Of course they want to send teenage Ukrainians to die for their empire; they sent American teenagers to die for their empire in Vietnam (and gave them about as much choice), so why should we expect them to care more for foreign teenagers?
Let's recall how sordid that episode actually was -- a bloody lottery based on one's birth date. Not: bingo your number came up, you won fifty bucks, but bingo your number came up, you're now eligible cannon fodder. Talk about a meat market. Exceptions for medical school students because they went later as new MDs to be scarred by blood, devitalized tissues, amputated limbs. Of course, the rich, like the Bush family put their sons into ROTC, where many like Dubya simply rode out the war domestically. A typically corrupt American government clown show.
Yes my dad served as a Dr in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the 60s . He was a pathologist and thyroid cancer specialist. He did not see combat but horrors none the less.
Yes but nothing like when he went to the Amazon in the 90s working as a volunteer he saw the worst horror there. The hospital’s microscope was ancient and there was no treatment for the diseases , the biopsy’s were so advanced and the hospital had nothing to treat the patients. He said that was the most demoralizing experience of his life.
My brother was one of the fortunate ones: after he completed his residency, the guvvmint allowed him to serve on a US Air Force base for two years rather than being sent to Nam. Hell, they weren’t gonna use a University of Michigan medical graduate for cannon fodder.
My best friend and his two brothers all volunteered. (Mostly to get off the farm they were raised on, I suspect.) All three were Agent-Oranged and suffered colon cancer; additionally my friend was poisoned at Camp LeJeune.
How sad that your bros were on that roster of AO victims, gypsy. My experience was a tad different. I was actually in first-semester at Columbia U med school, thus deferred. But I hated it for reasons that still make sense to me (except for the filthy shekels). But the instant I dropped out and transferred "downtown" back to grad school into a doctoral program in cell and molecular biology, they immediately reclassified me 1A, eligible to go. My involvement in biomedical research made no difference at all to the dirty effing warhawks. I had a borderline lottery number so was in jeopardy; and there's more to the story but I'll stop there
Yes my uncle ( who immigrated with my grandparents mom and aunt from Latvia as a child) served in Vietnam he was 18 when he went to. He came back. Never the same. Eventually abandoned his wife and small children to die alone in some boarding house years later ( told the owner he had no family) we only found out he was dead when my cousin googled his name ( different spelling from American names) he was a Jr so wanted to see what came up. His dad’s obituary unfortunately.
Read: "Kill Anything That Moves" by Nick Turse, if you want a ringside seat to what our military leaders encouraged their conscripts to do to the civilian population of Vietnam. It was no wonder that so many of them were never the same.
I need no more stories of war. That, I grew up on. I do thank you for the book recommendation though. If I want to get further depressed I will check it out. Maybe some others will check it out.
My Uncle served two tours in Vietnam, stories around the dinner table included his valiant napalming of villages, seeing the burning people FOR TWO TOURS. He would laugh, I was horrified I was related to him. I always enjoyed family get togethers when he wasn't there.
My friend P's two most hated days of the year -- Veterans day & Memorial day. He was drafted, worked as an admin in office daytime, but had to grab a rifle and sit guard duty in a perimeter foxhole some nights where he got lymphoma from AO. They didn't give a damn about US servicemen getting inundated with the poison as they defoliated -- talk about extended contempt for your own. First they draft you to go kill poor peasants who as Muhammad Ali told us "never called me nigger", then they give you cancer by spraying you with poison.
I loved my uncle though I didn’t know him long. He lived in California before he disappeared. I am sorry your uncle got so messed up over there. I’m sorry for all the people that got hurt, killed, damaged ( mentally or physically or both) .
I believe my uncle thought he was doing the right thing when he signed up for the military. Being the youngest sibling he was quite young when they fled Latvia. I’m sure whatever happened to him was a direct result from wars.
I have heard so many stories about my family’s history, and wars. None of them ( including my mom) were really ok after WWII. I’m sure even when my dad served on the atomic bomb commission ( as a pathologist specializing in thyroid cancers , which there was a high rate of due to the bombs) and our family lived in Japan in the 60s my oldest sister went to preschool there. My brother and I born there.
I feel we were all damaged in war , stories of.
I hate wars. Watching what is happening in Ukraine and Gaza is so depressing.
The strength of my relatives on my mom’s side is something I really need to tap into. What they indured . I honestly cannot fathom.
And I’d like to also mention what is happening in the Congo and Sudan. Never ending. Our country likes wars too much, the weapons manufacturers I can see in my head rubbing their hands with glee. $$$$
One of the reasons that wars are always started is that the sons and daughters of the warmongers miraculously never seem to have to put on uniform and die for the cause.
The crazed warmonger Netanyahu has his racist, cowardly son hiding out in the USA whilst his murderous barbarity is playing out.
Perhaps it is time to ask whether the Jew Antony Blinken has children of fighting age and whether they should be forcibly conscripted for the worst, most deadly theatre of US war if so?
Nobody should go - period! Alternatively, nobody should go until the politicians who start the war go and are killed, then the non-politician promoters of the war go and when they are killed the population takes a vote and those who vote “yes” go.
Barron Trump's getting pretty close to draft age, along with Granddaughter Kai Trump. Certainly DJT will encourage them to fight for Isra uhh America First, just like he did. Not.
Blinken also was the Senate whip for rounding up votes for the invasion of defenceless Iraq where a million an Iraqis were murdered for oil. What a monster. But no worries because Mad Dog Albright said “it was worth it”.
That is enough for Blinken to deserve the death sentence. No point in relying on US justice, you only become a judge over there if you pardon all the government criminals.
After the Iran war the Americans were supposed to go into Syria but they got bogged down. As well as Israel fomenting this war now it is also another war against Russia. USA hoping to keep Russia over-taxed.
Assad contrary to propaganda is NOT the bad guy here.
Suggest watching u-tube's many 'analysts' on this.
I've mentioned before that the only word I can find to describe the Ukraine fiasco is "MADNESS." Now that I hear Blinken's comments regarding sending 18 yo Ukrainians to senselessly die I'm thinking SICK.... very very SICK!
We have exhausted, The Soap Box and The Ballot Box and the Jury Box and nothing has changed. the only box left to us common folks to change the current trajectory the politicians and the elites have the west on is the Bullet Box. I wouldn't bother wasting one second's sympathy on the assassination of the CEO of United Health Care. Hopefully that starts a trend. Imagine having a salary of over 10 million per year to rip people off.
Every time I read "the Biden administration" or "the Trump administration" or "the US government" I cringe. Here in Amerika we do not have an administration or a US government. We have an authoritarian regime. A regime. It is far past time we all call it what it is we have here in Amerika. A regime...
When will Israelis realize that the US is treating them exactly like the Ukraine? The IDF is just another attack dog for Washington, unleashed on Syria (and Iran) while being rewarded with Palestinian territory by the grand chess players in the State Department.
The grift must flow. That's why Blinken wants Ukraine to sacrifice its younger population. That's also why that health insurance corporation CEO got assassinated. Watch out, assassinating asshole CEOs could easily become something of an American fad.
That ''assassination'' was likely Deep state, not some disgruntled insured person. The CEO was under investigation for insider trading, etc. Dead Men Tell No Tales.
I don’t think so for the simple reason that they came up with photos of the shooter’s face so quickly. Amazing how all those security cameras on Sixth Avenue worked when the ones in Epstein’s prison didn’t.
No it doesn't. It's one form of justice (amongst many). Violence has its uses (as history shows us).
Quote: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- JFK
Such actions are one part/strategy in waging revolutions against the oppressors.
And BTW, these people (CEOs) aren't assholes - they're MURDERERS (do you know how many people's lives are shortened/ended because of non-coverage/inadequate coverage/denial-of-paid-for-services of health insurance in America?)
"Ukraine barely even has anyone in the country from ages 18 to 25 for various reasons (many of which predate this war), but the managers of the US-centralized empire are pushing to scrape out the few they do have and toss them into the landmines and artillery fire just to keep this unwinnable war going for a few more months."
Just wait until the supply of warm live Ukrainian bodies dwindles further.
This war never was about Ukraine or Ukrainians, Muh Democracy or anything like that.
Another brilliant article. “Al-Qaeda in Syria keeps changing its name for the same reason the military contractor formerly known as Blackwater keeps changing its name: it’s a rebranding to rescue its damaged reputation, stifle public outcry, and ensure further funding from the US government.” Reminded me of how many times Diddy changed his names to escape accountability. If I hear about one more ‘moderate rebel’ or the diversity rebranding of al quaida I’m gonna bowk. Rainbow canard for the sword that chops off your head?
I read yesterday that they are planning a draft of our sons under 26 . Actually they are automatically going to be signed up. Our incoming administration. Israeli has a draft for 18 yr old men and women.
It’s not uncommon. The only thing I can say as one who hates wars of any kind, is at least they would be fighting for their own country. My fear is our sons will be sent to foreign lands .
The only phrase I'd disagree with in your post is that Israeli conscripts are fighting for their own country, seeing as all of Israel is stolen land. But then, as an American whose ancestors came on the Mayflower, I too am living on stolen land.
I hope your sons (and everyone's sons) will stay home and avoid the war machine.
You are so right about Blinken - he doesn't really care about young people dying in an unwinnable war, as long as it is not his own, or that of his family, who are doing the dying. He's a disgusting pro-Israel-above-all-else person who should never been made Sec of State of the US, and which should have warned us where Biden was in his development when he appointed him, just as Trumps' appointments now, and before, tell us about him. I hope he never again works in a US administration.
Of course they want to send teenage Ukrainians to die for their empire; they sent American teenagers to die for their empire in Vietnam (and gave them about as much choice), so why should we expect them to care more for foreign teenagers?
Let's recall how sordid that episode actually was -- a bloody lottery based on one's birth date. Not: bingo your number came up, you won fifty bucks, but bingo your number came up, you're now eligible cannon fodder. Talk about a meat market. Exceptions for medical school students because they went later as new MDs to be scarred by blood, devitalized tissues, amputated limbs. Of course, the rich, like the Bush family put their sons into ROTC, where many like Dubya simply rode out the war domestically. A typically corrupt American government clown show.
Yes my dad served as a Dr in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the 60s . He was a pathologist and thyroid cancer specialist. He did not see combat but horrors none the less.
Ugh! He must have witnessed some horrific tumor growth in that population, thyroid carcinoma and otherwise.
Yes but nothing like when he went to the Amazon in the 90s working as a volunteer he saw the worst horror there. The hospital’s microscope was ancient and there was no treatment for the diseases , the biopsy’s were so advanced and the hospital had nothing to treat the patients. He said that was the most demoralizing experience of his life.
Your father sounds like a hell of a humanitarian -- and it sounds like you're fortunate to have had him as a parent.
Hi Vin
My brother was one of the fortunate ones: after he completed his residency, the guvvmint allowed him to serve on a US Air Force base for two years rather than being sent to Nam. Hell, they weren’t gonna use a University of Michigan medical graduate for cannon fodder.
My best friend and his two brothers all volunteered. (Mostly to get off the farm they were raised on, I suspect.) All three were Agent-Oranged and suffered colon cancer; additionally my friend was poisoned at Camp LeJeune.
What a country.
How sad that your bros were on that roster of AO victims, gypsy. My experience was a tad different. I was actually in first-semester at Columbia U med school, thus deferred. But I hated it for reasons that still make sense to me (except for the filthy shekels). But the instant I dropped out and transferred "downtown" back to grad school into a doctoral program in cell and molecular biology, they immediately reclassified me 1A, eligible to go. My involvement in biomedical research made no difference at all to the dirty effing warhawks. I had a borderline lottery number so was in jeopardy; and there's more to the story but I'll stop there
Hi Jasmine
One of the very best protest songs from the Vietnam era, “Eve of Destruction”, featuring the line:
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’.
18 year olds didn’t receive the right to vote here until 1972.
Yes, many of my peers destroyed “over and over again.”
I know it well
Yes my uncle ( who immigrated with my grandparents mom and aunt from Latvia as a child) served in Vietnam he was 18 when he went to. He came back. Never the same. Eventually abandoned his wife and small children to die alone in some boarding house years later ( told the owner he had no family) we only found out he was dead when my cousin googled his name ( different spelling from American names) he was a Jr so wanted to see what came up. His dad’s obituary unfortunately.
Read: "Kill Anything That Moves" by Nick Turse, if you want a ringside seat to what our military leaders encouraged their conscripts to do to the civilian population of Vietnam. It was no wonder that so many of them were never the same.
I need no more stories of war. That, I grew up on. I do thank you for the book recommendation though. If I want to get further depressed I will check it out. Maybe some others will check it out.
My Uncle served two tours in Vietnam, stories around the dinner table included his valiant napalming of villages, seeing the burning people FOR TWO TOURS. He would laugh, I was horrified I was related to him. I always enjoyed family get togethers when he wasn't there.
My friend P's two most hated days of the year -- Veterans day & Memorial day. He was drafted, worked as an admin in office daytime, but had to grab a rifle and sit guard duty in a perimeter foxhole some nights where he got lymphoma from AO. They didn't give a damn about US servicemen getting inundated with the poison as they defoliated -- talk about extended contempt for your own. First they draft you to go kill poor peasants who as Muhammad Ali told us "never called me nigger", then they give you cancer by spraying you with poison.
Ali was the best!
"Smiling faces as you wait to land. But once you get there no one gives a damn you're in the army now ..."
https://youtu.be/S7WuDYwvCFw
I loved my uncle though I didn’t know him long. He lived in California before he disappeared. I am sorry your uncle got so messed up over there. I’m sorry for all the people that got hurt, killed, damaged ( mentally or physically or both) .
I believe my uncle thought he was doing the right thing when he signed up for the military. Being the youngest sibling he was quite young when they fled Latvia. I’m sure whatever happened to him was a direct result from wars.
I have heard so many stories about my family’s history, and wars. None of them ( including my mom) were really ok after WWII. I’m sure even when my dad served on the atomic bomb commission ( as a pathologist specializing in thyroid cancers , which there was a high rate of due to the bombs) and our family lived in Japan in the 60s my oldest sister went to preschool there. My brother and I born there.
I feel we were all damaged in war , stories of.
I hate wars. Watching what is happening in Ukraine and Gaza is so depressing.
The strength of my relatives on my mom’s side is something I really need to tap into. What they indured . I honestly cannot fathom.
And I’d like to also mention what is happening in the Congo and Sudan. Never ending. Our country likes wars too much, the weapons manufacturers I can see in my head rubbing their hands with glee. $$$$
The best choice was neglecting to register with Selective Service and not talk about it, which worked well for me
I'm pretty sure today's youths in the USSA are auto-registered.
In what?
One of the reasons that wars are always started is that the sons and daughters of the warmongers miraculously never seem to have to put on uniform and die for the cause.
The crazed warmonger Netanyahu has his racist, cowardly son hiding out in the USA whilst his murderous barbarity is playing out.
Perhaps it is time to ask whether the Jew Antony Blinken has children of fighting age and whether they should be forcibly conscripted for the worst, most deadly theatre of US war if so?
Nobody should go unless the children of the politicians are leading the charge.
Nobody should go - period! Alternatively, nobody should go until the politicians who start the war go and are killed, then the non-politician promoters of the war go and when they are killed the population takes a vote and those who vote “yes” go.
Barron Trump's getting pretty close to draft age, along with Granddaughter Kai Trump. Certainly DJT will encourage them to fight for Isra uhh America First, just like he did. Not.
Even worse is that Israel gets our troops to fight its battles while its troops get to stay home and watch ours die for them.
But, Israel's are special friend and greatest ally, don't you know??
Blinken also was the Senate whip for rounding up votes for the invasion of defenceless Iraq where a million an Iraqis were murdered for oil. What a monster. But no worries because Mad Dog Albright said “it was worth it”.
That is enough for Blinken to deserve the death sentence. No point in relying on US justice, you only become a judge over there if you pardon all the government criminals.
Syria. Connect the dots.
This war was started by the USA.
After the Iran war the Americans were supposed to go into Syria but they got bogged down. As well as Israel fomenting this war now it is also another war against Russia. USA hoping to keep Russia over-taxed.
Assad contrary to propaganda is NOT the bad guy here.
Suggest watching u-tube's many 'analysts' on this.
3rd sentence should read Iraq war Not Iran.
I apologise.
Iran is also to this day on the list. Sad but true.
Sudan next!
Yes. It's all NUTZ courtesy of a dying Empire.
We people just don't matter.
I've mentioned before that the only word I can find to describe the Ukraine fiasco is "MADNESS." Now that I hear Blinken's comments regarding sending 18 yo Ukrainians to senselessly die I'm thinking SICK.... very very SICK!
Blinken is another example of the banality of evil
We have exhausted, The Soap Box and The Ballot Box and the Jury Box and nothing has changed. the only box left to us common folks to change the current trajectory the politicians and the elites have the west on is the Bullet Box. I wouldn't bother wasting one second's sympathy on the assassination of the CEO of United Health Care. Hopefully that starts a trend. Imagine having a salary of over 10 million per year to rip people off.
Every time I read "the Biden administration" or "the Trump administration" or "the US government" I cringe. Here in Amerika we do not have an administration or a US government. We have an authoritarian regime. A regime. It is far past time we all call it what it is we have here in Amerika. A regime...
When will Israelis realize that the US is treating them exactly like the Ukraine? The IDF is just another attack dog for Washington, unleashed on Syria (and Iran) while being rewarded with Palestinian territory by the grand chess players in the State Department.
The U.S. has always pushed Israel as another great democracy in that region with the end of making them an ally for the region
It has no desire for Ukraine except as another NATO base against Russia
Let’s hear it for the ByeDone/Blinkin’Idiot Empire:
They’ve managed to nearly eliminate two populations, Ukrainian and Palestinian.
Aw, who cares. They don’t figure into Amerikkka’s world dominance, so fuck em. (S)
The grift must flow. That's why Blinken wants Ukraine to sacrifice its younger population. That's also why that health insurance corporation CEO got assassinated. Watch out, assassinating asshole CEOs could easily become something of an American fad.
Works for me, Ohio B!
That ''assassination'' was likely Deep state, not some disgruntled insured person. The CEO was under investigation for insider trading, etc. Dead Men Tell No Tales.
I don’t think so for the simple reason that they came up with photos of the shooter’s face so quickly. Amazing how all those security cameras on Sixth Avenue worked when the ones in Epstein’s prison didn’t.
Anything's possible. Including that the photos they're showing are fake. And Epstein's living large in Patagonia?
>>"Watch out, assassinating asshole CEOs could easily become something of an American fad."
If only! IMHO, such a fad is desperately needed! We should add ALL billionaires to this list.
Dealing with assholes and/or the problems they create by killing them only makes us the same as them.
>>"only makes us the same as them."
No it doesn't. It's one form of justice (amongst many). Violence has its uses (as history shows us).
Quote: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- JFK
Such actions are one part/strategy in waging revolutions against the oppressors.
And BTW, these people (CEOs) aren't assholes - they're MURDERERS (do you know how many people's lives are shortened/ended because of non-coverage/inadequate coverage/denial-of-paid-for-services of health insurance in America?)
"Ukraine barely even has anyone in the country from ages 18 to 25 for various reasons (many of which predate this war), but the managers of the US-centralized empire are pushing to scrape out the few they do have and toss them into the landmines and artillery fire just to keep this unwinnable war going for a few more months."
Just wait until the supply of warm live Ukrainian bodies dwindles further.
This war never was about Ukraine or Ukrainians, Muh Democracy or anything like that.
There’s nothing democratic about who’s blood gets let.
I disagree
True democracy is based upon MAJORITY RULE
You only have a right to vote
Another brilliant article. “Al-Qaeda in Syria keeps changing its name for the same reason the military contractor formerly known as Blackwater keeps changing its name: it’s a rebranding to rescue its damaged reputation, stifle public outcry, and ensure further funding from the US government.” Reminded me of how many times Diddy changed his names to escape accountability. If I hear about one more ‘moderate rebel’ or the diversity rebranding of al quaida I’m gonna bowk. Rainbow canard for the sword that chops off your head?
Greenwald had a decent genealogy on the “rebel” groups in Syria on yesterday’s show.
Ta. I love Glenn. So calm.
I read yesterday that they are planning a draft of our sons under 26 . Actually they are automatically going to be signed up. Our incoming administration. Israeli has a draft for 18 yr old men and women.
It’s not uncommon. The only thing I can say as one who hates wars of any kind, is at least they would be fighting for their own country. My fear is our sons will be sent to foreign lands .
a draft is a form of INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE - regardess of who forces their labor
Agreed. If only I was wealthy or my sons had “ bone spurs “ I would worry less for my sons and the sons of others.
I grew up on stories of WWII Latvia. It left my extended family to be sent to Siberia.
Joe Biden got deferments because he had asthma and yet he played college football.
WWII was supported by a great deal of propaganda as to how it started and ended and more
Proganda by the state and the press too
The only phrase I'd disagree with in your post is that Israeli conscripts are fighting for their own country, seeing as all of Israel is stolen land. But then, as an American whose ancestors came on the Mayflower, I too am living on stolen land.
I hope your sons (and everyone's sons) will stay home and avoid the war machine.
Find a human not living on stolen land.
They are fighting for a greater Israeli STATE - country is merely the political cover used by many states to support their war as the U.SA. has
That they will automatically sign them up is almost proof that they will try to bring it back
You are so right about Blinken - he doesn't really care about young people dying in an unwinnable war, as long as it is not his own, or that of his family, who are doing the dying. He's a disgusting pro-Israel-above-all-else person who should never been made Sec of State of the US, and which should have warned us where Biden was in his development when he appointed him, just as Trumps' appointments now, and before, tell us about him. I hope he never again works in a US administration.
He’s jewish so that’s to be expected.