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Gerda Ho's avatar

Boycott every one of these propaganda films or projects. Israel,is a terrorist country!

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CavyWheek's avatar

They can shove October 7 and all their other propaganda up their asses.

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Susan T's avatar

And now Trump has come up with a flakey peace process whereby Hamas gets out, the Palestiinian people get absolutely nothing, Israel and the US get to continue their genocide and if Hamas says no to this "peace" process, Trump has given permission to Israel to wipe out Hamas, which really means permission to wipe out the Palestinian people. Lies, cruelty, greed all combined to create the most inhumane situation possible for the people of Palestine now and very soon for anyone that they decide can be wiped out.

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David Baird's avatar

Right on, Susan T. And, if you can believe it, which I certainly can, two behind-the-scenes contributors to this 'plan' were Jarrod Kushner and Tony bLiar, er, Blair. Much of the world is now governed by kleptocrats. And they don't give fuck about how many Palestinians are butchered, tortured, dismembered, dispossessed. This latest charade simply confirms their duplicity, utter bastardry and soullessness.

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Sherri Roach's avatar

Correction: they don’t care how many people they butcher, torture, dispossess. The death cult of the elite desire to kill as many of the plebs as necessary as sacrifices to the climate god and that is in no way limited to the Palestinians alone.

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David Baird's avatar

True, but I was addressing this specific issue.

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Probably not.

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Paul Downey's avatar

David, a kleptocracy? In some parts it has looked more like a corporatocracy for many years but now, government by and for the tech bros, well that is called a brolocracy. It is not easy, but please try and keep up!

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David Baird's avatar

I'll settle for plutocracy, which it has been on the road to since Reagan.

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Paul Downey's avatar

Sure, I can't think of a single aspect of our lives where we are not subjected, 24/7, relentlessly by narratives generated by, and for, the billionaire class.

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Ronald Reed's avatar

I like "kakistocracy" myself: rule by the most venal, corrupt, and incompetent.

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David Baird's avatar

OK Paul. I'll settle for pluto

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Margaret Henderson's avatar

Dispossessed, butchered, tortured dismembered, yes the IDF do all these. These conscripts are mostly young men and women with a normal upbringing. How could they take part in such atrocities? Could drugs be responsible?

The Israelis are officially the biggest consumers of opioids in the world. Opiods include the deadly drug fentanyl (alleged to have been taken by George Floyd).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"...with a normal upbringing"

Normal upbringing? I'm not so sure about that...indoctrination and false narratives have a huge role to play in this.

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gypsy33's avatar

Margaret:

WRONG. NO IsraHelli is brought up “normally”, are you kiddin’ me?

How does being indoctrinated with hatred and “chosen-ness” equate normalcy?

Nuthin “normal” about a truly fucked up society in which support of a GENOCIDE is nearly unanimous.

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Susan T's avatar

Being brainwashed with Zionist ideology is not normal. Maybe Nazis were also brainwashed. That was not normal either.

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Baz's avatar

Read Avigail, brought up in Isreal, was able to educate herself on Zionism eventually leaving and renouncing hair is Israeli citizenship and passport. as a psychotherapist she is particularly good on the psychological aspect of being indoctrinated on a societal level.

https://open.substack.com/pub/avigail/p/dont-take-the-bait-how-to-respond

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Susan T's avatar

this is a very long article about Raphael Lemkin who coined the term genocide and who also tried to get people to see what Hitler was up to. There are many parellels to what is happening now in Gaza and how the rest of the world leaders are not reacting.

https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2025/09/29/Raphael-Lemkin-Coined-Word-Genocide/

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wrknight's avatar

But you have to admit, all the bombs they have dropped on the Palestinians were much more expensive and far less effective than the gas ovens. So it would appear the Israelis are just as motivated as the Nazis, but nowhere near as good at their job.

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Davina's avatar

How about... Drumpf gets out and takes satayahu with him to hell, where they are from?

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Aamir Razak's avatar

sounds like a great idea in my view!

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LiberateHumanity's avatar

It's just like how they're trying to get hezbollah out so they can just take lebanon.

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martin's avatar

here the msm make a lot of fuss about that 'peace process' (the blackmail & threat). more so than any pending 10/7 propaganda-blitz in the us and emphasizing that it is supported by the us, israel, western vassals, many arab states and, yes, even mr sg guterres of the un. the pressure on hamas to accept it seems humongous. (the plan seems to be quite the opposite of what is fair and just, but i think one can credit the world-wide anti-genocide movement that 'something' is happening).

i'd suggest hamas ask to amend the plan so that the established fact of the genocide be incorporated in the text and that due procedures involving (complicity of us/european governments, etc...) this fact must be continued. the 60.000+ victims should be examined as murder cases, etc... the genocide convention failed to prevent the genocide, it must not fail in punishing the perpetrators of the genocide and those complicit in it.

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Merekura's avatar

This trump plan is designed to garner sympathy/ understanding for Israel. And ensure subjugation of Palestinians. It’s fkg awful

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Davina's avatar

Oh, we have an understanding of Israel, they are pahrias, torturers, rapists and sodomisers- the last two of their own people like as well.

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David Baird's avatar

Davina, you were close to 'piranhas', which is equally apt, come to think of it.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I remember well, my son fascinated by Piranhas when in Brazil: we were told how they kill (which was not pretty) but when they have sufficient food they stop feeding. Israelis do NOT stop.

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Davina's avatar

Pariahs grr!

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Merekura's avatar

To the informed ‘us’, absolutely, but there are too many westerners still with their heads up their arses. And the propaganda narrative that will be unleashed by legacy media will blame Palestine no matter the outcome of this crappy plan

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wrknight's avatar

And parasites, sucking off the American tit.

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Rosalind Dalefield's avatar

They can stick their propaganda films where the sun don't shine.

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Sanford Sklansky's avatar

60 Minutes had an interview last night with a former hostage. I don't think 60 minutes has had one Palestinian on or some one. I have no idea when this was taped. My wife and I are Jewish. She defends Israel. I have had some arguments with her. I am not sure why she doesn't get. My brother defends Israel as well but I haven't talked to him about it in while. I don't know how anyone can look at all the destruction and deaths and defend what is going on there.

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MM's avatar

Sanford, I'm curious to know what your experience with Judaism and the history of Israel was growing up? How are some Jews like yourself able to call out evil no matter who the perpetrator is, while others believe in Zionism so ardently that they lose all objectivity?

So many young Jews partake in the "rite of passage" (aka free Birthright trip to Israel), sponsored by rich Zionists like the Adlesteins, Bronfmans, etc., which helps promote Israel propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_Israel#Funding

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Sanford Sklansky's avatar

I am 78. I am not religious. I wouldn't say I have much experience with Judaism. I don't think most Jews do. We were hardly a religious family. We went to temple on the high holidays and that was pretty much it. It is when most jews probably go to temple. I have never been to Israel. No doubt a lot of Jews believe what they were fed about Israel. Including myself. It wasn't until after October 7th that I really did some reading. I knew things like the Balfour Declaration and some other things. This is one of the first things I read. https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit Hedges was a mid east correspondent. for the New York Times. He is always interesting to read.

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Sera's avatar

This was a great last paragraph. It’s factual, truthful and firm

I don’t think the world will ever forgive them.

Norm Finklestein did an interview with Katie Halper wherein he suggested that this could all be forgotten in a few years. Israel dominant, Netanyahu a hero to his people. I know he may be right, but I take it as a duty to never let them forget.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"...he suggested that this could all be forgotten in a few years"

I highly doubt it. Anyone that has even an ounce of morality or humanity will find it very hard to forget (IMHO).

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Brianna Amore's avatar

In a few years Gaza will have been razed to the ground and shiny new condo complexes being built on top of the bones of the Palestinians, if Trump and Netenyahu get their way. No way the world is going to forget that.

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Harry Ziboo's avatar

Great post! Truly beyond sick 🤧

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Gnuneo's avatar

The only "Scripted Oct 7th" show I'd ever watch is one that documents the activation of the Hannibal Doctrine; that details who gives the order for the border guards to stand down; that shows the heroism and bravery of the Hamas commandos as they ATTACK THE IDF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS - and defeat them; that shows the deliberate and willful building and pumping of the propaganda machines to push the babies/rape lies; that shows Bibi and his fellow Nazis intending to use this for their own lebensraum genocidal ends; that shows the Kibbutzniks were mainly murdered en masse by the IDF itself; that shows the arrogance of both Israeli and Western Zionazis in the control over Western corporate media and the comprador political classes - perhaps even mentioning in passing the role that Epstein played.

One, in short, that strips the lies AWAY, not plasters them on.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

Don’t forget that they shifted the venue for the Supernova festival to one just a couple of kilometres from the Gaza fence, just three days prior. Local security authorities refused to approve the venue change, but they were overridden by the top echelon in Tel Aviv.

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Gnuneo's avatar

By accounts the Hamas forces were surprised when they encountered the event. Of note, the Kibbutzniks themselves - the ones who live there, not the Israelis attending the rave - were more of the "Lets make some bloody peace with the Palestinians, ffs" opinion.

The IDF commanders put in charge of the whole shitshow were the fanatical religious zealots more beloved of Gvir than the 'leftist' Kibbutzniks - who the right considered "traitors".

The Kibbutzniks themselves are on record as believing they were set-up by the Israeli regime - and then massacred by the regime - and then their deaths were used as justification for the planned genocide.

And then people wonder why Nuttyahoo would prefer to start wars with every neighbouring country than have a proper investigation of those events.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

Whenever anyone mentions 7 October to try and justify genocide, show them the drone footage of hundreds of burnt out cars, and maybe opine about how much the Israeli military loves killing Jews.

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MM's avatar

Just mention October 6th, 5th, 4th, etc...

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Dan Bluemore's avatar

Looking forward to the new documentary humanising the German heroes who put down the terrorist Warsaw ghetto uprising...

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Spunty's avatar

Yep, including where Adolf was a lovely guy, just misunderstood. The Bibi of the 1930s and 40s.

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Brianna Amore's avatar

"Adolph Hitler: Global Pariah or Misunderstood Artist?"

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gypsy33's avatar

Aww Spunty.

Let’s not insult Uncle Adolph here. 😉

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Just sayn's avatar

Trump was just on Tell a vision. Giving full support for the continued and escalation of the Holocaust Genocide against civilians and all Palestinians. Using the extremely lame story of Hamas and Israel hostages. If there were Israeli hostages in Palestine netanyahu already starved them or shot them or bombed the builds they were in ..Zionists don't care about Israeli hostages, after all it has been shown that the IDF killed many Israeli civilians, and not only funded HAMAS but allowed the Oct7 attack so to use it as the excuse to destroy and illegally steal Palestinian land and Gas fields.. Hamas were the legal government of Palestine, they were ,are freedom fighters against the 80 years of Israel aggression . Israel and now full support of Trump the Genocidal Holocaust enabler the world should also turn against the US government. Not Americans. Most are just clueless tax slaves. Fed a daily ration of lies and propaganda of hate. Even some American churches support insane Trump and his terrorist aliy Israel. PBS, CBS, and the rest all Israel controlled sycophant propaganda stations of the Israel regime in DC.

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Spunty's avatar

Don't forget to the USA's vassal states to the list of complicit governments. The UK, Germany, Canada, Australia et al.

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Just sayn's avatar

Are they really US vassals, or Israel's? Through US. All do have US bases. Germany is occupied territory.

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Mikhael's avatar

They're all our bitches.

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Chuck Nasmith's avatar

Blowback is a bitch Israel.

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Velociraver's avatar

Canada does not host any US bases.

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Just sayn's avatar

There used to be joint training. Now after Trump's threats, and Canada's recognition of Palestine, Things may change..Hostility similar to Mexico?? Trade war? Never trust a Trump.

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Velociraver's avatar

The less training we do with USA, the better. It's only slightly less odious than training Nazis in Ukraine.

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Just sayn's avatar

I was pretty sure there was a 5 eyes connection in Canada as there is in Australia

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Davina's avatar

Those will be evangelical church goers, hoping for the Rapture because, having joined these churches(that make the pastors very rich) they believe having been recaptured by the "oh so wealthy" pastor they have been saved, as well as all their family, and will float up to heaven. Why would anyone be believe such nonsense that any living being can free you of any evil you have committed to another soul while doing all you can to become rich, which is no blessing at all, is the most insane promise that can be made by any mortal and, it is unbelievable that any educated person would fall for it.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"unbelievable that any educated person would fall for it."

Education has its purposes, but it is no replacement for critical thinking. If I could wave a magic wand and wish for something, I would wish for all these supposedly 'educated' fools to have their education replaced by critical thinking skills in their heads - of course, TPTB wouldn't like this - as a critical thinker is MORE LIKELY to rise up to and challenge POWER than a 'simple educated' person might.

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Velociraver's avatar

You have yet to display any "critical thinking" in ANY post yet...c'mon, you actually believe the 9/11 "story", which clearly demonstrates an absence of critical thinking.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

HaHa - coming from a 'conspiracy theorist' that has no idea what 'critical thinking' is even if his life depended on it.

You have displayed ZERO credibility (and critical thinking skills) as ascertained by your comments. So my all means, say whatever you need to in order to assuage whatever 'mental/emotional' issues that plague you.

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Velociraver's avatar

Funny, I was going to say the same about you...okay, riddle me this, how did so many insiders take short positions on American Airline stocks in the days before 9/11 and make a fortune without poor knowledge? How did building 7 collapse in free-fall of it's own accord? Why was the investigation rushed, and why did the Monica Lewinsky investigation get 12x the dollars for funding? What about clear evidence of thermite in the debris, and caught on film?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Ok, here we go again (with 9/11 conspiracy theories). I'll humor you for a bit...

>>"what do you think happened to WTC 7"

The collapse of World Trade Center building 7 has grown in importance to conspiracy theorists, especially since standard nonconspiracy explanations for the demise of WTC buildings 1 and 2 became accepted. WTC 7 refers to two buildings at the World Trade Center site, very near WTC buildings 1 and 2, all developed by Larry Silverstein. At 47 stories high and built of red granite masonry, WTC 7 differed significantly from WTCs 1 and 2. When those two buildings collapsed, their falling debris caused significant damage to WTC 7, which included extensive fires that burned all day. Since building 7 was not struck by a plane, and it did not collapse until 5:20 PM on 9/11—hours after the twin towers collapsed—conspiracists say the cause of its collapse must be different from that of WTCs 1 and 2. According to the WTC7.net website, "Fires were observed in Building 7 prior to its collapse, but they were isolated in small parts of the building, and were puny by comparison to other building fires." 12 Any damage from falling debris from WTC 1 and WTC 2 would have needed to be symmetrical, in order to trigger the pancaking collapse of WTC 7.

In point of fact, the fires burning in building 7 were extensive, not isolated. The 9/11 conspiracy theorists tend to only show the north side of WTC 7, which does not look nearly as damaged as the other side. The building burned all day, and emergency response workers realized that collapse was imminent. At 3 PM that day, they began an evacuation of all emergency personnel. According to New York City Fire Department chief Daniel Nigro, he and his firefighters noticed structural deformations of building seven hours before its collapse. He later said, "I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff)." (search -> 9/11 and the Science of Controlled Demolitions). When the building did collapse, the south side went first, which is where the most extensive damage occurred from the falling debris of WTC buildings 1 and 2.

Another way of debunking WTC 7 claims that "WTC building 7 (WTC 7) was intentionally “pulled down” with explosives. The building owner himself was quoted as saying he decided to “pull it.”" -> Building owners do not have authority over emergency personal at a disaster scene. Demolition experts have never heard “pull it” used to refer to an explosive demolition. Demolition explosive experts anticipated the collapse of WTC 7, and they also witnessed it from a few hundred feet away. No one heard detonations.

Read this book -> "Conspiracy: Why the Rational Believe the Irrational" by Michael Shermer (though there are better/more advanced books on the subject). (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61857147)

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Barry Kissin's avatar

Even if it was not an inside job, Oct. 7 cannot begin to justify or excuse the genocide. But it was an inside job whose goal was to provide pretext for eliminating the Palestinians in Greater Israel. Last month, IDF soldier Shalom Sheetrit testified before a Knesset committe that at 5:20 AM on Oct. 7, 2023, his battalion commander conveyed the order that there would be no patrols at the Gaza fence until 9:00 AM. https://www.inn.co.il/news/643371 Given that Hamas breached the Gaza fence beginning at 6:30 AM, this order amounted to a stand-down.

This merely confirms what two extremely pro-Israel commentators said a few days after Oct. 7. Former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn: "There was a decision made to have a security stand-down on the 7th of October for 7 hours on the southern zone....up against the fence line against the Gaza strip, and I'm telling you folks, that wasn't done by happenstance and that's not a coincidence. Somebody made that decision." On another occasion Flynn stated: "I’ve walked the boundary. [The Gaza fence] is one of the most secure borders in the world ... something broke down and it wasn't because of mistakes .. I’m Israel’s biggest fan.” Charlie Kirk who began to question Netanyahu and Israel only a short time before his murder, thought this soon after Oct. 7: "Israel is a fortress ... I find this very hard to believe ... I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wUq3t9f6ug

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Deenzy's avatar

You were doing so well and then mentioned Charlie Kirk’s “murder” lol!! They haven’t even tried to hide how fake that event was. It is literally retarded! It makes Trump’s attempted “assassination” look professional 😂

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Shit, another conspiracy theorist on substack. Figures, as you subscribe to RFK Jr. who is the mother lode of conspiracy theorists (as is Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, David Icke, and their ilk - too many to name here). Apparently, RFK Jr. is some kind of God/deity of conspiracy theorists and science denialists.

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Velociraver's avatar

"Science denialists" is a good term for those who accept the 9/11 narrative 🤡

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Says a conspiracy theorist - HaHa - no wonder the world is going mad - we are living in the 'age of conspiracies' (or conspiracism). [https://www.newsweek.com/age-conspiracism-170628]

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Velociraver's avatar

You're adorable 🤡

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Why thank you! I wish I could say the same for you.

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Stephen Walker's avatar

Instead of addressing any of the evidence he presents, you name call. Speaks volumes.

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Guest's avatar

In the “exchange” Chokaski said it would write an article on the subject. The “exchange” didn’t address any evidence.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Ah, another conspiracy theorist joins and provides support to his co-horts. Maybe you missed my exchange on this topic with Caitlin? I'm not here to provide copy-paste service to every Tom, Dick, & Harry conspiracy theorist out there - they are enough of a problem to humanity as it is.

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SW's avatar

It’s a smoke screen to pretend Israel and Trump are really, really trying to make peace but Hamas just won’t, so what can you do? Part of the plan is Trump and Blair protecting the Palestinians? Two men who have publicly said they want to develop Gaza? What a joke.

This is also a distraction for the approach of the humanitarian flotilla which I predict will be allowed in as “a gesture of Israel’s desire for peace” and to get it off the front page. Netanyahu has no intention of any real peace agreement—a stopgap measure would suit him and that’s all this will be.

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Nicholas Nicholas's avatar

Expect a false flag or new way for them to generate outrage and flood the internet with more of their bullshit.

In the meanwhile boycott everything. Leave comments on their videos outlining their crimes and lies. Flood THEIR content with the truth of the matter.

It’s really easy, they’re committing genocide and mass starvation, they claim Oct 7 and their answer is collective punishment - no matter how they spin, it’s easy to pull apart their lies. Godspeed 🔻

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Nicholas

All these hasbarASS projects are the dying gasps of the Zionazi empire. They’ve no fuckin clue how desperate they look 😁

Lost THAT narrative, didn’t ya, Ziofilth?

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Margaret Henderson's avatar

Hitler was very keen on false flags, Gleiwitz, for example.

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Velociraver's avatar

Not sure one instance equates to "very keen", but ok

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Margaret Henderson's avatar

Hitler had many false flag operations. Gleiwitz was just one of them, probably the best known.

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Velociraver's avatar

Gliewitz and it's accompanying sideshows were are part and parcel of one initiative, Operation Himmler.

Perhaps you can jog my memory as to what these other false flage events were?

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unwarranted's avatar

It won’t work Caitlin because you and your brothers and sisters in the truth purveying media have been stellar and tireless in not merely informing, but also educating a vast number of weary victims of decades of lies and fraudulent hucksters.

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