100% - See my most recent comment if sorted by "latest." You're spot on. And it goes beyond the scope many may see in your comment. This is a message from POWER to the rest of us that Gaza isn't the last time things like this can and will happen - with impunity. We are next, we just don't know exactly when, and they're laying the groundwork by demonstrating that "rule of law" and basic humanity can and will be abandoned when THEY feel like it.
And one still gets pushback when diagnosing that the entire society is collectively the most blatant example of sociopathy ever manifest. A world that eventually mobilized against the prior modern-era holder of that distinction, Nazi Germany, did so only because its member nations were directly threatened.
But today's fool leaders in the West don't realize that's already happened. Israeli surveillance and other weapons tech has invaded the entire world via Elbit Systems and their other sleazy corporations. By all rights, if Western leaders were awake -- and not hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money -- they'd recognize that Israel is a threat to the entire world and should be bombed into a pile of rubble resembling Dresden in 1945.
Hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money --- but I suppose I should have added "other life amendments up to and not excluding its extinction". I believe that would be the contract with the devil.
Those leaders have been subjected to a program of entrapment and extortion, of which the Epstain/Maxwell operation was a part. That program has a quiet, insidious side effect of creating a self censoring impulse among those observing its effects. Ownership of the media by Zionist adherents enables the control, in that it allows political reputations and credibility to be destroyed at will.
>>"By all rights, if Western leaders were awake -- and not hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money..."
Vin, unfortunately the Western leaders ARE WIDE AWAKE (and I wish they were in a COMA instead). Their 'wide awake' means more exploitation/oppression/etc. on the rest of the world (including their own countries) for the pursuit of power, money, security, control, etc.
Too many people seem to have fallen for the narrative of 'Zionist money'. People such as these don't really care if the money is 'Zionist' or not. If one digs deeper down into the motivations (and true beliefs) of such people - they don't really care about any country (yes, not even Israel), or any Religion. They USE the 'narratives and ideologies' of Zionism (or anything else that serves their purposes) as a means towards accomplishing their goals.
If tomorrow another country (that is not Jewish or Zionist) happens to provide the benefits/advantages to 'these Western leaders' that Israel currently provides, then their narratives would change - but their goals/behaviors would not.
Hence I try to implore people to dig deeper and understand at a more holistic level the dynamics involved - it is not really about Jews or Judaism or Israel - it is about doing whatever is necessary to maintain the status-quo, seek power, accumulate more wealth, and remain at the top of social hierarchies. And Capitalism - which underpins much of this - allows such people to maintain the unjust socio-economic hierarchies that we have.
I think you already know, Chang, that I would never disagree that at the root of all this disastrous world-level bloodshed is the kill-for-profit, manipulate, lie, screw anyone for profit ethos of fucking Capitalism. But try raising that on this or any other thread, and it's generally treated as Naah, that's not really the issue, when you and I know that it is indeed at the core of the issue. Because as you point out, socioeconomic injustice and oppression of the many by a few is intrinsic to whatever iteration of the system which appears with each new iteration of humanity, its communications tech and engines of war. The skewed, unjust, imbalanced -- and worst of all entropic with respect to the Biosphere -- system merely adapts to the "advancements" by appropriating them into its arsenal of malfeasances. Sorry, I often no longer have the anti-troll energy that raising these issues usually subsequently requires. You seem to, and I commend you for it.
Israeli surveillance, weaponry and methods of coercion go back even further. Look at South and Central American fascist US puppet regimes from Pinochet to Argentina to Colombia to El Salvador. All were aided by Israel.
Been saying the same for months now. They were thrown out of many many countries because of their need go own everything, especially being money lenders who cheats their customers, then trying to take over those countries until it became necessary to kick them out. No one had weapons like this then so getting them out was the best to do. They can never fight on equal terms, which is why they picked on Palestine, a land of farms and olive and orange groves and a peaceful people.
They live for violence as long as the other side can't fight back, they cowardly barbarians who need to be punished and disbanded because world rule is there aim.
EVERY accusation by Israel is an ADMISSION of guilt (and Israel has been trying desperately using its hasbara to hope that the world does not find out).
EVERY behavior by Israel, EVERY social media post by IDF soldiers, EVERY word uttered by Israeli politicians, EVERYTHING Israel does is either (a) an outright lie (b) twisted logic that only psychopaths and sociopaths would agree with (c) bad hasbara and PR
Israel MUST cease to exist (in its current form/incarnation) so that humanity can begin to heal itself!
And PLEASE - someone/something STOP THIS GENOCIDE!!!
"There is no possible military justification for destroying lifesaving medical equipment. They were destroyed so that they could not be used to save lives."
If these actions don't prove that Israel is deliberately trying to wipe out the entirety of the populace of Gaza, I don't what else to say. It's beyond evil. The zy0nists are killing and maiming and starving innocents, the youngest of the young and their families, and destroying hospitals and medical equipment--all with the help of the US who gladly provides the bombs and bullets. There's no possible MORAL justification to not arrest and imprison all these sick and twisted war criminals asap.
Indeed. Not only did the UK murder 10% of the adult Arab population of Palestine in the 1930s "putting down an insurrection" a famous British excuse. But even worse, they instantiated some of the brutal tactics of the IDF by militarily training the Haganah, that early Israeli pile of stinking feces passing for a"defense force".
“All with the hep of the US”. You raise an important point. Zionist supporters (US, UK, Germany, France, Canada, etc.) know exactly what is happening and are every bit as guilty as Israel both as a nation and with respect to the leadership.
A periodic reminder - this is exactly how Ukraine's been behaving since at least 2014 and even before that (look up their shooting down passenger plane over Black Sea when they still had Crimea).
Ukraine has been pining to become another Israel. They enjoy mutual admiration and support. Ukraine is just as disgusting as Israel is - and proudly so.
Yup. As I'm sure you know, the two "countries" also share a rich history of weirdly overlapping ideologues and willingness to engage in terroristic endeavors, often with the overt and covert backing of the US and other NATO countries (or their elites) - dating back to Jabotinsky if not earlier.
You are right, both to mention Jabotinsky, and the early origins.
It goes back much further than CIA programming. The connection is cultural and ideological.
- The "Russian" Jews who formed a large part of the First Aliyah (and all immigration since, including to America) were from Ukraine also.
There's a cultural history of cossackism I think it could be named--a working name anyway. Eastern Europe in general has brutal ethnostatist tendencies--they show up in the neonazi street culture, just look around for discussions of jackbooted thuggery.
The CIA may have taken advantage, without a doubt, but didn't cause the tendency.
- The ideological connection is Nietzsche.
This article https://ghostarchive.org/archive/2hlXy is the one that gave me the hint. (If it doesn't jump out, well, on Oct 7, I had already been reading deeply about the pre-WW1 origins of lumpenprole/lumpenvillager ethnic resentment and rebellion against existing government, in Ukraine, for obvious reasons. So the mention of the Zionist poet and the Ukrainian connection stood out like dayglo paint).
There's more to read on this. 'Nietzsche and Zion' by Jacob Golomb is a good psychological take on the hollow narcissism that drove the early Zionists into Nietzsche's soothing prescriptions for mayhem.
Max Nordau's 'Degeneration', Book 3 ch 5 (on the gutenberg project website) explains the Nietzschean philosophy as it had captured the imaginations of the aspiring Zionist thugs. He himself came up with "muscular judaism", a Jewish take on the Aryan ubermensch--to be achieved by going to Palestine, where brutality and farm labor would give the skinny, bespectacled urban Jew the physique of a hero.
There's so much more... the Zionists were almost all entranced by Nietzsche and what his ravings about amoral ascendancy offered. They focused on the stuff that was a good fit with their own favorite legends about earlier followers of the religion...
As for the Ukrainians, especially the Galicians, they did pretty much the same, with cossacks as their seed of hero-myth. (Jews of Eastern Europe could have said the same, but their religion stopped acquiring history well before they even converted, and instead only acquired layers of obsessive rabbinical mixing and sampling of their "first people" legends).
"even before" is crucial here. Goes back to the early CIA operations of cultural programming and propaganda in Ukraine during the time in which it was part of the USSR.
Hello russian_bot, We haven't forgotten! Even when the horror the Palestinians are subjected to become overwhelming, even then, we shouldn't forget the western world's "the other war".
Russia is fighting a war on all fronts - it is not only fighting Ukraine but the military might of NATO and the US which keep arming Ukraine. The talk of peace is all propaganda. Their media might even equate Putin with the monster in Israel.
Trump's infantile pronouncements of making peace is just hot-air with an eye to the Nobel Prize?!! He cannot get over the fact that Obama got one.
The fact is that right from the start the US/West needed to diminish Russia or get it on side so as to start their war against China.
Yes, indeed. Russian power and military strength are keeping Ukraine and NATO in check and have, in fact, defeated them. That SMO continues with one of the goals, being the attrition of the enemy. With a kill ratio of perhaps as high as 20 AFU-1 RAF now, Ukraine is in its death throes. To counter this, Ukraine can only respond with terrorist strikes using donated weaponry and intelligence. The proposed buffer zone expands as needed.
Russia looks deeper and will end the Nazi ideology gripping the leaders by replacing them. It will do what is necessary to end the nightmare Russian speakers have endured. It aims to address the root causes.
Safety and security are achieved through military strength which Palestine does not have. Only a larger, stronger, and determined force can step in and stop Israel. There is nothing to keep Israel in check.
Biden could have stopped it with a phone call--or simply not provided the bombs in the first place. The US has been aiding and abetting Israel since it's inception. The US is equally guilty of genocide.
The thing is that almost every president since Truman has been behind what Israel has done. The genocide of Palestine has been planned long before Israel was created. The world has sat on its ass since the Nakba and has done nothing to stop what Israel has been doing.
Not one country has stepped up and put itself on the line for Palestinians. Not one.
I completely agree. It’s just crazy to me that an obvious actor like Trump could hold so many lives in his hand. If he would just break from the script this horror would end.
But Trump's masters write the script and pull the puppets' strings. They see nothing but profit and power from this horrific situation in Palestine. We can't rely on any help from a corrupt system bought and paid for by evil men. We must overturn the system to save ourselves and others.
The thing is, and the truth is, we feed the beast that this system is. We have gotten so comfortable with our so-called "civilized" way of life that we do not even think of the means by which our civilization came to be what it is. Those of us in the West, consume, consume and consume some more. We need, use and want all the resources that are derived from the oppression of other peoples in the world. There is a bunch of oil and gas and prime real estate right there were Gaza is. Of course the fat cats get the biggest piece of the pie but it does trickle down to us.
If we overturn the system, what will we replace it with? More of the same? The only way it would not be more of the same is for us, in the so-called civilized world, to give up a whole lot of our creature comforts that are powered by the resources stolen from these oppressed people.
That is the backdrop of all these wars, all wars are bankers wars. We'd not only have to get rid of Trump and his puppet masters, we'd have to get rid of the entire banking system, and all that the banking system supports. Most of us just want to get rid of the figurehead, we don't want to do the hard work on ground level by getting rid of our lavish lifestyles.
Why would common folks vote for billionaires who are so out of touch with them? Because it is the billionaire class, the so called elite class, that the common folk envy and aspire to become.
We'd have to do some serious house cleaning to actually overturn the system effectively enough so as not to recreate it under another guise.
The way things are now, even if Netanyahu slipped on a banana peel and bust his head and died, another scumbag will rise to take his place.
There needs to be a radical and sustainable revolution on the individual level so we can stop producing this madness. To be honest, I really don't know how that would take place on a global level, there are so many moving parts that keep the "system" alive. Even if we scream loud enough to stop "this genocide" I doubt it would prevent any other "genocide" from taking place.
It the Uniparty. It's much clearer to understand what's going on if you understand it as one party, with two different styles, but fundamentally the same.
I know that. I’m as black-pilled as they come. I’m just thinking that if this 78 year old man issued just one lucid statement against this genocide, it would end. I guess I’m hoping against hope that someone in a real position of power will succumb to their conscience.
"hope that someone in a real position of power will succumb to their conscience." That's a great idea. I fear, however, the only way they got to those positions of power was because they don't have a conscience.
>>"I fear, however, the only way they got to those positions of power was because they don't have a conscience."
💯 So true Joy! I contemplate sometimes that the requirements to reach the top-levels of human socio-economic hierarchies (some would frame this as 'being successful') seems MORE to do with 'a lack of conscience/morals/ethics/basic human decency/etc.' than anything else.
Exactly. The Trumanites have taken full control of the levers of power from the Madisonians and their fig leaf or charade of legitimate "democratic" checks and balances in the US.
This book will inform just about anyone willing to learn the how, what and why of US imperial and diplomatic policy.
I doubt anyone disagrees with you. But Trump is in power now and he's exercising it to an insane degree - except not against Israel, despite some murmurings in the mainstream press about how he's "sidelined" Bibi in the talks with Iran and/or Saudi and/or the ceasefire (read: surrender) with Ansar Allah ("the Houthis").
The author's youtube channel has a lot more on the topic. The video Kahanistan' is fantastic, as it not only explains Kahanism in Israeli politics, but explains how Israel's politics sorts into 5 chunks, which boil down to the stance on what the Torah says about "chosen people, gifted land", and level of comfort with ultraviolence. Israel's parliamentary politics is about as unstable as Ukraine's, and as hard to untangle from the outside, and the video makes it all clear very quickly.
Israel is systematically targeting Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure. The documentary evidence has been overwhelming for more than a year. So the countries supplying Israel’s munitions and military equipment are unequivocally in breach of the genocide convention. If this convention is ratified in the domestic law of the countries that have ratified it, why are these governments not in court subject to injunctions banning arms exports? The law doesn’t have any meaning. None. Mass murder and genocide will be carried out with impunity. The mass media will pretend it’s not happening. All systems of governance are a sham, violence and the threat of violence is the only thing left. And it’s being used against us every day.
Terrifyingly, this is my view too. Any pretense of international order has been entirely demolished by the world witnessing this barbarism in real time, and apart from Yemen, not one country stepping up to stop the complete annihilation of Palestine. The minute the first hospital became a target, it was game over for us all.
And we will not know the full extent of Shitrael's barbarity until long after Palestine is cleansed: the land now poisoned for generations and the people of Palestine, their history, the richness and beauty of their culture eradicated.
All I can hold onto is the thought that the goodness of Palestine has escaped in a million tiny streams into a sea of consciousness that will one day decide to walk away from all of this dystopia and truly create a better world.
"pretense" is the keyword and does all the heavy lifting there. We're merely witnessing the true powers that be finally abandoning the pretense and dropping the mask. This applies not just to Zionist "Israel" but to her enablers, supporters and apologists who rule over the rest of us in the so-called "free and democratic" West and Oceania.
Oh, but let one Ukrainian Nazi stub his precious little toe while burning dissenters alive, and The Rule Based International Order will harrumph about how Something Must Be Done.
Finster's Second Law readeth thusly: "There is no such thing as law. There is only context." The longer form version is as follows: "Laws are for little people. Policy is for The People Who Matter, because policy is what determines when the law is applied, how, and to whom."
🎯 true Feral. Unfortunately, few people understand this. Most are living in the illusions created and maintain by TPTB, oblivious to the intricate dynamics and realities of how principles like 'law, justice, rules, etc.' really function. These 'rules/laws/ordered-systems' by TPTB are often lauded, hailed, and extolled as 'proof of progress of human civilizations and societies' instead of being recognized as "a system that is used to perpetuate might-is-right narratives' (and the oppression, exploitation, injustice, etc. that goes along with it).
From Oct 8, 2023 Israel has done everything to show the world their intention was ethnic cleansing. They bombed hospitals from the beginning with numerous claims that there were Hamas tunnels, and sited a schedule on the wall as some sort of plan by Hamas to kill Israelis.
What other conclusion can you come to, when they bombed hospitals, they didn't just bomb them by accident, they targeted them. And now most all of them are gone or barely operable.
They did that so the injured could not get adequate medical treatment.
They did that so the already infirmed and injured would die without medical treatment.
They did that because civilians had escaped to hospitals thinking they would be safe there but Israel bombed them.
They did that so that there would be no adequate medical supplies for the many people and too many children who would have to have their limbs amputated without anesthesia.
They did it to inflict the most heinous demoralization onto the injured by their shelling and bombing, turning hospitals into screaming and screeching death beds.
They did that to terrorize the volunteer aid workers so that they would not come to assist in the Gaza's hospitals.
They did that to psychologically traumatize the medical staff and aid workers, perhaps making them too unfit to work due to emotional breakdowns.
They did that so that the carnage would be so high it would be virtually impossible to deal with, the morgues were overflowing.
They did that because to them, these people are human animals and according to their Zionist predilection based on some archaic scriptures. They claim that they will not to be punished for killing, starving, maiming, bombing, raping, torturing, kidnapping, etc. Palestinians because they are human animals, Amalek, and therefore, there is no repercussion for them as they systematically genocide them by any means necessary.
These past 20 months have shown that Israel, its government, its IDF, its military planners and its citizens have strategically planned out just how they would get rid of the Palestinians and take over Gaza. Every step they took was headed in that direction from the very day they declared war on Gaza and the Palestinians.
Bombing hospitals is a war crime, but hey, Israel doesn't care about International Humanitarian Laws, they'll just call everyone a Hamas supporter, terrorists supporter or Anti-Semitic. Their cup runneth over no matter what they do, so they simply don't care. Period!
The world of global politics and human relations is in a lawless state. Nothing is being done except moral outrage - which of course is impotent . Impotent like the UN. It makes me feel physically weak as a human that nothing can be done about Israel’s lawless barbarity. “Civilization” means nothing . It is an empty word now.
These devilspawn Colonial/Genocidal Zionists, from Biden and Netanyahu (e.g.) on down the long line...how much can one adequately despise them and wish them all the ills they so richly deserve?
Pity the Palestinians, esp. the kids (not to mention the moms who gestated them and tried to provide childbirth). Mercy to Palestine! (But "mercy" is simply not there.....)
Hamas was created and supported by Israel to divide the Palestinians and prevent a unified demand for statehood. Without Hamas, the current regime would not be in power, for its power is based on an emergency condition requiring an enemy and war. For no regime in in history it been for true, as Randolf Bourne wrote 100 yrs ago that "War is the health of the state."
This being the case, Hamas cannot be defeated, not so much because of its innate strength, but because defeating it would result in the current regime losing power and some ending up in prison for having supported Hamas and corruption. The goal is NOT to defeat Hamas, but rather to use Hamas, as it was prior to Oct 7, used to divide and weaken Palestinian unity, but rather because without an enemy, there can be no war, and with no war, there is no Netanyahu coalition and no justification to block statehood. Hamas must remain, but it has a new purpose: to justify genocide, to rationalize the destruction of the Palestinian people. If Hamas were defeated, as Netanyahu proclaims, there would be no excuse to keep an unpopular regime in control, no more excuse to destroy Gaza and therewith the Palestinian people. In blunt terms, defeating Hamas would be the defeat of the far right Zionist regime that rules Israel. And to put it in even more blunt terms, Hamas is the shield behind which the corrupt Zionist regime running the war hides from the Israeli public.
So when Netanyahu and other Zionist leaders announce that the war will go on until there is no Hamas, what they mean is that the war will go on until the destructioin of the Palestinian people is complete and they either are exterminated, expelled,or subjugated. And when Gaza is no longer livable, as it almost is today, the expulsion of the remaining Gazans will be a survival journey to somewhere where life IS possible.
That is why not only homes full of families but aid workers, medics, schools. universities,and finally hospitals must be destroyed...to make life impossible for the people, and thus resulting in their destruction and for removal, as one would flee a scene where staying meant being killed or starving to death, which would be called by those doing the killing and starving, "voluntary." And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness of those who brought Hamas into being, propped it up, and need it to continue their goal of getting rid of the Palestinians, which began in 1948 and is in what today can only be called "The Final Solution."
But there is one thing about this whole "needing an enemy" so Israel can continue to "war" on its neighbors. It has been reported by DropSite News, the Grayzone and Inlakesh of MintPress News, that Israel is currently arming ISIS and Al Qaeda operatives to distribute humanitarian aid. These operatives/mercenaries/ once called terrorists are a small faction that has been battling with Hamas ever since Hamas came to power. They are also stupid as "sh*t if they think they will not fall under the ire of Israel. So Israel will foment tensions between Hamas and ISIS/ Al Qaeda operatives who are now cattle-logging the starving Palestinians during the distribution of humanitarian aid with food boxes filled with items made in Israel. The supplies coming in from International sources are being block. There is a claim that this is being done to quiet the outcry of starvation, yet Israel is claiming that folks don't look like they're starving. They made the men take off their shirts to show the world. Israel doesn't care about starving the Palestinians. And I would not trust supplies coming in from Israel.
So yeah, Hamas may or may not be completely destroyed, but as is the usual strategy, they are no longer needed, and will be replaced with another "terrorist" faction to keep the need for war ongoing. Israel's economy would flop without billions coming in so it can defend itself.
100% replaced with a CREATED, FUNDED, or ENCOURAGED "terror" (defined and articulated however necessary) faction. I can't believe so many people can't see the prevalence or abundance of this particular tactic over the last 100 years.
All true, but not only that, Hamas was manipulated through infiltration and harassment to initially put "(all) Jews" in their initial charter. This happened at a very specific and historically significant juncture during which, yes, there was hatred or anger directed at "Jews" since that's who had carried out operations (including future ones) like Cast Lead and it wasn't Christians or Hindus stealing their land, murdering & beating them, or imprisoning them without a semblance of due process. IOW - Hamas, like any resistance or ostensible civil government group in an occupied territory and representing occupied people, has a nuanced and varied history.
They were effectively created or at least nursed from an unsure infancy by Israelis and have always served the Zionist occupiers' interest in one form or another depending on when we're talking about - from "See, they hate and want to murder ALL Jews!" to "They were VOTED IN by Gazans (because they kept the streets clean and funded education)!" to "See what those monsters did on October 7?! (despite their "charter" [how many genuine rebel/resistance groups write and PUBLISH a charter?] having been edited to remove any reference to "(all) Jews".
Zionist Israel and her supporters in the West enjoy vast PR dominance that includes narrative control and manipulation. In that sense, Hamas has been both a victim and a pawn, but one that at times has done many good things for the people of Gaza despite the severe limitations imposed upon them while at the same time being funded and supported by those who are limiting them.
What a precarious situation Hamas was put into. Yet, I can't help but wonder why they would let themselves be funded by their enemy. Then Israel just goes and assassinates their leaders. But that's how it goes, these folks fund both sides of the conflict... look at what they are doing in Syria.
So much to delve into here. It's beyond the scope or scale of a simple Internet reply, but I completely agree with you despite wanting and feeling responsible to add much needed nuance and context. Hamas - if one looks at its history - has been, on one level - so many things! Yet on the commonly presented level, always the same thing: a "terrorist Jew hating group" (and almost all of those words deserve their own scare quotes, individually!) It has also been the most effective form of civil/democratic and even secular government in Gaza since 2006. But from every vantage point, the Israelis and their western enablers have managed to cement into the collective consciousness (and EMOTIONAL consciousness) the "terror" and "popularly supported" angle - AND - to meld the two. While either overtly or covertly funding and/or supporting them.
Like you said before - funding both sides of the (in many cases) manufactured (!) conflict.
It's way above my ability to articulate. Scholarly dissertations should be devoted to this historicity and analysis and that's precisely why Trump built on Biden's persecution of the academic endeavor to suss it out, and why it's virtually criminalized in any "democratic" or "western" affiliated country to research and publish such stuff.
Disgusting, really. Kind of like the history of western white supremacy and slavery being systematically rooted out of academia and academia being attacked wholesale to boot.
It really boils the blood. And then if you speak up, folks look at you like you have 2 heads, and nowadays, you just might get deported.
One thing that is for sure, the veil has been lifted. This war on Gaza has everyone who cares, reading, watching, and researching the history of this 100 year conflict, so Israel's hasbara has to go into overdrive to keep up with the revelations coming forth. Bots everywhere, cries of anti-Semitism and laws to protect these vulnerable people. The world has been turned upside down because for the life of me, I can't see how a people with the backing of the West, an iron dome and billions dollars in their arsenal of weapons is so vulnerable.
It's Orwellian. More so than at any point in the past from when he was alive and writing, through the initial post-9/11 lies to now. We're post-reality. How will those of us who value actual reality survive? I do not know. And I've even bought a year's supply of antibiotics, non-gunpowder hunting and survival supplies and a few guns w/ ammo. My wife stocked up the pantry and garage with non-perishable food items. It's fuckin' sad. Why are we here and why are rational, empathetic and knowledgeable/critical people like me feeling this way?
LOL, where you life at? I may need to seek shelter. LOL.
Anyways, just hope no natural disaster hits where you live, cause that would definitely mess up that stock-pile.
We have to use our spiritual power and create a wall of protection around you and your family so that you can be safe. Call on your ancestors, the righteous ones, and ask them to protect you. At this point that is about all we can do. We are living in great and dreadful times.
Historically, from what I have seen, there have always been those who go against the status quo, we are here because we are needed.
I mentioned elsewhere, how do we know when the leaders of Hamas knew where the funds originated, given they were channeled through Qatar? We may be making assumptions based on what we now know, which may have no bearing on the timeline for when they learned this.
Or are you thinking when the funds came through Qatar, they just told them, "Hey, this is from Israel"? If so, why the need for the extra channel?
From my understanding "the leaders of Hamas" are in Qatar and they have received billions of dollars directly from Israel and other sources, cash mind you, then they funneled the money to Hamas. Of course Israel couldn't exactly fund Hamas directly, but they wanted to keep the animosity going between the Palestinian Authority (PA) and Hamas in Gaza. So they supported "indirectly" Hamas. BTW, one of the leaders of Hamas in Qatar, lost his son and grandchildren in an Israeli strike. Dance with the devil but you can't chose the tune.
But seriously... I'm not there, never served in any military, myself... but common sense would say when looking at this situation.
It is definitely a very complicated and complex situation, with different perspectives coming from different sides of the aisle.
The money, supplies, arms, uniforms, equipment etc., had to come from somewhere (smuggled in) since Gaza was under a serious blockade.
There are articles in the Jerusalem Post an Israeli news outlet these headlines Netanyahu's funding for Hamas via Qatar enabled October 7 invasion, Shin Bet reveals https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-844701
According to a leaked diplomatic cable published by Wikileaks, Israeli Defense Intelligence Chief Amos Yadlin explicitly said in 2007 that "Israel would be happy if Hamas took over Gaza because the IDF could then deal with Gaza as a hostile state."
So why has Israel been handing Hamas suitcases with hundreds of millions in cash — while calling them "enemies of civilization" and "bloodthirsty barbarians"?
Do you think the Palestinians would have been better served by having both the West Bank and Gaza run by the PA? Consider that for a moment. I think the beginnings of Hamas were not connected to Israel funding, but to their own agency. The funding would have come later to further the divide and conquer maxim.
And as for a resistance movement, they are likely to accept funding from wherever it comes. We may know it now, but, is it clear that the recipients knew where those Qatari funds originated? But even if they did, they may have believed they could put it to good use, against those doing the funding.
Sorry Dale Ruff, parts of your logic would have seemed partially coherent before - but is defunct now (and anyone that still believes this narrative is still being gaslighted by Israeli propaganda).
WHY?
(1) Israel ALWAYS wanted all the land/resources/etc. of Palestine FROM THE VERY BEGINNING (i.e. BEFORE 1947-1948). If you don't understand THIS, then I suggest reading up on the deep history of Israel/Palestine and the MENA region.
(2) Hence, Hamas - Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades or NOT, Fatah or no Fatah, PLFP Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades or NOT, Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades or NOT, Palestinian Islamic Jihad - Al-Quds Brigades or NOT (and there are several more Palestinian factions) -> Israel WOULD STILL BE pursuing it's original goal of wanting ALL the land.
(3) Israel's intention was ALWAYS ethnic-cleansing, and if that failed, then to use Genocide (or whatever other means) to get ALL of Palestine (not to mention other parts of the MENA region too (i.e. eretz Israel - Sinai Peninsula, parts of Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon).
(4) Israel has given the excuse of Hamas for what it is doing in Gaza, but Hamas was NEVER the reason. Israel doesn't need HAMAS (not even for its FALSE narratives) any longer.
(5) FACTUAL error on your part (which I have addressed earlier) but you seem to want to live in the world of 'alternative facts' (like Trump) at times -> Hamas was created as an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. And Hamas is not the only faction supported (and partly funded) by Israel. So also are Fatah, PA, and many others.
Here is the CRUX of the argument against people that still believe that Israel needs Hamas to justify its ethnic-cleansing/genocide -> Israel would have done much the same if Hamas had NEVER existed. Israel would have done much the same (through maybe in SLOW-MOTION) if Oct 7, 2023 had NEVER happened.
So your argument ("In blunt terms, defeating Hamas would be the defeat of the far right Zionist regime that rules Israel.") is FALSE because the FAR-RIGHT in Israel existed WAY BEFORE Hamas, and will CONTINUE to exist EVEN when/if there is no Palestine.
Dale Ruff, understand this (if nothing else) -> The WHOLE (90%+) of Israeli society IS far-right - with or without Hamas, with or without Palestinians). This is WHAT the society has evolved into and become. So, NO -> Israel's far-right will NOT collapse if Hamas collapses, and Israel doesn't need the "Hamas used as a shield to justify the genocide narrative" any longer.
Here is the TRUTH (in case you haven't realized it). Israel doesn't really need ANY narratives to do what it is doing - isn't that obvious? - it DOESN'T CARE what the rest of the world thinks (as long as it has the support of the U.S. Empire backing it up). You should be able to figure this out by looking at CLIPS of Israeli MSM, Israeli social-media, etc. ISRAEL DOESN'T CARE what the world thinks - because at this point in time, it KNOWS that 'it can GET WAY with ANYTHING'.
Israeli narratives are ONLY meant to keep people COMPLACENT, to keep people HOPEFUL, while in the BACKGROUND, Israel will CONTINUE destroying EVERYTHING about Palestine (people, culture, history, future generations, land, and more).
Hence, to STOP Israel, MASSIVE MILITARY FORCE is ESSENTIAL. All the other options (like BDS, protests, strikes, trade deal nullifications, etc.) are INEFFECTIVE at this point in time.
I agree and glad to see you agreeing with my point, that since the beginning, from 1948 when Israel was founded, the goal was to get rid of the Palestinians and seize their land. I wrote in my final sentence, " And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness of those who brought Hamas into being, propped it up, and need it to continue their goal of getting rid of the Palestinians, which began in 1948 and is in what today can only be called "The Final Solution." At last, you agree with me that what is happening today is a continuation of the goal of creating Greater Israel, which means getting rid of the Palestinians. I suspect you will get ill at the prospect of agreeing with me..so I am ready for your next round of obscenities to crush me like a cockroach. I am sorry you missed the point not that Hamas is necessary (in one form or another) because Israel needs an enemy......for as the IDF correctly pointed out, Hamas cannot be defeated because it is an idea, the idea of arme resistance, and the name given to that resistance is irrelevant, tho today, it is called Hamas. So great to see you agreeing with me, dear friend. Ok, explode......I haven't had my chuckles yet today an you always make me laugh.
Yes, Dale Ruff - I agree with EVERYTHING you said in your comment above (BTW, I think you already know that we agree on many things in many other areas as well).
What I disagree with, is the following line ->
>>"I wrote in my final sentence, " And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness"
You see, Hamas (or whatever entity you wish it to be) were ALWAYS the 'illusory narrative'. Yes, they needed factions for divide-and-conquer reasons (and others).
BUT, they NO LONGER have the need for such narratives. THAT is MY point. They no longer need the 'boogeyman' narratives.
They (i.e. Israel) DON'T CARE any longer what the world thinks. Why? Because THEY KNOW that they can GET AWAY with whatever they wish to do.
Hence, they DON'T NEED the "And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness" hasbara.
The current war regime cannot survive peace, and so it needs an enemy. Hamas is the face of that enemy, embodying the idea of armed resistance. Even if the name were changed, the basic enemy —the right to armed resistance —would not change. That is my point. It is not about what you call the enemy but that you have one, so a regime whose power is based on war (ie emergency powers in a crisis) must not defeat the enemy it needs. "War is the health of the state." Randolph Bourne wrote 100 years ago. "How Bourne Explained It
1. War Unites People Under the State
“The State is the organization of the herd to act offensively or defensively against another herd similarly organized.”
Bourne saw the State as a machinery that thrives on nationalistic unity. War forces the public to suspend criticism, conform to patriotic narratives, and submit to centralized authority. Dissenters become “unpatriotic,” and intellectuals often become cheerleaders for the war machine.
2. War Silences Dissent and Destroys Liberty
Bourne warned that liberty cannot survive war. Free speech, press freedom, and individual rights are quickly curtailed under the banner of “national security.” He saw this as a betrayal of democratic ideals.
“The State has but one face to show to the people — that of a paternalistic, protecting, organizing force, which always has the interest of the whole people at heart. This fiction is easy to sustain in war.”
3. The Intellectual Class Becomes Complicit
Bourne was especially bitter toward liberal intellectuals (like John Dewey) who supported the war in the name of progress. He saw them as sellouts, trading critical thinking for political access.
“Wartime brings the ideal of the State out into very clear relief, and sets it up as an idol to be worshipped.”
4. War Creates a Permanent Expansia Permanent Expansion of State Power
Even after wars end, Bourne argued, the expanded powers of the State rarely recede. Bureaucracies, surveillance, propaganda machines—they all persist, setting the stage for more control in the future.
📚 In Short
Randolph Bourne’s "War is the health of the State" means:
War gives governments justification to suppress freedom, silence opposition, and demand total loyalty.
The State feeds on war like an organism feeds on food—it grows bigger, stronger, and harder to resist.
Intellectuals and citizens often fail to critically evaluate their cooperation, exacerbating the problem"
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Peace is the only real condition under which liberty can thrive." So whatever the name of the enemy, it must exist for state power to grow an expand, which is why nationalism and war are necessary for each other an why the Zionist project of a Greater Israel cannot defeat its enemy, for it needs war (requiring an enemy) as fuel for growth of its expansionist lust.
This is not surprising, the occupying forces of the Israeli Nazis have always acted by terrorist methods. Their goal is the genocide of the local population.
I would also like to point out that Hamas fighters are also humans. They are also entitled to medical care, food and water. They have families, and down time. The idea they 'bed themselves within a civilian population ' is laughable - they are civilians. Their families are civilians. I've never heard of any 'army' blowing up entire streets to target an off-duty soldier. Isn't the whole point of targeting combatants that they are killed while in the act of combat?
They also, according to published and legalistic UN doctrine, have THE RIGHT to VIOLENTLY resist their occupation and subjugation. However legit Hamas is or has been throughout its history (and it's both subtly and not so subtly varied) they are as much in their rights to resist Israeli occupation with violence, covert action or any other means as the Jews and other Nazi concentration camp prisoners were before and during WWII. Could you even imagine a Gaza Genocide apologist trying to say that the Jews (and others) in concentration camps should never have resisted or revolted - and to have relied on "international law" or other imaginary constructs rather than murder their captors and their own would-be eventual murderers?
The whole pretext for calling Hamas or the Palestinians at large "terrorists" is exactly at odds with how our narrative managing master class, including Zionists of any religious persuasion, would want us to look at the Jewish resistance during the rise and fall of Nazi Germany.
Absolutely! Hamas, if they wished, could be bombing and sabotaging Israeli hospitals (as could Yemen), killing Israeli civilians, taking the battle to the streets of Israeli towns and cities. They don’t because of their moral code, something Zionists and western leadership do not have.
And of course Biden was questioned and knew all these medical atrocities were going on but he deflected, since it fit his genocidal world view, to repeating the Gettleman lies instead.
Yes, well hospitals, hospital equipment, medical workers ... they are all involved in saving lives. Why on earth would you want to save the lives of people you are trying to exterminate? How can you ever claim their land if they are staying there, perhaps even recovering, in hospitals?
All the babble about human shields is just to deflect if anyone asks questions ... and because the narrative always reverts to ... "but Hamas (and if that's not enough throw in Oct 7 for good measure)" that means asking further questions makes you antisemitic.
Exactly this 👉🏾 "Yes, well hospitals, hospital equipment, medical workers ... they are all involved in saving lives. Why on earth would you want to save the lives of people you are trying to exterminate? How can you ever claim their land if they are staying there, perhaps even recovering, in hospitals?"
The Genocidal Zionist Forces OCCUPIED one of the medical facilities that they later destroyed. This proves the LIE, of the Hasbarah that State Department SpokesLiar Tammy Bruce recently repeated - that Hamas uses hospitals as bases and human shields. Had Hamas been in that Medical Facility, they would surely have laid an ambush on the soldiers of their oppressors... But no. The ZGF just occupied it for months, and then blew it up, when they were done with it.
Of course hospitals are targets, along with children old people, etc..
The intended message is simple: we can openly commit crimes and nobody can do a thing about it.
100% - See my most recent comment if sorted by "latest." You're spot on. And it goes beyond the scope many may see in your comment. This is a message from POWER to the rest of us that Gaza isn't the last time things like this can and will happen - with impunity. We are next, we just don't know exactly when, and they're laying the groundwork by demonstrating that "rule of law" and basic humanity can and will be abandoned when THEY feel like it.
And one still gets pushback when diagnosing that the entire society is collectively the most blatant example of sociopathy ever manifest. A world that eventually mobilized against the prior modern-era holder of that distinction, Nazi Germany, did so only because its member nations were directly threatened.
But today's fool leaders in the West don't realize that's already happened. Israeli surveillance and other weapons tech has invaded the entire world via Elbit Systems and their other sleazy corporations. By all rights, if Western leaders were awake -- and not hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money -- they'd recognize that Israel is a threat to the entire world and should be bombed into a pile of rubble resembling Dresden in 1945.
Those leaders know full well. They don't care, since they never would dream of bucking the consensus, and they know the consequences for those who do.
Hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money --- but I suppose I should have added "other life amendments up to and not excluding its extinction". I believe that would be the contract with the devil.
Those leaders have been subjected to a program of entrapment and extortion, of which the Epstain/Maxwell operation was a part. That program has a quiet, insidious side effect of creating a self censoring impulse among those observing its effects. Ownership of the media by Zionist adherents enables the control, in that it allows political reputations and credibility to be destroyed at will.
All in all, a diabolical control grid.
Possible, although sociopaths usually know when to kiss up and when to kick down.
>>"By all rights, if Western leaders were awake -- and not hopelessly corrupted by Zionist money..."
Vin, unfortunately the Western leaders ARE WIDE AWAKE (and I wish they were in a COMA instead). Their 'wide awake' means more exploitation/oppression/etc. on the rest of the world (including their own countries) for the pursuit of power, money, security, control, etc.
Too many people seem to have fallen for the narrative of 'Zionist money'. People such as these don't really care if the money is 'Zionist' or not. If one digs deeper down into the motivations (and true beliefs) of such people - they don't really care about any country (yes, not even Israel), or any Religion. They USE the 'narratives and ideologies' of Zionism (or anything else that serves their purposes) as a means towards accomplishing their goals.
If tomorrow another country (that is not Jewish or Zionist) happens to provide the benefits/advantages to 'these Western leaders' that Israel currently provides, then their narratives would change - but their goals/behaviors would not.
Hence I try to implore people to dig deeper and understand at a more holistic level the dynamics involved - it is not really about Jews or Judaism or Israel - it is about doing whatever is necessary to maintain the status-quo, seek power, accumulate more wealth, and remain at the top of social hierarchies. And Capitalism - which underpins much of this - allows such people to maintain the unjust socio-economic hierarchies that we have.
I think you already know, Chang, that I would never disagree that at the root of all this disastrous world-level bloodshed is the kill-for-profit, manipulate, lie, screw anyone for profit ethos of fucking Capitalism. But try raising that on this or any other thread, and it's generally treated as Naah, that's not really the issue, when you and I know that it is indeed at the core of the issue. Because as you point out, socioeconomic injustice and oppression of the many by a few is intrinsic to whatever iteration of the system which appears with each new iteration of humanity, its communications tech and engines of war. The skewed, unjust, imbalanced -- and worst of all entropic with respect to the Biosphere -- system merely adapts to the "advancements" by appropriating them into its arsenal of malfeasances. Sorry, I often no longer have the anti-troll energy that raising these issues usually subsequently requires. You seem to, and I commend you for it.
Yes it is a threat and possibly a lot worse in the US where there are more Evangelical Christians than other countries.
Israeli surveillance, weaponry and methods of coercion go back even further. Look at South and Central American fascist US puppet regimes from Pinochet to Argentina to Colombia to El Salvador. All were aided by Israel.
Been saying the same for months now. They were thrown out of many many countries because of their need go own everything, especially being money lenders who cheats their customers, then trying to take over those countries until it became necessary to kick them out. No one had weapons like this then so getting them out was the best to do. They can never fight on equal terms, which is why they picked on Palestine, a land of farms and olive and orange groves and a peaceful people.
They live for violence as long as the other side can't fight back, they cowardly barbarians who need to be punished and disbanded because world rule is there aim.
EVERY accusation by Israel is an ADMISSION of guilt (and Israel has been trying desperately using its hasbara to hope that the world does not find out).
EVERY behavior by Israel, EVERY social media post by IDF soldiers, EVERY word uttered by Israeli politicians, EVERYTHING Israel does is either (a) an outright lie (b) twisted logic that only psychopaths and sociopaths would agree with (c) bad hasbara and PR
Israel MUST cease to exist (in its current form/incarnation) so that humanity can begin to heal itself!
And PLEASE - someone/something STOP THIS GENOCIDE!!!
Yes
"There is no possible military justification for destroying lifesaving medical equipment. They were destroyed so that they could not be used to save lives."
If these actions don't prove that Israel is deliberately trying to wipe out the entirety of the populace of Gaza, I don't what else to say. It's beyond evil. The zy0nists are killing and maiming and starving innocents, the youngest of the young and their families, and destroying hospitals and medical equipment--all with the help of the US who gladly provides the bombs and bullets. There's no possible MORAL justification to not arrest and imprison all these sick and twisted war criminals asap.
"all with the help of the US who gladly provides the bombs and bullets" - don't forget the complicity of the uk !
Indeed. Not only did the UK murder 10% of the adult Arab population of Palestine in the 1930s "putting down an insurrection" a famous British excuse. But even worse, they instantiated some of the brutal tactics of the IDF by militarily training the Haganah, that early Israeli pile of stinking feces passing for a"defense force".
......and the Mi5 possibly trying to kill Putin in his helicopter.
“All with the hep of the US”. You raise an important point. Zionist supporters (US, UK, Germany, France, Canada, etc.) know exactly what is happening and are every bit as guilty as Israel both as a nation and with respect to the leadership.
A periodic reminder - this is exactly how Ukraine's been behaving since at least 2014 and even before that (look up their shooting down passenger plane over Black Sea when they still had Crimea).
Ukraine has been pining to become another Israel. They enjoy mutual admiration and support. Ukraine is just as disgusting as Israel is - and proudly so.
Yup. As I'm sure you know, the two "countries" also share a rich history of weirdly overlapping ideologues and willingness to engage in terroristic endeavors, often with the overt and covert backing of the US and other NATO countries (or their elites) - dating back to Jabotinsky if not earlier.
You are right, both to mention Jabotinsky, and the early origins.
It goes back much further than CIA programming. The connection is cultural and ideological.
- The "Russian" Jews who formed a large part of the First Aliyah (and all immigration since, including to America) were from Ukraine also.
There's a cultural history of cossackism I think it could be named--a working name anyway. Eastern Europe in general has brutal ethnostatist tendencies--they show up in the neonazi street culture, just look around for discussions of jackbooted thuggery.
The CIA may have taken advantage, without a doubt, but didn't cause the tendency.
- The ideological connection is Nietzsche.
This article https://ghostarchive.org/archive/2hlXy is the one that gave me the hint. (If it doesn't jump out, well, on Oct 7, I had already been reading deeply about the pre-WW1 origins of lumpenprole/lumpenvillager ethnic resentment and rebellion against existing government, in Ukraine, for obvious reasons. So the mention of the Zionist poet and the Ukrainian connection stood out like dayglo paint).
There's more to read on this. 'Nietzsche and Zion' by Jacob Golomb is a good psychological take on the hollow narcissism that drove the early Zionists into Nietzsche's soothing prescriptions for mayhem.
Max Nordau's 'Degeneration', Book 3 ch 5 (on the gutenberg project website) explains the Nietzschean philosophy as it had captured the imaginations of the aspiring Zionist thugs. He himself came up with "muscular judaism", a Jewish take on the Aryan ubermensch--to be achieved by going to Palestine, where brutality and farm labor would give the skinny, bespectacled urban Jew the physique of a hero.
There's so much more... the Zionists were almost all entranced by Nietzsche and what his ravings about amoral ascendancy offered. They focused on the stuff that was a good fit with their own favorite legends about earlier followers of the religion...
As for the Ukrainians, especially the Galicians, they did pretty much the same, with cossacks as their seed of hero-myth. (Jews of Eastern Europe could have said the same, but their religion stopped acquiring history well before they even converted, and instead only acquired layers of obsessive rabbinical mixing and sampling of their "first people" legends).
The irony being that, in Jewish folk memory, the Galicians were the stupidest and most ogrish antisemites of all.
"every accusation is a confession " with narcissists, and that one really pleases me
"even before" is crucial here. Goes back to the early CIA operations of cultural programming and propaganda in Ukraine during the time in which it was part of the USSR.
I am steadfast in my belief that as the song tells us:
They're out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies
And we'll never rest again
Until EVERY Nazi dies.
Hello russian_bot, We haven't forgotten! Even when the horror the Palestinians are subjected to become overwhelming, even then, we shouldn't forget the western world's "the other war".
Russia is fighting a war on all fronts - it is not only fighting Ukraine but the military might of NATO and the US which keep arming Ukraine. The talk of peace is all propaganda. Their media might even equate Putin with the monster in Israel.
Trump's infantile pronouncements of making peace is just hot-air with an eye to the Nobel Prize?!! He cannot get over the fact that Obama got one.
The fact is that right from the start the US/West needed to diminish Russia or get it on side so as to start their war against China.
Yes, indeed. Russian power and military strength are keeping Ukraine and NATO in check and have, in fact, defeated them. That SMO continues with one of the goals, being the attrition of the enemy. With a kill ratio of perhaps as high as 20 AFU-1 RAF now, Ukraine is in its death throes. To counter this, Ukraine can only respond with terrorist strikes using donated weaponry and intelligence. The proposed buffer zone expands as needed.
Russia looks deeper and will end the Nazi ideology gripping the leaders by replacing them. It will do what is necessary to end the nightmare Russian speakers have endured. It aims to address the root causes.
Safety and security are achieved through military strength which Palestine does not have. Only a larger, stronger, and determined force can step in and stop Israel. There is nothing to keep Israel in check.
It is completely maddening to think that Trump, no matter what you think of him, could end this within minutes.
Biden could have stopped it with a phone call--or simply not provided the bombs in the first place. The US has been aiding and abetting Israel since it's inception. The US is equally guilty of genocide.
The thing is that almost every president since Truman has been behind what Israel has done. The genocide of Palestine has been planned long before Israel was created. The world has sat on its ass since the Nakba and has done nothing to stop what Israel has been doing.
Not one country has stepped up and put itself on the line for Palestinians. Not one.
Except YEMEN
Except maybe Yemen.
I completely agree. It’s just crazy to me that an obvious actor like Trump could hold so many lives in his hand. If he would just break from the script this horror would end.
But Trump's masters write the script and pull the puppets' strings. They see nothing but profit and power from this horrific situation in Palestine. We can't rely on any help from a corrupt system bought and paid for by evil men. We must overturn the system to save ourselves and others.
The thing is, and the truth is, we feed the beast that this system is. We have gotten so comfortable with our so-called "civilized" way of life that we do not even think of the means by which our civilization came to be what it is. Those of us in the West, consume, consume and consume some more. We need, use and want all the resources that are derived from the oppression of other peoples in the world. There is a bunch of oil and gas and prime real estate right there were Gaza is. Of course the fat cats get the biggest piece of the pie but it does trickle down to us.
If we overturn the system, what will we replace it with? More of the same? The only way it would not be more of the same is for us, in the so-called civilized world, to give up a whole lot of our creature comforts that are powered by the resources stolen from these oppressed people.
That is the backdrop of all these wars, all wars are bankers wars. We'd not only have to get rid of Trump and his puppet masters, we'd have to get rid of the entire banking system, and all that the banking system supports. Most of us just want to get rid of the figurehead, we don't want to do the hard work on ground level by getting rid of our lavish lifestyles.
Why would common folks vote for billionaires who are so out of touch with them? Because it is the billionaire class, the so called elite class, that the common folk envy and aspire to become.
We'd have to do some serious house cleaning to actually overturn the system effectively enough so as not to recreate it under another guise.
The way things are now, even if Netanyahu slipped on a banana peel and bust his head and died, another scumbag will rise to take his place.
There needs to be a radical and sustainable revolution on the individual level so we can stop producing this madness. To be honest, I really don't know how that would take place on a global level, there are so many moving parts that keep the "system" alive. Even if we scream loud enough to stop "this genocide" I doubt it would prevent any other "genocide" from taking place.
WE ARE ALL PASSENGERS ON THE KILLING TRAIN THE EMPIRE https://topicsfromatoz.substack.com/p/we-are-all-passengers-on-the-killing
Stop paying taxes.
Shut down MSM
And Biden's masters weren't writing his script and pulling his puppet strings?!
Why are you so willing to attribute agency and intent to evil Zionist supporting Democrats than you are to evil Zionist supporting MAGA Republicans?
Israel owns both U.S. parties and the system is rigged for both.
It the Uniparty. It's much clearer to understand what's going on if you understand it as one party, with two different styles, but fundamentally the same.
I know that. I’m as black-pilled as they come. I’m just thinking that if this 78 year old man issued just one lucid statement against this genocide, it would end. I guess I’m hoping against hope that someone in a real position of power will succumb to their conscience.
"hope that someone in a real position of power will succumb to their conscience." That's a great idea. I fear, however, the only way they got to those positions of power was because they don't have a conscience.
>>"I fear, however, the only way they got to those positions of power was because they don't have a conscience."
💯 So true Joy! I contemplate sometimes that the requirements to reach the top-levels of human socio-economic hierarchies (some would frame this as 'being successful') seems MORE to do with 'a lack of conscience/morals/ethics/basic human decency/etc.' than anything else.
PRAY.
Exactly. The Trumanites have taken full control of the levers of power from the Madisonians and their fig leaf or charade of legitimate "democratic" checks and balances in the US.
This book will inform just about anyone willing to learn the how, what and why of US imperial and diplomatic policy.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58339649-american-exception
https://dissidentvoice.org/2023/05/exceptionism-in-us-empire/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377976782_Aaron_Good_2022_American_Exception_Empire_and_the_Deep_State_New_York_Skyhorse_Publishing/fulltext/65c11466790074549768100b/Aaron-Good-2022-American-Exception-Empire-and-the-Deep-State-New-York-Skyhorse-Publishing.pdf?origin=publication_detail&_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uRG93bmxvYWQiLCJwcmV2aW91c1BhZ2UiOiJwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiJ9fQ
Jim, Trump has Miriam Adelson’s shriveled old claw on his nuts ready to twist them off.
I doubt anyone disagrees with you. But Trump is in power now and he's exercising it to an insane degree - except not against Israel, despite some murmurings in the mainstream press about how he's "sidelined" Bibi in the talks with Iran and/or Saudi and/or the ceasefire (read: surrender) with Ansar Allah ("the Houthis").
I suspect his son-in-law Jared Kushner has rotted his brain on the topic even more than general NYC immersion might do.
This book is mostly about the Democrats, but iirc Kushner is mentioned early on. The connection isn't just Zionist, it's Kahanist. https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1654274
The author's youtube channel has a lot more on the topic. The video Kahanistan' is fantastic, as it not only explains Kahanism in Israeli politics, but explains how Israel's politics sorts into 5 chunks, which boil down to the stance on what the Torah says about "chosen people, gifted land", and level of comfort with ultraviolence. Israel's parliamentary politics is about as unstable as Ukraine's, and as hard to untangle from the outside, and the video makes it all clear very quickly.
awesome. it's super late here but I've bookmarked it.
Yeeeessssss!!!!
Israel is systematically targeting Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure. The documentary evidence has been overwhelming for more than a year. So the countries supplying Israel’s munitions and military equipment are unequivocally in breach of the genocide convention. If this convention is ratified in the domestic law of the countries that have ratified it, why are these governments not in court subject to injunctions banning arms exports? The law doesn’t have any meaning. None. Mass murder and genocide will be carried out with impunity. The mass media will pretend it’s not happening. All systems of governance are a sham, violence and the threat of violence is the only thing left. And it’s being used against us every day.
Terrifyingly, this is my view too. Any pretense of international order has been entirely demolished by the world witnessing this barbarism in real time, and apart from Yemen, not one country stepping up to stop the complete annihilation of Palestine. The minute the first hospital became a target, it was game over for us all.
And we will not know the full extent of Shitrael's barbarity until long after Palestine is cleansed: the land now poisoned for generations and the people of Palestine, their history, the richness and beauty of their culture eradicated.
All I can hold onto is the thought that the goodness of Palestine has escaped in a million tiny streams into a sea of consciousness that will one day decide to walk away from all of this dystopia and truly create a better world.
"pretense" is the keyword and does all the heavy lifting there. We're merely witnessing the true powers that be finally abandoning the pretense and dropping the mask. This applies not just to Zionist "Israel" but to her enablers, supporters and apologists who rule over the rest of us in the so-called "free and democratic" West and Oceania.
The rulers no longer need to keep up the pretense.
Oh, but let one Ukrainian Nazi stub his precious little toe while burning dissenters alive, and The Rule Based International Order will harrumph about how Something Must Be Done.
"The law doesn’t have any meaning. None."
Finster's Second Law readeth thusly: "There is no such thing as law. There is only context." The longer form version is as follows: "Laws are for little people. Policy is for The People Who Matter, because policy is what determines when the law is applied, how, and to whom."
🎯 true Feral. Unfortunately, few people understand this. Most are living in the illusions created and maintain by TPTB, oblivious to the intricate dynamics and realities of how principles like 'law, justice, rules, etc.' really function. These 'rules/laws/ordered-systems' by TPTB are often lauded, hailed, and extolled as 'proof of progress of human civilizations and societies' instead of being recognized as "a system that is used to perpetuate might-is-right narratives' (and the oppression, exploitation, injustice, etc. that goes along with it).
From Oct 8, 2023 Israel has done everything to show the world their intention was ethnic cleansing. They bombed hospitals from the beginning with numerous claims that there were Hamas tunnels, and sited a schedule on the wall as some sort of plan by Hamas to kill Israelis.
What other conclusion can you come to, when they bombed hospitals, they didn't just bomb them by accident, they targeted them. And now most all of them are gone or barely operable.
They did that so the injured could not get adequate medical treatment.
They did that so the already infirmed and injured would die without medical treatment.
They did that because civilians had escaped to hospitals thinking they would be safe there but Israel bombed them.
They did that so that there would be no adequate medical supplies for the many people and too many children who would have to have their limbs amputated without anesthesia.
They did it to inflict the most heinous demoralization onto the injured by their shelling and bombing, turning hospitals into screaming and screeching death beds.
They did that to terrorize the volunteer aid workers so that they would not come to assist in the Gaza's hospitals.
They did that to psychologically traumatize the medical staff and aid workers, perhaps making them too unfit to work due to emotional breakdowns.
They did that so that the carnage would be so high it would be virtually impossible to deal with, the morgues were overflowing.
They did that because to them, these people are human animals and according to their Zionist predilection based on some archaic scriptures. They claim that they will not to be punished for killing, starving, maiming, bombing, raping, torturing, kidnapping, etc. Palestinians because they are human animals, Amalek, and therefore, there is no repercussion for them as they systematically genocide them by any means necessary.
These past 20 months have shown that Israel, its government, its IDF, its military planners and its citizens have strategically planned out just how they would get rid of the Palestinians and take over Gaza. Every step they took was headed in that direction from the very day they declared war on Gaza and the Palestinians.
Bombing hospitals is a war crime, but hey, Israel doesn't care about International Humanitarian Laws, they'll just call everyone a Hamas supporter, terrorists supporter or Anti-Semitic. Their cup runneth over no matter what they do, so they simply don't care. Period!
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Thank you for your important posts.
The world of global politics and human relations is in a lawless state. Nothing is being done except moral outrage - which of course is impotent . Impotent like the UN. It makes me feel physically weak as a human that nothing can be done about Israel’s lawless barbarity. “Civilization” means nothing . It is an empty word now.
These devilspawn Colonial/Genocidal Zionists, from Biden and Netanyahu (e.g.) on down the long line...how much can one adequately despise them and wish them all the ills they so richly deserve?
Pity the Palestinians, esp. the kids (not to mention the moms who gestated them and tried to provide childbirth). Mercy to Palestine! (But "mercy" is simply not there.....)
Yes, and should a terrorist attack hit the United States, expect the mawkish wailing "How could they do this to us!?!"
Hamas was created and supported by Israel to divide the Palestinians and prevent a unified demand for statehood. Without Hamas, the current regime would not be in power, for its power is based on an emergency condition requiring an enemy and war. For no regime in in history it been for true, as Randolf Bourne wrote 100 yrs ago that "War is the health of the state."
This being the case, Hamas cannot be defeated, not so much because of its innate strength, but because defeating it would result in the current regime losing power and some ending up in prison for having supported Hamas and corruption. The goal is NOT to defeat Hamas, but rather to use Hamas, as it was prior to Oct 7, used to divide and weaken Palestinian unity, but rather because without an enemy, there can be no war, and with no war, there is no Netanyahu coalition and no justification to block statehood. Hamas must remain, but it has a new purpose: to justify genocide, to rationalize the destruction of the Palestinian people. If Hamas were defeated, as Netanyahu proclaims, there would be no excuse to keep an unpopular regime in control, no more excuse to destroy Gaza and therewith the Palestinian people. In blunt terms, defeating Hamas would be the defeat of the far right Zionist regime that rules Israel. And to put it in even more blunt terms, Hamas is the shield behind which the corrupt Zionist regime running the war hides from the Israeli public.
So when Netanyahu and other Zionist leaders announce that the war will go on until there is no Hamas, what they mean is that the war will go on until the destructioin of the Palestinian people is complete and they either are exterminated, expelled,or subjugated. And when Gaza is no longer livable, as it almost is today, the expulsion of the remaining Gazans will be a survival journey to somewhere where life IS possible.
That is why not only homes full of families but aid workers, medics, schools. universities,and finally hospitals must be destroyed...to make life impossible for the people, and thus resulting in their destruction and for removal, as one would flee a scene where staying meant being killed or starving to death, which would be called by those doing the killing and starving, "voluntary." And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness of those who brought Hamas into being, propped it up, and need it to continue their goal of getting rid of the Palestinians, which began in 1948 and is in what today can only be called "The Final Solution."
But there is one thing about this whole "needing an enemy" so Israel can continue to "war" on its neighbors. It has been reported by DropSite News, the Grayzone and Inlakesh of MintPress News, that Israel is currently arming ISIS and Al Qaeda operatives to distribute humanitarian aid. These operatives/mercenaries/ once called terrorists are a small faction that has been battling with Hamas ever since Hamas came to power. They are also stupid as "sh*t if they think they will not fall under the ire of Israel. So Israel will foment tensions between Hamas and ISIS/ Al Qaeda operatives who are now cattle-logging the starving Palestinians during the distribution of humanitarian aid with food boxes filled with items made in Israel. The supplies coming in from International sources are being block. There is a claim that this is being done to quiet the outcry of starvation, yet Israel is claiming that folks don't look like they're starving. They made the men take off their shirts to show the world. Israel doesn't care about starving the Palestinians. And I would not trust supplies coming in from Israel.
So yeah, Hamas may or may not be completely destroyed, but as is the usual strategy, they are no longer needed, and will be replaced with another "terrorist" faction to keep the need for war ongoing. Israel's economy would flop without billions coming in so it can defend itself.
100% replaced with a CREATED, FUNDED, or ENCOURAGED "terror" (defined and articulated however necessary) faction. I can't believe so many people can't see the prevalence or abundance of this particular tactic over the last 100 years.
>>"but as is the usual strategy, they are no longer needed, and will be replaced with another "terrorist" faction to keep the need for war ongoing."
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All true, but not only that, Hamas was manipulated through infiltration and harassment to initially put "(all) Jews" in their initial charter. This happened at a very specific and historically significant juncture during which, yes, there was hatred or anger directed at "Jews" since that's who had carried out operations (including future ones) like Cast Lead and it wasn't Christians or Hindus stealing their land, murdering & beating them, or imprisoning them without a semblance of due process. IOW - Hamas, like any resistance or ostensible civil government group in an occupied territory and representing occupied people, has a nuanced and varied history.
They were effectively created or at least nursed from an unsure infancy by Israelis and have always served the Zionist occupiers' interest in one form or another depending on when we're talking about - from "See, they hate and want to murder ALL Jews!" to "They were VOTED IN by Gazans (because they kept the streets clean and funded education)!" to "See what those monsters did on October 7?! (despite their "charter" [how many genuine rebel/resistance groups write and PUBLISH a charter?] having been edited to remove any reference to "(all) Jews".
Zionist Israel and her supporters in the West enjoy vast PR dominance that includes narrative control and manipulation. In that sense, Hamas has been both a victim and a pawn, but one that at times has done many good things for the people of Gaza despite the severe limitations imposed upon them while at the same time being funded and supported by those who are limiting them.
What a precarious situation Hamas was put into. Yet, I can't help but wonder why they would let themselves be funded by their enemy. Then Israel just goes and assassinates their leaders. But that's how it goes, these folks fund both sides of the conflict... look at what they are doing in Syria.
So much to delve into here. It's beyond the scope or scale of a simple Internet reply, but I completely agree with you despite wanting and feeling responsible to add much needed nuance and context. Hamas - if one looks at its history - has been, on one level - so many things! Yet on the commonly presented level, always the same thing: a "terrorist Jew hating group" (and almost all of those words deserve their own scare quotes, individually!) It has also been the most effective form of civil/democratic and even secular government in Gaza since 2006. But from every vantage point, the Israelis and their western enablers have managed to cement into the collective consciousness (and EMOTIONAL consciousness) the "terror" and "popularly supported" angle - AND - to meld the two. While either overtly or covertly funding and/or supporting them.
Like you said before - funding both sides of the (in many cases) manufactured (!) conflict.
It's way above my ability to articulate. Scholarly dissertations should be devoted to this historicity and analysis and that's precisely why Trump built on Biden's persecution of the academic endeavor to suss it out, and why it's virtually criminalized in any "democratic" or "western" affiliated country to research and publish such stuff.
Disgusting, really. Kind of like the history of western white supremacy and slavery being systematically rooted out of academia and academia being attacked wholesale to boot.
It really boils the blood. And then if you speak up, folks look at you like you have 2 heads, and nowadays, you just might get deported.
One thing that is for sure, the veil has been lifted. This war on Gaza has everyone who cares, reading, watching, and researching the history of this 100 year conflict, so Israel's hasbara has to go into overdrive to keep up with the revelations coming forth. Bots everywhere, cries of anti-Semitism and laws to protect these vulnerable people. The world has been turned upside down because for the life of me, I can't see how a people with the backing of the West, an iron dome and billions dollars in their arsenal of weapons is so vulnerable.
It's Orwellian. More so than at any point in the past from when he was alive and writing, through the initial post-9/11 lies to now. We're post-reality. How will those of us who value actual reality survive? I do not know. And I've even bought a year's supply of antibiotics, non-gunpowder hunting and survival supplies and a few guns w/ ammo. My wife stocked up the pantry and garage with non-perishable food items. It's fuckin' sad. Why are we here and why are rational, empathetic and knowledgeable/critical people like me feeling this way?
LOL, where you life at? I may need to seek shelter. LOL.
Anyways, just hope no natural disaster hits where you live, cause that would definitely mess up that stock-pile.
We have to use our spiritual power and create a wall of protection around you and your family so that you can be safe. Call on your ancestors, the righteous ones, and ask them to protect you. At this point that is about all we can do. We are living in great and dreadful times.
Historically, from what I have seen, there have always been those who go against the status quo, we are here because we are needed.
I mentioned elsewhere, how do we know when the leaders of Hamas knew where the funds originated, given they were channeled through Qatar? We may be making assumptions based on what we now know, which may have no bearing on the timeline for when they learned this.
Or are you thinking when the funds came through Qatar, they just told them, "Hey, this is from Israel"? If so, why the need for the extra channel?
From my understanding "the leaders of Hamas" are in Qatar and they have received billions of dollars directly from Israel and other sources, cash mind you, then they funneled the money to Hamas. Of course Israel couldn't exactly fund Hamas directly, but they wanted to keep the animosity going between the Palestinian Authority (PA) and Hamas in Gaza. So they supported "indirectly" Hamas. BTW, one of the leaders of Hamas in Qatar, lost his son and grandchildren in an Israeli strike. Dance with the devil but you can't chose the tune.
But seriously... I'm not there, never served in any military, myself... but common sense would say when looking at this situation.
It is definitely a very complicated and complex situation, with different perspectives coming from different sides of the aisle.
The money, supplies, arms, uniforms, equipment etc., had to come from somewhere (smuggled in) since Gaza was under a serious blockade.
There are articles in the Jerusalem Post an Israeli news outlet these headlines Netanyahu's funding for Hamas via Qatar enabled October 7 invasion, Shin Bet reveals https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-844701
Ben Swann: On How Israel Help Make Hamas
https://topicsfromatoz.substack.com/p/ben-swann-on-how-israel-help-make
According to a leaked diplomatic cable published by Wikileaks, Israeli Defense Intelligence Chief Amos Yadlin explicitly said in 2007 that "Israel would be happy if Hamas took over Gaza because the IDF could then deal with Gaza as a hostile state."
So why has Israel been handing Hamas suitcases with hundreds of millions in cash — while calling them "enemies of civilization" and "bloodthirsty barbarians"?
Do you think the Palestinians would have been better served by having both the West Bank and Gaza run by the PA? Consider that for a moment. I think the beginnings of Hamas were not connected to Israel funding, but to their own agency. The funding would have come later to further the divide and conquer maxim.
And as for a resistance movement, they are likely to accept funding from wherever it comes. We may know it now, but, is it clear that the recipients knew where those Qatari funds originated? But even if they did, they may have believed they could put it to good use, against those doing the funding.
Israel was promoting Hamas as far back as the 8 0s when they were not a militia....the goal was to divide and conquer.
Sorry Dale Ruff, parts of your logic would have seemed partially coherent before - but is defunct now (and anyone that still believes this narrative is still being gaslighted by Israeli propaganda).
WHY?
(1) Israel ALWAYS wanted all the land/resources/etc. of Palestine FROM THE VERY BEGINNING (i.e. BEFORE 1947-1948). If you don't understand THIS, then I suggest reading up on the deep history of Israel/Palestine and the MENA region.
(2) Hence, Hamas - Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades or NOT, Fatah or no Fatah, PLFP Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades or NOT, Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades or NOT, Palestinian Islamic Jihad - Al-Quds Brigades or NOT (and there are several more Palestinian factions) -> Israel WOULD STILL BE pursuing it's original goal of wanting ALL the land.
(3) Israel's intention was ALWAYS ethnic-cleansing, and if that failed, then to use Genocide (or whatever other means) to get ALL of Palestine (not to mention other parts of the MENA region too (i.e. eretz Israel - Sinai Peninsula, parts of Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon).
(4) Israel has given the excuse of Hamas for what it is doing in Gaza, but Hamas was NEVER the reason. Israel doesn't need HAMAS (not even for its FALSE narratives) any longer.
(5) FACTUAL error on your part (which I have addressed earlier) but you seem to want to live in the world of 'alternative facts' (like Trump) at times -> Hamas was created as an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. And Hamas is not the only faction supported (and partly funded) by Israel. So also are Fatah, PA, and many others.
Here is the CRUX of the argument against people that still believe that Israel needs Hamas to justify its ethnic-cleansing/genocide -> Israel would have done much the same if Hamas had NEVER existed. Israel would have done much the same (through maybe in SLOW-MOTION) if Oct 7, 2023 had NEVER happened.
So your argument ("In blunt terms, defeating Hamas would be the defeat of the far right Zionist regime that rules Israel.") is FALSE because the FAR-RIGHT in Israel existed WAY BEFORE Hamas, and will CONTINUE to exist EVEN when/if there is no Palestine.
Dale Ruff, understand this (if nothing else) -> The WHOLE (90%+) of Israeli society IS far-right - with or without Hamas, with or without Palestinians). This is WHAT the society has evolved into and become. So, NO -> Israel's far-right will NOT collapse if Hamas collapses, and Israel doesn't need the "Hamas used as a shield to justify the genocide narrative" any longer.
Here is the TRUTH (in case you haven't realized it). Israel doesn't really need ANY narratives to do what it is doing - isn't that obvious? - it DOESN'T CARE what the rest of the world thinks (as long as it has the support of the U.S. Empire backing it up). You should be able to figure this out by looking at CLIPS of Israeli MSM, Israeli social-media, etc. ISRAEL DOESN'T CARE what the world thinks - because at this point in time, it KNOWS that 'it can GET WAY with ANYTHING'.
Israeli narratives are ONLY meant to keep people COMPLACENT, to keep people HOPEFUL, while in the BACKGROUND, Israel will CONTINUE destroying EVERYTHING about Palestine (people, culture, history, future generations, land, and more).
Hence, to STOP Israel, MASSIVE MILITARY FORCE is ESSENTIAL. All the other options (like BDS, protests, strikes, trade deal nullifications, etc.) are INEFFECTIVE at this point in time.
I agree and glad to see you agreeing with my point, that since the beginning, from 1948 when Israel was founded, the goal was to get rid of the Palestinians and seize their land. I wrote in my final sentence, " And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness of those who brought Hamas into being, propped it up, and need it to continue their goal of getting rid of the Palestinians, which began in 1948 and is in what today can only be called "The Final Solution." At last, you agree with me that what is happening today is a continuation of the goal of creating Greater Israel, which means getting rid of the Palestinians. I suspect you will get ill at the prospect of agreeing with me..so I am ready for your next round of obscenities to crush me like a cockroach. I am sorry you missed the point not that Hamas is necessary (in one form or another) because Israel needs an enemy......for as the IDF correctly pointed out, Hamas cannot be defeated because it is an idea, the idea of arme resistance, and the name given to that resistance is irrelevant, tho today, it is called Hamas. So great to see you agreeing with me, dear friend. Ok, explode......I haven't had my chuckles yet today an you always make me laugh.
Yes, Dale Ruff - I agree with EVERYTHING you said in your comment above (BTW, I think you already know that we agree on many things in many other areas as well).
What I disagree with, is the following line ->
>>"I wrote in my final sentence, " And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness"
You see, Hamas (or whatever entity you wish it to be) were ALWAYS the 'illusory narrative'. Yes, they needed factions for divide-and-conquer reasons (and others).
BUT, they NO LONGER have the need for such narratives. THAT is MY point. They no longer need the 'boogeyman' narratives.
They (i.e. Israel) DON'T CARE any longer what the world thinks. Why? Because THEY KNOW that they can GET AWAY with whatever they wish to do.
Hence, they DON'T NEED the "And for this to happen, Hamas must survive as a shield for the genocidal madness" hasbara.
That's what I'm trying to get across to you.
The current war regime cannot survive peace, and so it needs an enemy. Hamas is the face of that enemy, embodying the idea of armed resistance. Even if the name were changed, the basic enemy —the right to armed resistance —would not change. That is my point. It is not about what you call the enemy but that you have one, so a regime whose power is based on war (ie emergency powers in a crisis) must not defeat the enemy it needs. "War is the health of the state." Randolph Bourne wrote 100 years ago. "How Bourne Explained It
1. War Unites People Under the State
“The State is the organization of the herd to act offensively or defensively against another herd similarly organized.”
Bourne saw the State as a machinery that thrives on nationalistic unity. War forces the public to suspend criticism, conform to patriotic narratives, and submit to centralized authority. Dissenters become “unpatriotic,” and intellectuals often become cheerleaders for the war machine.
2. War Silences Dissent and Destroys Liberty
Bourne warned that liberty cannot survive war. Free speech, press freedom, and individual rights are quickly curtailed under the banner of “national security.” He saw this as a betrayal of democratic ideals.
“The State has but one face to show to the people — that of a paternalistic, protecting, organizing force, which always has the interest of the whole people at heart. This fiction is easy to sustain in war.”
3. The Intellectual Class Becomes Complicit
Bourne was especially bitter toward liberal intellectuals (like John Dewey) who supported the war in the name of progress. He saw them as sellouts, trading critical thinking for political access.
“Wartime brings the ideal of the State out into very clear relief, and sets it up as an idol to be worshipped.”
4. War Creates a Permanent Expansia Permanent Expansion of State Power
Even after wars end, Bourne argued, the expanded powers of the State rarely recede. Bureaucracies, surveillance, propaganda machines—they all persist, setting the stage for more control in the future.
📚 In Short
Randolph Bourne’s "War is the health of the State" means:
War gives governments justification to suppress freedom, silence opposition, and demand total loyalty.
The State feeds on war like an organism feeds on food—it grows bigger, stronger, and harder to resist.
Intellectuals and citizens often fail to critically evaluate their cooperation, exacerbating the problem"
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Peace is the only real condition under which liberty can thrive." So whatever the name of the enemy, it must exist for state power to grow an expand, which is why nationalism and war are necessary for each other an why the Zionist project of a Greater Israel cannot defeat its enemy, for it needs war (requiring an enemy) as fuel for growth of its expansionist lust.
If Hamas were to disappear today, Israel would simply choose a new enemy.
Surely you have seen the United States do the same. A Scary Enemy is always needed:
1. To get the rubes to rally round the flag.
2. To head off calls for domestic reform. "We don't have time for that now, we gotta fight Saddam/Milosevic/Putin/Assad/whatever."
3. To unify factions.
4. To justify sky-high military and spy budgets.
5. To provide a pretext for crackdowns on civil liberties.
Note that all of this is entirely bipartisan. Voting Team R or Team D will not help.
This is not surprising, the occupying forces of the Israeli Nazis have always acted by terrorist methods. Their goal is the genocide of the local population.
I would also like to point out that Hamas fighters are also humans. They are also entitled to medical care, food and water. They have families, and down time. The idea they 'bed themselves within a civilian population ' is laughable - they are civilians. Their families are civilians. I've never heard of any 'army' blowing up entire streets to target an off-duty soldier. Isn't the whole point of targeting combatants that they are killed while in the act of combat?
They also, according to published and legalistic UN doctrine, have THE RIGHT to VIOLENTLY resist their occupation and subjugation. However legit Hamas is or has been throughout its history (and it's both subtly and not so subtly varied) they are as much in their rights to resist Israeli occupation with violence, covert action or any other means as the Jews and other Nazi concentration camp prisoners were before and during WWII. Could you even imagine a Gaza Genocide apologist trying to say that the Jews (and others) in concentration camps should never have resisted or revolted - and to have relied on "international law" or other imaginary constructs rather than murder their captors and their own would-be eventual murderers?
The whole pretext for calling Hamas or the Palestinians at large "terrorists" is exactly at odds with how our narrative managing master class, including Zionists of any religious persuasion, would want us to look at the Jewish resistance during the rise and fall of Nazi Germany.
Yes exactly that
>>"I would also like to point out that Hamas fighters are also humans."
I would add that Hamas fighters seem to me MORE human than the Israeli Zionists, and definitely more human than anyone in the IDF.
Absolutely! Hamas, if they wished, could be bombing and sabotaging Israeli hospitals (as could Yemen), killing Israeli civilians, taking the battle to the streets of Israeli towns and cities. They don’t because of their moral code, something Zionists and western leadership do not have.
And of course Biden was questioned and knew all these medical atrocities were going on but he deflected, since it fit his genocidal world view, to repeating the Gettleman lies instead.
Yes, well hospitals, hospital equipment, medical workers ... they are all involved in saving lives. Why on earth would you want to save the lives of people you are trying to exterminate? How can you ever claim their land if they are staying there, perhaps even recovering, in hospitals?
All the babble about human shields is just to deflect if anyone asks questions ... and because the narrative always reverts to ... "but Hamas (and if that's not enough throw in Oct 7 for good measure)" that means asking further questions makes you antisemitic.
Exactly this 👉🏾 "Yes, well hospitals, hospital equipment, medical workers ... they are all involved in saving lives. Why on earth would you want to save the lives of people you are trying to exterminate? How can you ever claim their land if they are staying there, perhaps even recovering, in hospitals?"
The Genocidal Zionist Forces OCCUPIED one of the medical facilities that they later destroyed. This proves the LIE, of the Hasbarah that State Department SpokesLiar Tammy Bruce recently repeated - that Hamas uses hospitals as bases and human shields. Had Hamas been in that Medical Facility, they would surely have laid an ambush on the soldiers of their oppressors... But no. The ZGF just occupied it for months, and then blew it up, when they were done with it.