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JennyStokes's avatar

Many people don't care until it happens to them............which of course it will one day!

NO more. NO more. Support Palestine. NOW

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Pepper Jackson's avatar

I've been sending support to anera.org every month for over a year. I know it's hard for them now, but they have done a good job getting food and other supplies into Gaza since the beginning of the conflict. Please check them out and support them if you can.

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Davina's avatar

I, too, have a monthly payment in support of getting food and aid to our suffering friends in Gaza. This blockade is worrying, the food and aid is there but not allowed in by a regime that should not exist.

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Richard Leighton's avatar

I’m with you but take time to articulate what you want to say. Enough with the CAPs.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Nothing wrong with CAP's. We are talking about a genocide and you worry about CAP's!

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CK's avatar

I like the EMPHASIS that the author believes to be appropriate!

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

STOP GENOCIDE now.

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#FreePalestine's avatar

YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT CAPS, WTF! HOPE THIS IS ENOUGH CAPS FOR YOU, YOU FOOL!

GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE, BURNING CHILDREN, TORTURE, MURDER, RAPE, DESTRUCTION OF GAZA AND OCCUPIED WEST BANK...MUCH MORE TO BE TALKING ABOUT AND STANDING UP FOR THAN CAPITAL LETTERS...YOU FOOL!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

❤️ Thank you! There are NOT ENOUGH CAPS in this world to come even remotely close to expressing the PURE EVIL that is Israel and Zionism (and everything that flows from it).

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Elizabeth H.McGauley Sarfaty's avatar

Most of what an individual says relates first to him/her self- beware of calling others any disparaging names! You lose credibility for yourself perhaps. Your proper outrage is a consideration- so just a reminder! Love/peace, Elizabeth

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#FreePalestine's avatar

I suggest you reach out to the initial CAPS guy, the two of you would make good friends, and stop wasting many people's time. No one cares for your passive / aggressive, lecture type persona.

Just a FYI I won't read any reply.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

Take your tone-policing and fuck off. Then fuck off some more. Keep fucking off until you reach a gate with a sign on it that reads "No fucking off past here". Climb over the gate, dream the impossible dream, and keep fucking off forever.

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Maggie JK's avatar

How does a capitalized NO hurt you?

Tone policing is a tool of the oppressor.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

True. And far too often, it follows stealth provocation. The world is waking up to it.

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

Distraction technique, like changing the conversation from police brutality to racism. A favorite strategy of those on the side of oppression.

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Lowell Googins's avatar

Enough with pathetic pettiness! She is passionately writing about a textbook genocide and your response is too many caps. Yes. I am trying to shame you. No apologies.

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Penelope Prill's avatar

CAPS chafe you? Oh, dear.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

CEASEFIRE NOW.

FREE PALESTINE.

FUCK ISRAEL.

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Elizabeth H.McGauley Sarfaty's avatar

Learning to love the enemy (not their behaviors!) is a hard thing to do. We must pay attention to the enemy within our own self - lest, like the extreme Zionists,

we become the very evil we deplore! Love/peace, Elizabeth

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gypsy33's avatar

Elizabeth, where the fuck have “love and peace” gotten the Palestinians?

I fucking HATE IsraHell and I fucking HATE Ziopaths. Take your hippie bullshit elsewhere!

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

Stick your tone-policing. Children are being burnt to death by depraved sadistic psychopaths, and you are reproaching me for not loving the depraved sadistic psychopaths.

You are using the distraction technique referred to by Marci Sudlow, above. As Marci says, it is a strategy of those on the side of oppression.

CEASEFIRE NOW.

FREE PALESTINE.

FUCK ISRAEL.

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gypsy33's avatar

Right on Rosalind! 💪

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Spiritual insight: The US slaughtered women and children on a vast scale in Iraq and Afghanistan. Israel has the best possible spiritual model for its crimes: the Yankee devil. One need look no farther for the source of this madness.

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

It's not a war, it's an invasion, not for security reasons, it's a colonisation to enlarge an Apartheid state, created on stolen land and livings.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

And the US invasion of those countries was part and parcel of facilitating that Zionist colonization plan. Whatever you call it, it's all related, spiritually, morally, and operationally. Bankrupt humanity.

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CK's avatar

Vin LoPresti,

Let us not forget that the British Empire started the mess long before the American Empire took the lead position. Iraq, Iran and Israel were created by the British Empire.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Oh hell yes, the British Empire, probably the greatest sustained force for the persecution of non-Caucasian peoples the world may ever know. Fuck the British empire and all of its crimes. We are lucky, I suppose, that at its peak, it had no access to the type of destructive weaponry developed after WWII.

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CK's avatar

The American Empire is doing a fine job of carrying out the legacy of the British one. Multinational / transnational private American corporations try to present a more genteel approach to their invasions, but rely upon the US armed forces and the CIA for protection and enforcement.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Microsoft workers oppose ties with Israel. Microsoft claims that after conducting its internal investigation, with “external fact-finding,” they’ve found “no evidence to date that Microsoft’s Azure and AI technologies have been used to target or harm people in the conflict in Gaza.”

We do not accept that claim, and neither do the workers who issued a statement in response to the company’s PR.3


Take action with us — and support the Microsoft workers organizing to cut the company’s ties with Israel’s military

https://act.mpowerchange.org/go/71588?t=3&akid=10199%2E809623%2EH7UcG5

Microsoft and other tech partners, like Google and Amazon, are helping redefine the ugly underbelly of U.S. technology’s use in war.

We’ve set up a digital action where you can send emails to Microsoft leadership, including AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman, with just a few clicks.

And let’s tell Google to stop weaponizing AI, and to cut ties with Israel.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-google-stop-using-your-ai-for-genocide-apartheid-and-border-violence?source=mc_GoogleNext_2025_04_10

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JennyStokes's avatar

Vin: The bloody Brits. have not given up. Boris Johnsonbuffon stopped the signing of the 2nd Minsk Treat. Not to mention the surveillance flights from Cyprus (British Airbase)over Palestine/ sharing their spying with the Zionasties.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Jenny, I wonder if they will ever shed the empire mentality.

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Warmongerers

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Yes ! The British "wrongdoings" are still effective nowadays. The US are their heriters as former Europeans, calling themselves white supremacistes. Horror !

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IAIN COLQUHOUN's avatar

The late Madeleine (notsobright) Albright, US Secretary of State under Bush, herself a survivor of the Holocaust, said that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children due to the 12 year embargo imposed by the USA and the UK was a “price we had to pay”…

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Wasn't that she was not so bright, but that she was a sociopath, if ever heard one. Woman spoke with a death-rattle in her voice. Kill kill kill.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Victoria Nuland!

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IAIN COLQUHOUN's avatar

She’s another “case” in point. Power attracts sociopaths. They are given the freedom to put their pathology in practice

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Although (apparently) not spoken by either, this anonymous White House quote captured by Ron Suskind around 2004 perfectly relates the 21st century's triumph of the psychopaths.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Hillary Clinton!

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have never been a feminist. Why? Because behind ALL wimpy men there is a woman.

Women in the Colonialist Empire were NOT allowed to work (they did CHARITY's) that was their work.

My mother was exceptionally smart but she was anhiliated by SL Society. She conformed.

She sent us: My sister and me to Britain at age 7yrs and 8yrs old. We had our holidays with my Grandparents in the North of England. My Grandfather was a socialist.

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gypsy33's avatar
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Jenny, I’ve never had the need to think of myself as a feminist either, cause there ain’t one goddamn man on the planet that I’m “inferior” to, and I’ve known it my entire life.

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CK's avatar

Not a price that she had to pay, personally.

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IAIN COLQUHOUN's avatar

Do any of them ever pay the price for their criminal activities?

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CK's avatar

Many are praised or rewarded.

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Landru's avatar

Adolf? You are right, not many do pay the price. My Argentine friends deny that he lived his life out there.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

That's funny because I watched a documentary that showed and proved the path he took to get there! They also produced FBI documents that showed the FBI was in South America watching him!

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Shadiya's avatar

Actually, she said it was a price worth paying, which is worse.

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Landru's avatar

Sorry, I won't be able to give you credit when I use it, Madeleine (notsobright) : ) Damn that is good.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

The US slaughtered millions of Native Americans and stole their lands. It slaughtered the North Korean and the Vietnamese peoples for wanting to run their countries they way they wanted to. It's now aiding and abetting a genocide... Yankee Devil indeed.

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GS-z-14-1's avatar

However Afghanistan’s horrors were not so widely known. Gaza genocide is because it is live-streamed.

Gaza has become a ‘normalizing’ display of the US’ latest model of warfare.

It is said that unless stopped in Ukraine, ‘Putin’ [it’s the Russian Federation, children] won’t stop until Europe is taken. It begs a question:

Where do you think the Gaza genocide ends?

Russia and China were always the goal. We are seeing the opening stages of WW III.

The fate of Gaza will be the fate of humanity. And if humanity refuses to stop this genocide, it forfeits its own humanity and fails to justify its continued existence.

We are all Gazans.

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

This is a surreal nightmare. Anyone who supports this genocide would be sobbing if this happened to their family. We are stuck in a nightmare and our supposed leaders dont care. The elites dont care about anything besides zionism. Even economic pain isn't enough. I dont know what the answer is at this point.

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David Quinly's avatar

Genocide Joe said the quiet part out loud when he tried to sell aiding and abetting slaughter as good paying U.S. jobs replenishing WMDs from murder stock. Just another murderous, chickenshit chickenhawk, profiteer.

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

Exactly! These big arms contracts barely create jobs. The cash goes right into the zionists bank account. I bet each contract creates 1000 jobs each if that

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Maggie JK's avatar

Yep and I’m tired of people on social media talking about how those of us who called him genocide Joe should see that Trump is not doing any better with Gaza.

Yeah no kidding, but also some of us have been calling him Genocide Joe since the summer of 2021 when he told everyone to get rid of their Covid masks because anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated is going to get a winter of death. Then his CDC director (or maybe it was Fauci) went on TV and told everyone it was fine to spread Covid because some people will fall by the wayside but it’s fine because they’re old or sick anyway so who cares. There’s an urgency for brunch, so it’s fine to kill off people who are old or sick or unvaccinated.

But Blue MAGA will never acknowledge the genocide on the American people for the benefit of capitalism and the record profits of the Airlines.

I didn’t vote for Trump, I would never vote for Trump, but it seems now that people can’t get vaccinated unless they are old or sick, maybe they’ll stop spreading disease. Which means I might actually be able to seek medical care without the fear of getting infected with something that will make my health worse.

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

My area of NJ has measles outbreaks every single year. The ultra orthodox never get vaxxed. We even get cases of whooping cough!

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Maggie JK's avatar

When this all started a woman I know tried to justify what Israel is doing by saying “If someone came for my family I would fight back too.”

so I said, “Sure, but if I ‘came for your family’ and you decided to burn down the whole entire apartment building that I live in just because I came for your family, you would be in the wrong. You would go to jail. Claiming that it’s OK to burn down the apartment building I live in because I did something wrong to you is WRONG.”

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

It is total madness. They had killed over 200 palestinians in 2023 before 10/7. They were seizing territory the entire year and cutting down ancient olive groves out of spite. What kills me is how biden talked tough about adhering to international law but somehow israel can do whatever it wants.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I suppose she blames Nat Turner as well.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

Guerrilla Warfare. That's the only answer.

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

I dont consider hamas to be any different from the zionist terrorists who terrorized the indigenous ppl for decades. Shamir and begin were super terrorists. They both led israel during different periods. I believe shamir personally killed count bernadotte.

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Joanne's avatar

Really? You don't know the difference between the oppressed and the oppressors? Hamas has every right to resist brutal military illegal occupation by any means necessary including armed. Israel actually doesn't have the right to self defense in this conflict because they are the criminals illegally occupying Palestine.

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

Of course they do. I never said they didnt. They do have every right to do so. The israelis have done every single thing that they accuse hamas of doing. Also, we have to be careful what we say about a group that is considered to be terrorists in the eyes of the zionist elites. T

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Joanne's avatar

We absolutely do not need to be careful right now. It's fear and ignorance that got the Palestinians in this position for so long! We need to be as loud and as brave like never before! The people of Gaza deserve that much at least!

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Matt Kiszka's avatar

I know, I just dont want to give them an excuse. Arresting that kneecap guy def sent a chill down my spine. Hamas is the only group fighting for freedom. The PA is an absolute joke. They are the most pathetic collaborators the world has ever known.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Even economic pain isn't enough."

What economic pain? The elites and TPTB benefit (directly and indirectly) from the subjugation (in whatever form) of the Palestinian people. To describe it more precisely - threatening Israel (by defending Palestinians or by other means) also threatens the U.S. Empire AND the system of Capitalism that benefits DIRECTLY from imperialism, settler-colonialism, oppression, exploitation, and more.

Hence, the 'seemingly puzzling and immoral' support for Israel (and Zionism) by the constituents of 'the top levels of our unjust social-hierarchical systems'. These people/elements are protecting their interests - and Israel and the geopolitics/resources/etc. surrounding it in the MENA region (and beyond) ARE those interests.

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Bushrod Lake's avatar

Gaza is a prelude for people who don't conform, played by the elites who think they own the planet. And they've got the weapons to prove it (paid for by you and me).

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Ned B.'s avatar

Six years ago, a spinal injury made it such that I can't stand for more than a few minutes without searing pain. Our small town has a weekly downtown vigil where the two highways through town intersect, pro-Palestine on one corner, pro-Israel on the opposite corner. For many months, I wanted to stand in solidarity with the five or six pro-Palestine folks, but knew I couldn't. Then I made a resolution: I must stand with Palestine. For a month now, I've attended every Friday, I use trekking poles as crutches to hold me up until my legs go numb and I physically collapse (usually 30-45 minutes). It is brutal, but I think to myself: at least I have legs to stand on, unlike so many children in Gaza, who have limbs amputated without anesthetic. I can make my performative appearance, then go home and eat lunch, unlike the starving population of Gaza. I can sleep in a warm bed at night with a secure roof over my head, unlike the displaced, disposed people of Palestine. I do the best I can to bear witness publicly to the ongoing genocide in Palestine.

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Maggie JK's avatar

I appreciate you, but also your presence would count just as much if you had to sit in a chair. So please take care of yourself.

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Ned B.'s avatar

Thank you, Maggie. A chair would be more comfortable, I agree, but, for me, the symbolism of standing in solidarity is an expression of my resolve "to stand with Palestine."

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Davina's avatar

I am with you there, Ned. The injury caused by someone chatting to her passenger instead of what was in front of her caused a pile up and damaged my spine, like you standing is agony in a moment or two. I now have to use a rollator to get around, the mobility scooter is no good because our "sidewalks" are a disgrace and make feel they are about to be tipped over. Maybe if you could get a rollator it would help you stand and then when it gets too hard you can sit on it until ready to stand again. Just a thought.

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Ned B.'s avatar

Thank you, Davina, for your suggestion. A rollator may be in my future, but for now, I rely on the trekking poles. About your spinal injury, all I can say I feel you. Before mine, even at 70, I was an athlete in peak condition. Quite an adjustment to be compromised physically, even more of an adjustment to endure relentless pain. I can only think how excruciating it must be for the maimed and wounded people of Gaza, with no access to medication or a functioning hospital.

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Davina's avatar

I lived to dance but one person's lack of attention stopped that. Like you, I wonder at the fortitude and how Palestinians survive the agony of an amputation without anaesthetics. One surgery tore the dura mater around the spine and the stitches rubbing against the nerve was the worst pain I have experienced in my 85 years. I held off on the rollator for too long, but you take up these things when it is time to relent, my Care Advisor heavy hinted for many months before I admitted I she was right -- talk about stubborn, me noy her.

Take care,

Regards

DAVINA

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JennyStokes's avatar

Well done Ned B.

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Lynley Hocking's avatar

🙏🏾❤️

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Landru's avatar

You are a hero my friend, yes a hero. I walk with you.

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gypsy33's avatar

Ned, you’re a hero.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Hey Americans celebrating Memorial Day and having a BBQ. Please watch this video today. The made up State of Israel and supporters have really bad Karma/Blow back ahead.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

My friend, P, who was Agent-Oranged, (resulting Leukemia) in 'Nam hates this day with a passion, second only to his hatred of Veteran's day. Gets depressed as hell.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

War Is A Racket. Today is Day 5 of V.F.P. and others 40 day fast (250 cal. a day). Veterans For Peace will be in the Albany Memorial parade today as usual! * Israel=Nazi*

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Landru's avatar

Great book, Smedly had it right.

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Landru's avatar

Story for you my friend. A Memorial day with extended family. One of my Uncles volunteered for the Air Force in 1962, flew F 104s in Vietnam, TWO tours. His prideful story that day was about dropping Napalm on villages to see farming families running on fire. Some family laughed, I left and they had to come find me running away. Your story reminded me of that day, of a Psychopath and family member. Must have been my Father's genes that saved me. That side of the family, teachers, engineers and doctors. My family hated me on that side, longer hair, protests at middle/high school. My Grandfather sent an application to Air Force academy for me. Colorblind : )

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Lot of families at odds over that war, bro. I had some gung-ho cousins too; didn't appreciate my hair, peace symbols, etc. The brainwashing of American exceptionalism leaves a stinking residue.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

Unfortunately this is a cold hard fact. I have one family member left and can't talk to him at all because he has that "exceptionalism" built in to the core. There's something in the water!

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If you don't know yet, the story of the recording artist known by his last name only as Rodriguez (his real first name being Sixto) is explored on and sold as video and audio discs now back in print in music & film shops and screened in packed Repertory Movie Houses and Art House Film Fests as his parallel universe before he was written off as dead and went underground for decades outside of Detroit has been re-written in lyrics provided on the now reissued early 70's albums of his on a track named "Cold Hard Fact."

Hate Street Dialogue

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibJQGkgJsY&list=PL2IchvXqOz1Fvfi1gNTw2uZQ26AZzcJNb&index=6

In fact "Cold (Hard) Fact" is here in a live and way more recent version after Rodriguez was "rediscovered" and apparently revivified since he then got to tour in large arenas & classy theaters across the U.S. following the release of an indie documentary film that got theatrical release illustrating through clips and interviews with those who were involved the rough journey his early professional life and disappearance along with the undocumented and barely contested fabrications of his death in that Academy Award for best doc that did well in US theaters just as Pandemic was coming and titled Searching For Sugar Man.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChOXAzvKLEY

Sixto Diaz 'Jesus' Rodriguez - Amoeba, San Francisco, USA

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Rodriguez with band & horns live In-Store Performance at time of

theatrical release of documentary on life & works. Along with first proper US tour since the folding of his career in fortunes of those who owned and sank the Record Label that originally launched his career: 23rd November 2008 Amoeba, San Francisco, USA

01. Inner City Blues

02. I Wonder

03. Can

04. Forget It

"I Wonder if he will give to fans some new material or another live album after being found again!..."

As the documentary film explains with help from a very live if bemused Sixto Rodriguez the narrative of a most remarkable life goes something like this, frozen and well-kept in the often snowy upper midwest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Searching_for_Sugar_Man

"Searching for Sugar Man is a 2012 documentary film about a South African cultural phenomenon, written and directed by Malik Bendjelloul, which details the efforts in the late 1990s of two Cape Town fans, Stephen "Sugar" Segerman and Craig Bartholomew Strydom, to find out whether the rumoured death of American musician Sixto Rodriguez was true and, if not, to discover what had become of him..."

"...Rodriguez's music, which had never achieved success in his home country of the United States, had become very popular in South Africa, although little was known about him there."

"On 10 February 2013, the film won the BAFTA Award for Best Documentary at the 66th British Academy Film Awards in London[2] and two weeks later, it won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature at the 85th Academy Awards in Hollywood.[3][4] "

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Rodriguez+Searching+for+Sugar+man+

Rodriguez worked manual labor just outside of Detroit, US, while his fan base abroad wrote him off as a 3 album wonder of the 70's. His home country and the rest of North America and overseas were just markets for the handful of financial folk that founded his original record label that eventually was liquidated.

Rodriguez had been revered here in his home country for a year or three as an Anglo Blue Collar literary bard to rival that kid from just outside of Duluth, Zimmy Dylan....

And while some overseas bizness shysters kept the 3 original albums in print on labels that never sent any money home to Rodriguez in the US (nor apparently did they pay any taxes despite big record sales in South Africa!) until the documentary surfaced telling Rodriguez's tale in his own words at long last, he nevertheless remained a valid Lit Hero generating cult interest in contemporary youth markets along with the older generation of record collectors into whose pockets and investment portfolios some negotiable currency was collected around the shady Music Biz auction block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esG4gK-pieA&list=PL2IchvXqOz1Fvfi1gNTw2uZQ26AZzcJNb

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Producer: Mike Theodore

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Maggie JK's avatar

I’m almost positive I saw a commercial on TV yesterday that was reminding people that saying “Happy Memorial Day” is inappropriate because this is a day to honor the dead. That phrase has always been annoying to me, apparently someone with money decided to make a PSA about it.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Have a nice day if you want the Palestine Holocaust stopped

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Susan Pagac's avatar

Seriously. And the fires’ red glare, the kids bursting in air, give proof through the night, that the West is insane. If they were blown back to the Big Bang, it wouldn’t be far enough. Have a hot dog.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Pass me a leg, and Freedom Fries please. Free Palestine NOW.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Israel and the U.S. BBQ-ed a little girl and others for Memorial Day!

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dacoelec's avatar

I'm in 100 percent agreement!!

I never miss a chance to educate those I come in contact with on the actions of the zionist's.

Just returned from a trip to eastern Pennsylvania and found plenty of people who were worked up about the genocide in Gaza.

I really believe that social media is waking people up to the evil of the zionist regime.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I hope.

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CK's avatar

I have made numerous enemies among those who refuse to believe that genocide is happening, as well as those who believe that genocide is good.

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Jasmine Musakhanian's avatar

Only the hypocrites could have waited 20 months to speak, kind of, against genocide and ethnic cleansing.

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Darren G Whitney's avatar

Yes, "kind of". Testing the waters.

We'll see if their thirst for audience-capture outweighs their fear of zionazi backlash.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Maybe, they are hypocrites. I wonder, though, if you aren't being too hard on them. I, personally, welcome anyone coming to see the light, yesterday, today or tomorrow.

I have been waiting for all of you a very long time, since I was 14, and now I'm 80.

I recall seeing the first "Stop the Occupation", sign at a rally against the Iraq invasion, and alongside, close, tight, alongside, the joy of seeing someone else, for the first time, on "my" side, was the most intense anger - how had it taken them so long to see the truth of this, to know it for what it was. I got past that anger, pretty quickly, and embraced the new converts. I hope you will as well, because many here, perhaps even you, were not here at some time in the past.

We need more and more newcomers joining in the choir, singing, "Amazing Grace, I once was lost, but now, I'm found, was blind, but now I see."

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

❤️🙏

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Landru's avatar

Still I welcome them. Piers Morgan, finally is awake. If he only makes that one statement live on air, "I was wrong about Palestine" good on him. I take back all the sh it I said about him, "Do you support Hamas".

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Shadiya's avatar

He's not awake, he's just trying to save his arse. He thinks he can avoid being on the wrong side of history, too late Moron, too late.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Piers Morgan will NEVER be awake. In fact, I would say that Piers Morgan (and people like him) are NOT INTERESTED in being awake. They are interested in doing whatever they need to (and saying whatever they need to) to maintain the status-quo of the transnational Capitalist class and more.

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Jerry's avatar

Piers Morgan’s so called turnabout on the Palestinian genocide is too little, too late. We don’t want to hear it! Moreover, if one listens closely to what he actually said , he hasn’t really made a full 180.

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Sam's avatar

If Piers hasn’t stopped condemning Hamas then he hasn’t changed his position. Besides enough people had explained the conflict to him and he kept refusing to understand it.

I think he’s paid to be as disruptive and rude as he is. 20 months before he sees the truth? Blehh!

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yep! As I explained in my comment, Piers Morgan is NOT INTERESTED in making any REAL changes - he is a media personality - and as such will tend to blow with the wind.

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Dr Monica's avatar

This genocide is taking place for DECADES! its nothing new... This genocide is the best mirror and reporter of what kind of world we have, on what kind of planet we live on and WHO the hell is in charge in....HELL = our world. It is a world of pain, suffering and injustice. It is a world of unkindness and wickedness in high places, for the most part because the masses do NOT really care.

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SW's avatar

If my two neighbors, family X and family Y, painted their houses tan or purple or blue, I would be neutral. But if family X shot family Y’s children, arrested the father and sent him to prison where he died of torture, fire bombed the house and when the mother tried to save her elderly parents and the one child left, destroyed the hospital, killed the aide workers, and targeted the journalists who tried to report on the devastation, then bulldozed the ruins of family Y’s home — all of it to steal the land it was sitting on because God told family X it was theirs — I could not remain neutral.

Yet many prominent journalists and fake “spiritual leaders” want to present themselves as above the fray or not sufficiently informed to make a judgement or consider it an insult if challenged on their lack of courage. I’ve read several who say well, this has all happened before, genocide is part of human history. To me, that’s like saying human beings are never to be expected to learn from the past and behave ethically.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

❤️❤️ Thank you SW! 🙏🙏 Why is THIS not the most liked comment of the day?

I'm going to save your comment for future rebuttal with others - much appreciate it.

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Susan T's avatar

A devout Christian told me she is doing this because it says it will happen in the Bible. She told me that saying it was a genocide was my "opinion". Thousands of people are dying. Many of us live in countries where the governments are sending weapons to aid the murderers. I feel as if my mind is going some days.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Man is not a rational animal but a rationalizing animal.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Man is many things - a rationalizing animal, an irrational animal, a rational animal, a moral animal, an immoral animal, and more.

Humans are full of contradictions. Welcome to being human.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I wouldn't know.

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Sam's avatar

If she was a real Christian she would be against this genocide because it’s against gawd’s law to kill.

But seriously it’s insane that Christian Zionists are only supporting Israel because they want Jesus to come back and kill all the Jews who don’t convert to Christianity.

That’s one seriously fcked up plan.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Makes me wonder if the Jewish zy0nists in Israel have some kind of plan to take out the Christian (so-called) zy0nists who want to off them all when they don't convert. They seem to appreciate the Christian zy0nists' help though...

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Sam's avatar

I guess Jesus will have to referee their dispute. Isn’t he the one who is supposed to kill the Jews who won’t convert? Kinda goes against the thou shalt not kill law doesn’t it?

No wonder lots of people believe that the Jesus story was made up.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Yeah, this "Rapture theology" originated in the 1830s, primarily through the teachings of John Nelson Darby. It has nothing to do with the Bible, the New Testament or anything Jesus ever said or did. I just find the people who are attracted to it sort of sad and pathetic and misguided.

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Landru's avatar

My friend, you are of sound mind like few others. I walk with you.

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Rombald's avatar

I'm Christian myself (the aim of my comment is not to debate the truth of Christianity!), and this sort of thing troubles me. I suppose I'm in the same boat as Caitlin vis-a-vis her "spiritual teacher".

As for it being "God's will" and "in the Bible", well, in a sense, that's true of all horrors in the world. However, Christians are supposed to try, usually unsuccessfully, to struggle against them or alleviate them.

I think the reference is probably to the Dispensationalist (a subgroup of Evangelical) belief that (i) the Jews remain the Chosen People, and should be supported almost unconditionally; and (ii) the biblical Israel, whatever that was exactly, must be established before the Second Coming. That is totally heretical in terms of historic Christianity, and was invented in about 1820 in Ireland, later being highly influential in the USA.

However, even a lot of Christians who are not Dispensationalist or Evangelical are strongly pro-Israel. One example is Rod Dreher, an Eastern Orthodox, who I used to have a lot of time for (I'm Oriental Orthodox myself).

It disgusts me that so many non-Dispensationalist Christians are pro-Israel, and I've been trying to sort out in my mind why they are. These are my suggestions:

1. Western supremacism: They link Christianity with "the West" and see Israel as part of the West, so it has to be defended. This avoids the issues of whether "the West" actually exists, and what connection it has to Christianity.

2. US exceptionalism: In the case of Americans, "my country right or wrong".

3. Misplaced guilt about historical Christian treatment of Jews.

4. Hostility to Islam: This is the only one of the four I could even imagine accepting. I dislike Islam, over and above believing it to be a false religion like Buddhism, say. However, where this breaks down is that the USA is allied to the nastiest Islamic nations, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Iran is relatively benign. Put it like this; I would love to visit Iran as a tourist, but not Pakistan.

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Finni's avatar

Christianity is man made religion made by someone called Paulus. It's a religion teached by Paulus not Jesus. Paulus just quoted his name because Jesus was the most famous man among Jewish community at that time. Jesus was a prophet that showed people so many divine miracles while Paulus is no prophet. He was just a nobody with no divine revelation. He was a fraud to be precise.

The initial idea about the religion was how to controlled people, make them stopped thinking and feeling and just blindly followed the doctrine, even though it doesn't make any sense at all. If you asking anything about the religion then you have no faith. Well you can only have faith & conviction by keep asking and using your brain 1st.

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CK's avatar
2dEdited

“It’s all God’s will”, right? 😞

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Anti-Hip's avatar

Don't even get me started on a God rant ... oh well ... I do think a stand-up comic could do better than a godmonger:

"Ever read the first few pages of Genesis? God is 'infinitely loving' of everybody -- as long as we clean house first by burning alive the heathens. 'If God wants it, that makes it right.' Thank God that Good Cop Jesus came just in time after Bad Cop the Father!

"So, hmm, how do I know what God wants? If I get a book from somebody who tells me that, inside this book, I will find that God made him (and all his brothers) king of the hill, and that I must do what both He and he tell me to do, I will receive wonderful riches of all kinds. Cass Sunstein (or was it F.M. Harder?) calls this 'nudging'. Do it right, and you'll be self-flagellating in no time! These riches will only come to you after you're dead, of course. In the meantime, you should fork over ten percent to 'the Big Guy' (wink wink), that is, the godmongers who are telling you what to do wherever it isn't covered in the book.

"And if you're too mentally challenged to understand any of this, you need to study ten million other documents and, in consultation with other godmongers, read the goddam tea leaves, for chrissakes -- and don't come back to him until after you do. You know, I tried to tell him once that if I got, say, five identical c. 300 B.C.E. copies of Genesis etc. in local languages from present-day Fiji, Madagascar, Chile, Baffin Island, and Iceland, it would *really* help his case, he looked at me as if I had two heads. And, if God did something as simple as opening the heavens and just saying 'I'm here!', I'd believe Him in a New York nanosecond. All you atheists out there - you *know* it's true!

"Did I ever tell you how the infinitely powerful, infinitely-intelligent, infinitely-merciful, ur-God created Satan, who, like the rest of us, has this perfectly intelligible thing called "free will"? For God knows what reason... For the vast majority, though, it conforms quite well to Dunning-Kruger, in fact: The dumber you are, the more you think you're in control. *Especially* of your mind. But it *is* an important question in quantum physics.

[Voice trailing in the distance] "I know, I know, faith isn't rational. That must be why they use (logic-based) human languages to spread the 'Good News'. ... "

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

I appreciate what you are trying to do. I was thinking the other day, that what we need are missionary groups to go and introduce the Christian Zionists to the words of the Jesus who gave us the Sermon on the Mount, and other such sayings as "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Going to Texas is not as exotic as going to Uganda, but it might be a sacrifice worth doing. I know there are religious groups that send missionaries to Utah to convert the Mormans.

If they can send missionaries to undermine other cultures and religions, they should not be surprised if others want to do the same for them.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"introduce the Christian Zionists to the words of the Jesus"

Yes, I agree the same sort of effort needs to be made with Christian Zionists to counteract what, apparently, certain Jewish Zionists must have done to them over the decades. I mean, really, where did it come from, all of a sudden in the 20th century? (I myself have a sibling and some of their family who are infected with this disease. I have not yet researched its origins.) To work, it would have to be just as organized, and may need to take just as much time. But we don't have time.

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CK's avatar

https://www.willerup.com/tull/lyrics/aqualung.html

Jethro Tull’s explanation.

Most religious books/text that are written by humans contain some flaws and biases.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

I've never understood what need God would have for a godmonger. The fact that there exist books ("scripture") at all is evidence they are false.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Given that most people were illiterate back then, you would have expected something more in the oral tradition, such as Homer, Gilgamesh, and the like, had god really wanted to connect with the people. What's up with that?

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Sure, I don't doubt that it was primarily oral communication, and all the way up to the late second millennium. (Were you thinking "monger" is specifically oral?) But if there was supposedly a God booming out commands from heaven then, there certainly should be a God doing that now. There isn't.

v------- (tangentially expanding on my own beliefs - skip if bored) --------v

In any case, the supposedly all-powerful Abrahamic God would never have any need to bite His nails over whether the people He supposedly loves so much will obey Him, as He would instead instill every person with a firm belief in, and a sufficient understanding of, Him. But He clearly doesn't. Instead, He plays a ridiculous hide-and-seek game, and talks about some kind of miserly bean-counting sin ledger that His precious Jesus (despite his powers, He couldn't have made more than a *single* "son" to get the job done, you see) made a superhuman sacrifice for that we supposed to fall down in awe of and service to. If I fell for that past the age of, say, 12 I'd seek a bucket of cold water and slap my face silly. There are dozens if not thousands of other absurdities, but these popped off the top of my thinking about it with taking only a short time to write it out.

Because I'm convinced the actual reason most people believe in a God -- especially when very intelligent ones do; the ones I know personally tell me things like "it's beyond explanation" (but why are you pushing it stealth into my Congressional representation??) -- is because they (we) are "programmed" to by evolution, for ancient psychological health, as brains evolved yet understanding of the world remained frustratingly limited. (Some people, like me, obviously have significantly less of this trait.) When in recent millennia they folded in generations of wisdom about *human nature* (not just stories about magical creatures), the scriptures took on an awe-inspiring quality. Nothing *actually* super-human, of course, or we wouldn't even be able to understand it. At least this worked until the Enlightenment starting opening minds (including raising literacy). There's precious little I'm looking forward to with A.I., but crunching this deeper is one of them.

^----------------------------------------------------------------------------------^

Which brings me back to the present case of people committing genocide over things a supposed God supposedly said, and my beyond-frustrated reaction to it: I am well-convinced, that TPTB psychopaths (that I often refer to in my comments) are specifically using this human weakness to corral people back to faith-based interpretation of the world, which will of course make us weaker and more susceptible to what they've got in store for us.

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Ice Core Scientist's avatar

Every word. Incidentally the little girl in this film survived without any major burns thank god

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Mary Glaros's avatar

Last year I signed up for a well-known meditation app called Waking Up by Sam Harris. Recently I saw a clip where he calls himself an “unapologetic Zionist.” (Is there an apologetic one?) He is one sick human being and fraud and no one should be listening to his spiritual BS about how to live.

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CK's avatar

Sam Harris has a loyal following in his cult. Jim Jones had Kool-Aid for his followers.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

There seems to be this thing call the 'Intellectual Dark Web' that is comprised of pseudo-intellectuals like Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Douglas Murray, Ben Shapiro, and more.

(https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/5/10/17338290/intellectual-dark-web-rogan-peterson-harris-times-weiss)

Bear in mind that the above article has input from Zionists (Bret Weinstein, Eric Weinstein, and Bari Weiss), but it still contains valuable/interesting information.

Another interesting video to watch (on YouTube) on the topic -> We need to talk about pseudo-intellectuals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odPnVhT_YAc)

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Sam Harris has ALWAYS been an Islamophobe even before 9/11.

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Carolyn's avatar

I cannot understand how some people I have previously respected try to say that Israel is justified. It is crazy. It is nonsense. It is abhorrent.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Shows how dangerous 'indoctrination', 'conformity', 'group-think', 'lack of moral clarity', and 'lack of adequate critical thinking skills' (not to mention lack of empathy, caring, kindness, etc.) can be.

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Guy Schell's avatar

"There is only one correct position to have on the Gaza holocaust, and if you still haven’t managed to find your way into that position then I think it’s fair to say you have been wasting your life up until this point." Like she said!

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David 1260's avatar

Caitlin, with that quote, I think you're losing your spiritual edge and descending into self-righteousness. I had my doubts when you implored your readers to take in all the suffering visible on those screens. I decided I was incapable of doing that, because of my own issues. I think you've hit your limit, and need to pull back, to restore the balance you've maintained so well for the years I've been reading you.

Your gift is to lift people up out of their dualistic world view. I urge you to take some time off to regain that attunement. This crisis is the biggest challenge yet to people of heart, as the horror is now overshadowing the connection to Oneness. This is when your readers most need your wisdom.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

If that is your takeaway from Caitlin's article, then you need to read it again (and possibly work on yourself using whatever spirituality works for you - though I think criticaly thinking might have more of an impact here).

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Guy Schell's avatar

"I decided I was incapable of doing that, because of my own issues." Hmmm... your probably right. You have issues.

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Tom Fitzgerald's avatar

If you are aware of the genocide in Gaza and stay silent or non partizan when asked your opinion about it then you are just a collaborator in the Gazan holocaust!

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