Thank you, Caitlin, for caring about Muslim voices, something which a tiny minority of westerners do. Obviously the Democrats have abandoned Muslims as did the Republicans long ago. Jill Stein has impressed me tremendously, especially after nominating Butch Ware as her VP. By the way, for those who think all Muslims are antisemitic, Jill Stein is Jewish. We appreciate her solidarity and I for one intend to vote for her, insha'Allah.
Michigan's undecided voters convinced me to do the same. Though there are many articles stating what is probably true, that your voice or vote does not count due to the idea other pundits declare that presidents are selected, not voted upon. History tells us who got the most votes does not add up to who won the election beginning with Bush and his brother in Florida. But for whatever it is worth, win or lose, I am not voting for genocide, meaning either party and I do not fucking care if it takes votes from one party or the other. Both are far too despicable for me to vote for either one, and damn their lessor evil crap, the acceptance of which is a very clear indicator of the future we are all facing. Palestinians are us and if you don't know that then you must be unaware of the multiplicity of cop cities and prisons being built in the USA. Find a source. Look it up. We are indeed in troubled times.
Voting for Harris and the Democrats down ballot is casting your vote in favor of the Holocaust.
No not THAT Holocaust!
Not the 1930s and '40s Holocaust visited upon the Jews by Hitler in Germany.
I mean the Palestinian Holocaust going on right now in Gaza and the West Bank of Palestine by the Israelis.
Indisputably the most documented Holocaust in history, extensively reported on by Al Jazeera and independent Gaza journalists, live streamed to devices around the world on alternative media, but largely ignored by the mainstream Western media and its servile press publications.
When the definitive histories of THIS Holocaust come out, when it's all over by the shouting, Western leaders and their mouthpieces will stand condemned by history as accomplices and enablers, deeply complicit in Israel's genocide.
The US and Britain have supported the Zionist project from the very beginning, decades before the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, giving Israel's genocidal policies their full support.
They should be put on trial just like the Nazi criminals were put on trial at Nuremberg in Germany after World War II, and hanged.
The German nation in particular has now supported TWO genocides.
Oh, I'm well aware of the cop cities and the fact that the borders are locked down. Locking borders down doesn't just keep people out, it locks them in as well😬 I'm more frightened of Harris because Dick Cheney endorsered her. He's a homicidal maniac. This tells me that he thinks Harris is more ruthless and depraved than Trump 🫠
Agree wholeheartedly. We must not glaze over the Republican problem. Their voter base go hand in hand with the DemocRats propagandised rhetoric. Those Christian Zio’s are the mainstay, propping up the apparent “chosen” in the Holy Land, and in support of transforming Gaza into a giant “parking lot”. A good friend of mine married to an American, and living in the US, did not want to hear one word about genocide in Gaza and she didn’t want to discuss politics. No matter horrid genocide and slaughter of humans, she just had not an ounce of compassion for the Palestinians, but only those babies who were murdered and women raped by Hamas. She had no clue, completely misinformed, and unread. But all the same a big fan of Fox News and living a very comfortable life
Team D is all about groupthink. A few weeks ago, it was an Article Of Faith that Biden was "sharp as a tack", maybe just a little under the weather. nothing more.
After almost a year working and protesting alongside many members of the Muslim community in my city, I've learned a lot. They're not taking this "snub" of the Dems lying down. They are fervently "Abandon Harris" and pro-Jill Stein. We're really hoping to see a "Green Michigan" at the very least because it's not just the Arab community up in arms around here. It's students who are struggling with predatory student loans. It's working class folks who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads. Jill Stein and the Green Party have a solid platform that speaks to all these groups and more. The only ones it doesn't speak to? Wealthy white neolib/Dems and Repugs who find "joy" in genocide.
The Zionist influence/support is much larger than the Muslim influence/support. In terms of math and logic - the Dems consider the Zionist influence/support to outweigh any loss from the Muslim base.
Even if the Dems were against Genocide (which they aren't), they would have more to lose by supporting the Muslim base than the Zionist base (which consists of Christian and Jewish Zionists).
The same logic applies to the Republican party. The fact of the matter is - the Muslim base is nowhere near as influential as the Christian base or the Zionist base.
Right you are, Gypsy. We have many Arab-Americans here who are of the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic persuasion. (And many who are non-religious.) But all of them are tired of seeing their relatives being mass murdered on their phone screens daily. It's a powerful movement.
So was the insurrection. I knew they were going to storm the Capitol back in December 2020, the day of the Jericho March. If I figured it out so did every Intel agency on the planet. They knew it was going to happen and they did nothing to stop it. Then nobody did jack shit to prevent what's coming. Trump and company should have been arrested immediately. But it was just business as usual.
What really peeves me about living in the USA is that it really feels like a very unsafe third world country due to its foreign policies and its support of genocide. Since the US gov. was willing to shove the USS Liberty and its maritime soldiers under the bus after the Israeli attack that killed 200 of our bravest and best and then concocted a plan to bring down a plane full of Americans in order to blame it on Cuba; after that the JFK, MLK, Malcolm X assassinations and so many journalists like Gary Webb who was exposing CIA involvement with drug trafficking and was found dead by suicide when he had two shots to the head. We are supposed to believe one shot of a self suicide wasn't enough, he had to kill himself twice. The stories surrounding everything leading us to this point in our history, where we are supporters of genocide and so many other atrocities, are full of holes, lies, and machinations of the "deep state" as everyone calls it without naming the CIA, Mossad, FBI, MI5, MI6, the Allen Dulles who was fired by JFK but sat on the board of investigation into his assassination. SAY WHAT? We could seriously ask who is leading us and we must seriously ask where in the hell are we goiing. There are clues like the construction of cop cities and prisons that should lead to believe something, whatever that "something" is.
I believe the number killed by the Israelis in their attack on the USS Liberty was 34, not 200. Nevertheless, it is an important matter that should not be forgotten.
It is refreshing, Paula to see someone reminding the world about the USS Liberty, a scandal against the leadership of America by Zionist President Johnson of the USA, who just may have been involved also in the JFK matter, JFK a fine President who objected strongly to the development of nuclear weapons in Israel and paid the price. Johnson on the other hand had no such objections.
As well, his call back to the pilots who had taken off from an aircraft carrier to show the Israelis in their unmarked aircraft that their attacking an unarmed US vessel was not part of the game.
This showed clearly that he was under their control and it has just grown since then.
That very moment, the call back of the US aircraft, was the moment the Israelis knew that with a little bit more cunning and corrupt behaviour using their US-based un-American contacts they could own and control the USA.
They have done it. Took a while but 'mission accomplished'
"The fact that Democrats of all levels are so completely incurious and indifferent toward what Muslims in their country have been saying since October shows they are not good people". They are greedy capitalists who have been bought by AIPAC, altho if it wasn't AIPAC buying them, someone else would. They are indifferent to everyone, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Buddhist, whomever. They have no concern about being "good". Wealth and power is all they really want.
Yes. Susan T. Human nature being what it is. Better put, how it has now become.
Too many years have these conditions been in force for 460 AIPAC sponsored members in the USA, knowing their future in political circles depended on the monitoring (and approval) of their statements by the AIPAC bunch of 'non-American foreign operatives', neocons, fellow-travellers, all part of the non-American mix which enables them all to maintain their grip on power and a very acceptable standard of living as a USA-style respected politician. Wow! What other country has such a great system.
I mean to say...'I'll just say how much I support those Israeli genocidists and my salary and conditions will continue. I mean 'who gives a damn in my electorate what I say. I'm popular, surrounded in the House and Congress by other graftees and we all know the signs of success.......continued employment and approval by our party leaders. I mean we are told that this is the current climate , and as our leaders keep saying when we meet, it will continue on for some time yet, so let's keep up the charade.
A great life being a sponsored -by-Israel member of government in this corrupted miitaristic country, far, far away from any war. And the election......? Just another necessary temporary hurdle, (who wins...who cares), but whatever the result, it's back to the good life in January.
Hope it continues. Yes ,perhaps it is is sad about Palestinians and their thousands of deaths. But then again, , all that stuff is a long way away. Not my concern.
The Israeli tail has been wagging the US pitbull dog, the British bulldog, and the German rottweiler since the 1920s, determining the US, UK, and Germany's policies in regard to Israel's genocidal policies from the very beginning of the Zionist settler colonialist project.
But the Zionist project is now coming to an end according to professor Ilan Pape, prominent Israeli historian and chronicler of Israel's distortions and lies about the establishment of the Israeli state and its genocidal policies.
Liberals and democrats, much like conservatives and republicans, are both entire incurious about anyone who does not have something that they want and have to bargain for.
Respect only those who deserve your respect, and mine goes to you both. You point out the truth and makes it clear to those who wouldn't have bothered to look. Always just and caring.
What bigots they are, the white liberal class - if they can shut out the suffering and a genocide of a people because they happen to be the other and their religion is different. Not only that, they will have no qualms in voting for those who are perpetuating the genocide.
Indu, how could you forget to run your stuff by chokaski first. Unforgivable, Indu. First warning.
And you'd BETTER NOTE the difference btw US and Australia (where you are, I believe). Trust chokaski not your own eyes. chokaski everywhere chokaski all-knowing all-seeing maharashi.
Thank you, russian_bot. Even in the misery of a dystopian world, you make me smile. Your acerbic humour, cynicism, language I wouldn't use - is sometimes refreshing.
This would theoreticaly make the CONSERVATIVES->Right Wing, and the LIBERALS->Left Wing (in America). Of course, there is much haziness in the definition (and understanding) of these nomenclatures.
Hello Chang, Thank you for the links. Left and right, liberal and conservative - the meanings of which are distorted beyond recognition ( of their original meaning ) is a given in the land of the free.
The meaning of liberal here in Australia is rather ironic and a misnomer. The Liberal party contains right wing dinosaurs. John Howard took Australia with lies of WMDs to wage war on Iraq. They fit the bill in "neoliberalism".
That's what I'm saying - when you say something like "liberal class are bigots" it does not reflect the liberal ideology in America (or UK, or most other places) as much as it reflects conservative ideology.
Here is one difference between "conservatives" and "liberals" in terms of SOCIAL VIEWS:
Conservatives: Opposed to gay marriage, abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Support the right to bear arms, death penalty, and personal responsibility as an individual.
Liberals: Gay couples to get equal rights like everyone else (e.g. marriage); abortion should be legal; support embryonic stem cell research. Support restrictions and regulation around the right to bear arms.
As to your genocide statement, the Republican party in the US are the party of Conservatives (that support the Genocide and have white Christian Nationalism), while the Democratic party ranges all over from "full supporters" to "opposers".
So your comment reflects the "conservatives" more so than the "liberals" in the US. (Unless you are talking only of Australia).
Also, there are considerable differences between "classical liberalism" and "neoliberalism". Neoliberalism is both a political philosophy and a term used to signify the late-20th-century political reappearance of 19th-century ideas associated with free-market capitalism. As such, anyone that believes in free-market capitalism (which would include many proponents of both conservatives and liberals) is a neo-liberal.
This is quite a shame we got to this place in this country. I will vote for Jill Stein too, it’s not about religion it’s about occupation, oppression, human rights, genocide and abiding by international law. We Arabs and Jews are all the children of Abraham. And we are semites too .
I see Harris as a grinning figure head puppet .. A little flash that the American public eats up .. A fairy tale leader that rescues and delivers them from evil Trump . A carny show . A selfish society “patriotic” and sadly dumbed down with no interest in caring deeply about what happens to a nation of people suffering in a Genocide far away from their own turf. Palestinian people apparently don’t matter in such a narrow scope of world view.
The voting public do not receive media exposure to Jill Stein in a way she deserves . The public is programmed to react to huge media coverage - and candidates with $! (And the perception of only two choices ! ) She is unfairly and unfortunately shoved to the shadows- as is msm coverage of Israel’s madness and atrocities !! The students and mass protestors have offered some hope - I hope they get out in droves and vote wisely .
"It's not about being good, it's about feeling good. It's not about being moral, it's about feeling moral". A phenomena I once called Moral Masturbation. The very essence of western liberalism.
Thank you for your words, which only state the obvious, perhaps, the blatantly obvious.
Less apparent, I suggest, is the fact that there are United States citizens who are Palestinian Christians and other Arab Christians of Syrian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Libyan, Egyptian, Moroccan ethnicity who will not vote for either so-called right or left wing of the "one bird of prey."
Both of my parents were Syrian Christians. Although I am not superstitious, I and other non-muslim, religious and humanist semites will vote for Jill Stein.
Please remember Hillary Clinton defamed and libeled Jill Stein by labeling Jill Stein, MD a "Russian asset."
Arab citizens of the United States have always been ignored, stereotyped, and maligned.
Sad to say but both Canadians and Americans are very insular, anything beyond our borders is of not much concern as we hunker down in fortress North America pointing fingers at the rest of the world.
Thank you, Caitlin, for caring about Muslim voices, something which a tiny minority of westerners do. Obviously the Democrats have abandoned Muslims as did the Republicans long ago. Jill Stein has impressed me tremendously, especially after nominating Butch Ware as her VP. By the way, for those who think all Muslims are antisemitic, Jill Stein is Jewish. We appreciate her solidarity and I for one intend to vote for her, insha'Allah.
Michigan's undecided voters convinced me to do the same. Though there are many articles stating what is probably true, that your voice or vote does not count due to the idea other pundits declare that presidents are selected, not voted upon. History tells us who got the most votes does not add up to who won the election beginning with Bush and his brother in Florida. But for whatever it is worth, win or lose, I am not voting for genocide, meaning either party and I do not fucking care if it takes votes from one party or the other. Both are far too despicable for me to vote for either one, and damn their lessor evil crap, the acceptance of which is a very clear indicator of the future we are all facing. Palestinians are us and if you don't know that then you must be unaware of the multiplicity of cop cities and prisons being built in the USA. Find a source. Look it up. We are indeed in troubled times.
A very accurate comment!
I endorse everything you've said here.
Voting for Harris and the Democrats down ballot is casting your vote in favor of the Holocaust.
No not THAT Holocaust!
Not the 1930s and '40s Holocaust visited upon the Jews by Hitler in Germany.
I mean the Palestinian Holocaust going on right now in Gaza and the West Bank of Palestine by the Israelis.
Indisputably the most documented Holocaust in history, extensively reported on by Al Jazeera and independent Gaza journalists, live streamed to devices around the world on alternative media, but largely ignored by the mainstream Western media and its servile press publications.
When the definitive histories of THIS Holocaust come out, when it's all over by the shouting, Western leaders and their mouthpieces will stand condemned by history as accomplices and enablers, deeply complicit in Israel's genocide.
The US and Britain have supported the Zionist project from the very beginning, decades before the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, giving Israel's genocidal policies their full support.
They should be put on trial just like the Nazi criminals were put on trial at Nuremberg in Germany after World War II, and hanged.
The German nation in particular has now supported TWO genocides.
Quite the record!
Oh, I'm well aware of the cop cities and the fact that the borders are locked down. Locking borders down doesn't just keep people out, it locks them in as well😬 I'm more frightened of Harris because Dick Cheney endorsered her. He's a homicidal maniac. This tells me that he thinks Harris is more ruthless and depraved than Trump 🫠
I don't get this Democrat group think, but it's immoral. Genocide is never okay, and Democrats have been supporting it in every way possible.
Agree wholeheartedly. We must not glaze over the Republican problem. Their voter base go hand in hand with the DemocRats propagandised rhetoric. Those Christian Zio’s are the mainstay, propping up the apparent “chosen” in the Holy Land, and in support of transforming Gaza into a giant “parking lot”. A good friend of mine married to an American, and living in the US, did not want to hear one word about genocide in Gaza and she didn’t want to discuss politics. No matter horrid genocide and slaughter of humans, she just had not an ounce of compassion for the Palestinians, but only those babies who were murdered and women raped by Hamas. She had no clue, completely misinformed, and unread. But all the same a big fan of Fox News and living a very comfortable life
I think you ought to be s bit more selective with your friends.
This may be helpful @Rosehip
https://therevolutioncontinues.substack.com/p/i-want-to-remember-you-as-a-nice
Team D is all about groupthink. A few weeks ago, it was an Article Of Faith that Biden was "sharp as a tack", maybe just a little under the weather. nothing more.
After almost a year working and protesting alongside many members of the Muslim community in my city, I've learned a lot. They're not taking this "snub" of the Dems lying down. They are fervently "Abandon Harris" and pro-Jill Stein. We're really hoping to see a "Green Michigan" at the very least because it's not just the Arab community up in arms around here. It's students who are struggling with predatory student loans. It's working class folks who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads. Jill Stein and the Green Party have a solid platform that speaks to all these groups and more. The only ones it doesn't speak to? Wealthy white neolib/Dems and Repugs who find "joy" in genocide.
Would to God that you prove correct. However, Team D is convinced that it can win without Muslim support.
The Zionist influence/support is much larger than the Muslim influence/support. In terms of math and logic - the Dems consider the Zionist influence/support to outweigh any loss from the Muslim base.
Even if the Dems were against Genocide (which they aren't), they would have more to lose by supporting the Muslim base than the Zionist base (which consists of Christian and Jewish Zionists).
The same logic applies to the Republican party. The fact of the matter is - the Muslim base is nowhere near as influential as the Christian base or the Zionist base.
True, Chang, but it’s growing and remember that a great many Arabs are not Muslim.
Right you are, Gypsy. We have many Arab-Americans here who are of the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic persuasion. (And many who are non-religious.) But all of them are tired of seeing their relatives being mass murdered on their phone screens daily. It's a powerful movement.
Yes, TRC, most of the Arabs in Flint where I grew up were Greek Orthodox.
What's puzzling to me is why Muslims vote for the uniparty at all.
Same reason as pretty much everyone else. "But what if the OTHER side wins?"
For their cause both sides are the same, so unclear why preference.
any human can be brainwashed.
Selections not elections. This is all preplanned.
So was the insurrection. I knew they were going to storm the Capitol back in December 2020, the day of the Jericho March. If I figured it out so did every Intel agency on the planet. They knew it was going to happen and they did nothing to stop it. Then nobody did jack shit to prevent what's coming. Trump and company should have been arrested immediately. But it was just business as usual.
That correct. The Rs and Ds collaborated on this in order to discredit Trump's attempt to subvert the election. The whole story is here.
https://science1arts2and3politics.substack.com/p/capitol-police-chief-exposes-jan
What really peeves me about living in the USA is that it really feels like a very unsafe third world country due to its foreign policies and its support of genocide. Since the US gov. was willing to shove the USS Liberty and its maritime soldiers under the bus after the Israeli attack that killed 200 of our bravest and best and then concocted a plan to bring down a plane full of Americans in order to blame it on Cuba; after that the JFK, MLK, Malcolm X assassinations and so many journalists like Gary Webb who was exposing CIA involvement with drug trafficking and was found dead by suicide when he had two shots to the head. We are supposed to believe one shot of a self suicide wasn't enough, he had to kill himself twice. The stories surrounding everything leading us to this point in our history, where we are supporters of genocide and so many other atrocities, are full of holes, lies, and machinations of the "deep state" as everyone calls it without naming the CIA, Mossad, FBI, MI5, MI6, the Allen Dulles who was fired by JFK but sat on the board of investigation into his assassination. SAY WHAT? We could seriously ask who is leading us and we must seriously ask where in the hell are we goiing. There are clues like the construction of cop cities and prisons that should lead to believe something, whatever that "something" is.
I believe the number killed by the Israelis in their attack on the USS Liberty was 34, not 200. Nevertheless, it is an important matter that should not be forgotten.
It is refreshing, Paula to see someone reminding the world about the USS Liberty, a scandal against the leadership of America by Zionist President Johnson of the USA, who just may have been involved also in the JFK matter, JFK a fine President who objected strongly to the development of nuclear weapons in Israel and paid the price. Johnson on the other hand had no such objections.
As well, his call back to the pilots who had taken off from an aircraft carrier to show the Israelis in their unmarked aircraft that their attacking an unarmed US vessel was not part of the game.
This showed clearly that he was under their control and it has just grown since then.
That very moment, the call back of the US aircraft, was the moment the Israelis knew that with a little bit more cunning and corrupt behaviour using their US-based un-American contacts they could own and control the USA.
They have done it. Took a while but 'mission accomplished'
Can’t forget the false flag terror attack on nine eleven.
TWO shots to the head and THREE steel framed skyscrapers all fall down.
On my hospice calendar it says Patriot Day today, not Patriot Act day???
Not okay!!!
Remember magic bullet? These were two magic planes.
We’re all just a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
"The fact that Democrats of all levels are so completely incurious and indifferent toward what Muslims in their country have been saying since October shows they are not good people". They are greedy capitalists who have been bought by AIPAC, altho if it wasn't AIPAC buying them, someone else would. They are indifferent to everyone, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Buddhist, whomever. They have no concern about being "good". Wealth and power is all they really want.
Yes. Susan T. Human nature being what it is. Better put, how it has now become.
Too many years have these conditions been in force for 460 AIPAC sponsored members in the USA, knowing their future in political circles depended on the monitoring (and approval) of their statements by the AIPAC bunch of 'non-American foreign operatives', neocons, fellow-travellers, all part of the non-American mix which enables them all to maintain their grip on power and a very acceptable standard of living as a USA-style respected politician. Wow! What other country has such a great system.
I mean to say...'I'll just say how much I support those Israeli genocidists and my salary and conditions will continue. I mean 'who gives a damn in my electorate what I say. I'm popular, surrounded in the House and Congress by other graftees and we all know the signs of success.......continued employment and approval by our party leaders. I mean we are told that this is the current climate , and as our leaders keep saying when we meet, it will continue on for some time yet, so let's keep up the charade.
A great life being a sponsored -by-Israel member of government in this corrupted miitaristic country, far, far away from any war. And the election......? Just another necessary temporary hurdle, (who wins...who cares), but whatever the result, it's back to the good life in January.
Hope it continues. Yes ,perhaps it is is sad about Palestinians and their thousands of deaths. But then again, , all that stuff is a long way away. Not my concern.
I don't see greed as necessarily a part of human nature. People learn to be greedy.
Yes. Thank you for your comments.
The Israeli tail has been wagging the US pitbull dog, the British bulldog, and the German rottweiler since the 1920s, determining the US, UK, and Germany's policies in regard to Israel's genocidal policies from the very beginning of the Zionist settler colonialist project.
But the Zionist project is now coming to an end according to professor Ilan Pape, prominent Israeli historian and chronicler of Israel's distortions and lies about the establishment of the Israeli state and its genocidal policies.
Liberals and democrats, much like conservatives and republicans, are both entire incurious about anyone who does not have something that they want and have to bargain for.
I get some Muslim newsletters in my inbox. Jill Stein MD polls #1 in the US among Muslims.
My vote was the same, though that's not my spiritual path.
Caitlin & Tim,
Respect only those who deserve your respect, and mine goes to you both. You point out the truth and makes it clear to those who wouldn't have bothered to look. Always just and caring.
What bigots they are, the white liberal class - if they can shut out the suffering and a genocide of a people because they happen to be the other and their religion is different. Not only that, they will have no qualms in voting for those who are perpetuating the genocide.
Hell, they'll even try to vote shame you if you do not fall in line and vote for genocide.
Indu, how could you forget to run your stuff by chokaski first. Unforgivable, Indu. First warning.
And you'd BETTER NOTE the difference btw US and Australia (where you are, I believe). Trust chokaski not your own eyes. chokaski everywhere chokaski all-knowing all-seeing maharashi.
Or are you going to apologize?
Thank you, russian_bot. Even in the misery of a dystopian world, you make me smile. Your acerbic humour, cynicism, language I wouldn't use - is sometimes refreshing.
FYI, the white conservative class are are larger group of "bigots", and support the Genocide even more so than these so-called liberals.
Note: There is a difference between "liberals" in Australia and the US.
(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_Australia
(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_the_United_States
(3) Why liberals in Australia are right wing while liberals in USA are left wing [https://www.reddit.com/r/friendlyjordies/comments/18m3y7e/why_liberals_in_australia_are_right_wing_while/?rdt=50323]
This would theoreticaly make the CONSERVATIVES->Right Wing, and the LIBERALS->Left Wing (in America). Of course, there is much haziness in the definition (and understanding) of these nomenclatures.
Hello Chang, Thank you for the links. Left and right, liberal and conservative - the meanings of which are distorted beyond recognition ( of their original meaning ) is a given in the land of the free.
The meaning of liberal here in Australia is rather ironic and a misnomer. The Liberal party contains right wing dinosaurs. John Howard took Australia with lies of WMDs to wage war on Iraq. They fit the bill in "neoliberalism".
That's what I'm saying - when you say something like "liberal class are bigots" it does not reflect the liberal ideology in America (or UK, or most other places) as much as it reflects conservative ideology.
Here is one difference between "conservatives" and "liberals" in terms of SOCIAL VIEWS:
Conservatives: Opposed to gay marriage, abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Support the right to bear arms, death penalty, and personal responsibility as an individual.
Liberals: Gay couples to get equal rights like everyone else (e.g. marriage); abortion should be legal; support embryonic stem cell research. Support restrictions and regulation around the right to bear arms.
As to your genocide statement, the Republican party in the US are the party of Conservatives (that support the Genocide and have white Christian Nationalism), while the Democratic party ranges all over from "full supporters" to "opposers".
So your comment reflects the "conservatives" more so than the "liberals" in the US. (Unless you are talking only of Australia).
Also, there are considerable differences between "classical liberalism" and "neoliberalism". Neoliberalism is both a political philosophy and a term used to signify the late-20th-century political reappearance of 19th-century ideas associated with free-market capitalism. As such, anyone that believes in free-market capitalism (which would include many proponents of both conservatives and liberals) is a neo-liberal.
chokaski trust wikipedia in social/political matters, naive dupe chokaski will it ever learn. reddit too oh my 😳
This is quite a shame we got to this place in this country. I will vote for Jill Stein too, it’s not about religion it’s about occupation, oppression, human rights, genocide and abiding by international law. We Arabs and Jews are all the children of Abraham. And we are semites too .
I see Harris as a grinning figure head puppet .. A little flash that the American public eats up .. A fairy tale leader that rescues and delivers them from evil Trump . A carny show . A selfish society “patriotic” and sadly dumbed down with no interest in caring deeply about what happens to a nation of people suffering in a Genocide far away from their own turf. Palestinian people apparently don’t matter in such a narrow scope of world view.
The voting public do not receive media exposure to Jill Stein in a way she deserves . The public is programmed to react to huge media coverage - and candidates with $! (And the perception of only two choices ! ) She is unfairly and unfortunately shoved to the shadows- as is msm coverage of Israel’s madness and atrocities !! The students and mass protestors have offered some hope - I hope they get out in droves and vote wisely .
"It's not about being good, it's about feeling good. It's not about being moral, it's about feeling moral". A phenomena I once called Moral Masturbation. The very essence of western liberalism.
well stated
Ms. Johnston
Thank you for your words, which only state the obvious, perhaps, the blatantly obvious.
Less apparent, I suggest, is the fact that there are United States citizens who are Palestinian Christians and other Arab Christians of Syrian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Libyan, Egyptian, Moroccan ethnicity who will not vote for either so-called right or left wing of the "one bird of prey."
Both of my parents were Syrian Christians. Although I am not superstitious, I and other non-muslim, religious and humanist semites will vote for Jill Stein.
Please remember Hillary Clinton defamed and libeled Jill Stein by labeling Jill Stein, MD a "Russian asset."
Arab citizens of the United States have always been ignored, stereotyped, and maligned.
"Move on. There is nothing to see move on."
dennis hanna
Here are just a few of the Christian groups that support Justice in Palestine. They all need our support:
FOSNA
https://www.fosna.org
SABEEL
https://sabeel.org
https://paxchristiusa.org/
Sad to say but both Canadians and Americans are very insular, anything beyond our borders is of not much concern as we hunker down in fortress North America pointing fingers at the rest of the world.
That democrats are so shockingly going to vote for Harris rather than staying home is amazing to me.
Instead they drag up the fear of a Trump win