are no other facts on the table - only your deep personal thoughts. And they are dangerous; you need professional help.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I would politely offer this view. Musk is not a scientist or an engineer, but a businessman, a participant -- the ultimate exemplar of a participant -- in an economic system that fosters EXTREME inequality that is not healthy for a society. Hence, I disagree with you that he "has dealt with building solutions and fixing problems". His experience and perspective provides him with zero experience necessary to do what he's doing. I'd trust my local independent pharmacist as a small businessman and observer of a broken healthcare system as far more capable in respect of understanding this society and its problems. And Democrats? Republicans? Both gigantic irrelevancies. I believe this to be more fundamental than duopoly politics.

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gypsy33's avatar

Vin, it’s just us here. You don’t have to be polite 😉

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

It's not so much politesse, it's gracieux, which I think is the wrong word because my French sucks. I'm practicing being amiable, contrary to the basic dictates of my intellectually confrontational style. And ma cher, if I'm not going to practice amiability toward you, than who? Who indeed?

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Vin

My French is nonexistent but I believe I get the just of it.

No worries: you still have me to hurl insults 😁

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Pay attention to Musk’s history of success and cutting costs. Musk, as the principal participant, drives existing technology. Musk has a FANTASTIC history driving technology that he did not invent - he only inspires solutions using the technology. Success is the best inspiration.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Fuck existing technology. I don't just swallow it as a good thing. That's the difference in our outlook -- as in the fucking morons who tout AI, an existing "solution", as replacing teachers. Bullshit. There is no substitute for one-to-one eye contact and compassion in teaching. We appear to have differing opinions of what constitutes successful solutions. End of story.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Vin, we must live in the world we are given. My best teachers supported and reinforced computerized learning. You can tilt at modern windmills; but you look silly doing so. Are you still traveling horseback? We have cars here in Missouri.

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gypsy33's avatar

No one’s talking about Scamala here, Nimrod. And I’d guess that few people here see themselves as “loyal democrats”.

Ask yourself

why Musk’s Teslas are “failing at historic levels”! 😂

The Amerikkkan people did NOT elect the wealthiest man in the world to decide whether or not we peons can collect our Social Security checks!

If you think Musk in an ASSET, there’s no hope whatsoever for you.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Well said Gypsy!

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I'm thinking that maybe the "bad glue" on the Tesla cyber trucks is an example of some inside opposition at the plant? I'd like to think the ordinary workers there have some conscience and want to do Muskrat in...

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi TRC

I actually SAW one in person for the first time the other day, in the small modest city where I grocery shop; I thought WHAT is that fucking thing doing HERE? It looked as though the goddamned thing would slice you in half if it hit you.

My first thought was to gun my little Jeep’s engine and make a quick getaway before that damn thing exploded 😂

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Hey girlfriend of the razor tongue, two things:

First, Wasn't at all my purpose to upstage you in my response about Musk. It's just that in your absence, last few days, I've been preaching civility, mostly because I got pissed at myself for some inflammatory ad hominem couple days ago, knowing I can do better (Do Bettah, Vin, Do Bettah). So my issue, Not yours (I Ioved "Nimrod").

Second, I missed you; and I know I'm an idiot.

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gypsy33's avatar

Vin you are a very long ways from being an idiot 😸

And I didn’t feel upstaged at all.

I can’t help myself, Vin; I no longer have any filter whatsoever. But I assure you that I’m the nicest bitch you’d ever meet! 😁

Sorry I was MIA btw; hubs was in the hospital but is home now and doing better.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Oh no. I have complete sympathy for anyone who has to endure even a few hours at a hospital. Glad he's better. I hate those places; I know too much and immediately get contentious if they don't tell me shit; not your model patient.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Gypsy33 must have pent up fear and hate for the environment, the American electric car industry and American workers that he/she seeks to see American industry fail. Anti-American sentiment harms gypsy33 and the entire nation. Some of us believe in democracy and elections.

Gypsy33 and a lot of tribalists here address losing the election with the same dignity and denial as tRump (and it's equally sickening). Wrong for tRump, wrong for us. If you can't accept elections better than tRump (an extremely low bar), why call attention to your failure?

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

You can identify a tribalist because they will love someone until their tribe leaders says to hate that person. They comply, without thinking.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Critical thinking doesn’t use childish invections like “Nimrod”. Perhaps you need recess. Lay your head on the desk and be quiet for the remainder of your punishment.

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Sam's avatar

Weird how Musk’s actions are only hurting the working class and not people who are rich like him.

Wake up and quit being a stooge.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Workers at Tesla might ask you the same thing. Why do you want an American car company and their workers to fail? I balance my budget; why can't my government? Only a stooge (or worse) would act in a way that American workers were harmed.

You know, the stooge who pushed, passed and signed job killing NAFTA. Bill also signed DADT attacking LGBT Americans. Bill also pushed, passed and signed DOMA in an attempt to deny my people marriage equality. Let's accept that Democrats were instrumental in outsourcing American jobs. I'd like to have more American jobs that help balance my governments debt. Wouldn't you?

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Cutting government waste and theft helps those of us who pay taxes. Perhaps calling me a “stooge” helps you cope, but it truly reflects the person who can’t use critical thinking skills and has no other tools than childish name calling.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Projecting your feelings of hate and fear don’t help. Musk has had the most successful businesses in history. I want that for America, don’t you?

Are you always so anti-American?

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Sam's avatar

lol…every business Musk has is funded by government funding.

And nothing he and Trump have done has helped the working class. Trillions lost from pensions and retirement funds and next up tax cuts for the parasites.

Nothing anti American about what I’m saying.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Sam is an all or nothing guy. PayPal wasn’t government. So Sam’s absolute declaration shows that he isn’t as smart as he wants people to think. Smart people avoid such absolutes. Tesla experienced success long before tax credits. Oops, more truth. Electric cars help the environment. American jobs are good for working people.

Repeat what you know, not what you are told to fear and hate. Dems loved him for a reason… too bad they reached out to Beyoncé instead.

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Landru's avatar

So, you think there is no agenda? If Mush was actually looking to maximize cuts in spending rather than go after Soc. Sec., Education, etc. Why didn't he look at the DOD? I see it's not on his agenda. Interesting isn't it. Mush not smart, wealthy via Daddy doesn't make you smart.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

What? You don't think Murican national security (cue patriotic music) requires 850 overseas military bases? Unpatriotic citizen here, Madame Robespierre.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Landru. You know I respect you. BUT I have a war on Acronyms. Some people are new to substack. They look at DOD but they don't know what you are saying.Get spelling out there for these MULTIPLE Acronyms.

DEpartment of Defence? Am I right?

What is really 'galling' to me is that the USA PRESUMES we know these Acronyms. They are here to confuse people.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Jenny, yes Department of Defense; oughta be DDoD. Extra D for Despicable

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JennyStokes's avatar

As Hilary Clinton once said: Deplorable!

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Susan T's avatar

I don't like acronymns either, but i have found that most can be found written out online if you do a search. DOD showed US department of Defense in the first result

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JennyStokes's avatar

Susan. There are a lot of extremely dumb people here who do not ask questions. Do you want to enlighten people?

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

And who do you know that can eat a turkey whole? You have to work that bird one bite at a time. Building multiple successful businesses, employing American workers and volunteering to streamline a bloated government seems reasonable, even desirable. Who would you prefer, Beyonce?

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Landru doesn’t even know his name, yet thinks he is more successful! We gotta get some education into America, if that is where you are from.

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N.N.Paul's avatar

A weird attack. Have you ever read this newsletter before? Or this article? Or even the comments connected to any of them? There are no Kamala supporters here.

And as for how smart Musk might be, I wonder how smart it is to let DJT set you as the fall guy for when the wheels come off the chaos cart. And tank one of your more significant assets in the course of it. (Looks at Tesla sales charts.)

But then our system is constructed so that if you start with sufficient assets, it is quite likely you can only fail up, so maybe that's what Musk is betting on. It is, after all, one of the nice perks of oligarchy.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Seems there are people who are working to sabotage the wheels of government on both sides. Extremists on both sides have now shown their stripes. Happy?

Too many people here are expressing a desire for failure - which is definitely anti-American. Change is painful; but, change is needed. Financing the national debt now costs as much as our military, for what? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Israel?

Debt is addressed two ways, cut spending or increase income. Instead of ad hominem hate, maybe we should ask OUR leadership what they have done to cut spending or increase income. We are the irresponsible party that gave the mantle to the Republicans... and now we don't like them doing what they said they would do. What did our top candidate say... "I can't think of anything..."

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

I did not vote for tRump, I vote for the people I support. I’m worried that your anti-American stance will catch fire and cause more anti-American activity like burning American-made cars.

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Cara MariAnna's avatar

This isn't about Democrats vs. Republicans. It's about ordinary U.S. citizens waking up to the lie that there are any meaningful differences between the two genocidal, ecocidal, war parties and overthrowing a murderous empire and saving ourselves in the process. Donald Trump and the assholes surrounding him now own the genocide that the Democrats started and you're covering for them?!!! Pull your head out of of whatever dark and damp place you put it. What an asshole!

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

I did not vote for tRump, I vote for who I support. Perhaps you are confused and are just so hateful that you are anti-American… wanting our nation to fail. THAT makes Cara MariAnna the “asshole”. Hate is not a family value.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Depends entirely on their politics!

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Killing children is never ethical. Check your pulse.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Blowback is a bitch. Free Gaza

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Qudsia's avatar

Saw a YouTube video of interview of a survivor of that incident... mind blowing how little the US matters to US officials when it comes to protecting isrl. They've truly sold their souls.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

It's truly a lesson in the utter depravity of politicians selling their souls.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

I have been telling this tail for years! These Zionist Nazis threatened these fellow sailors of mine AND THEIR FAMILIES! If any were to tell the tale of The Terrorist State of Israel MACHINE GUNNING THE WOUNDED US SAILORS IN THE WATER JUST LIKE THEIR NAZI U-BOAT COMMANDERS BEFORE THEM! THIS ACT OF WAR MAKES EVERY SINGLE ZIONIST NAZI POLITICIAN AN ENEMY AGENT OF THE TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL! EVERY FUCKING ONE WITH MAYBE ONE OR TWO EXCEPTIONS Thomas Massie and Rand Paul. LBJ was a Mossad agent! He stated he wanted that ship on the bottom he also ordered the fleet not to help the USS Liberty! This was an act of the worst TREASON.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

No sane person who reads the Conyers report I quoted could possibly disagree with you

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Diana van Eyk's avatar

It amazes me that the propaganda is so thick that some people still fall back on the "it's complicated between Israel and Gaza" BS that turns a blind eye to what is so obviously a genocide on the part of Israel.

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Michael's avatar

The punchline, the producers of those movies are raging Zionists

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

What will you bet me that someone defaces Gadot's star on the Walk of Fame? I'm hoping some brave soul will--and if they replace it, deface it again. "GENOCIDAIRE" painted across it would be appropriate.

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Rod Dawson's avatar

Israelis are Ubermenschen, Arabs are Untermenschen. Governments, media - anyone at all who supports Israel - absolutely agrees. Ubermenschen can do whatever they like to Untermenschen. Kill, steal land - why not? Thinking they shouldn't is simply silly, and old-fashioned, and harks back to the currently discredited idea that 'all lives matter'. Only Israeli lives matter. Israel and Western governments say so. Racism is okay again.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

I love some Jews. Israel is a man made Evil Cancer. Zionists will still try to control the narrative. The truth has been revealed. Question , I have not seen any flags of Palestine in the Bernie/AOC sheep herding show. Did Hollywood produce it?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I want to hug Max B. and Aaron M. just about any time I watch their forthrightness on the Grayzone

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gypsy33's avatar

I feel the same about Norm Finkelstein ❤️

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Sure, but don't leave Katie Halper, Glenn Greenwald, and Wallace Shawn off that huggable list. And I have left off the list several deserving of at least a high-five, if not a full on hug.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

And... we need to study Chase Hughes to learn HOW to help everyone see thru establishment and tribal misinformation. I still see people repeating Russiagate, WMD and the need for peace thru war, weapons and hate.

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gypsy33's avatar

Joy, let’s leave Scott Ritter (though not Jewish) off our list of Palestine supporters. I thought he was formerly one of their strongest advocates.

Then last night, I watched an interview with him on an obscure channel. Every single comment was on how Ritter did a 180 on Palestine. He sounded like he was on meth. From now on I’ll boycott any channel that hosts him, and tell the host WHY.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Me too. They are both so knowledgeable and quietly tell the truth. Well worth watching and paying for.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

As a number of Jews, including Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, have noted, "Zionism has hijacked the Jewish religion."

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Rabbi Dovid Weiss in NYC is infamous among Zionists for, "Zionism is antithetical to Judaism". Gotta love the man.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

truth teller

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Chuck

Sabby Sabs did a great program on this, about how Bernie and AOC 🙄 want to “reform” the Democratic Party, rather than the obvious solution: START A THIRD PARTY!

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have NO time for AOC or Bernie. They sold their souls.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

I support the "Power to the People Party".

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joed's avatar

This is the best Humanity can do

This is the pinnacle, the apex of human achievement.

Don't look for anything better.

And We allow this to go on. Allow.

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gypsy33's avatar

“How can anyone sane person believe them when they lie so blatantly”.

That’s it in a nutshell. No SANE person DOES believe the ZioPire or anyone affiliated with it.

One can argue that the whores for Israhell in Amerikkkan congress are just all about the benjamins, but this is insanity itself. What sane individual puts their pitiful “careers” above massive genocide?

Then there are the Evangelicals who believe that Palestinians must be wiped out for their own “salvation”! If this shit isn’t insanity, I don’t know what the fuck is. Who in their right mind would believe such nonsense?!

To say that Satanyahoo and his henchmen are insane would be the understatement of the century.

This is one big fucking Ziotastrophe.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Missed this one earlier. I'm convinced you should publish the anti-Zion dictionary. Cover art a faded image of Bibi, flaming nostrils -- and in gothic script arched above his dome "Satanyahu".

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gypsy33's avatar

OR…Vin…

Portray him as the vampire he is, with blood dripping from his fangs!

As you may or not know, I am an accomplished natural artist. I’d love to do such a portrait but it might suck the life out of my soul.

In ‘24 I did a portrait of my hero Rachel Corrie. It’s hanging in my dining room where I feel she is watching over me. I can’t tell you what it did for my soul to execute this portrait; I wish so badly that I could send a photo to her parents.

I’m now finishing a full -body execution of my beloved Morgan mare Angelina.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

No, I did not know, and you've jiggled my curiosity to say the least. Wish we could exchange some art -- visual one way, auditory back at you.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Vin

I cannot recall a time when my sister and I weren’t drawing. When I attended St. Matt’s sometimes I’d teach the art class 🙂

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I envy you -- in a positive way. Not a talent I was favored with. Instead, I've heard Verdi, Bach, Mozart and pop melodies playing every hour inmy brain since very early on. Eventually, the pop tunes came out onto the keyboard. My best bud's wife dubbed me the human jukebox, which was a bit over-the-top.

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gypsy33's avatar

I wish I had more musical talent, Vin. I used to play piano and guitar satisfactorily but it’s been a long time.

I was also a very good singer but 50 years of smoking has somewhat eroded my ability 😉

I grew up listening to classical music; I favor the Russians. Of course the good rock that the 60’s and 70’s produced. I now favor classic country: Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson, Trisha Yearwood, Reba and the like. I AM a cowgirl, after all 🙂

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Brucker's avatar

Oh my gosh, remember how even Joker, the homicidal maniac who kills people as a joke, doesn't blow up the hospital until it's been evacuated? The Joker is more moral than Israel.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

We cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza

They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.

https://buy.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg

You might find meaningful to watch the recent interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.

Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland:

https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

If you ever see an IOF (IDF) terrorist soldier, ask it how many kids it killed and tortured.

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A Parseeker's avatar

It's truly ironic that the clarity with which we see the unreal world in celluloid, when our personal desires and biases are not engaged, is not the clarity with which we see the real world. Our desires prevent us from seeing clearly when we really need to, when there is infinitely more at stake. Being able to look honestly our own desires and see through them is the real trick to seeing reality clearly, to being truly just.

"Stand firm for justice … even if it is against yourself." Quran 4:135

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Jim S's avatar

Thank You Caitlin

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Thank you Tim.

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Soeren Bak Soerensen's avatar

Exactly and why are we so alienated from our own feelings in reality. Perhaps widespread badly hidden racism is the answer.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Definitely racism.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

DAWN has urged the ICC prosecutor to investigate and prosecute former President Biden, State Secretary Blinken and Defense Secretary Austin for their personal roles in aiding and abetting Israeli war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in Gaza as part of his ongoing investigation into the situations in Palestine since 2014.

https://dawnmena.org/latest/

Let’s give them our support. Maybe they will expand their complaint to include this latest US administration. Let's make that all the leaders of the western nations supporting this genocide.

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MakeTheWorldSafeForDiversity's avatar

JFK wanted Dimona to never be built because he changed after the "Cuban Missile Crisis" and he wanted no new countries to have nuclear weapons.

From JFK and the Unspeakable by James Douglass "On May 6, 1963, President Kennedy issued National Security Action Memorandum Number 239, ordering his principal national security advisers to pursue both a nuclear test ban and a policy of general and complete disarmament. . . .

Marcus Raskin has commented on the meaning of this document: 'The President said, ‘Look we’ve really got to figure out how to get out of this arms race. This is just impossible. Give me a plan, the first stage at least of how we’re going to get out of the arms race.’

'This would be a 30% cut of arms. Then move from that stage to the next stage. He was into that. There’s no question about it.'

In the three paragraphs of NSAM 239, Kennedy uses the phrase 'general and complete disarmament' four times—twice in the opening paragraph, once each in the final two paragraphs. It is clearly the central focus of the order he is issuing.

The president’s accompanying, secondary emphasis is on 'a nuclear test ban treaty,' which he mentions three times. It is his secondary focus that shows just how strongly he is committed to to NSAM 239’s higher priority, general and complete disarmament. For we know that in the three months after NSAM 239 was issued, JFK concentrated his energy on negotiating a nuclear test ban agreement with Khrushchev, a goal he accomplished.`

General and complete disarmament is the more ambitious project in which he says he wants immediate steps to be taken: 'an urgent re-examination of the possibilities of new approaches to significant measures short of general and complete disarmament,' such as the 30 percent cut in arms mentioned by Raskin.

In his American University address the following month, he reiterates: 'Our primary long-range interest [in the Geneva talks] is general and complete disarmament—designed to take place by stages, permitting parallel political developments to build the new institutions of peace which would take the place of arms.'

The American University address and the test ban treaty opened the door to the long-range project that was necessary for the survival of humanity in the nuclear age. The test ban treaty was JFK’s critically important way to initiate with Khrushchev the end of the Cold War and their joint leadership in the United Nations for the redemptive process of general and complete disarmament.

In NSAM 239, Kennedy said why he was prepared to pursue such a radical program: 'the events of the last two years have increased my concerns for the consequences of an un-checked continuation of the arms race between ourselves and the Soviet bloc.'

Having been shaken and enlightened by the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy had the courage to recognize, as head of the most disastrously armed nation in history, that humanity could not survive the nuclear age unless the United States was willing to lead the world to general and complete disarmament."

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Spunty's avatar

And then they shot him...

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DMarlene's avatar

Is it possible that the many outraged "I stand with Ukraine" sympathizers don't stand with Palestine when they can easily see the horrific onslaught and the real time death march destruction of Gaza and the West Bank? Where are they? Or do they not stand with Palestine, much like they didn't stand with Palestine when Biden and Harris claimed they were one and the same?

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gypsy33's avatar

Oh but Dennis:

As our MSM pointed out in reference to the Ukrainians:

They’re so much like us! They have blonde hair and blue eyes!

They even watch Netflix!

Can’t make this fuckery up.

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SaHiB's avatar

What? Are you cheering murdering Russians in Donbass?

This makes no sense!

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DMarlene's avatar

I'm looking at BOTH as terrible and horrific. Yet the Democrats (likely you) are only seeing Ukraine as the slaughtered and clearly look the other way when it comes to the blatant destruction and genocide of Palestinians.

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SaHiB's avatar

You cannot elucidate thought, and are incredibly rude and presumptive.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I really think you should read about why the Russians are not trying to kill too many civilians and then read about how the Ukranians don't give a shit about Russian civilians.

Then take a breath and read about the Maidan coup!

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

We have an establishment news industry pushing hate for Russia and Palestinians. We have independent media telling the truth. Network news organizations are owned and operated for both profit and control... not the truth, nor for humanity. Once you've seen the psyops mechanisms you can't forget them. Watch Chase Hughes on YouTube (Google hasn't caught on and censored/defunded/banned or silenced him yet) like they abhor most independent, critical thinkers.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

Good on you Jenny!

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JennyStokes's avatar

READ and learn. Pick up a book if you can read?

The reason why the Russians are succeeding in this war is because: The people who are dealing with the Russians have NO knowledge of History.

Look at Mr. (Tattoo man). How did he become a main dealer with Russia?

He knows nothing of History.

I can guarantee there will be NO peace with Russia.

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SaHiB's avatar

Enough condescension! Why don't you learn to read, and to parse comprehensibly?

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