I have avoided MSM for years. But now it seems like more and more independent media headlines are screaming about the End of the World every day. I am confused. I thought the EOTW was yesterday. Why am I still here?
In order to avoid being paralyzed by fear 24x7, I need to reduce my consumption of actual independent news. Any suggestions?
I love Caitlin. Today’s piece is awesome. Re-stacking.
One approach is to pay no attention to anything that doesn't directly affect you personally. Consume NO news. I don't recommend it, but it's possible to stay away from the manipulative voices on either side. Or, you learn to take everything with a grain of salt and limit your consumption of news to trusted sources and NEVER read the inflammatory comments. Including this one.
When a war is ongoing it is foolish to read any news about any activities of such war. No matter MSM or independent. As it's impossible to know the truth which, as we know, is the first casualty of any war.
You can read history about past wars/conflicts instead which have been researched and documented, and apply that knowledge to analyze the current happenings. That'll give you much more ground to stand on, less emotionally charged, plus protect from ongoing manipulations, intentional or otherwise.
Thank you for the sage advice, @Russian_bot:) I highly recommend Historian Rashid Khalidi, author of The Hundreds' Year War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917- 2017. Here is a link to a conversation Between him and Chris Hedges https://youtu.be/cZ55JmOlSdg?si=rs2U_5EhsnREJDcm
Begging your pardon,there is a Jewish academic,a professor called Shlomo Sands who has written several books (I've got two) about the real origins and growth of present day Israel. When I read the two that I have it put a different perspective on the whole narrative,the one I've been taught(in subtle ways) all my life.
I still watch/read some of it now and then for a few minutes at a time as a cautionary-tale warning to myself: how could I have been such a fool ever to have swallowed all that crap???
Yeah, after a few minutes or a scan of headlines at some msm websites, I'm done for the day. It's all a bit much. I do like Aaron Mate and Sabby Sabs and others who take on the tough job of telling me what's actually in that 10 minute piece on why there's so much antisemitism in colleges nowadays.
In fairness I should note CNN and some others have begun to tentatively step up to the plate recently in helping to debunk Israeli lies like mass rapes and beheaded babies, but rather late in the game.
As they say: "A day late and a dollar short." I think CNN and other mainstream media mouthpieces for the government propaganda machine are trying not to look too stupid when at last all truth is revealed.
"Since April 2018 I have boycotted all mainstream media. I recommend this life-improving course."
I disagree. It's important to keep track of what they're doing. Take a mental break when you need. Never pay for content. But don't completely abandon it, or you'll risk falling out of shape. It can be limited to scanning Google News headlines.
There are plenty of Independent News shows that will do that for you. Katie Halper and Aaron Mate's weekly Monday morning youtube show, "Useful Idiots" is one of the best.
Although I often feel sorry for both of them that they have to go through the abuse on a weekly basis. Because I sure ain't goin' to spend my time watching "Morning Joe" anymore, or Antony Blinken serve up more of his bullshit - that I mute within 10 seconds, or I will become quickly nauseous. I have to do this to maintain my health.
I don't have the stamina or ability to watch anymore. Maybe it's due to old age. I feel physical nausea whenever I listen to Joe Biden more than 5 seconds, or John Kirby, or Antony Blinken for more than 10+ seconds. I'm thinking maybe I need to see a doctor to find out why the nausea comes on so quickly. On the other hand, I'm able to watch an a hour and a half long discussion on the Greyzone or an hour long analysis on Glenn Greenwald's show - no problem. Schizophrenia? I salute your own stamina and fortitude Anti-Hip - you are a better man than me.
Raw source requirement applies to those who do journalism etc for a living. Regular folks do not have to grow calluses consuming the garbage. Volunteers are welcome, but most should just stay away to maintain sanity.
My meaning of "raw source" = reading the actual MSM to know what's in there. Not simply taking someone's word on it, even if it's trusted Substack and other good journalists.
Russian bot advocates not doing any personal fact checking or checking sources, only read those outlets who you trust to do all of your checking for you, somehow without ever checking. This is terrible advice, the advice of someone who wants to advocate people eat another narrative, as opposed to search for whats happening.
But you *do* need to know how it evolves. For example, see the establishment efforts now to exonerate the ringleaders of the COVID authoritarianism features that resulted in harm.
My work partner and I were forced to listen to our boss’s choice of radio stations in the office of the nursery we worked at; it included the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity. When I complained, my partner/friend quietly drew me aside and told me: “It’s important to know how the enemy thinks”.
No words. Blumenthal/Maté show images of Noa Argamani, perfectly healthy Israeli hostage pampered by Hamas, compared with those of imprisoned Palestinian activist Bassem Tamimi, looking, at 57, like a starved skeletal refugee from Auschwitz after only 9 months imprisonment by Israel. Photos don't lie. Exactly where's the source of the inhumanity here?
Yes, I've noticed how healthy and smiling they looked, not dazed and confused. Yet Israeli "experts" were quickly warning us how "horribly" they had been abused. It was just silly.
Zionist hasbara Bullshitters not only think that posting a long and convoluted torrent of shite makes them appear well-read and smart, but the Zionist hasbara Bullshitter also thinks that responding to the killing of civilians by posting an avalanche of tripe will convince the reader that there is "nuance" involved when Zionists murder children, doctors, nurses and disabled people for their own amusement.
The other goal of this tactic is to bore the reader into submission.
Capitalism: War is good for business. There are more profits to be made by abuse, suppression, oppression, homelessness, etc, than from a happy, healthy, thriving population. Yes we're being murdered for fun and profit. Nothing new unde the sun.
To channel Frederic Bastiat, the weapons are what is seen, but what is unseen, besides the carnage that those weapons wreak, is the investment that people would make in their own families, homes, and neighborhoods if their tax dollars weren't diverted to destructive ends and means. Preferably the money shouldn't be taken in the first place, but the early American republic at least had a reasonable definition of the Commons that coerced tax money could and should be spent on. Now it's all going to politically connected pressure groups and their minions and politically connected businesses and contractors. It's one big racket, and we ain't in it.
I agree with you up to the "nothing new under the sun" part. There's much that is new under the sun in these days:
Killer drones (some that cry like a baby)/ robotic killing machines/ using AI facial recognition and drones to kill reporters, aide workers, etc/ committing heinous war crimes and posting it all on social media... this list could go on & on. We are living in very dark and very evil days.
No, I meant that the wealthy have been doing this to us for thousands of years. They have more weapons at their disposal now to keep us chained to them.
I think the timetable for these current issues is within recent history. The agenda has been accelerating since 9-11. We're on the doorstep of the big reveal, which is nothing good... & nothing like we've seen before. I have great hopes that the masses of little people will be able to turn this around. People are waking up and fighting mad
I'm fairly certain this started after FDR left office. He was the last actual progressive president until Carter. They assassinated Kenedy because he was too progressive and he refused to aid Israel. The oligarchs don't like progressive policies because they can't pillage and destroy at will. No it's not good😢 That we are!
Agreed. Don't forget Eisenhower (R) who warned us about the military industrial complex. I think the people protesting are progressives no matter where they live. The truth is coming out & we're all seeing it for what it is.
That he did. I really wish we'd had listened. Yes! They absolutely are. It really is a battle to progress as a species against those who wish to exploit, abuse, and oppress us. We have been regressing as a species because of capitalism and religion. Two of the worst blights on our species 😢
It’s already useless.. that’s what all this global turmoil is about .. very little talk notice on MSM that Saudi Arabia dropped the PETRO $ this week. We all screwed.. but this was part of the bigger plan .. buckle up 🙏
I’m fortunate enough to be able to grow a great deal of my own food; vegetables, fruits and nuts. I will be canning and dehydrating like never before this summer/fall.
We have plenty of room for a few beef cattle and chickens, but I could never kill an animal that I raised .
The answer to this question is much more complicated than that. Dollars are still being widely used but outside of the SWIFT system.
This "Inside China Business" video is one example. There are a couple others to be found on this channel. Or Ben Norton's channel is also a good resource.
All Zionist Hasbara and propaganda is a grotesque creation with zero substance. Even if it does not convince a person, it provokes them into challenging it. And while we piss away our time in ‘battle’, the Zionists can carry on with their genocide.
Once you understand that all Israeli jews have been brainwashed since birth, 10,000-word essays aren't needed. Avigail Abarbanel, an "escaped" Israeli jew, has done an incredible job of countering the zionist narrative. She is having a weekly book discussion you can join. https://open.substack.com/pub/avigail/p/book-club-on-palestine-launch-meeting
Palestine is not a country. The Jews actually have a confirmed history there. And Israel has offered a 2 state solution multiple times and tried to make peace. But the only solution Muslims will accept is “The Final Solution”. Why didn’t any Muslim countries take in the Palestinians? Because if they did, they wouldn’t have an excuse for trying to destroy Israel.
When I was working with the student encampments, I would say things that I thought required a lot of explanation, and the young people would get them instantly. ("American cops are Irish because being Irish in America is different from being Irish in Ireland, the same way that being Jewish in America is different from being Jewish in Israel.") ("Almost all of anti-Palestinian Zionism is cognitive dissonance.") They're so sharp because they aren't shedding a distorting narrative.
Only because you are intellectually challenged and you hang out with people who just regurgitate Iranian propaganda supporting PalestiNazis doesn’t mean any of you is sharp or smart!
Feel free to debunk the content of the points I made. Do you think that being Jewish in Israel is the same as being Jewish in the US? If so, why? Do you think that cognitive dissonance has no role in antii-Palestinisn Zionism? If not, why not? I'm not finding these ad hominems compelling.
By endorsing racist, homophobic and misogynistic islamist, you just support genocidal Iranian mullahs while try to hide your antisemitism behind your thin intellectual veneer!
Spot on! I’ve recently dropped a multi-year subscription to The Atlantic because of the sequential highly-verbose and Talmudic denials of the obvious atrocities being inflicted on the Palestinian people by the stable of committed Zionists on-staff at that publication. Kudos to the youth for designing an ideal response to the hasbara.
You should subscribe to „Der Stürmer“ oder „Der Völkische Beobachter“, should be right up your alley! But wait, I think they stopped being issued in April 1945. Well, I am sure you find similar propaganda on the dark web! I hear ISIS had a magazine called Dabiq…I am sure you’ll like that!
You’re quite right, and so are the kids. I can give an example I just came across. Someone criticized Israelis for cultural appropriation because they are now trying to steal the keffiyeh as a cultural symbol. Two Israelis were shown wearing blue and white keffiyehs. In response to the scornful and shocked comments on this, a hasbarist chimed in with a long essay on how the keffiyeh was actually Jewish, and the Palestinians had stolen it. Skimming his post, I found the hasbarist was actually saying absolutely nothing. Of course Palestinian Jews wore the keffiyeh centuries ago! So did their Muslim and Christian descendants! European Jews never did. Nor did Israelis, AFAIK, until quite recently. So—reams of text of obfustication based on a couple of falsehoods. That’s what they do.
They're trying to appropriate the watermelon symbol, too. Middle East Eye did a human interest piece on this by interviewing Israelis at a march, where a segment of the crowd had watermelon imagery and said they were "taking it back."
And absurd! Palestinians began carrying slices of watermelon when they were forbidden from flying their flag, because the watermelon showed the colors of the Palestinian flag—green, black, red, and white. I have never seen a blue and white watermelon.
Just for my own personal satisfaction, I purchased a couple of Bic lighters with watermelon designs on them. Although I don’t believe that Bic intended them to be political, how long before the Ziopaths insist that Bic stop producing them? 😂
I'm impressed at how well the younger generations are dealing with all the crap that evil hasbara-spouting douchebags like this Flayton person puts out. I'm not sure at age 16 or 20 or even 40 I would have had the presence of mind to deal so swiftly and accurately with the propaganda. I would have wanted to argue and argue and argue and get in the last word. But the "I'm not reading all that" response sounds like an excellent coping mechanism to deal with these genocide-enablers. Thanks, "Kids"! Oh, and FREE PALESTINE!!!
"I'm not sure at age 16 or 20 or even 40 I would have had the presence of mind ..." - it depends on who surrounds you. If you have a mentor figure you trust who's indeed wise you have an opportunity to develop that presence of mind. Among current youngsters there's no lack of dummies and bimbos that have some perverted figures as their idols. The ones you refer to likely have better mentor figures, as there are more ways (online) to run into proper ones.
RB, I wonder: is there any truly just and decent place in this world in which to live?
My father was from a minuscule nation which 99% of Amerikkkans couldn’t find on a map. I’ve often thought about what it would be like to live there. Hint; it’s a Mediterranean country.
"decent place in this world" - in short, I don't think so. "The grass is always greener ..." has and will always be true. Why it often seems that and people constantly fall for it - could be expanded upon but this is not a suitable format for essays.
However, it might make sense for one to return to one's roots so to speak. With all the problems of the old country one has innate affiliation with the place and hence some sense of vigor that one can be more useful and apply themselves fully there. Since it's _yours_ in a sense. There's a Russian saying: где родился, там и пригодился (one's useful where one's born) - which could be expanded for "where one's ancestors came from".
Fuck you. He came here not knowing a word of English, for OPPORTUNITY. He was a successful businessman and we lived in our city’s best neighborhood. I had private school, riding lessons, always new clothes; because of him I grew up privileged.
He was also fluent in four languages. Are YOU, fucking loser?
Since April 2018 I have boycotted all mainstream media. I recommend this life-improving course.
I haven't watched TV in over 15 years. I realized a long time ago that TV and newspapers are junk food for the brain.
And whenever I watch snippets of TV news on the internet I'm immediately reminded of why I stopped watching such garbage.
Actually, I do occasionally watch Al-Jazeera English on my laptop, but I never watch any western mainstream news.
Since you like propaganda, try Russia Today, should be right up your alley!
Viva RT!
I have avoided MSM for years. But now it seems like more and more independent media headlines are screaming about the End of the World every day. I am confused. I thought the EOTW was yesterday. Why am I still here?
In order to avoid being paralyzed by fear 24x7, I need to reduce my consumption of actual independent news. Any suggestions?
I love Caitlin. Today’s piece is awesome. Re-stacking.
One approach is to pay no attention to anything that doesn't directly affect you personally. Consume NO news. I don't recommend it, but it's possible to stay away from the manipulative voices on either side. Or, you learn to take everything with a grain of salt and limit your consumption of news to trusted sources and NEVER read the inflammatory comments. Including this one.
Weaponised Compassion is now being used to emotionally blackmail us and I resent that and find it offensive
Yep, the main tool of the 'liberal interventionist".
When a war is ongoing it is foolish to read any news about any activities of such war. No matter MSM or independent. As it's impossible to know the truth which, as we know, is the first casualty of any war.
You can read history about past wars/conflicts instead which have been researched and documented, and apply that knowledge to analyze the current happenings. That'll give you much more ground to stand on, less emotionally charged, plus protect from ongoing manipulations, intentional or otherwise.
Thank you for the sage advice, @Russian_bot:) I highly recommend Historian Rashid Khalidi, author of The Hundreds' Year War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917- 2017. Here is a link to a conversation Between him and Chris Hedges https://youtu.be/cZ55JmOlSdg?si=rs2U_5EhsnREJDcm
Thanks. To add to the list - Ilan Pappé’s books are a great historically accurate source. One can start with "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (https://archive.org/details/the-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestine-ilan-pappe_202312) and then proceed chronologically to subsequent periods. Or start with the later summary like "Ten Myths about Israel" (https://archive.org/details/ten-myths-about-israel-by-ilan-pappe-2017) and work your way back for more detailed books re particular periods.
I read both. Amazing educational books.
Begging your pardon,there is a Jewish academic,a professor called Shlomo Sands who has written several books (I've got two) about the real origins and growth of present day Israel. When I read the two that I have it put a different perspective on the whole narrative,the one I've been taught(in subtle ways) all my life.
Awesome ! thank you! I will read them next! :-)
Try Russia Today… propaganda for Flat Earthers and PalestiNazis!
It's very helpful to use an ad blocker. In turn this gets one blocked from for-profit media.
Advertising destroys everything it touches; always has. I wouldn't be using the internet at all if I was forced to see ads that I have no interest in.
I still watch/read some of it now and then for a few minutes at a time as a cautionary-tale warning to myself: how could I have been such a fool ever to have swallowed all that crap???
Yeah, after a few minutes or a scan of headlines at some msm websites, I'm done for the day. It's all a bit much. I do like Aaron Mate and Sabby Sabs and others who take on the tough job of telling me what's actually in that 10 minute piece on why there's so much antisemitism in colleges nowadays.
In fairness I should note CNN and some others have begun to tentatively step up to the plate recently in helping to debunk Israeli lies like mass rapes and beheaded babies, but rather late in the game.
As they say: "A day late and a dollar short." I think CNN and other mainstream media mouthpieces for the government propaganda machine are trying not to look too stupid when at last all truth is revealed.
Much the same with me: msm sucks,
alternatives rule.
"Since April 2018 I have boycotted all mainstream media. I recommend this life-improving course."
I disagree. It's important to keep track of what they're doing. Take a mental break when you need. Never pay for content. But don't completely abandon it, or you'll risk falling out of shape. It can be limited to scanning Google News headlines.
There are plenty of Independent News shows that will do that for you. Katie Halper and Aaron Mate's weekly Monday morning youtube show, "Useful Idiots" is one of the best.
Although I often feel sorry for both of them that they have to go through the abuse on a weekly basis. Because I sure ain't goin' to spend my time watching "Morning Joe" anymore, or Antony Blinken serve up more of his bullshit - that I mute within 10 seconds, or I will become quickly nauseous. I have to do this to maintain my health.
"There are plenty of Independent News shows that will do that for you."
Yes, they are great at pointing out things. But reviewing the raw source is essential to understanding the (continually evolving) truth about MSM.
I don't have the stamina or ability to watch anymore. Maybe it's due to old age. I feel physical nausea whenever I listen to Joe Biden more than 5 seconds, or John Kirby, or Antony Blinken for more than 10+ seconds. I'm thinking maybe I need to see a doctor to find out why the nausea comes on so quickly. On the other hand, I'm able to watch an a hour and a half long discussion on the Greyzone or an hour long analysis on Glenn Greenwald's show - no problem. Schizophrenia? I salute your own stamina and fortitude Anti-Hip - you are a better man than me.
{...I'm thinking maybe I need to see a doctor to find out why the nausea comes on so quickly...} 👍👍👍🌹🌹
Stay put !
You are the proud owner of a fully functioning, acquired mental-immune-system that easily sorts-out the daily BS from the real facts ...
"you are a better man than me." - just based on his ability to consume garbage and not throw up? I don't agree.
LOL
Raw source requirement applies to those who do journalism etc for a living. Regular folks do not have to grow calluses consuming the garbage. Volunteers are welcome, but most should just stay away to maintain sanity.
My meaning of "raw source" = reading the actual MSM to know what's in there. Not simply taking someone's word on it, even if it's trusted Substack and other good journalists.
Russian bot advocates not doing any personal fact checking or checking sources, only read those outlets who you trust to do all of your checking for you, somehow without ever checking. This is terrible advice, the advice of someone who wants to advocate people eat another narrative, as opposed to search for whats happening.
That's "raw source" alright. What do you think I meant?
It's 100% lies yesterday. 100% today. 100% tomorrow. I don't need to be reminded.
But you *do* need to know how it evolves. For example, see the establishment efforts now to exonerate the ringleaders of the COVID authoritarianism features that resulted in harm.
My work partner and I were forced to listen to our boss’s choice of radio stations in the office of the nursery we worked at; it included the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity. When I complained, my partner/friend quietly drew me aside and told me: “It’s important to know how the enemy thinks”.
Exactly. Moreover, otherwise we have no idea that there *are* skeletons in our leaders' closets -- and that some of them matter.
I find that The Narrative is so pervasive it's impossible to avoid it. Sooner or later I'll come across someone parroting that stuff.
Second-hand is likely to be a lot more limited, and probably more stupid. Hold your nose, and get it from the source(s).
Brain suckers
No words. Blumenthal/Maté show images of Noa Argamani, perfectly healthy Israeli hostage pampered by Hamas, compared with those of imprisoned Palestinian activist Bassem Tamimi, looking, at 57, like a starved skeletal refugee from Auschwitz after only 9 months imprisonment by Israel. Photos don't lie. Exactly where's the source of the inhumanity here?
Yes, I've noticed how healthy and smiling they looked, not dazed and confused. Yet Israeli "experts" were quickly warning us how "horribly" they had been abused. It was just silly.
Zionist hasbara Bullshitters not only think that posting a long and convoluted torrent of shite makes them appear well-read and smart, but the Zionist hasbara Bullshitter also thinks that responding to the killing of civilians by posting an avalanche of tripe will convince the reader that there is "nuance" involved when Zionists murder children, doctors, nurses and disabled people for their own amusement.
The other goal of this tactic is to bore the reader into submission.
Exactly.
Capitalism: War is good for business. There are more profits to be made by abuse, suppression, oppression, homelessness, etc, than from a happy, healthy, thriving population. Yes we're being murdered for fun and profit. Nothing new unde the sun.
To channel Frederic Bastiat, the weapons are what is seen, but what is unseen, besides the carnage that those weapons wreak, is the investment that people would make in their own families, homes, and neighborhoods if their tax dollars weren't diverted to destructive ends and means. Preferably the money shouldn't be taken in the first place, but the early American republic at least had a reasonable definition of the Commons that coerced tax money could and should be spent on. Now it's all going to politically connected pressure groups and their minions and politically connected businesses and contractors. It's one big racket, and we ain't in it.
Precisely.
I agree with you up to the "nothing new under the sun" part. There's much that is new under the sun in these days:
Killer drones (some that cry like a baby)/ robotic killing machines/ using AI facial recognition and drones to kill reporters, aide workers, etc/ committing heinous war crimes and posting it all on social media... this list could go on & on. We are living in very dark and very evil days.
No, I meant that the wealthy have been doing this to us for thousands of years. They have more weapons at their disposal now to keep us chained to them.
I think the timetable for these current issues is within recent history. The agenda has been accelerating since 9-11. We're on the doorstep of the big reveal, which is nothing good... & nothing like we've seen before. I have great hopes that the masses of little people will be able to turn this around. People are waking up and fighting mad
I'm fairly certain this started after FDR left office. He was the last actual progressive president until Carter. They assassinated Kenedy because he was too progressive and he refused to aid Israel. The oligarchs don't like progressive policies because they can't pillage and destroy at will. No it's not good😢 That we are!
Agreed. Don't forget Eisenhower (R) who warned us about the military industrial complex. I think the people protesting are progressives no matter where they live. The truth is coming out & we're all seeing it for what it is.
That he did. I really wish we'd had listened. Yes! They absolutely are. It really is a battle to progress as a species against those who wish to exploit, abuse, and oppress us. We have been regressing as a species because of capitalism and religion. Two of the worst blights on our species 😢
Rhine Meadow Death Camps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hbp61fOVFaE
Don’t forget Eisenhauers Rhine Meadow Death Camps. Those bodies were the ones shown as victims of the Germans. Check the year of the bulldozer.
And to murder us with. Just look at the bump stock ruling 😬
So true. And the American dollar might just become worthless as the rest of the world stops using it. Free Palestine!
It’s already useless.. that’s what all this global turmoil is about .. very little talk notice on MSM that Saudi Arabia dropped the PETRO $ this week. We all screwed.. but this was part of the bigger plan .. buckle up 🙏
I just put in a big bulk food order.
Hi Diana
I’m fortunate enough to be able to grow a great deal of my own food; vegetables, fruits and nuts. I will be canning and dehydrating like never before this summer/fall.
We have plenty of room for a few beef cattle and chickens, but I could never kill an animal that I raised .
Good for you. Very sensible.
Make sure it’s halal in case you need to donate it to your PalestiNazi friends!
Move quickly BRICS
Anything that moves the world to a more just, peaceful, and multinodal system of relations is welcome. Faster, please.
The answer to this question is much more complicated than that. Dollars are still being widely used but outside of the SWIFT system.
This "Inside China Business" video is one example. There are a couple others to be found on this channel. Or Ben Norton's channel is also a good resource.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUSS1Azo4RY
It is important to understand the context is much wider than just the Israeli genocide. It is important to know it isn't just "Zionists".
THIS.
All Zionist Hasbara and propaganda is a grotesque creation with zero substance. Even if it does not convince a person, it provokes them into challenging it. And while we piss away our time in ‘battle’, the Zionists can carry on with their genocide.
This is brilliant. I will be using it.
You should read „Mein Kampf“, I am sure you will find it educational too…and it might please your PalestiNazi puppeteers!
I ain’t bothering with your grotesque words. Free Palestine.
I’m sure you won’t, since you have the intellectual capacity of a kidney stone!
I have never read a UK newspaper for years not even the free ones. The lies about Corbyn were the end
Just came here to say thank you and congratulate you yet again for your excellent posts.
I ain't writing all that. Just re-stacking with a note. Geez. So blee*$%#ing obvious. Thank you, Caitlin.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
George Orwell's "Politics And The English Language" is most instructive on this.
Seconded, it's valuable information to protect your mind.
This article boiled down the purpose of narrative, particularly in the context of war, down to its essence - manipulation. Thank you.
Once you understand that all Israeli jews have been brainwashed since birth, 10,000-word essays aren't needed. Avigail Abarbanel, an "escaped" Israeli jew, has done an incredible job of countering the zionist narrative. She is having a weekly book discussion you can join. https://open.substack.com/pub/avigail/p/book-club-on-palestine-launch-meeting
But Muslims taught to want to kill Jews since birth aren’t brainwashed?🙄🙄🙄
It’s the opposite of that. Zionists have been stealing and murdering Palestinians for over 70 years.
Palestine is not a country. The Jews actually have a confirmed history there. And Israel has offered a 2 state solution multiple times and tried to make peace. But the only solution Muslims will accept is “The Final Solution”. Why didn’t any Muslim countries take in the Palestinians? Because if they did, they wouldn’t have an excuse for trying to destroy Israel.
Not according to ISIS, Boko Haram and the Iranian Mullahs, silly!
Not according to the Iranian mullahs, silly!
When I was working with the student encampments, I would say things that I thought required a lot of explanation, and the young people would get them instantly. ("American cops are Irish because being Irish in America is different from being Irish in Ireland, the same way that being Jewish in America is different from being Jewish in Israel.") ("Almost all of anti-Palestinian Zionism is cognitive dissonance.") They're so sharp because they aren't shedding a distorting narrative.
Only because you are intellectually challenged and you hang out with people who just regurgitate Iranian propaganda supporting PalestiNazis doesn’t mean any of you is sharp or smart!
Feel free to debunk the content of the points I made. Do you think that being Jewish in Israel is the same as being Jewish in the US? If so, why? Do you think that cognitive dissonance has no role in antii-Palestinisn Zionism? If not, why not? I'm not finding these ad hominems compelling.
By endorsing racist, homophobic and misogynistic islamist, you just support genocidal Iranian mullahs while try to hide your antisemitism behind your thin intellectual veneer!
I got your additional ad hominems. Our discussion is complete.
Don’t flatter yourself…we had no discussion.
Spot on! I’ve recently dropped a multi-year subscription to The Atlantic because of the sequential highly-verbose and Talmudic denials of the obvious atrocities being inflicted on the Palestinian people by the stable of committed Zionists on-staff at that publication. Kudos to the youth for designing an ideal response to the hasbara.
You should subscribe to „Der Stürmer“ oder „Der Völkische Beobachter“, should be right up your alley! But wait, I think they stopped being issued in April 1945. Well, I am sure you find similar propaganda on the dark web! I hear ISIS had a magazine called Dabiq…I am sure you’ll like that!
You’re quite right, and so are the kids. I can give an example I just came across. Someone criticized Israelis for cultural appropriation because they are now trying to steal the keffiyeh as a cultural symbol. Two Israelis were shown wearing blue and white keffiyehs. In response to the scornful and shocked comments on this, a hasbarist chimed in with a long essay on how the keffiyeh was actually Jewish, and the Palestinians had stolen it. Skimming his post, I found the hasbarist was actually saying absolutely nothing. Of course Palestinian Jews wore the keffiyeh centuries ago! So did their Muslim and Christian descendants! European Jews never did. Nor did Israelis, AFAIK, until quite recently. So—reams of text of obfustication based on a couple of falsehoods. That’s what they do.
They're trying to appropriate the watermelon symbol, too. Middle East Eye did a human interest piece on this by interviewing Israelis at a march, where a segment of the crowd had watermelon imagery and said they were "taking it back."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY0wlhhf8EA
It's really, really gross.
And absurd! Palestinians began carrying slices of watermelon when they were forbidden from flying their flag, because the watermelon showed the colors of the Palestinian flag—green, black, red, and white. I have never seen a blue and white watermelon.
Hi Mary
Just for my own personal satisfaction, I purchased a couple of Bic lighters with watermelon designs on them. Although I don’t believe that Bic intended them to be political, how long before the Ziopaths insist that Bic stop producing them? 😂
and the keys to their houses too! luckily only zionist believe their own propaganda these days
So terrible! Like Dirty Dancing, when Babe said, I carried a watermelon! Are you guys real or just Iranian bots?
I'm impressed at how well the younger generations are dealing with all the crap that evil hasbara-spouting douchebags like this Flayton person puts out. I'm not sure at age 16 or 20 or even 40 I would have had the presence of mind to deal so swiftly and accurately with the propaganda. I would have wanted to argue and argue and argue and get in the last word. But the "I'm not reading all that" response sounds like an excellent coping mechanism to deal with these genocide-enablers. Thanks, "Kids"! Oh, and FREE PALESTINE!!!
"I'm not sure at age 16 or 20 or even 40 I would have had the presence of mind ..." - it depends on who surrounds you. If you have a mentor figure you trust who's indeed wise you have an opportunity to develop that presence of mind. Among current youngsters there's no lack of dummies and bimbos that have some perverted figures as their idols. The ones you refer to likely have better mentor figures, as there are more ways (online) to run into proper ones.
My wise father taught me to never trust the Amerikkkan regime.
He was an immigrant to this country but I believe he always regretted it; he often spoke longingly of the “old country”.
Many do, the problem is many old countries went to shit too. So it's really like one is trapped.
RB, I wonder: is there any truly just and decent place in this world in which to live?
My father was from a minuscule nation which 99% of Amerikkkans couldn’t find on a map. I’ve often thought about what it would be like to live there. Hint; it’s a Mediterranean country.
"decent place in this world" - in short, I don't think so. "The grass is always greener ..." has and will always be true. Why it often seems that and people constantly fall for it - could be expanded upon but this is not a suitable format for essays.
However, it might make sense for one to return to one's roots so to speak. With all the problems of the old country one has innate affiliation with the place and hence some sense of vigor that one can be more useful and apply themselves fully there. Since it's _yours_ in a sense. There's a Russian saying: где родился, там и пригодился (one's useful where one's born) - which could be expanded for "where one's ancestors came from".
Thanks for your input, RB 🙂
Why did he immigrate? Was he a loser in his own country or was his country a shithole?
Fuck you. He came here not knowing a word of English, for OPPORTUNITY. He was a successful businessman and we lived in our city’s best neighborhood. I had private school, riding lessons, always new clothes; because of him I grew up privileged.
He was also fluent in four languages. Are YOU, fucking loser?
If we're trapped, then we better start fighting our way out then. Down with the corrupt regimes of the West and FREE PALESTINE!