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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I just read in another MSM rag (The Guardian) that NASA just slammed a rocket into some asteroid to test the potential for deflecting the path of threats to earth from rogue heavenly bodies. It was accompanied by celebratory language by a spokesperson who opined that “all earthlings should sleep better.” This mentality — that we’re saved by exploding hi-tech crap — is exactly why we find ourselves stewing in this rubbish soup. We are such bloody babies, unable to cope with the reality that trying to protect ourselves from a low-probability event, while unable to do anything about the high-probability demise of the biosphere is the height of diversion denial. As is the idea that a nuclear war, any war for that matter, is "winnable."

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John Pretty's avatar

I'm quite happy to "lose" war if it saves more lives.

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Lisa Savage's avatar

If you think NASA isn't developing technology intended for use by the military, i.e. that this was about asteroids, you may want to examine that belief.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Just what — from my comment — would lead you to think I believe any nonsense about federal agency altruism? I don't trust ANY alphabet agency's motives --- from NIH through FDA, CDC and out to NASA et al. It's all about profiting from human misery.

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Lisa Savage's avatar

Did not mean you, personally.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Biden’s foreign policy can be summarized in one word: empire.

The same can be said for the NYT. The only question is how to protect and expand said empire.

As to how not escalating the empire's wars of aggression imperils America, as if Iran has readied its vast fleet of war canoes, ready to paddle out of the Straits of Hormuz and make landing on the Manhattan docks at the first sign of weakness, remains unsaid.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

If you look at what's left in the world for these criminals to go to a new war with the list seems to be 3 long maybe 4? They have all these trillions (of our) dollars to spend and those damned Christmas toys (nukes) have not been played with for oh so long!

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Christopher Brunet's avatar

yep, it definitely feels like we are sleepwalking into WW3

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SomeDude's avatar

I feel like we're being dragged kicking and screaming that direction, while the well-programmed sheeple are following in a docile fashion chewing their GMO and herbicide coated cud.

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PL's avatar

Not sleepwalking, these insane neocons want endless war.

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John Pretty's avatar

They're not sleepwalking.

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PL's avatar

Insane neocons, delusional, power hungry neocons have no clue what might happen if they succeed in provoking a hot war with Russia and/or China.

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JackSirius's avatar

Or maybe they know exactly what will happen. This is a controlled demolition of existing global systems, which is Phase 1 of the Great Reset.

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John Mann's avatar

Maybe someone sent them a powerful delusion so that they would believe their lies.

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Kevin's avatar

Not a conservative amongst any of them. Chicken hawks.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

The NYT has never seen a war it didn't initially like in my lifetime. They really should change their name to the Empire Times.

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Daren Sweeney's avatar

The kids of the NYT's editorial board should be forced to live in Kharkiv for a month.

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Fraoch's avatar

Or hoo aboot Gaza?

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Chyna Faerie's avatar

That too!!

Even better actually!!

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Eddie's avatar

And after that one month in Palestine, then one month in Libya, then one month of Haiti. I would include the entire population of the main stream media, without any access to the internet.

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Chyna Faerie's avatar

Perfect.

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bill wolfe's avatar

After all, NY is "The Empire State"!

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Chyna Faerie's avatar

Maybe — “Empire of Liars and Thieves Times” would capture the essence of the true nature of america?

However, I would be willing to settle for Empire Times. Lol

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John Pretty's avatar

I thought that was what it was called anyway.

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papasha408's avatar

Biden doesn't have a foreign policy. Winkin, Blinken and Nod run America's foreign policy along with other dual-citizen neocon and neoliberal lunatics who just can't say 'no,' to a war, any war.

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John Pretty's avatar

*OT* on Italy and "fascism". The contrasting views of three prominent writers. (I'm with Glenn and Michael on this one.)

"The reason we don’t hear 24/7 media/political alarm about this is that both Italy’s neofascists and Sweden’s neo-Nazi parties (& Spains’s neofascist Vox) are pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia. Our ruling classes have their priorities, stopping all fascism isn’t one of them." (Mark Ames)

"Italy: holds democratic election, Pundits: this is a frightening blow to democracy." (Michael Tracy)

"It's always been the case, and still very much is, that when Western neoliberals and the US Security State herald the importance of "democracy," what they mean is: "we get the rulers we want." "Fascism" means: they elected someone we dislike, so you must stay united behind us." (Glenn Greenwald)

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tom dun's avatar

When and it will be when American neocons overestimate and overstretch their capabilities in a conventional war with China and Russia, rather than admit defeat they will go directly to the nuclear option. There is no other path. Medvedev has actually stated that they reserve the right to go nuclear even if another power attacks Russia with conventional weapons. This trajectory is set. Only a matter of time I'm sad to say. Plus the sabotage of both nord stream pipelines (and the deliberate empoverishment of Europe) most likely by the "west" shows that winning at all costs seems to be the goal.

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russian_bot's avatar

"Medvedev has actually stated that they reserve the right to go nuclear even if another power attacks Russia with conventional weapons" - this has been an official doctrine for a few years now. Published and well known by the West.

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Jeff Syrop's avatar

How can journalists with any conscience at all work for the NY Times?! The article you link to detailing the consistent cheerleading of NYT for Amerika's wars throughout my lifetime is great proof of its complicity in millions of deaths, and your article today is strong and perfect.

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Chyna Faerie's avatar

Because no journalist with any conscience can or will be hired by a newspaper run by psychopaths?

Because psychopaths themselves have no conscience.

No brainer?

Lol

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

I thoroughly enjoy reading Caitlin's writings and the comment section and appreciate how people respectfully disagree and all the information people contribute, though I do not click on links. I do look up some topics and definitions. Thank you all!

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John Pretty's avatar

I was recently disappointed to learn that Dick Cheney is still alive. I thought he had passed on to the horny guy in the red suit like his friends John McCain and Donald Rumsfeld.

And then I realised that his soul departed from his body many years ago. Any thoughs we might have of lingering humanity in his ageing corpse is an illusion.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

Are you fucking kidding me!? "Cautious"! This is fucking insanity! How much crazier can these people get!? Promote Nuclear Armageddon just like it is a pumpkin pie! We can't get rid of this filth fast enough!

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Alexander's avatar

A good place to start would be getting rid of the "institutes of Higher learning (i.e. indoctrination) like the Ivy League universities from which most of the blood thirsty sociopaths that plague the world graduate.

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Chyna Faerie's avatar

Absolutely.

John Carter’s Substack called Postcards from Barsoom goes into detail about how to do exactly that.

Basically by setting up an alternative form of higher learning.

Which you might find interesting if you feel inclined.

Blessings 🌈

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T. Paine's avatar

Insanity is running rampant in our bureaucratic global system cheered on by a delusional President who’s out to crush anyone who dares signal any disagreement. I disagree starting a war with Russia is sane, I disagree provoking China over Taiwan is sane, I disagree telling everyone they belong to a racial grouping and should blame those successful from other groups for their lack of it, I disagree anything scientific can ever be considered settled like Covid or climate change, I disagree that dangerous criminals are victims, I disagree men have a womb. More human beings need to disagree quickly or Joe is going to destroy the world in order to save it.

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John Pretty's avatar

Biden is worse than delusional. He's demented.

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jamenta's avatar

Seriously. If anyone wants to know just how corrupt and how much the United States is in decline - just watch Joe Biden for a few minutes.

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John Pretty's avatar

lol, do I have to?

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jamenta's avatar

Seems you protest too much as if Joe Biden himself is responsible for all the ills of the world. The guy can barely walk himself off a stage after reading from a teleprompter. I doubt very much he's in charge of much of anything, other than his pajama drawer.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Biden's handlers tell him that he can have pudding for dessert instead of fruit cup and he does whatever they tell him to.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

Exactly!

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John Pretty's avatar

I don't think Biden is even in charge of that.

He still walks unaided.

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Kevin's avatar

His doppelganger can do all of the things Joe cant.

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T. Paine's avatar

Are you discounting his positions influence? Spot on about his pajamas but i only said cheered on not responsible. His bench is deep and wide and they are using him to warm the bench.

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asher2789's avatar

Human caused climate change is real and currently in motion. One would have to bury their head in the sand to ignore it at this point.

Trans men have wombs, as they are the female sex.

“Dangerous criminals” aka people wrapped up in the drug trade are victims of a racist and classist society and the defunding of infrastructure in minority neighborhoods for decades. Let’s not forget that the CIA ran cocaine to fund their regime change adventures in South America while simultaneously destroying minority neighborhoods with the crack epidemic.

You need to open up a fucking history book instead of regurgitating right wing propaganda.

The only thing we seem to agree with is being against endless war.

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John Pretty's avatar

Is your first sentence sarcasm? If so, I agree.

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asher2789's avatar

No. Eyeroll. Spare me the ignorant response.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Hmm... You'd think the NYT would be more careful with their propagandists and their "hidden connections." AEI and Taiwan seem pretty obvious. Maybe they figure the public is so beaten over the head by propaganda that we're too dizzy to make out who's pushing what agenda and for whom.

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Daren Sweeney's avatar

I attended grad school with Ms. shake at the U of MD in the 1980s. She was a war-mongering sociopath at the age of 22, and quickly rewarded professionally for such views. Her opportunity to get an op-ed in the NYT is both depressing and predictable.

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Fran's avatar

I wonder if Trump, certainly not perfect in any number of his policies, will ever get credit for not pushing us into another war during his presidency? I always thought the Russia-gate hoax, perpetrated by the democrats and FBI, and God knows who else, was not only to remove Trump from office, an elected president, but to further escalate tensions with Russia which they were hoping to do during "Clinton's rein, which started under Obama in his support for the neo-nazi coup in 2014 which installed a pro western regime. Nuland was with him then, as she is now with Biden. During his presidency and after a televised meeting Thump spoke to the press on camera after all the others participating in the meeting had gone. He talked about our stupid wars that kill millions and cost millions. No wonder the neocons became so loyal to the democrats during his time in office. As Chomsky said during Biden's escalation of tensions with Russia that he thought Trump was the only statesmen who could prevent a war with Russia. As far as the pro-war press goes, well everyone jumped on their anti-Trump bandwagon during his presidency, including many on the left, if not most and gave their total support to the democrats. Now i suppose they have some regrets, but often you wouldn't know it. Now Biden's State Department is filled with those neocons that sent us into our many middle eastern wars.

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Sam Allon🔸's avatar

Trump was quite close to provoking Iran into a war with the US in January 2020.

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Kevin's avatar

There are certainly a couple of ways to look

at this. Was preventing a Mullah from gaining access to nuke, bad or good. Depends on a person's point of view.

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Sam Allon🔸's avatar

Did blowing Soleimani to bits do anything to slow down Iran's nuclear program?

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Kevin's avatar

Was he involved with the nuclear program? Iran indicated publicly it's intentions. They have displayed time and again that they are also not about peace. There is that.

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Sam Allon🔸's avatar

As far as I can tell, Soleimani was completely uninvolved with Iran's nuclear program. He was a regional warlord who posed virtually no threat to the US. A bad person, sure. But killing him would not be worth causing a major war.

Also... are we about peace? I am an American.

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