So many mornings I am waking up confronted with more and worse ‘Israeli’ devastation and death and when I see your new article, Caitlin, your words resonate my feelings and thoughts. It’s as if you were a little ahead having written mine down for me already.
The same with the feeling of hate today. I have felt outrage and horror and deepest disgust, but not hate. I was proud on that. I didn’t want to be like the Israelis on the videos spitting their hatred against the Palestinians out loud.
But I am starting to hate them, I can’t help it. It’s a racist murderous, mentally very sick gang of thieves and liars.
Thank you. You expressed the words I was trying to come up with.
I don’t like the feelings I have towards Israel, but I’m not the one doing the things that lead me to feel this way.
I saw a video of Israelis celebrating the death of the Hezbollah leader and thought about how they would feel if the world celebrated the deaths of the people dancing outside the Gaza concentration camp.
Hard disagree there. The concept of God can provide cohesion and a source of ethics for a people. Power abuses everything, God included, but the evil isn’t God. It’s men. Plus, as has been so powerfully demonstrated the past 4 years (and turns out much longer than that) people who claim to be science-based, empirical thinkers do a lot of evil as well. Hyper-rationalism and spiritual blindness are what plague the modern west, not God.
I believe in "God" and by no means consider myself superior to anyone. Not saying it is so, but if all God is to me is a place to feel cared for, listened to, and occasionally helped....then why is that so terrible.
It isn't God, it isnt the Bible//Book/Or Koran, the problem is the man who uses those words for their empowerment vs what they are meant for.
Do you feel you are closer to “god” for beLIEving in it and therefore deserving of being “saved” to an eternity in “heaven” while non-believers suffer eternal hellfire and damnation for not beLIEving in the “god” you do?
you asked “Not saying it is so, but if all God is to me is a place to feel cared for, listened to, and occasionally helped....then why is that so terrible.”. I respond…If that is not so, why would you suggest it might be that “god” “is a place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped”? Why would you make your faith look less than it is? What makes you feel that talking to a nothing phantom means you are being “listened to”? If you are only “occasionally helped”, what makes you think it is the hand of an apparently utterly indifferent “god” and not just random happenstance? “Why is that so terrible?” you ask. Because every “god” of every religion insists they are the only true god and their way is the only way and those who don’t believe in it are doomed. A place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped should be with a friend not an invisible phantom who may occasionally help. A therapists office is place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped. A therapists office is also a good place for someone who thinks they are occasionally being helped by phantoms.
Actually, atheists in general view themselves as superior to the "ignorant masses". Humanity sucks with or without religion. You are a great example of that. You suck.
So in your view it would be the gods of other religions that are the root of all evil. But your god and only your god is good. But you don’t/can’t/won’t see the evil in that way of thinking? Because your god-the only real god-is good. As compared to the others.
All beLIEf in a “god” is the root of all evil. Every act of good, mercy and kindness credited to a “god” and every act of evil attributed to a “devil” can be directly tracked to the hands, heart and mind of mankind or to the often cruel and utterly indifferent hand of fate.
Yes I have studied other religions. Every religion insists their “god” is the only real one. But I’ll bet you know that yours is the only real one. How is insisting that your god is the only real god not the root of all evil?
Not sure if it's the root of all evil, but it certainly is a foundational myth. As Alan Watts pointed out 50 years ago, the various religious books, especially the Torah/Old Testament, are the most dangerous books in the world.
I agree with your conclusion, with which you began your statement. This is the part that is important. How one gets to that conclusion, apparently there are multiple ways. Some may be religious, others not.
that is indeed an important goal of all the depraved actions of empire: drag the resistance down to their level, post-hoc justifying their previous provocations and employing the advantage of their mastery of their trump card: a showdown of extreme violence, wiping the slate clean and memory-holing all previous crimes.
You hate Zionism, not Jews, and that's OK! It's not great to hate, and perhaps we can learn a more enlightened attitude, but right now hatred for the Zionists seems perfectly apt. After all, they hate us, as well as the evil rogues, fools, imposters and other charlatans who actually support them!
Thank you, Occi. I don’t know what you’re trying to tell me. No, I can hardly imagine to live next to people who have slaughtered and expulsed mine from their land for decades. I’m all too familiar with the horrifying videos of the Israeli government and soldiers and citizens. The settlers are the worst species of Zionist Jews Western societies could possibly get rid off. And I get an idea of their sick minds myself when I get viral hate messages as well as actual letters threatening they’d come after me and a still bleeding slaughtered mouse in my (physical) letter box. I’ve resisted hate, but I feel the changes Caitlin has described.
Maybe we should hate evil. We just should not go around murdering people we consider to be evil. We need to come up with something else to do with them besides killing them. Every person on this earth started out as a beautiful baby. But the brainwashing and creation of ugliness started right away.
We could imprison the evil-doers and try to rehabilitate them so they could stop thinking that genocide is acceptable. For the tough cases, we might just have to keep them locked up for life for the good of the community.
Kris Kristofferson is dead at 88. I just learned this about him:
Kristofferson's political stand helped ensure that his name received a black mark within the show-business establishment, as he said, "Particularly in LA, I found a considerable lack of work after doing concerts for the Palestinian children and for a couple of gigs with Vanessa Redgrave and if that's the way it has to be, that's the way it has to be. If you support human rights, you gotta support them everywhere."
"Good westerners don’t start off hating Israel, but, if they are truly good, they end up hating Israel. "
True. I was lost in the lies and propaganda at first, but very quickly the racist utterings of the Israeli people and the sadistic mass murdering actions of the IDF tipped me over from a neutral position into a complete and utter disgust with and severe loathing of Izrealhell. "By their fruits you shall know them" and their fruit is rotten to the core.
Probably the best thing I learned this past year is that Zionism is a political ideology and has nothing to do with the religion of Judaism. And that Hebrew is a modern language created practically from scratch in the 1920s in order to make Zionist Ashkenazi Jews seem more "Semitic" (when genetically they are not). Theirs is an elaborate hoax to steal land and resources from the indigenous people.
Actually, Hebrew is the ancient language of the Israelites and found in the Old Testament. But the people of the Hebrew language were eliminated after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. So Hebrew itself was a defunct language until revived by the Zionist ideology in the 1920s.
My interpretation is that the actual religion of Judaism has been hijacked by Zionism. The problem is that unlike Islam, where maybe a couple of percent of followers have been hijacked by Wahhabism, it appears that Zionism has hijacked maybe 80 percent or more of followers of Judaism. To me, this is just more proof of the frightening power of propaganda, indoctrination and cults. What must be most critically examined is how this evil ideology came to hold almost complete sway over the entire western power structures (political, commercial, media, religious, academic, bureaucratic). One could argue that this has all been baked into European societies and their colonial offshoots since the 15th century.
And what is Christian Zionism? Please recall that there are 10s of millions of Christian Zionists-- likely many are real antisemites -- but they are rabid supporters of Israel. One organization of them -- CUFI -- Christians United for Israel, alone has 10 million members, and so much money they have given funds to AIPAC. Once again proving that it is Zionists who are the enemy and support this genocide, not The Jews, as in all Jews, even though yes, many, and most Israelis. But there have ALWAYS been Jewish antizionists, Jewish dissenters and protestors, against Israeli settler colonialist policy, and we get shunned and sometimes violently abused by Zionists, and then get to take in good old antisemitism and crap from people questioning whether there was a genocide by the Nazis, which of course also killed millions of other people, like 500,000 Roma and Sinti in Europe. Yeah, it happened. The question is not whether it happened, but how what did happen has been used, demeaned, weaponized, to indoctrinate people into Zionism. So, please, the issue if stopping the genocide, ending the occupation, and trying to stop this regional war, this genocidal policy now aiming to do to Lebanon what has so far been done to the Palestinians. And a whole lot of antizionist jews -- some like me, antizionist for many many years and never a zionist at all; and others more recently coming to understanding -- are staunch allies of the Palestinians, and very organized to keep protesting and increasing support for boycott divestment and sanctions, BDS movement. So work with them, rather than putting forward this crap about the holocaust not happening, or wondering if all Jews deserved it...That's some disgusting old nazi-kkk sh-t, and doesn't help bring Palestine peace and their own land.
Seems to me the Zionist programming has gotten us all stuck in a loop. One side points out that Jews have pretty much become a psychotic society, and then the other side says “see, they hate us,” and double down on the psychosis. All of that prevents awakening and perpetuates all of this bullshit and bloodshed. Somewhere long ago, insular and brilliant people from the steppe (not the Levant) were treated horribly by the morons around them, who lacked the intellectual power to love the other. And that started this horrible cascade of events and caused good people to seek the protection of monsters. We need to fix that.
Sorry. Secular Jewish antizionist since I’m a teenager and learned about imperialism, Iz weapons sales to one after another authoritarian regime, and the occupation in apartheid Iz. Been threatened, assaulted, lost jobs, publishing fir my work, shunned by family members and “friends” for pro-Palestinian activism, etc, so for the real antisemites in this thread as opposed to the beautiful people in pain, grief, rage and protest against the Iz geno-c , likely supported by yr government, except for a few, leave good anti-Zio Js the Ef alone, and sort yr little fascist sh**t out. If you love to hate an entire group in spite of actual evidence (believe it or not, not all Jews are religious boys in Jerusalem…), I tend to wonder as I have often seen — what else is cooking, since REAL antisemitism usually goes with other kinds of hatreds, racism, misogyny, anti-Roma crap, etc.
antizio Jews will continue to protest and work in many ways against not only Iz monstrous geno, but the funding monstrous governments that love this horror and make it all possible.
And as much as I wish I were a rich anything, and as hard to believe for minds made small by one hatred or another- shocker but not all Js are wealthy! Done with this shite ( honoring the beautiful activist anti-Zio Irish!), back to work.
Obviously, you know nothing of the Zundel Trials that took place in the 1980s, or the opening of the Soviet archives post collapse. The Holocaust narrative is the basis of the justification for Israel's existence. The only "evidence" to support the narrative are confessions obtained by torture and hearsay testimony. Do you really believe people were steamed to death, boiled to death, crowded onto steel platforms, immersed in water then electrocuted? How about being made to climb trees then have others chop down the trees so that when the tree fell, it fell on those cutting killing them and those in the trees? My personal favourite is a machine that masturbated people to death. You can find the above in the Nuremberg Trials transcripts at Yale's Avalon Project.
Blow up the myth of the Holocaust™ (made in he USSR) and you blow up the "reason" for the Zionist's justification for Israel. That helps the Palestinians.
as long as you take the time to discern between the 10-20% and the 90-80%, that seems ok. i don't think there's much more consolation in being discriminated against for being in the 10% bracket in stead of the 99% bracket.
Zionism was always a heretical rejection of the Jewish faith in G-d. It's popular TODAY... But that speaks to the power of unlimited Rothschild financial backing, and Hasbarah Propaganda. Prior to 1967 it was an ideology that was distinctly in the minority amongst world Jewry.
It was started by Atheists and Assimilationists, who wanted to create a "New" Jew - that reflects the murderous nationalism that was so common in the late 19th Century. They allied themselves with Anti-Jewish Bigots, Imperialists and Luciferian Occultists, to achieve their goals. Their cause is a Rebellion against the Sentence imposed by G-d - whom they honor foremost as a Realtor.
There were less genocidal and fascistic trends in the Zionist ideology, at one point. Now, they've been sidelined. At the root is a belief in an Ethno-Supremacist specialness - which inevitably lead to Judeo-Nazism. https://imgflip.com/i/8oomvh
It feels incompatible with living as equals with anyone else.
Wahabi salafism is the religion encouraged by the British and American Empire... They use it to recruit and deploy a 'plausibly deniable' secret army to advance their global monopolar Hegemonic goals.
The most antisemitic thing in the world is Israel itself. To say that Jewish people must have their own ethnostate so they can be safe, is antisemetic because you’re implying that Jewish people cannot be safe anywhere else. If that were true, Jewish people wouldn’t be living all over the world, including Canada. And if Jewish people want to hold on to this ridiculous idea that they must maintain their precious ethnostate so that they can have a safe haven, then perhaps we need to send every single last Jewish person back to Israel and keep them there. That is what they argue for after all.
Ilan Pappe has shown in his most recent book “Lobbying for Zionism on both sides of the Atlantic” the zionism came out of the fever dreams of Christian Evangelicals in 18th Century Europe and picked up by Herzl in the 19th Century. Sure there are oligarchs in North America and Europe which happen to be Jewish and who provide financial and lobbying support for the zionist project. Just as there are powerful Evangelical organizations such as Christians United for Israel which do the same. Finally there are many non-zionist Jews, secular and religious, which want nothing to do with a racist and violent apartheid state like Israel. Israel is primarily a partner of North American and European elites to maintain their hegemony over the region. The genocidal violence of Israel against the Palestinians and now the Lebanese is due to this fact and not due to some supposed negative and inherent characteristics of Jews and Judaism. Remember both anti-semites and fanatical zionists make the same false claim that Israel represents all Jews.
After being exposed to young Jewish boys in Jerusalem who openly mocked non Jews, it became obvious that the root of the problem is indoctrination at such an early age that change in mindset is nearly impossible.
well, you could be an evangelical christian or an israeli hasbara operative (day time job hunting antisemitism on the internet, night time hobby planting it on the internet).:-)
According to some , if the official reports of 16,000 children being slaughtered by IDF bombs is true, and adding another 21,000 children reported missing, plus a few thousand children who were not reported as missing simply because their parents were also missing, the total number of children killed in Gaza could surpass 40,000. If so, it would apparently rival the number of children who died from both the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What else is there to say????????
That’s an impossible dream. Humans will never change. They have been fighting each other from the beginning. The only thing that changes is the ways in which they kill themselves. With the advances in technology all that we are seeing is more sophisticated ways to kill one another. The best thing that can happen for the planet and all its no human inhabitants, is for this cancer known as humans to be eradicated.
I kind of view humans as an experiment in consciousness which may not succeed. Do I think it was merely accidental? At this point in time, I lean toward, no it's not just all an accident. Do I view humans as all evil, no, I think there is some good as well.
But who knows. You and I as individuals will soon be facing our mortality soon enough. And then what? What was it all about for us, you and I? What does any of it matter once we ourselves are gone? I'm not trying to be "selfish" here, just stating a plain fact: in order for existence to have any meaning to you, you actually have to exist.
I think it's all an astonishing mystery and of course I hope for continuance of consciousness after death. I think anything is possible. It's very strange being human and learning so much astounding science...
It's so tragic what we've done. But of course goodness and great accomplishments along the way too.
I entertain that thought a lot these days. All of this inversionism, orchestrated from on high, basically serves as a scathing indictment of mankind. The money turned us into cannibals and warlords, and while it’s easy to hate the money, almost all of us play along without much, or any, pangs of conscience. I fear this might be the point of the whole exercise. If there is no light, then the dark will erase everything, as it should, they would argue. We’ve reached end stage decay.
I used to think the two-state solution was the way to go. Then I decided that one secular state with equal rights for all, and no special privileges for anyone on the basis of religion, was the answer. Now I think the complete dissolution of Israel and the scattering of Israeli Zionists back to the regions where they came from is the only answer. Israel has one great talent and that is creating profoundly racist, bloodthirsty psychopaths who must be moved to countries where they are forced by the pressure of the communities they are in to comply with basic laws, or be imprisoned if they can't. The creation of Israel was a terrible mistake that must be undone completely.
I still suspect Khazaria (aka Ukraine) plays a role somehow. Unclear at present. Maybe Israel is destroyed, and Zelensky and Blackrock welcome the Khazars home. Their true return home. Even if it’s all theater, I pray a new David emerges among them and that this story takes a positive turn.
You bring up a good point, just how does the Jewish Autonomous Oblast manage to remain in its allotted space? How have the people there managed to live with their neighbors without having to clear out the neighbours? What is its position on what is happening right now in Israel?
Technically the shattering and destruction of Zionism cancer as a prominent ideology doesn't preclude the establishment of a truly secular and humane society within Palestine.
The trick, of course, is somehow shattering the system that created Zionism in the first place.
I wonder how they can see their own evil actions when the USA is actually sending them multibillions to keep doing what they're doing??? It is horrifying that we are enabling, even encouraging their psychopathy.
I don't hate Israel, though I hate what they're doing. Just as I don't hate the United States, which is where I live, but I hate what we're doing to support the things that I hate that Israel is doing.
One doesn’t have to hate to want to stop something or someone. Hate is that emotion that would destroy both sides, the hater and the hated.
There are other emotions, such as righteousness anger that can do a better job. We need to find a way, the ways, to stop these bad actors, as if our lives depended on it, because it does.
It is complicated. But so much slack has been given that many are almost literally at the end of their rope. Immediate ad hom ugliness from armies of fact-free Hasbara trolls is encountered in response to any fact-based public reality check of Israeli behaviour. It exhausts patience and tempers or mitigates natural empathy and sympathy for what some Jews have endured in the past. There appears to be no sense of fair play and the evidence that Israel lies about pretty much everything accumulates daily. Even without addressing the role of Jews in creating their fraught relationship with others, it is clear that the government of Israel has zero empathy for their congeners, the Palestinians and their families. Closer to home the Israel lobby has been seditious in cadging billions from American taxpayers (more than $400 billion) while American domestic fires blaze. This has led to the present ludicrous situation where begging Israel’s foreign reserves dwarf those of Americans per cap. Yet they’re still finagling more money. George Carlin’s comments on religion are evoked.
Most are, but unfortunately you cannot underestimate the power of propaganda. In particular the propaganda about the oppression of Jews, actually it is more than propaganda, it is indoctrination
Perhaps an even better choice would be “The Long Death: The Last Days of the Plains Indian,” by Ralph Andrist. At least from my experience. I read Andrist’s first.
Just like we were raised to beLIEve that columbus was a hero who discovered this country instead of a lost pirate who thought he was somewhere else and hunted the native indigenous people for sport before gifting them smallpox infected blankets to commit genocide.
Hollywood IS one of the most important instruments of propaganda, it comes ahead of mainstream media and possibly ahead of school education/indoctrination:
This is what globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski, to as the threat of “global political awakening.” The problematic of alternative media’s impact on Western mass media’s shaping of the narrative, was eloquently expressed by Mr. Brzezinski speaking at Chatham House, London in 2008:
"In earlier times it was easier to control a million people, than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people."
This is what globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski, to as the threat of “global political awakening.” The problematic of alternative media’s impact on Western mass media’s shaping of the narrative, was eloquently expressed by Mr. Brzezinski speaking at Chatham House, London in 2008:
"In earlier times it was easier to control a million people, than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people."
Very simple: do you see the same humanity in someone who doesn’t look, speak, live like you, as you see in yourself? Do you see the innocence in *their* children like you see in your own?
There is nothing wrong with advocating for 15-minute cities. There is also nothing wrong with "gender neutral" bathrooms. Most public toilets are what you call gender neutral, meaning that there is one bathroom and it is for everyone's use. Your associating these things with an instinct to murder is absolute bollocks and reveals a nasty stain of racism in you.
Like yourself most of us Westerners are trapped by an evil oligarchy. Some people see Immigrants as either a threat or sub human. I see most people as wanting a better life for themselves and their children. I defy anybody to look at a child, any child, and not see perfection. While I don't profess to know the answers I do know that hate is the biggest enemy to mankind. Unfortunately, in one way or the other, We all at some point fall into the trap of hatred. This is the game plan of the evil doers that run this world. They rub their hands together in glee when we hate and kill each other. I wish you peace.
Someone with malice towards none unless they are out to kill, maim or injure others. No racism, sexism or any other form of bigotry. Good human beings regard other human beings as equals.
I don't have one - that's the point. It is subjective. There are many definitions and different groups of people adhere to different ones. Also, the definition is constantly evolving with time and history...
Read the history. Since its foundation, Israel has adopted a scorched-earth policy with regard to the original inhabitants of Palestine. Israel is no better than were the English during the Duke of Cumberland's highland clearances post-Battle of Culloden. 'Clearing' is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple, and has been explicitly advocated by a number of high-ranking Israeli politicians and IDF officers. The policy, with all its horrors and violence, has majority support among Jewish citizens of Israeli. Most critics are not antisemitic and don't give a tinker's damn about their Jewishness or otherwise; it's simply the fact of the acts carried out by their government, with their support, that elicit the hatred Caitlin talks about.
Any reading of the histories of Zionism and Israel make it very clear there is absolutely no comparison with other nations calling themselves Western democracies and founded through colonisation. It is dishonest to say that there is. Neither the US, Canada or Australia were founded on religious bigotry, elitist racism, the belief the native people were subhuman and must be exterminated or expelled.
It is a copout to dismiss Ziorael as a settler colonial example because it stands alone, unique in its elitism, racism, bigotry and political and religious fanaticism.
Never in the US, Canada, Australia or other such nations have there been policies of genocidal ethnic cleansing as Israel has had. Certainly mistakes were made, but it was centuries before Israel was invented, and in general, the goal was not extermination as Israel has always had, but assimilation into the then modern world.
Sure, some people today think assimilation is a dirty word but since most humans want the best the world can offer, we can forgive people in the past for thinking that assimilation into the then modern world was preferable.
I'm sorry. Did you just claim that the violent "let's genocide and drive away all the 'savages' from this divinely given promised land" colonies were not founded on colonialist values?
The USA's very founding was a rejection of co-existence with native americans in favor of mass slaughter and extermination.
Do not *dare* downplay the 200+ year nightmare that has taken place on the north American continent.
I am mixed race . My parents were born in S.Africa and I in London . My (white) father got a lot of kudos (politically) for marrying my Asian mother - altho' he pretended to his family and friends that my mother was just a mistress/housekeeper . I know from personal experience that 'mixing races' is not a simple wholly beneficial process eg my younger sister hates Asians because she is not accepted by them here in England . My father passed me off as white and my little sister was effectively hidden from his white relatives . So his theoretical positiiion was anti-racist ie he was a "good white" . But how he actually behaved....
It seems a sad and strange situation given the high rate of mixed marriages in the UK. I do not believe your situation is in any way the norm or common.
Racists do not intermarry. We know that from studying history and societies which really do believe in superior and inferior groups.
Racist men are often keen on sex with non-white women and will go so far as to marry them . Family is less important to whites than to us and so keeping a marriage secret is entirely possible . Sorry I have come across many similar cases here in England and cannot agree that my family is so unusual . When you say racists do not intermarry - why are you so sure ? Or do you mean that my father was therefore not racist ? My mother blamed his mother for his racist behaviour because his theoretical position was , of course politically correct . Most people do indeed blame my mother and feel that she should have been grateful . I did not know that there is a high rate of mixed marriages in the UK - but then it would not be exactly be advertised !
Can you tell me how you define white? I would be fascinated to learn how the colour of skin has such an effect, as you claim.
In my experience, and I have lived in a dozen countries, Africa - four countries, India, Europe, North America, Australia, I have found all humans care about family to the same degree.
When I lived in India people often said to me that Australians did not care about family as Indians did. Most of course had never been to Australia so how would they know? What they meant was Indians live as extended families and they took that as caring when it was simply financial necessity. Australians no longer live in extended families but they care just as much about family.
I saw and heard enough about life in Indian extended families to know that they were not necessarily nice or kind places to be.
From what I saw in India, probably the most racist place on the planet, racists do not intermarry. Same for South Africa when I lived there. The UK as an example has high rates of intermarriage as does Australia, which makes each relatively non-racist.
I don't know your family situation so cannot comment. If your mother and father had a bad relationship it was not about racism. Lots of people are in bad marriages and that applies if they are white, black, brown, yellow or brindle.
It sounds as if your parents had an unhappy marriage and that is difficult for any child. I have lived in London a few times and understand it is not representative but I have also travelled a lot in the UK and all I know is mixed couples are not uncommon in ways they certainly are in South Africa and many parts of the US.
Sex is such a complicated issue and such a powerful biological drive that I do not believe racism comes into it. A true racist would never have sex with someone he or she considered to be inferior, dirty, or subhuman. During war they might rape anyone that they can but that has been human nature for millennia.
I have no doubt in war when people, particularly men, face death, their unconscious desire, or need, to survive in some way, the desire to feel alive as one does in the sexual act, plays a big part. I am not condoning, just explaining.
From everything I know about human nature and psychology I do not believe racists intermarry. Mixed marriages may well be more challenged than others and I can think of many reasons why that would be, but it is not about racism but rather a clash of cultures.
Yes I am saying that. If you study the histories and I know Australia well and a bit about the US but doubt Canada was very different to the US, the earliest colonists were a mix of persecuted Christians and convicts sent as labourerers.
I think you need to look at things within the context of the time and not retrofit modern values to the past. By all means if you can provide proof that the English Government and Crown sent written orders to the first colonists to Canada and what became the US, that they should slaughter and drive away all the savages, I am happy to admit I am in error.
From my study of the histories the original plans were to work with the native peoples and to bring the Christian word of God to them. Again, understand this in the context of the times.
Yes violence broke out in North America but then the many different Indian tribes were violent with each other and often at war and yes, everyone wants to defend their patch of turf. There were instances were Indian groups worked closely with the settlers and other instances where they tried to kill them. Pretty much how relations between the Indian tribes worked. Some got on, some did not. Some were peaceful, some were violent. Just like all humans.
And sorry mate, I have read enough American history, perhaps with a less jaundiced eye, to know that your hyperbolic claim of a 200+ nightmare is as much fantasy as fact.
Do you know how Polynesians, Asians, Africans and the American Indian tribes, originally from the Sino-Russian steppes, treated the people they came across as they migrated? They killed them and as often as not ate them. Win-win. Get rid of those in your way and have an easy time with no hunting for a while.
When the Maoris invaded New Zealand a few centuries before the British they killed and ate those they found. In fact they kept some caged up for future consumption. Sort of primitive fast food if you like.
Beware the danger of nailing your modern beliefs to the past. Please provide historical facts to prove this claim:
The USA's very founding was a rejection of co-existence with native americans in favor of mass slaughter and extermination.
The Maori did not kill and eat earlier settlers in Aotearoa New Zealand. There were no earlier settlers. The Maori were the first settlers of the main islands. The genocide of the Moriori, who inhabited the Chatham Islands, took place after European settlers had already arrived in Aotearoa New Zealand, and with the assistance of a corrupt white captain who provided the transport to the Chatham Islands.
You present the rewritten history view. There were Moriori on NZ when the Maoris arrived. Why would there not be given the richness of the country. There were some on the Chatham Islands but it takes a particular level of brainwashing to believe that there they were on Chatham and yet NZ was empty???????
And the Maoris, ever the murderers, took advantage of British guns and ships and they sailed to Chatham to knock off the last of them. Oh dear, a corrupt white captain who sailed the ship was responsible for the Maoris murdering the Moriori? I bet you have seen pigs fly as well.
There is no archeological evidence whatsoever that there were any other people in Aotearoa New Zealand before the Maori. The Chatham Islands are a long way from the main islands, something you clearly do not understand. They are even in a different time zone, by thirty minutes. The Moriori had a unique and distinctive culture separate from the Maori.
The Maori were not "ever the murderers"; that is racist hate speech.
I did not say the white captain was responsible, that is a pathetic strawman on your part.
The myth that the Moriori were on the mainland before the Maori arrived was a piece of racist nonsense invented to justify "superior" races wiping out "inferior" races and therefore justifying genocide of indigenous people in the USA, Canada, Australia and Aotearoa. There is absolutely absolutely nothing in either Maori or Moriori oral histories (and yes, some Moriori are still extant) to support it. All the archeological evidence points to the Maori oral histories of reaching Aotearoa New Zealand and finding it empty to be essentially correct.
If you knew anything about ocean currents in the Pacific you would understand that it is perfectly plausible that the Moriori never reached the mainland.
Do you really believe the U.S. Government did not attempt to exterminate the Plains Tribes after the Civil War? While the U.S. Cavalry was exterminating men, women and children their motto was "nits make lice" as they murdered children.
Hmm, I live in NYC where anti Genocide rallies are often mostly Jewish. And I grew up in the South where Jews could not live in my whites-only neighborhood, or most segregated white neighborhoods; this did not end in 1965, that was merely when the lawsuits began. So, Amerikkka is complicated. However, genocide is not that complicated nowadays with cell phones; the State of Israel is currently committed genocide; Israel began as a settler colonial State; thus Israel does not deserve to occupy Gaza or the West Bank—including Gaza’s considerable oil they currently steal.
I hope all of you will take the time to hear the interview with Gideon Levy on Chris Hedges Report. Levy is an honest man who understands how dehumanizing this occupation and war is. He said it was now against the law to express sympathy for the death of Palestinian children.
All anyone has to do to see this war is fueled by pure hatred is look at Gaza. It has nothing to do with the Holocaust or the diaspora but has everything to do with cruelty.
Some of us who have known the true nature of Israel for most of our lives are way past that stage by now. Beware of hatred, for it can easily turn on oneself. Beware of dehumanizing the Israelis, for if one does that then one becomes like them, and surely no one wants THAT!
There is only one way most Westerners can effectively oppose Israel, and it's an old way--boycott. Support your local BDS movement. Boycott the corporations which invest in Israel at every opportunity. Remember the old death by a thousand cuts. Buy coffee other than Starbucks. Drive by and not through that McDonald's. Tell your local government to drop those bloody Israeli bonds.
We can do this, and there's nothing the Israelis can do to stop us. Boycotts work.
Caitlin, not only Westerners but the "other" as well empathised with what Jews suffered and endured under the German Nazis, ending in the Holocaust, though they had no part in that inferno and weren't guilty of pogroms or even passive acceptance. I know why you singled out Westerners, but I would add to your excellent newsletter that "the other" empathised even more so than Westerners because they have gone through holocausts of their own inflicted on them by the same Westerners.
There will always be good human beings - Western or non-Western - who have the compassion and wisdom to feel the pain of others. As you have pointed out " good Westerners" have lived and learned to empathise and now are horrified by the ruthlessness of the Zionist regime.
The irony is that the formally victimised Jews are now bent on a genocidal revenge from the innocents, not from the ones who did them harm. They have turned into tyrants themselves.
Yes, we have all known good Jews but seriously decreasing in number as the genocide goes on, day after day, and their support for Israel increases. They do not seem ever to be able to see Israel as it always has been, straight after WWII (the settlers and their crimes); they do not seem to regard the Nazi-like killing as anything that could have been avoided and they do regard the rest off the world as second class citizens. That level of arrogance will never change.
The greatest crime is that they enjoy the deaths of others, the more the merrier.
As Caitlin said, "an entire society is indoctrinated from birth into viewing their neighbours as mindless savages". As we have all seen the 'mindless savages' are Israeli born and bred, now never likely to change.
That is now the way they are. As a race, they are finished, their actions clearly show their inhumanity and who in their right mind would want to share a land with people like that.
So many mornings I am waking up confronted with more and worse ‘Israeli’ devastation and death and when I see your new article, Caitlin, your words resonate my feelings and thoughts. It’s as if you were a little ahead having written mine down for me already.
The same with the feeling of hate today. I have felt outrage and horror and deepest disgust, but not hate. I was proud on that. I didn’t want to be like the Israelis on the videos spitting their hatred against the Palestinians out loud.
But I am starting to hate them, I can’t help it. It’s a racist murderous, mentally very sick gang of thieves and liars.
Thank you. You expressed the words I was trying to come up with.
I don’t like the feelings I have towards Israel, but I’m not the one doing the things that lead me to feel this way.
I saw a video of Israelis celebrating the death of the Hezbollah leader and thought about how they would feel if the world celebrated the deaths of the people dancing outside the Gaza concentration camp.
Please, never become that which you despise. You have to catch yourself, as I do.
Because, I love God MORE. Good souls are better…we must be better, because love is the only answer for the “human condition”.
beLIEf in “god” is the root of all evil.
Hard disagree there. The concept of God can provide cohesion and a source of ethics for a people. Power abuses everything, God included, but the evil isn’t God. It’s men. Plus, as has been so powerfully demonstrated the past 4 years (and turns out much longer than that) people who claim to be science-based, empirical thinkers do a lot of evil as well. Hyper-rationalism and spiritual blindness are what plague the modern west, not God.
The concept of “god” allows the beLIEver to consider themselves superior/closer to “god” than the unbelievers. That is the root of all evil.
I believe in "God" and by no means consider myself superior to anyone. Not saying it is so, but if all God is to me is a place to feel cared for, listened to, and occasionally helped....then why is that so terrible.
It isn't God, it isnt the Bible//Book/Or Koran, the problem is the man who uses those words for their empowerment vs what they are meant for.
Do you feel you are closer to “god” for beLIEving in it and therefore deserving of being “saved” to an eternity in “heaven” while non-believers suffer eternal hellfire and damnation for not beLIEving in the “god” you do?
Then why call it “god”?
you asked “Not saying it is so, but if all God is to me is a place to feel cared for, listened to, and occasionally helped....then why is that so terrible.”. I respond…If that is not so, why would you suggest it might be that “god” “is a place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped”? Why would you make your faith look less than it is? What makes you feel that talking to a nothing phantom means you are being “listened to”? If you are only “occasionally helped”, what makes you think it is the hand of an apparently utterly indifferent “god” and not just random happenstance? “Why is that so terrible?” you ask. Because every “god” of every religion insists they are the only true god and their way is the only way and those who don’t believe in it are doomed. A place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped should be with a friend not an invisible phantom who may occasionally help. A therapists office is place to feel cared for, listened to and occasionally helped. A therapists office is also a good place for someone who thinks they are occasionally being helped by phantoms.
People use religion to justify atrocities but the people that do that don’t believe in anything but themselves
Actually, atheists in general view themselves as superior to the "ignorant masses". Humanity sucks with or without religion. You are a great example of that. You suck.
Actually, atheists don’t think we are superior to the “ignorant masses”. Just to ignorant sewer filth like you.
So in your view it would be the gods of other religions that are the root of all evil. But your god and only your god is good. But you don’t/can’t/won’t see the evil in that way of thinking? Because your god-the only real god-is good. As compared to the others.
Have you studied other religions?
In answer to this, I do not believe any "God" is the root of all evil.
All beLIEf in a “god” is the root of all evil. Every act of good, mercy and kindness credited to a “god” and every act of evil attributed to a “devil” can be directly tracked to the hands, heart and mind of mankind or to the often cruel and utterly indifferent hand of fate.
Yes I have studied other religions. Every religion insists their “god” is the only real one. But I’ll bet you know that yours is the only real one. How is insisting that your god is the only real god not the root of all evil?
Not sure if it's the root of all evil, but it certainly is a foundational myth. As Alan Watts pointed out 50 years ago, the various religious books, especially the Torah/Old Testament, are the most dangerous books in the world.
Wouldn’t “the most dangerous books in the world” that have had so much influence in/on culture/society qualify it as the root of all evil?
I agree with your conclusion, with which you began your statement. This is the part that is important. How one gets to that conclusion, apparently there are multiple ways. Some may be religious, others not.
that is indeed an important goal of all the depraved actions of empire: drag the resistance down to their level, post-hoc justifying their previous provocations and employing the advantage of their mastery of their trump card: a showdown of extreme violence, wiping the slate clean and memory-holing all previous crimes.
You hate Zionism, not Jews, and that's OK! It's not great to hate, and perhaps we can learn a more enlightened attitude, but right now hatred for the Zionists seems perfectly apt. After all, they hate us, as well as the evil rogues, fools, imposters and other charlatans who actually support them!
Thank you, Occi. I don’t know what you’re trying to tell me. No, I can hardly imagine to live next to people who have slaughtered and expulsed mine from their land for decades. I’m all too familiar with the horrifying videos of the Israeli government and soldiers and citizens. The settlers are the worst species of Zionist Jews Western societies could possibly get rid off. And I get an idea of their sick minds myself when I get viral hate messages as well as actual letters threatening they’d come after me and a still bleeding slaughtered mouse in my (physical) letter box. I’ve resisted hate, but I feel the changes Caitlin has described.
Easy to love goodness but hard not to hate evil. That is the litmus test.
Maybe we should hate evil. We just should not go around murdering people we consider to be evil. We need to come up with something else to do with them besides killing them. Every person on this earth started out as a beautiful baby. But the brainwashing and creation of ugliness started right away.
We could imprison the evil-doers and try to rehabilitate them so they could stop thinking that genocide is acceptable. For the tough cases, we might just have to keep them locked up for life for the good of the community.
Yes,it is Zionists Worldwide, not just Israelis and Jews!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-PmzCOVKsAg
Tons live in Brooklyn NY.
Kris Kristofferson is dead at 88. I just learned this about him:
Kristofferson's political stand helped ensure that his name received a black mark within the show-business establishment, as he said, "Particularly in LA, I found a considerable lack of work after doing concerts for the Palestinian children and for a couple of gigs with Vanessa Redgrave and if that's the way it has to be, that's the way it has to be. If you support human rights, you gotta support them everywhere."
RIPKris
He was a bad ass and one of a kind.
Thank you very much for sharing that. I just read about his death in the NYT.
Wow, bless his soul.
"Good westerners don’t start off hating Israel, but, if they are truly good, they end up hating Israel. "
True. I was lost in the lies and propaganda at first, but very quickly the racist utterings of the Israeli people and the sadistic mass murdering actions of the IDF tipped me over from a neutral position into a complete and utter disgust with and severe loathing of Izrealhell. "By their fruits you shall know them" and their fruit is rotten to the core.
Probably the best thing I learned this past year is that Zionism is a political ideology and has nothing to do with the religion of Judaism. And that Hebrew is a modern language created practically from scratch in the 1920s in order to make Zionist Ashkenazi Jews seem more "Semitic" (when genetically they are not). Theirs is an elaborate hoax to steal land and resources from the indigenous people.
Actually, Hebrew is the ancient language of the Israelites and found in the Old Testament. But the people of the Hebrew language were eliminated after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. So Hebrew itself was a defunct language until revived by the Zionist ideology in the 1920s.
https://euroyankee.substack.com/p/israel-was-built-on-myth-part-ii
Of course nothing she wrote is true. This must be a parody
My interpretation is that the actual religion of Judaism has been hijacked by Zionism. The problem is that unlike Islam, where maybe a couple of percent of followers have been hijacked by Wahhabism, it appears that Zionism has hijacked maybe 80 percent or more of followers of Judaism. To me, this is just more proof of the frightening power of propaganda, indoctrination and cults. What must be most critically examined is how this evil ideology came to hold almost complete sway over the entire western power structures (political, commercial, media, religious, academic, bureaucratic). One could argue that this has all been baked into European societies and their colonial offshoots since the 15th century.
Nailed it !
Zionism is to Judaism what Wahhabism is to Islam.
And what is Christian Zionism? Please recall that there are 10s of millions of Christian Zionists-- likely many are real antisemites -- but they are rabid supporters of Israel. One organization of them -- CUFI -- Christians United for Israel, alone has 10 million members, and so much money they have given funds to AIPAC. Once again proving that it is Zionists who are the enemy and support this genocide, not The Jews, as in all Jews, even though yes, many, and most Israelis. But there have ALWAYS been Jewish antizionists, Jewish dissenters and protestors, against Israeli settler colonialist policy, and we get shunned and sometimes violently abused by Zionists, and then get to take in good old antisemitism and crap from people questioning whether there was a genocide by the Nazis, which of course also killed millions of other people, like 500,000 Roma and Sinti in Europe. Yeah, it happened. The question is not whether it happened, but how what did happen has been used, demeaned, weaponized, to indoctrinate people into Zionism. So, please, the issue if stopping the genocide, ending the occupation, and trying to stop this regional war, this genocidal policy now aiming to do to Lebanon what has so far been done to the Palestinians. And a whole lot of antizionist jews -- some like me, antizionist for many many years and never a zionist at all; and others more recently coming to understanding -- are staunch allies of the Palestinians, and very organized to keep protesting and increasing support for boycott divestment and sanctions, BDS movement. So work with them, rather than putting forward this crap about the holocaust not happening, or wondering if all Jews deserved it...That's some disgusting old nazi-kkk sh-t, and doesn't help bring Palestine peace and their own land.
Seems to me the Zionist programming has gotten us all stuck in a loop. One side points out that Jews have pretty much become a psychotic society, and then the other side says “see, they hate us,” and double down on the psychosis. All of that prevents awakening and perpetuates all of this bullshit and bloodshed. Somewhere long ago, insular and brilliant people from the steppe (not the Levant) were treated horribly by the morons around them, who lacked the intellectual power to love the other. And that started this horrible cascade of events and caused good people to seek the protection of monsters. We need to fix that.
Sorry. Secular Jewish antizionist since I’m a teenager and learned about imperialism, Iz weapons sales to one after another authoritarian regime, and the occupation in apartheid Iz. Been threatened, assaulted, lost jobs, publishing fir my work, shunned by family members and “friends” for pro-Palestinian activism, etc, so for the real antisemites in this thread as opposed to the beautiful people in pain, grief, rage and protest against the Iz geno-c , likely supported by yr government, except for a few, leave good anti-Zio Js the Ef alone, and sort yr little fascist sh**t out. If you love to hate an entire group in spite of actual evidence (believe it or not, not all Jews are religious boys in Jerusalem…), I tend to wonder as I have often seen — what else is cooking, since REAL antisemitism usually goes with other kinds of hatreds, racism, misogyny, anti-Roma crap, etc.
antizio Jews will continue to protest and work in many ways against not only Iz monstrous geno, but the funding monstrous governments that love this horror and make it all possible.
And as much as I wish I were a rich anything, and as hard to believe for minds made small by one hatred or another- shocker but not all Js are wealthy! Done with this shite ( honoring the beautiful activist anti-Zio Irish!), back to work.
Obviously, you know nothing of the Zundel Trials that took place in the 1980s, or the opening of the Soviet archives post collapse. The Holocaust narrative is the basis of the justification for Israel's existence. The only "evidence" to support the narrative are confessions obtained by torture and hearsay testimony. Do you really believe people were steamed to death, boiled to death, crowded onto steel platforms, immersed in water then electrocuted? How about being made to climb trees then have others chop down the trees so that when the tree fell, it fell on those cutting killing them and those in the trees? My personal favourite is a machine that masturbated people to death. You can find the above in the Nuremberg Trials transcripts at Yale's Avalon Project.
Blow up the myth of the Holocaust™ (made in he USSR) and you blow up the "reason" for the Zionist's justification for Israel. That helps the Palestinians.
i didn't know the steaming and tree cutting, etc ... were in the official holocaust narrative.
Non sequitur.
And to evangelical end times profesy, stand with Israel Protestant Christianity!
as long as you take the time to discern between the 10-20% and the 90-80%, that seems ok. i don't think there's much more consolation in being discriminated against for being in the 10% bracket in stead of the 99% bracket.
Zionism was always a heretical rejection of the Jewish faith in G-d. It's popular TODAY... But that speaks to the power of unlimited Rothschild financial backing, and Hasbarah Propaganda. Prior to 1967 it was an ideology that was distinctly in the minority amongst world Jewry.
It was started by Atheists and Assimilationists, who wanted to create a "New" Jew - that reflects the murderous nationalism that was so common in the late 19th Century. They allied themselves with Anti-Jewish Bigots, Imperialists and Luciferian Occultists, to achieve their goals. Their cause is a Rebellion against the Sentence imposed by G-d - whom they honor foremost as a Realtor.
There were less genocidal and fascistic trends in the Zionist ideology, at one point. Now, they've been sidelined. At the root is a belief in an Ethno-Supremacist specialness - which inevitably lead to Judeo-Nazism. https://imgflip.com/i/8oomvh
It feels incompatible with living as equals with anyone else.
Wahabi salafism is the religion encouraged by the British and American Empire... They use it to recruit and deploy a 'plausibly deniable' secret army to advance their global monopolar Hegemonic goals.
You are just a sleazy anti-semite trying to smuggle your way into the struggle for Palestinian rights. Get lost!
The most antisemitic thing in the world is Israel itself. To say that Jewish people must have their own ethnostate so they can be safe, is antisemetic because you’re implying that Jewish people cannot be safe anywhere else. If that were true, Jewish people wouldn’t be living all over the world, including Canada. And if Jewish people want to hold on to this ridiculous idea that they must maintain their precious ethnostate so that they can have a safe haven, then perhaps we need to send every single last Jewish person back to Israel and keep them there. That is what they argue for after all.
Ilan Pappe has shown in his most recent book “Lobbying for Zionism on both sides of the Atlantic” the zionism came out of the fever dreams of Christian Evangelicals in 18th Century Europe and picked up by Herzl in the 19th Century. Sure there are oligarchs in North America and Europe which happen to be Jewish and who provide financial and lobbying support for the zionist project. Just as there are powerful Evangelical organizations such as Christians United for Israel which do the same. Finally there are many non-zionist Jews, secular and religious, which want nothing to do with a racist and violent apartheid state like Israel. Israel is primarily a partner of North American and European elites to maintain their hegemony over the region. The genocidal violence of Israel against the Palestinians and now the Lebanese is due to this fact and not due to some supposed negative and inherent characteristics of Jews and Judaism. Remember both anti-semites and fanatical zionists make the same false claim that Israel represents all Jews.
Well said!
The word “anti-Semite” is so passé. Get a new schtick.
My new schtick is Auntie Shem-itism.
😂
Bye.
After being exposed to young Jewish boys in Jerusalem who openly mocked non Jews, it became obvious that the root of the problem is indoctrination at such an early age that change in mindset is nearly impossible.
well, you could be an evangelical christian or an israeli hasbara operative (day time job hunting antisemitism on the internet, night time hobby planting it on the internet).:-)
According to some , if the official reports of 16,000 children being slaughtered by IDF bombs is true, and adding another 21,000 children reported missing, plus a few thousand children who were not reported as missing simply because their parents were also missing, the total number of children killed in Gaza could surpass 40,000. If so, it would apparently rival the number of children who died from both the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What else is there to say????????
Maybe the world really is not worth saving, if nobody does anything about it? The phrase "Existential Crisis" comes to mind.
At this point the best thing that can happen is for a large enough meteor to come down from the heavens and end us ALL. But that’s wishful thinking.
Why wouldn’t the best thing be that we, the people, figure out how to live on the beautiful planet in peace?
That’s an impossible dream. Humans will never change. They have been fighting each other from the beginning. The only thing that changes is the ways in which they kill themselves. With the advances in technology all that we are seeing is more sophisticated ways to kill one another. The best thing that can happen for the planet and all its no human inhabitants, is for this cancer known as humans to be eradicated.
Because that will never happen.
Humans are a vile plague. The other lifeforms were doing fine until we greedy fools evolved just enough to fuck it up, but not to save it.
I kind of view humans as an experiment in consciousness which may not succeed. Do I think it was merely accidental? At this point in time, I lean toward, no it's not just all an accident. Do I view humans as all evil, no, I think there is some good as well.
But who knows. You and I as individuals will soon be facing our mortality soon enough. And then what? What was it all about for us, you and I? What does any of it matter once we ourselves are gone? I'm not trying to be "selfish" here, just stating a plain fact: in order for existence to have any meaning to you, you actually have to exist.
I think it's all an astonishing mystery and of course I hope for continuance of consciousness after death. I think anything is possible. It's very strange being human and learning so much astounding science...
It's so tragic what we've done. But of course goodness and great accomplishments along the way too.
I share your hope. It all seems so cruel and stupid otherwise. Yet it remains a mystery for the most part.
I entertain that thought a lot these days. All of this inversionism, orchestrated from on high, basically serves as a scathing indictment of mankind. The money turned us into cannibals and warlords, and while it’s easy to hate the money, almost all of us play along without much, or any, pangs of conscience. I fear this might be the point of the whole exercise. If there is no light, then the dark will erase everything, as it should, they would argue. We’ve reached end stage decay.
That's a heck of a lots of 'ifs'. Did you get these figures off mainstream lol
Ha ha you'd believe anything you were told by that comment.
I used to think the two-state solution was the way to go. Then I decided that one secular state with equal rights for all, and no special privileges for anyone on the basis of religion, was the answer. Now I think the complete dissolution of Israel and the scattering of Israeli Zionists back to the regions where they came from is the only answer. Israel has one great talent and that is creating profoundly racist, bloodthirsty psychopaths who must be moved to countries where they are forced by the pressure of the communities they are in to comply with basic laws, or be imprisoned if they can't. The creation of Israel was a terrible mistake that must be undone completely.
I don’t think anyone will want them when it’s all said and done. They are blood thirsty zombies. They can’t be allowed in a civil society.
Well I guess there is always the Jewish Autonomous Oblast.
I still suspect Khazaria (aka Ukraine) plays a role somehow. Unclear at present. Maybe Israel is destroyed, and Zelensky and Blackrock welcome the Khazars home. Their true return home. Even if it’s all theater, I pray a new David emerges among them and that this story takes a positive turn.
You bring up a good point, just how does the Jewish Autonomous Oblast manage to remain in its allotted space? How have the people there managed to live with their neighbors without having to clear out the neighbours? What is its position on what is happening right now in Israel?
A new research project. Great.
Technically the shattering and destruction of Zionism cancer as a prominent ideology doesn't preclude the establishment of a truly secular and humane society within Palestine.
The trick, of course, is somehow shattering the system that created Zionism in the first place.
I think a lot of Israeli Zionists would have to leave before a humane society could exist.
I wonder how they can see their own evil actions when the USA is actually sending them multibillions to keep doing what they're doing??? It is horrifying that we are enabling, even encouraging their psychopathy.
I agree.
I don't hate Israel, though I hate what they're doing. Just as I don't hate the United States, which is where I live, but I hate what we're doing to support the things that I hate that Israel is doing.
imperfection in humans is divine, in systems- not so much,
( especially in systems meant to override what it means to be human and divine)
One doesn’t have to hate to want to stop something or someone. Hate is that emotion that would destroy both sides, the hater and the hated.
There are other emotions, such as righteousness anger that can do a better job. We need to find a way, the ways, to stop these bad actors, as if our lives depended on it, because it does.
You seem to be feeling a lot of anger today. Do you often feel this way?
Anger is the only appropriate emotion to genocide. Anything else is pathetic and evil.
For the western empire, Israel is also important because:
1. It creates massive amounts of demand (profits) for the military-industrial complex;
2. It is a testing laboratory for technologies of mass control, violence, destruction, torture, militarised policing and killing.
It is complicated. But so much slack has been given that many are almost literally at the end of their rope. Immediate ad hom ugliness from armies of fact-free Hasbara trolls is encountered in response to any fact-based public reality check of Israeli behaviour. It exhausts patience and tempers or mitigates natural empathy and sympathy for what some Jews have endured in the past. There appears to be no sense of fair play and the evidence that Israel lies about pretty much everything accumulates daily. Even without addressing the role of Jews in creating their fraught relationship with others, it is clear that the government of Israel has zero empathy for their congeners, the Palestinians and their families. Closer to home the Israel lobby has been seditious in cadging billions from American taxpayers (more than $400 billion) while American domestic fires blaze. This has led to the present ludicrous situation where begging Israel’s foreign reserves dwarf those of Americans per cap. Yet they’re still finagling more money. George Carlin’s comments on religion are evoked.
Which begs the question, what percentage of westerners are truly good human beings?
Most are, but unfortunately you cannot underestimate the power of propaganda. In particular the propaganda about the oppression of Jews, actually it is more than propaganda, it is indoctrination
Also, Hollywood has worked very hard to indoctrinate people to see Muslims as savages.
Just like we olders grew up thinking that the Indians were bad and the cowboys were the good guys.
Then I read Dee Brown's "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee". I think it should be required reading in all US schools.
Perhaps an even better choice would be “The Long Death: The Last Days of the Plains Indian,” by Ralph Andrist. At least from my experience. I read Andrist’s first.
I haven't read that one. Thanks for the recommendation.
Just like we were raised to beLIEve that columbus was a hero who discovered this country instead of a lost pirate who thought he was somewhere else and hunted the native indigenous people for sport before gifting them smallpox infected blankets to commit genocide.
Ha, I was raised to believe that Abel Tasman "discovered" Aotearoa New Zealand. Never mind all the people already here!
columbus didn’t “discover” this country. he invaded it.
Hollywood IS one of the most important instruments of propaganda, it comes ahead of mainstream media and possibly ahead of school education/indoctrination:
Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs35t2xFq
All of Hollywood is falling…on itself, right now. It’s a wrap! The despicable, evil crimes of Hollywood are being exposed.
I agree
This is what globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski, to as the threat of “global political awakening.” The problematic of alternative media’s impact on Western mass media’s shaping of the narrative, was eloquently expressed by Mr. Brzezinski speaking at Chatham House, London in 2008:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4
"In earlier times it was easier to control a million people, than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people."
I agree
This is what globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski, to as the threat of “global political awakening.” The problematic of alternative media’s impact on Western mass media’s shaping of the narrative, was eloquently expressed by Mr. Brzezinski speaking at Chatham House, London in 2008:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4
"In earlier times it was easier to control a million people, than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people."
And they are.
“you cannot underestimate the power of propaganda”
This. This! This!!!
Sadly, at least 90% of the population massively underestimate the power of propaganda.
True, but there could be a cure for this:
The Century of the Self (Full Adam Curtis Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s&t=3s
How do YOU define "good human being"? It depends on your definition...
Very simple: do you see the same humanity in someone who doesn’t look, speak, live like you, as you see in yourself? Do you see the innocence in *their* children like you see in your own?
Yes, that is "YOUR" definition (and I like it). But, is it universally agreed upon?
Truth is universal, just like 7 + 5 = 12
Unfortunately, TRUTH is anything BUT universal.
You win, I can't argue against that.
There is nothing wrong with advocating for 15-minute cities. There is also nothing wrong with "gender neutral" bathrooms. Most public toilets are what you call gender neutral, meaning that there is one bathroom and it is for everyone's use. Your associating these things with an instinct to murder is absolute bollocks and reveals a nasty stain of racism in you.
Like yourself most of us Westerners are trapped by an evil oligarchy. Some people see Immigrants as either a threat or sub human. I see most people as wanting a better life for themselves and their children. I defy anybody to look at a child, any child, and not see perfection. While I don't profess to know the answers I do know that hate is the biggest enemy to mankind. Unfortunately, in one way or the other, We all at some point fall into the trap of hatred. This is the game plan of the evil doers that run this world. They rub their hands together in glee when we hate and kill each other. I wish you peace.
I agree with you 100%
this sounds very much like evangelical republican hasbara in my paranoid mind.
Someone with malice towards none unless they are out to kill, maim or injure others. No racism, sexism or any other form of bigotry. Good human beings regard other human beings as equals.
Yes, that is another definition.
just give us chokaski definition already ffs.
I don't have one - that's the point. It is subjective. There are many definitions and different groups of people adhere to different ones. Also, the definition is constantly evolving with time and history...
ok so chokaski definition is there's no definition. are you familiar with the concept of axiom chokaski?
>>"chokaski definition is there's no definition"
No - read my comment again. There are MANY definitions.
Are you stupid or retarded? In which world is MANY equal to NONE?
>>"are you familiar with the concept of axiom"
Yes, it does not apply here. Do you understand it?
Read the history. Since its foundation, Israel has adopted a scorched-earth policy with regard to the original inhabitants of Palestine. Israel is no better than were the English during the Duke of Cumberland's highland clearances post-Battle of Culloden. 'Clearing' is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple, and has been explicitly advocated by a number of high-ranking Israeli politicians and IDF officers. The policy, with all its horrors and violence, has majority support among Jewish citizens of Israeli. Most critics are not antisemitic and don't give a tinker's damn about their Jewishness or otherwise; it's simply the fact of the acts carried out by their government, with their support, that elicit the hatred Caitlin talks about.
Any reading of the histories of Zionism and Israel make it very clear there is absolutely no comparison with other nations calling themselves Western democracies and founded through colonisation. It is dishonest to say that there is. Neither the US, Canada or Australia were founded on religious bigotry, elitist racism, the belief the native people were subhuman and must be exterminated or expelled.
It is a copout to dismiss Ziorael as a settler colonial example because it stands alone, unique in its elitism, racism, bigotry and political and religious fanaticism.
Never in the US, Canada, Australia or other such nations have there been policies of genocidal ethnic cleansing as Israel has had. Certainly mistakes were made, but it was centuries before Israel was invented, and in general, the goal was not extermination as Israel has always had, but assimilation into the then modern world.
Sure, some people today think assimilation is a dirty word but since most humans want the best the world can offer, we can forgive people in the past for thinking that assimilation into the then modern world was preferable.
I'm sorry. Did you just claim that the violent "let's genocide and drive away all the 'savages' from this divinely given promised land" colonies were not founded on colonialist values?
The USA's very founding was a rejection of co-existence with native americans in favor of mass slaughter and extermination.
Do not *dare* downplay the 200+ year nightmare that has taken place on the north American continent.
I am mixed race . My parents were born in S.Africa and I in London . My (white) father got a lot of kudos (politically) for marrying my Asian mother - altho' he pretended to his family and friends that my mother was just a mistress/housekeeper . I know from personal experience that 'mixing races' is not a simple wholly beneficial process eg my younger sister hates Asians because she is not accepted by them here in England . My father passed me off as white and my little sister was effectively hidden from his white relatives . So his theoretical positiiion was anti-racist ie he was a "good white" . But how he actually behaved....
It seems a sad and strange situation given the high rate of mixed marriages in the UK. I do not believe your situation is in any way the norm or common.
Racists do not intermarry. We know that from studying history and societies which really do believe in superior and inferior groups.
Racist men are often keen on sex with non-white women and will go so far as to marry them . Family is less important to whites than to us and so keeping a marriage secret is entirely possible . Sorry I have come across many similar cases here in England and cannot agree that my family is so unusual . When you say racists do not intermarry - why are you so sure ? Or do you mean that my father was therefore not racist ? My mother blamed his mother for his racist behaviour because his theoretical position was , of course politically correct . Most people do indeed blame my mother and feel that she should have been grateful . I did not know that there is a high rate of mixed marriages in the UK - but then it would not be exactly be advertised !
Can you tell me how you define white? I would be fascinated to learn how the colour of skin has such an effect, as you claim.
In my experience, and I have lived in a dozen countries, Africa - four countries, India, Europe, North America, Australia, I have found all humans care about family to the same degree.
When I lived in India people often said to me that Australians did not care about family as Indians did. Most of course had never been to Australia so how would they know? What they meant was Indians live as extended families and they took that as caring when it was simply financial necessity. Australians no longer live in extended families but they care just as much about family.
I saw and heard enough about life in Indian extended families to know that they were not necessarily nice or kind places to be.
From what I saw in India, probably the most racist place on the planet, racists do not intermarry. Same for South Africa when I lived there. The UK as an example has high rates of intermarriage as does Australia, which makes each relatively non-racist.
I don't know your family situation so cannot comment. If your mother and father had a bad relationship it was not about racism. Lots of people are in bad marriages and that applies if they are white, black, brown, yellow or brindle.
It sounds as if your parents had an unhappy marriage and that is difficult for any child. I have lived in London a few times and understand it is not representative but I have also travelled a lot in the UK and all I know is mixed couples are not uncommon in ways they certainly are in South Africa and many parts of the US.
Sex is such a complicated issue and such a powerful biological drive that I do not believe racism comes into it. A true racist would never have sex with someone he or she considered to be inferior, dirty, or subhuman. During war they might rape anyone that they can but that has been human nature for millennia.
I have no doubt in war when people, particularly men, face death, their unconscious desire, or need, to survive in some way, the desire to feel alive as one does in the sexual act, plays a big part. I am not condoning, just explaining.
From everything I know about human nature and psychology I do not believe racists intermarry. Mixed marriages may well be more challenged than others and I can think of many reasons why that would be, but it is not about racism but rather a clash of cultures.
Yes I am saying that. If you study the histories and I know Australia well and a bit about the US but doubt Canada was very different to the US, the earliest colonists were a mix of persecuted Christians and convicts sent as labourerers.
I think you need to look at things within the context of the time and not retrofit modern values to the past. By all means if you can provide proof that the English Government and Crown sent written orders to the first colonists to Canada and what became the US, that they should slaughter and drive away all the savages, I am happy to admit I am in error.
From my study of the histories the original plans were to work with the native peoples and to bring the Christian word of God to them. Again, understand this in the context of the times.
Yes violence broke out in North America but then the many different Indian tribes were violent with each other and often at war and yes, everyone wants to defend their patch of turf. There were instances were Indian groups worked closely with the settlers and other instances where they tried to kill them. Pretty much how relations between the Indian tribes worked. Some got on, some did not. Some were peaceful, some were violent. Just like all humans.
And sorry mate, I have read enough American history, perhaps with a less jaundiced eye, to know that your hyperbolic claim of a 200+ nightmare is as much fantasy as fact.
Do you know how Polynesians, Asians, Africans and the American Indian tribes, originally from the Sino-Russian steppes, treated the people they came across as they migrated? They killed them and as often as not ate them. Win-win. Get rid of those in your way and have an easy time with no hunting for a while.
When the Maoris invaded New Zealand a few centuries before the British they killed and ate those they found. In fact they kept some caged up for future consumption. Sort of primitive fast food if you like.
Beware the danger of nailing your modern beliefs to the past. Please provide historical facts to prove this claim:
The USA's very founding was a rejection of co-existence with native americans in favor of mass slaughter and extermination.
The Maori did not kill and eat earlier settlers in Aotearoa New Zealand. There were no earlier settlers. The Maori were the first settlers of the main islands. The genocide of the Moriori, who inhabited the Chatham Islands, took place after European settlers had already arrived in Aotearoa New Zealand, and with the assistance of a corrupt white captain who provided the transport to the Chatham Islands.
You present the rewritten history view. There were Moriori on NZ when the Maoris arrived. Why would there not be given the richness of the country. There were some on the Chatham Islands but it takes a particular level of brainwashing to believe that there they were on Chatham and yet NZ was empty???????
And the Maoris, ever the murderers, took advantage of British guns and ships and they sailed to Chatham to knock off the last of them. Oh dear, a corrupt white captain who sailed the ship was responsible for the Maoris murdering the Moriori? I bet you have seen pigs fly as well.
There is no archeological evidence whatsoever that there were any other people in Aotearoa New Zealand before the Maori. The Chatham Islands are a long way from the main islands, something you clearly do not understand. They are even in a different time zone, by thirty minutes. The Moriori had a unique and distinctive culture separate from the Maori.
The Maori were not "ever the murderers"; that is racist hate speech.
I did not say the white captain was responsible, that is a pathetic strawman on your part.
The myth that the Moriori were on the mainland before the Maori arrived was a piece of racist nonsense invented to justify "superior" races wiping out "inferior" races and therefore justifying genocide of indigenous people in the USA, Canada, Australia and Aotearoa. There is absolutely absolutely nothing in either Maori or Moriori oral histories (and yes, some Moriori are still extant) to support it. All the archeological evidence points to the Maori oral histories of reaching Aotearoa New Zealand and finding it empty to be essentially correct.
If you knew anything about ocean currents in the Pacific you would understand that it is perfectly plausible that the Moriori never reached the mainland.
Your question mark key appears to be sticking.
Do you really believe the U.S. Government did not attempt to exterminate the Plains Tribes after the Civil War? While the U.S. Cavalry was exterminating men, women and children their motto was "nits make lice" as they murdered children.
Hmm, I live in NYC where anti Genocide rallies are often mostly Jewish. And I grew up in the South where Jews could not live in my whites-only neighborhood, or most segregated white neighborhoods; this did not end in 1965, that was merely when the lawsuits began. So, Amerikkka is complicated. However, genocide is not that complicated nowadays with cell phones; the State of Israel is currently committed genocide; Israel began as a settler colonial State; thus Israel does not deserve to occupy Gaza or the West Bank—including Gaza’s considerable oil they currently steal.
I hope all of you will take the time to hear the interview with Gideon Levy on Chris Hedges Report. Levy is an honest man who understands how dehumanizing this occupation and war is. He said it was now against the law to express sympathy for the death of Palestinian children.
All anyone has to do to see this war is fueled by pure hatred is look at Gaza. It has nothing to do with the Holocaust or the diaspora but has everything to do with cruelty.
Funny how a certain group thinks citing being hated by everyone means everyone ELSE is to blame.
Some of us who have known the true nature of Israel for most of our lives are way past that stage by now. Beware of hatred, for it can easily turn on oneself. Beware of dehumanizing the Israelis, for if one does that then one becomes like them, and surely no one wants THAT!
There is only one way most Westerners can effectively oppose Israel, and it's an old way--boycott. Support your local BDS movement. Boycott the corporations which invest in Israel at every opportunity. Remember the old death by a thousand cuts. Buy coffee other than Starbucks. Drive by and not through that McDonald's. Tell your local government to drop those bloody Israeli bonds.
We can do this, and there's nothing the Israelis can do to stop us. Boycotts work.
Caitlin, not only Westerners but the "other" as well empathised with what Jews suffered and endured under the German Nazis, ending in the Holocaust, though they had no part in that inferno and weren't guilty of pogroms or even passive acceptance. I know why you singled out Westerners, but I would add to your excellent newsletter that "the other" empathised even more so than Westerners because they have gone through holocausts of their own inflicted on them by the same Westerners.
There will always be good human beings - Western or non-Western - who have the compassion and wisdom to feel the pain of others. As you have pointed out " good Westerners" have lived and learned to empathise and now are horrified by the ruthlessness of the Zionist regime.
The irony is that the formally victimised Jews are now bent on a genocidal revenge from the innocents, not from the ones who did them harm. They have turned into tyrants themselves.
As good as summary as I have seen.
Yes, we have all known good Jews but seriously decreasing in number as the genocide goes on, day after day, and their support for Israel increases. They do not seem ever to be able to see Israel as it always has been, straight after WWII (the settlers and their crimes); they do not seem to regard the Nazi-like killing as anything that could have been avoided and they do regard the rest off the world as second class citizens. That level of arrogance will never change.
The greatest crime is that they enjoy the deaths of others, the more the merrier.
As Caitlin said, "an entire society is indoctrinated from birth into viewing their neighbours as mindless savages". As we have all seen the 'mindless savages' are Israeli born and bred, now never likely to change.
That is now the way they are. As a race, they are finished, their actions clearly show their inhumanity and who in their right mind would want to share a land with people like that.