This war was fomented by neocons like Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan (her husband) after the same ones supported a coup in Ukraine. There were Pentagon biolabs in Ukraine. This didn't happen in a vacuum.
It is Critical to remember The 1896 Basel Program, The 1916 Sykes–Picot Agreement, the 1917 The Balfour Declaration, the 1948 Redline Agreement, the deep state’s 1947 Truman doctrine, the 1948 Marshall Plan, the 1996 ‘clean break; strategy for securing the realm’ policy, the 1997 PNAC project for a new american century ‘rebuilding america's defenses’, the 2001 ‘full spectrum domination doctrine’, the 2009 "which path to persia" policy documents. The 1983 MILNET (fully Military Network), the 2002 NORTHCOM command (continuity of Government group) and the new GOLDEN DOME projects!!
The point is that the West has chosen Russia as its designated enemy, the ones who can do no right, while Israel and other western pets can do no wrong.
"For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law!" General Óscar Benavides
Russia has been the "Go to" boogeyman for the West and more particularly the USA for 100 + years. It seems that China has reached a similar status in the last 25 years. The geopolitically and historically ignorant "leaders" in DC depend on the so called " electorate's" propaganda fueled fear of "Russia, Russia, Russia" to drive their nefarious domestic and international political agendas.
I’d use Russia just because of how Russia is seen as the bad guy in the war between them and Ukraine when it was Ukraine that was killing Russians before they intervened.
I'm Muslim, and I completely understand Caitlin's analogy. I think you misunderstand her point and her intended audience. She assumes that most people in the Western world are (unjustified) haters of Muslims and Russians, and they feel that Jews are perpetually innocent and blameless. Now do you understand the hypothetical scenario she was trying to create?
Your annoyance with the use of Russia as ail things evil is justified.. I agree. However
I think we all know that Feral was not inferring as you have suggested.
But as you would be aware, this has changed recently and China has taken on that role in the WESTERN MEDIA. That is, the Trump directed media. But.....................
Nato is still in there pitching for a war to justify their expenditure on military re-arming and they need to have a European country as their target. The history of Russia in WWII is well known by all, along with the sacrifices they made. They had their big parade last week to mark the occasion. No Western leaders were there.
There's the problem.
I think it is a mistake for anyone to confuse the recent elected European / Western governments with the people who live in Western countries.
I should have also said that outside of Israel and the USA, the most dangerous governments are the UK and the newly elected Germans. They are seriously angling for some form of military action. They are extreme.
Pretend this were true. Pretend that this were relevant to the point. Whatever bad things the Soviets did, the only reason that Polish people are alive in Poland today is because of the Red Army.
Lets not cloud the Russophobics with any pesky "historic facts". Russians not only saved Poland, the Russian People saved EU as a whole (and likely the entire planet) from decades of NAZI tyranny. USSR ≠ Russian People.
Side note: While there is no evidence offered to support the claim of "Millions" of Poles slaughtered by the USSR, there are mountains of evidence that prove that the NAZIS did to the Poles exactly what is being laid at the feet of the Russian people.
The Nazi regime was ready, willing and able to undertake industrial scale genocide, had the mechanism in place and had expressed its intent to do to Poles what it already had done to some 90% of the Jews of europe, for one.
Soviet Union (or Russia) was never a Communist government (though Stalin and the rest of the world called it so). It was State Capitalism (with a few socialist ideas mixed in). This "Soviet Union/Russia is communist" is similar to calling the U.S. "the greatest Democracy on earth" and protector of human rights and freedoms.
Absolutely. Unfortunately the former Soviet regime is what they refer to as communist. Either or, the Russia today is not the same. In fact they may be the last sane country in the world at this point.
Let's not erase the existence of Palestinian Christians. The whole of the Palestinian people are the target.
We call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
Yes, the original wording called on Pope Francis to go to Gaza. Now, I have added that to the amended one to Pope Leo. Thanks for reminding me to do that.
I tried. The Response box does not allow anyone to place in a "zipcode" from another country (in Britain we say Postcode) making the outside world unable to request.
Yeah, Roots Actions is based in the US and is very narrow-minded. I've had the same problem with trying to respond to other petitions online from other countries. You'd think they'd make everything accessible to all!
I am referring to your request to petition Pope Leo to visit Gaza and see for himself. Why may only Americans living in the USA do that according to the request box supplied on Roots Action site ?
World leaders can stop this genocide in less than 24 hours. Solution : Take all Russian sanctions and apply them to isra-hell. The genocide will stop in less than 60 minutes.
One cannot watch an interview with any Israeli official without a canned robotic answer of denial. I must conclude that, within these robot-heads, there are physical brain alterations measurable in say PET scans — whether fabulous biological brainwashing or implanted devices, I do not know. Opinions vary.
Either way, some of the most racist shit I’ve ever heard.
Fair warning reminder, Jenny. Thanks. Like we don't have enough here already, so our overlords need to import some extra. Gotta love the American psyche -- it proves what it really is on a regular basis.
Horrible stuff. And that Zionist rag, the NY Times wants to call Miss Rachel anti Semitic for her sympathy for Palestinian children as they are turned to bloody meat and dust. The rage I feel at Zionist scum is so intense, it makes me physically ill.
In the UK the general population have been conditioned by "dumbed down" media speak in every medium for the last two decades. The levels of acceptable islamophobia needed to sustain the illegal attack and occupation of Iraq and Afganistan, as well as to justify the levelling of Libya has become so normalised that if you listen to GB news, you could be mistaken in thinking that London is in danger of being ruled by Syria law, that areas of the UK are police no-go zones and that all assylum seekers are "all males of fighting age" insinuating the presence of a "standing army" to be used in the coming "civil war". The average working class people are completely unaware of the politically charged psychological weapons that they interact most of their days as they use social media to plan their kids football club's matches or interact with their families and communities. Unfortunatly, they are so far removed from the objective reality in the UK, let alone the objective reality of world event that it is genuinely horrifying. Even my own labour MP is living in an alternate reality. We live in a post truth world.
Not only the UK, this applies to the USA to even a greater extent. MR. Putin nailed it in 2022 with this statement:
"US politicians, political scientists and journalists write and say that a veritable “empire of lies” has been created inside the United States in recent years. It is hard to disagree with this – it is really so. But one should not be modest about it: the United States is still a great country and a system-forming power. All its satellites not only humbly and obediently say yes to and parrot it at the slightest pretext but also imitate its behavior and enthusiastically accept the rules it is offering them. Therefore, one can say with good reason and confidence that the whole so-called Western bloc formed by the United States in its own image and likeness is, in its entirety, the very same “empire of lies.”"
No empathy, no imagination, are what the Empire relies on and expects in its subjects. So long as it's Other people getting the short end of the stick, getting nothing, or getting bombed.
I ask Americans how they would feel if one day their city was bombed by a country that America had destroyed. Or was just being bombed because there were resources another country wanted. I get met with blank looks because so many people don’t know what America has been doing to other countries for many decades.
Americans are some of the most ignorant people on the planet.
True. That’s why we are seeing the western countries kissing up to Jolani who just a few months ago had a $10 million bounty on his head for being the leader of Al Qaeda. Trump said that he’s a swell good looking guy.
sociopathic society. Quite simple. Decades of education to mass murder. We live in a world of sociopathic-ally engineered people. People without the insight to see what they actually support.
Never forget. And if there is one shining star, it is that what goes around comes around. These fools will be treated exactly the same, in one way or another, with the in process globalist tyranny. The the sociopathic-ally engineered people wont care about them either.
Our species is a failed species;. That's the take away from Gaza. We allow members of our society, to murder and genocide on children. While we ignore the just laws that prohibit that.
And all because someone wants someone else's real estate. While that desperate religious fools just want Jesus to come back. Because the globalist world just sucks.
Pretend that Russian people were doing the bombing. Think we'd be hearing the chorus of cringey excuses?
This war was fomented by neocons like Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan (her husband) after the same ones supported a coup in Ukraine. There were Pentagon biolabs in Ukraine. This didn't happen in a vacuum.
Yes, and your point?
Where is your mention of Jews?
It is Critical to remember The 1896 Basel Program, The 1916 Sykes–Picot Agreement, the 1917 The Balfour Declaration, the 1948 Redline Agreement, the deep state’s 1947 Truman doctrine, the 1948 Marshall Plan, the 1996 ‘clean break; strategy for securing the realm’ policy, the 1997 PNAC project for a new american century ‘rebuilding america's defenses’, the 2001 ‘full spectrum domination doctrine’, the 2009 "which path to persia" policy documents. The 1983 MILNET (fully Military Network), the 2002 NORTHCOM command (continuity of Government group) and the new GOLDEN DOME projects!!
Why do you use RUSSIA as an example??
Russia.....THEE ONLY actual CHRISTIAN Nation on this planet, that is filled with ACTUAL HUMANS......and you use them as an example of NAZISM?
RUSSIA.....who lost MILLIONS of people, defeating the NAZIS in WW II......and you want to use RUSSIA as your example??
I'm SO sick of the Russophobia!
I think you are missing my point.
Sometimes there is no point in trying to explain your point to others.
You'd think I'd learn.
Nope! I do it too. I guess we're just too old and stubborn to quit trying.
No; I comprehend the POINT.
MY QUESTION IS.......WHY is RUSSIA being used as an (EVIL) example??
YOU missed MY point.
I'm Pro Palestine; HAVE BEEN.....for many, MANY years.
WHY does Russia get used for 'all things EVIL'?
(when they are the OPPOSITE of evil!)
The point is that the West has chosen Russia as its designated enemy, the ones who can do no right, while Israel and other western pets can do no wrong.
"For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law!" General Óscar Benavides
Russia has been the "Go to" boogeyman for the West and more particularly the USA for 100 + years. It seems that China has reached a similar status in the last 25 years. The geopolitically and historically ignorant "leaders" in DC depend on the so called " electorate's" propaganda fueled fear of "Russia, Russia, Russia" to drive their nefarious domestic and international political agendas.
This idea must be rocket science.
I’d use Russia just because of how Russia is seen as the bad guy in the war between them and Ukraine when it was Ukraine that was killing Russians before they intervened.
Correct; the Satanic 'West' HATE Russia.
So, why do YOU (or anyone else) have to GO ALONG with that narrative, instead of BREAKING that FALSE narrative?
Chose a REAL 'enemy'.
And as far as I can see......there is only ONE.
The Enemy of ALL of the HUMAN Race; and that ENEMY is......
The Khazarian State (aka 'Israel')!
I refuse to push false narratives that CRIMINAL govts push.
I COUNTER them.
GOD BLESS RUSSIA!
It might be the Zionist state but USA is the enemy of the world!
Hi Dawnie
Feral is far from Russophobic. He merely used Russia as an example because our Fearless Leaders are Russophobes.
Feral’s one smart kitty.
I'm Muslim, and I completely understand Caitlin's analogy. I think you misunderstand her point and her intended audience. She assumes that most people in the Western world are (unjustified) haters of Muslims and Russians, and they feel that Jews are perpetually innocent and blameless. Now do you understand the hypothetical scenario she was trying to create?
Theocracy is not actually a recommendation. I'm an atheist. And yet I still support Russia because they are good at getting rid of Nazis.
DawnieR
Your annoyance with the use of Russia as ail things evil is justified.. I agree. However
I think we all know that Feral was not inferring as you have suggested.
But as you would be aware, this has changed recently and China has taken on that role in the WESTERN MEDIA. That is, the Trump directed media. But.....................
Nato is still in there pitching for a war to justify their expenditure on military re-arming and they need to have a European country as their target. The history of Russia in WWII is well known by all, along with the sacrifices they made. They had their big parade last week to mark the occasion. No Western leaders were there.
There's the problem.
I think it is a mistake for anyone to confuse the recent elected European / Western governments with the people who live in Western countries.
Miles apart in my opinion.
I should have also said that outside of Israel and the USA, the most dangerous governments are the UK and the newly elected Germans. They are seriously angling for some form of military action. They are extreme.
I think you missed the point. The Russians are the good guys in her story.
Russia also murdered millions of Poles, FYI
The US murdered millions of Native Americans, FYI.
Pretend this were true. Pretend that this were relevant to the point. Whatever bad things the Soviets did, the only reason that Polish people are alive in Poland today is because of the Red Army.
Lets not cloud the Russophobics with any pesky "historic facts". Russians not only saved Poland, the Russian People saved EU as a whole (and likely the entire planet) from decades of NAZI tyranny. USSR ≠ Russian People.
Side note: While there is no evidence offered to support the claim of "Millions" of Poles slaughtered by the USSR, there are mountains of evidence that prove that the NAZIS did to the Poles exactly what is being laid at the feet of the Russian people.
Out of curiosity, could you share your basis for that claim?
The Nazi regime was ready, willing and able to undertake industrial scale genocide, had the mechanism in place and had expressed its intent to do to Poles what it already had done to some 90% of the Jews of europe, for one.
You have it all backwards. Poles were sent to the camps before Jews were, Hitler having announced his plans to commit genocide on the Poles before the war began: https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/08/29/secret-hitler-speech-outlining-planned-ww2-genocide-of-poles-genuine-say-german-historian/
You mean the old communist government of Russia murdered millions. That government no longer exists and you are now comparing apples to oranges.
Soviet Union (or Russia) was never a Communist government (though Stalin and the rest of the world called it so). It was State Capitalism (with a few socialist ideas mixed in). This "Soviet Union/Russia is communist" is similar to calling the U.S. "the greatest Democracy on earth" and protector of human rights and freedoms.
chatgpt says stalin did not call the soviet union a communist country. (it seems he understood theory).
If you rely on LLMs for your information (and thinking/synthesis), you’ve already lost…
Absolutely. Unfortunately the former Soviet regime is what they refer to as communist. Either or, the Russia today is not the same. In fact they may be the last sane country in the world at this point.
Sure. I’m sure that you can provide a link for your accusation?
Absolutely not!
Thank you Caitlin. You've explained our sick western racism to perfection. It's GOT TO STOP.
Let's not erase the existence of Palestinian Christians. The whole of the Palestinian people are the target.
We call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq
Please sign the petition and share widely.
Pope Leo should visit Gaza immediately to contrast with Trump's latest visit to the middle east.
The IDF would probably assassinate him and blame the Gazans.
Yes, the original wording called on Pope Francis to go to Gaza. Now, I have added that to the amended one to Pope Leo. Thanks for reminding me to do that.
Yes--send Pope Leo a message here: https://rootsaction.org/ask-pope-leo-xiv-to-visit-gaza
I tried. The Response box does not allow anyone to place in a "zipcode" from another country (in Britain we say Postcode) making the outside world unable to request.
Isn't that a wee bit deferential?
Yeah, Roots Actions is based in the US and is very narrow-minded. I've had the same problem with trying to respond to other petitions online from other countries. You'd think they'd make everything accessible to all!
I am referring to your request to petition Pope Leo to visit Gaza and see for himself. Why may only Americans living in the USA do that according to the request box supplied on Roots Action site ?
Where is your mention of Jews?
I didn't vote for either names of the Uniparty. Maybe I'm not the person who needs this?
World leaders can stop this genocide in less than 24 hours. Solution : Take all Russian sanctions and apply them to isra-hell. The genocide will stop in less than 60 minutes.
🎯 always on point. Thank you, Caitlin.
One cannot watch an interview with any Israeli official without a canned robotic answer of denial. I must conclude that, within these robot-heads, there are physical brain alterations measurable in say PET scans — whether fabulous biological brainwashing or implanted devices, I do not know. Opinions vary.
Either way, some of the most racist shit I’ve ever heard.
We’ll never rest again
Until every Nazi dies.
They're badly infected with a virulent form of chosenpeopleism virus.
Probably reverse engineered by Zionist brainiacs at Hebrew U. in Tel Aviv. They do lots of molecular biology and virology there.
It's a plague!
Hi Vin. Then you better check out where these Nazi white S. Africans are living now in the USA?
Fair warning reminder, Jenny. Thanks. Like we don't have enough here already, so our overlords need to import some extra. Gotta love the American psyche -- it proves what it really is on a regular basis.
Horrible stuff. And that Zionist rag, the NY Times wants to call Miss Rachel anti Semitic for her sympathy for Palestinian children as they are turned to bloody meat and dust. The rage I feel at Zionist scum is so intense, it makes me physically ill.
If the bombed were anything but white you’d hear a pin drop. Sudan, Burma, Xinjiang. Even the Bosnians weren’t white enough. Racism has no logic.
Racism is preferential supremacism.
What color was Jesus of Nazareth?
Nobody knows. But he was Palestinian, so you decide. Jesus wasn't from Sweden.
PLEASE stop arming ISRAEL!
In the UK the general population have been conditioned by "dumbed down" media speak in every medium for the last two decades. The levels of acceptable islamophobia needed to sustain the illegal attack and occupation of Iraq and Afganistan, as well as to justify the levelling of Libya has become so normalised that if you listen to GB news, you could be mistaken in thinking that London is in danger of being ruled by Syria law, that areas of the UK are police no-go zones and that all assylum seekers are "all males of fighting age" insinuating the presence of a "standing army" to be used in the coming "civil war". The average working class people are completely unaware of the politically charged psychological weapons that they interact most of their days as they use social media to plan their kids football club's matches or interact with their families and communities. Unfortunatly, they are so far removed from the objective reality in the UK, let alone the objective reality of world event that it is genuinely horrifying. Even my own labour MP is living in an alternate reality. We live in a post truth world.
Not only the UK, this applies to the USA to even a greater extent. MR. Putin nailed it in 2022 with this statement:
"US politicians, political scientists and journalists write and say that a veritable “empire of lies” has been created inside the United States in recent years. It is hard to disagree with this – it is really so. But one should not be modest about it: the United States is still a great country and a system-forming power. All its satellites not only humbly and obediently say yes to and parrot it at the slightest pretext but also imitate its behavior and enthusiastically accept the rules it is offering them. Therefore, one can say with good reason and confidence that the whole so-called Western bloc formed by the United States in its own image and likeness is, in its entirety, the very same “empire of lies.”"
Thank You Caitlin
No empathy, no imagination, are what the Empire relies on and expects in its subjects. So long as it's Other people getting the short end of the stick, getting nothing, or getting bombed.
I ask Americans how they would feel if one day their city was bombed by a country that America had destroyed. Or was just being bombed because there were resources another country wanted. I get met with blank looks because so many people don’t know what America has been doing to other countries for many decades.
Americans are some of the most ignorant people on the planet.
The West (& all its tentacles eg thecapertheid state) always justifies its violence by saying "it's us doing it" ergo it must be necessary.
The "others" need saved & saviours are white in the United States of Delusional Supremacy.
This is the licence Israel has to slaughter & destroy Palestinians. A colonial impunity.
Sooner Western hegemony is made extinct the better.
FREE PALESTINE
The world is run by sociopathic leaders that may be less than human or non-human.
True. That’s why we are seeing the western countries kissing up to Jolani who just a few months ago had a $10 million bounty on his head for being the leader of Al Qaeda. Trump said that he’s a swell good looking guy.
Vampires, Vera.
Swapping brown people with white is even more relevant.
sociopathic society. Quite simple. Decades of education to mass murder. We live in a world of sociopathic-ally engineered people. People without the insight to see what they actually support.
Never forget. And if there is one shining star, it is that what goes around comes around. These fools will be treated exactly the same, in one way or another, with the in process globalist tyranny. The the sociopathic-ally engineered people wont care about them either.
Our species is a failed species;. That's the take away from Gaza. We allow members of our society, to murder and genocide on children. While we ignore the just laws that prohibit that.
And all because someone wants someone else's real estate. While that desperate religious fools just want Jesus to come back. Because the globalist world just sucks.