I still don’t get how the American Empire managed to earn the “Land of the Free” moniker and how it somehow duped the rest of the globe for decades; empires are never free to begin with anyway, so who are they fooling?
I also don’t get how a country run by and I wish I was exaggerating, but here we are tragically…biblically-mad, armaggedon-obsessed, rapture-believing (e.g. Chuck Schumer, Mike Pompeo, etc), coming-of-the-messiah senate is SOMEHOW supposedly the “voice of reason” in this supposedly-rational rules based-order that they imposed on others. Washington accused Iran of being an Jihadist extremist state, despite the fact that their own leadership behaves like some kind of bible-thumping death cult who are itching to press the nuke button on anyone whom dared mock their precious fairy tale which has been grooming them since birth and they haven’t grown out of their immature, magical-thinking phase yet.
Let's do a survey of these "bible thumping" death cult folks and ask them how often do they go to church. I am hard pressed to believe they are in any way about following or even doing what the Bible teaches them because if they were, they would not be such audacious liars. They are part of a cult but I don't think it's the Bible. There is something more sinister that has their puppet strings. They are just using the Bible as some sort of appeal to the hypnotized Christian Zionists in an attempt to make them think they are in line with them. In my view they are apostates doing what their handlers tell them is the "now" thing to do. They get brownie points and kickbacks for their dancing to the pied piper's tune. And since the Israeli Lobby can make or break them, they will do whatever it takes to stay in the good graces of the Israeli Lobby. They know that their days would be numbered if they step out of line. They know that they would surely go "down" in more ways than 7. So back to my main point. It ain't about the Bible because if it was they would not be such audacious liars!
"It ain't about the Bible because if it was they would not be such audacious liars!" Maybe you haven't actually read the bible? I don't recommend it to anyone without proper preparation for this depraved, genocidal, mass-murder worshipping book. Lying, is a very small matter amongst the crimes told within.
Yep, I certainly have read the Bible, having been raised Catholic, we had Bible study every single day in school. And I do agree, the maniacal “God” in the Old Testament gives one to pause, big time. Then that same “God” had his only begotten son tortured and murdered, so yeah, if read with a keen eye devoid of cognitive dissonance, it certainly would make one wonder.
But to take it a bit further, I often wonder about the “Gods” in other so-called sacred texts and myths. They all seem to have a type of vengefulness against those who don’t toe the line, as it were.
Could it have anything at all, I mean just a little bit at all, to do with the fact that they wrote the Bible in the first place????? You know them good old Scribes who were responsible for writing the Old Testament, dem guys???
Thanks for the clarity. Now that I think about it you are right. I went to Catholic school, it was never called the Torah, it was called the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible.
I was raised Catholic, attended Catholic school until 10th grade, and we had “theology” class each day. We rarely cracked open a Bible. I’m always surprised at Catholics who quote the Bible. It’s nothing more than a Big Book of Horror Stories.
Even state to state, past and present, there are big differences in attendance. I did notice a big move up in attendance after the Covid lock-downs ended and quickly returned to their empty state.
Might be (as an atheist I am not really paying attention), but I assure you the monstrous parking lots of the churches in the 'bible belt' are WELL filled ..
Ha, I know this written with a bit a sarcasm, truth it is true. People generally in the u.s. know their neighborhood, school, marry and stay within it. I work in science and have traveled to many of the latest telescopes and peoples first response, aren't you frightened ha. Seriously, people don't understand how kind, loving, and caring people are around the world if YOU let them be.
Tracking stations all over the world tracked the Apollo missions to and from the Moon through simple triangulation of signals. This included nations who would have loved to prove America was faking the Moon landings. In addition, private ham radio operators all over the world also tracked the Apollo missions. Nobody ever came forward to claim the transmissions' locations were being faked. On later missions, NASA released information to the public explaining where third party observers could expect to see the various craft at specific times according to scheduled launch times and planned trajectories.
Multiple countries, including Russia and China tracked the Apollo 11 spacecraft all the way to the surface of the Moon. Dozens of countries sent congratulatory messages to the US on the accomplishment, including Russia and China. Furthermore, if NASA had pulled off the biggest hoax in history, do you think they would put it at risk by repeating it 6 more times?
I think you have been trolled by an expert : ) I watched it live and that next day everyone wanted to be an astronaut. When my Son was in grade school, I asked his class how many wanted to be an astronaut, Nope not a one. My Son wanted to be a Microbiologist and that is what he is today ha. I am working on an experiment that will launch this yr. I hope. At least my DNA will go into a low Earth orbit for a 1.5 ha.
I would love to know, considering we can see the flag on the moon and it was confirmed by various organizations and powers (including the USSR) to be real.
You don't think photos or videos by NASA or via satellite can be edited? Not saying I believe this (along with the official narratives of the world trade ctr bombings and a lone gunman taking out JFK) just that I keep an open mind.
Don't keep your mind so open that your brains land up falling out. (This is my standard answer to any Zionist that asks me to keep an open mind on Zionist Israeli society treating Palestinians as real equals).
"I still don’t get how the American Empire managed to earn the “Land of the Free” moniker and how it somehow duped the rest of the globe for decades; empires are never free to begin with anyway, so who are they fooling?"
Well, for white people it used to be a lot more free than Europe. Those days are gone.
What? You've got that completely wrong Whyte people were much freer in Europe than in the US. It's just the US people who might think that they were freer than us Europeans, duping themselves.
The US government was founded by Masons and spiritually dedicated to Lucifer that is their god..Masonry comes from the Kabala which is Jewish..Within 7 years of the fall of Jerusalem they were started specifically to infiltrate foreign governments and other bases of power..America is the most warring country in the world..Hope this helps
Those Mayflower people were the original Christian Zionists! They wiped out the East Coast peoples...... Some atheist jews picked up on the idea much later...."religion poisons everything!".
NOPE, My family came over on the second crossing of the Mayflower. Their leader was not a Zionist, he was a freedom of religion leader (his religion). They were Anti-Church of England. Sadly, they were responsible for the clause in our Constitution, Freedom of Religion 1st. Amendment.
I’m happy to say that I’m first-generation Amerikkkan and my people had nothing to do with the genocide against Native Americans. I do feel guilt that my farm was once Chippewa land.
I can’t stand any more lies about Palestinians. I absolutely hate Israel.
Israel is a made up state. It was made in the Nakba where Zionist Jews murdered & raped innocent Palestinians to steal their homes & possessions. There is NO WAY that God is on their side. None.
I don't believe that this ceasefire was meant to stick, I wish and hope to God I am wrong but I think it is a planned gimmick for the inaugural day only, Israel has already killed multiple people in the West Bank and kidnapped(arrested) over 60, they are playing this as a game, release 90 and recuperate 60, a temporary halt in killings in Gaza, no problem let's kill some in West Bank, they have made a joke of Palestinian life. Today settlers burned houses cars and tractors in the West Bank. Just today Trump was talking about the beautiful location of Gaza being on the sea and having perfect weather as a piece of real estate, the same way Jarred Kushner has been talking about development plans for Gaza.
Yes, see this comment by Ohio Barbarian in response to a post by the fantastic Alon Mizrahi:
"I just had a nasty and cynical thought. The ceasefire in Gaza holds for awhile, and that’s all the media and Trump talk about. Meanwhile, they shift the ethnic cleansing campaign to the West Bank and the US Ambassador in Jerusalem will say there is no West Bank, much less a genocide.
"I’m sure they think Trump will recognize an Israeli annexation of the West Bank, and this would be the first test—to see how much he lets them get away with in the West Bank while leaving Gaza mostly alone."
DJT owes Miriam Adelson, AIPAC, the Colonial Conglomerates, the Lords of War and all the Zionists big time. If they want support in attempting to exterminate/ethnically cleanse the Palestinians in whatever rotating order (and they do) - Gaza, West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem...they will get it. "Democrat" or "Republican" same same. Cruelty and death have become a driving perversion and addiction to the zionists. Trump makes "deals" never reported, generally in smoke filled back rooms in Hades realm. DJT is a deluded, inflated puppet thoroughly owned as were all his predecessors.
For now, I am infinitely grateful that the Gazans have this respite, a return of some hope, and the critical food, water and medicines they so desperately need. And that other benevolent forces in the world are gathering the strength to put an end to this nightmare.
“ Israel has a “Biblical right” to the West Bank.”
Better be careful or this could set a precedent for Native Americans to reclaim their land in America and kick all the people out of it.
Israel attacked Syria right after it signed the ceasefire’ with Lebanon. Now it’s attacking the West Bank after the Gaza ‘ceasefire’. There isn’t a Hamas in the West Bank that could kick Israeli buttocks like they have in Gaza.
I think he was joking, because Israelis say they have some ancestral right to the land, when they obviously don’t. Native Americans actually have an ancestral right to the land, but that would never be considered by the US government. It was a stab at the US government hypocrisy. I assume that, based on seeing his previous comments.
In 1968, I learned the truth about Zionism from two family friends who escaped Nazi Germany with just the clothes on their backs, each with suitcase in hand.
They made their way to Israel, and quickly discovered that it was no Jewish Paradise.
It was Nazi Germany all over again:
The Israelis as the Nazis; the Palestinians assigned the role the Jews formerly filled.
They told me that it was the Israelis making cannon fodder of the Arabs.
The Arabs were very poor people who had nothing; the Israelis were armed to the teeth.
“Operation Iron Wall” is an attack on the West Bank city of Jenin that started less than 24 hours after Trump was sworn in. But who’s surprised? He’s repeatedly said he was Israel’s best friend and appointed that fool Mike Huckabee as diplomat who calls the West Bank by its biblical names. I hope the people in Gaza can even temporarily be spared the bombings because they’ll resume as soon as Netanyahu wants them to. Trump was asked yesterday if he thought the ceasefire would hold and he mumbled something about war was unpredictable.
On stage (in addition to Musk doing his war dance and Dr. Strangelove arm thrusts) were a set of human props complete with huge yellow scarves. I don’t know how this can be stopped.
So do the Mexicans ! The Southwest belonged to Mexico, California Arizona Utah Nevada and New Mexico, that was all Spanish/ Mexico land before the Yankees came.
Spain colonized the Native Americans and created Mexico The natives were murdered in masses, just like in Gaza. Spain was a colonial country, just like most Western European countries. They also committed genocide on the Native Americans. They didn’t speak Spanish before Spain colonized them.
Agree, Darkstar. I visit southern Colorado frequently and love the Mexican people and culture.
The Spaniards mixed and intermarried with the Native peoples, unlike the majority of whites from the US. The French also lived among the Native people of what is now Quebec. Because of my Quebecois heritage, I have some Mohawk blood… to which I credit my utter lack of fear of heights!
Awestruck as always by your commentary, Caitlin. Hypocrites! -- the head aches, the heart bleeds, the soul despairs, the body is in sympathetic/empathic pain with the hapless Palestinians....
I particularly liked the Fargo allusion. I too favor the wood chipper treatment for all empire maniacs who fuel the fires of their racism with any variety of religious fable.
I just read today that Trumps 90 moratorium on the US giving funds to other countries EXCLUDES Israel and Ukraine. He's not working for We the People he's working for his mega donors. It's business as usual in Washingtin DC. 😡🤮
I have read both things, total and exclusions. I think they only way we know is if either party starts screaming about more money from the taxpayer. The wealthy don't pay taxes so that is a tax on workers. Capital gains at 14% we are the suckers not having access to carried interest : (
Lying, cheating, and being a stooge for the empire has become a very lucrative career choice for too many. This is what happens when all the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of despots. Bat shit insanity becomes the norm.
Caitlin, Thank you for continuing to lay bare the FALSE NARRATIVES of the Empire and of the rich and powerful (many such examples of them in this article).
Now, we need to somehow AMPLIFY your voice so that MORE PEOPLE (than just your readers) are able to open their eyes.
As you yourself have said many times -> when enough people have realized the truth about how they are constantly being manipulated throughout their lives (by forces that they may not even be aware of), a serious positive change/development can begin to happen.
Yes, those "masses that were freezing" are part of the ones that have to be woken up from their indoctrination, false narratives, and propaganda of the Empire.
THAT is all of OUR JOBS (the ones that have already woken up). It is on us (I believe) to wake them up. We MUST. What other choice do we have? Continue living in this dystopian status quo enviornment with no hope of any positive change?
What is the point of waking up if we are the ONLY ones to do it? To have it mean something, we have to try OUR BEST to wake others up. (Yes, I know that it is extremely challenging, frustrating, and energy-draining - but I really don't see any other alternative. Do you?)
My Friend, I like to think I am a logical thinking person as I clearly see you are most of the time ha. I have no idea where this sh it show goes. At times, I think maybe we are living in a multi Universe reality because, none of it make sense, then a small fraction makes sense destroyed by overwhelming insanity.
I have read as many here have about the 1920/30s world depression the single thing that most intrigues me about FDR when faced with collapsing banking systems. The story goes, FDR said to the top 1% income, I am taxing you at 93% on the wealth you do not return to workers. When the howling began, " I am the only person keeping the pitchforks away from you" I like to think that story was true and the tax rates of the time suggest it is.
Then 2008 and WE cheer Obama, who within seconds became Obummer. The 180deg version of FDR. Up until then Jimmy god fearing Carter man of peace was my greatest regret, the murder of said 1 million East Timor for having the audacity of demanding equality. Then Obummer, I was even more depressed putting all my hope in the magic mirror. Followed by the traitor to all workers around the world Bernie. I have never in my life burned a book until last year. I pulled a hand signed by Bernie Our Revolution thanking me for the 4800$ of contributions and work, held a ceremony with my Son, and we tossed the book on the fire along with all of my childish hopes in others.
So I agree with you and Chris Hedges, this is on us as united people with no divisions. Workers Strike Back, Kshama Sawant is holding a conference on where and how we go forward. Stay tuned my friend, this may show us where we were, where we are and how far we can go together : )
“At times, I think maybe we are living in a multi Universe reality because, none of it make sense, then a small fraction makes sense destroyed by overwhelming insanity.”
That’s exactly where I’m at. “Reality” is so insane that I don’t even know what’s real. I can certainly understand the folks who ignore the evidence in front of their face, because it’s so much easier to put on your blinders, plug your ears, and drink the kool aid. Unfortunately for me, it’s very difficult to unsee once it’s been seen.
From my point of view, the problem with waking people, (besides the problem of not wanting to wake up), is that people are not rational beings. In general we are controlled by our emotions. This means that a rock solid case for the truth is useless unless we can also manipulate (propagandize) people into accepting it. This means that which narrative prevails is more dependent upon which side has the more persuasive advocate than which narrative is closer to the truth. (This is also the inherent flaw in the U.S. legal system),
Eddie - This is what I always say when someone talks about the Bible: What do the rules and regulations of a group or religious sect of two thousand years ago have to do with me? Zilch!
That's the old testament. The new contradicts it completely. It is a bit odd. This shows again that most people are not at all concerned about logical consistency.
I'm sure if you wanted to find the answer to that question (in good faith - pun) then you would. There are plenty of examples of the Bible being used for good things (eg. smacking Netanyahu in the face or the balls with a heavy Bible 🙃). But in all seriousness, yes - lots of people have used it to do good deeds.
(Though I'm guessing your question was rhetorical, right?)
Just seeing that naive (stupid) woman, nominated by Trump for the position of UN Ambassador for the USA, in front of that committee, made me so disgusted. In that room would have been some intelligent people, surely. The words she used, proven to be time and again just plain Israeli lies and the tripe she spoke in that chamber, one incorrect statement after the other, indicated to everyone that whatever you say is the truth........so long as it favours the locally resident Israelis in the USA, the members of the ADL, AIPAC and how many others one can only guess.
She is nothing less than another Nikki Haley, in truth probably nominated by Netanyahu himself.
How can these hearings occur without serious questioning of these nominated applicants. Is this the future for America until one day the greater majority yell "this is enough".
This is the danger we are seeing now and which is likely to continue. Who has the courage to question this in a serious way when the committee involved would have been selected from the elected politicians, 86% having obligations from receiving Israeli resident (local Jewish) funding in last years election, along with the master provider, Elon Musk while Nazi saluting wildly.
Readers today should not think for one second that this type of cleverly controlled by the likes of AIPAC sycophantic behaviour is unique to America. It isn't. In the little (in numbers, big in land mass) USA acolyte called Australia, peppered with USA military outfits, is about to embark on an election of its own. The competition has already started and following the odd swaztika on a synagogue with investigation teams (Jewish naturally) special police efforts, supported by both candidates as they vie for the role as the most grovelling candidate heading for Prime Minister, one trying to outdo the other, every day in every way. And I mean 'any way'.
No. It is not electoral priorities like health provisions, cost of living, climate, housing, or any other matter that graces the pages in a Murdoch rag or pours daily from the mouths of politicians, but good old Israel promoted antiSemitism, the basis of their marketing campaign for elections anywhere in the world from this point on. The average Australian couldn't care less, with the majority hopefully seeing the whole sham as just another Israel campaign. The only conditions required for success being weak politicians, supportive (corrupt) media, alive and well, and money pouring in the right direction, learning from the corrupted USA.
Not 86% corrupt as in he USA in this subservient little country, but on the way. The Israeli circus ramping up in spite of the tennis in Melbourne.
It is all Israeli bunkum but those pathetic little politicians are getting on the Israeli bandwagon as clearly evidenced in the USA and unless someone wakes up in other countries, will be used like The Holocaust was as the marketing theme song for elections, everywhere.
Today's world. One step forward but three back. Look at Trump, Genocide Biden, Starmer in the UK, Scholtz in Germany, Trudeau in Canada and the pathetic example in Australia......and on it goes. More to join those ranks. You can bet on it.
Contrarian 33, You said it all. The Jewish leaders in Australia will have us believe that they feel unsafe with a few antisemitic scrawls on walls. Did they stop to think how unsafe the Palestinians in Gaza have been for the past year and more. Are they comparing their hurt feelings with the suffering of a people in the midst of a genocide..... .
The Bible is not a history book. It’s a religious text. It’s not a document that has validity for fact arbitration.
The US is explicitly a secular state. It’s not even constitutional for a legislator to demand displays of religious faith or religiously based belief from anyone appearing at a hearing held by that institution.
This should produce censure or even expulsion. Like immediately. Because its treasonous towards the republic.
The country has clearly been taken over by some sort of zionist cult “Taliban”..
What’s even more ironic is the US government turning into a religious cult….while telling the entire world, including Afghans, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis , that religiously based states and governments are something forbidden to them.
Modern day Pharisees at work on the age old colonial project there.
Whatever the case, the US is explicitly a secular republic.
Any legislator demanding that a prospective government official should swear allegiance to X religious belief, should be expelled from office. Because it’s treasonous action against the republic.
Imagine thinking you have the moral high ground for literally believing every facade in front of you. The point was not even if the US is secular or not, the point is that it has been operated as a cult for a long time.
Fascists are literally taking power everywhere in the western world and you are here talking about the made up concepts they pretend to respect to make you believe you really are the country of democracy and freedom. Pathetic patronizing liberals.
Yes, except for the outdated examples, and names, it's an excellent commentary on our contemporary situation. I've read, and reread it more than once in recent years.
I have no confidence that Trump will be any better for Palestinians than genocide Joe. Israel's killed over 130 since ceasefire was announced and they're invading Jenin. It will be heartbreaking to watch homecoming Palestinians be forced back into dislocation and mass death. Trump's calling it Israel's war now, as if out of his hands. He just didn't want bombing there on his special day, no different than Obama in 2010. They care more about their special days than about any level of injustice.
I find this one disappointing because while I agree with most of it, I disagree that Elon did a Nazi salute. You need to compare it to the videos of Nazi salutes that go on in Ukraine. Those are the real ones.
@scorpion command, I read all the comments and I have to say that your comment was the one that I resonated with the most. Caitlin's mention of Elon Musk doing a Nazi salute kinda stung a bit for me as well. I wrote about what he did in my newsletter a few hours ago. I also mentioned the Bellamy Salute which was the way people in the US saluted the flag before WWII. It took the angle of the Cult of Personality and Hero Worship that is the real problem. It seems to me to be an oxymoron to say that Musk is a Nazi if he's sucking up to Netanyahu. Musk is just intrepid narcissist who loves center stage and being important. He is socially awkward basket case and was probably very juiced up as you can see by the entire video of his speech (which I included in my newsletter).
THE BELLAMY SALUTE
What’s really unfortunate about all of this, is how uneducated the populace of the USA is about history. Without any knowledge of the Bellamy Salute, they went into full meltdown about what Elon did. They threw the term “Nazi” around, which has literally lost its power, and claimed he is a Nazi! 😲😲 It is utterly amazing how easy it is to trigger these people. Maybe it’s because I’ve been on this planet for 7 decades because to me, it was of no importance. The so-called journalists should know more. Even the ADL didn't mention that. That's the scary part, folks are just uneducated.
Musk is a whiny man-child and a psychopath but he’s not stupid. He did it twice, the second time more like the Nazis did it, and it was meant to send a message to the Nazis and right-wingers that they have arrived voice at the seat of power. To understate what he did or to excuse it is to normalize it. Imagine what the excuse-makers and Zionist groups would have said had Kamala Harris made that gesture.
The bottom line is we do not know what his intentions were. We are merely speculating. The Nazis and right-wingers may take it as a nod to them but they too would be merely speculating unless of course they got together and plotted it. On the other hand, Kamala Harris did do a similar gesture along with many others. I can’t post the pictures here but here are a few links. https://x.com/BoBaDobDobs/status/1882008259261079812/photo/1
>>"The bottom line is we do not know what his intentions were"
You're a funny one "Nana Baakan Agyiriwah"
So, you defend the richest man in the World with a flimsy statement like "we don't know what his intentions were". Seriously??? Please tell me the last time Elon had GOOD intentions.
So how many people thought he was doing a "Bellamy Salute" and how many thought it was something similar to the "Nazi Salute"? Therein lies a clue to the answer.
And you blame the people for not being educated? How many times has Trump done the Bellamy Salute? And if not, then why not?
There are SO MANY WAYS Musk could have indicated his gratitude (i.e. saying Thank you), but he chose this? I don't know about you, but I don't think Musk is stupid.
Musk is an idiot. He reminds me of a man who got a very frisky dog for a pet and has no idea of how to handle it so he bounces around with the dog, gets tangled in the leash when he walks the dog and then blast off his mouth about what a great dog walker he is. Lord have mercy, I am not defending the richest man in the world, which he ain’t even that, but just saying, he ain’t the problem. It’s the human beings stuck in the cult of personality who are the problem. Human beings who need celebs to make them feel powerful. Human beings who clap like seals when a new Superhero is dished out to them. If folks ignored Musk and his antics, he would wither and go away. All I am saying is that if folks knew what real Nazism was they wouldn’t throw that word around so loosely. Trudeau called the people who didn’t want to be vaccinated Nazis, and I don’t think I saw any of them make the Heil Hitler salute.
You're either ignorant or a bot. To say that we don't know his intentions when he props the AfD in Germany, when he amplifies neo nazi voices everyday on his platform, platform he bought to turn into a far right propaganda machine to influence elections all over the world. He grew up in apartheid South Africa, his family money was made on the back of black slaves. He is a proponent of the whole TESCREAL bundle of ideologies which is nothing but repackaged fascism and anti-human bs.
But now we have to consider his intentions... Seriously? After all he has done already? What more do you want, a swastika tattoed in his head? Oh wait, might be just an hindu symbol. I'll guess we have to go with a sign document saying "I am a fascist".
And you know what's even more deranged from people like you? It is the fact that if he really didn't mean it, he would have explained himself and apologise. Like any normal person would do.
So tell me, are you here to convince us that those among the left who see this for what it is are dumb, or are you the ignorant one here thinking they know better than everyone else without knowing ONE THING about Elon Musk?
maybe you missed some subtle history-perspectives about nazi's sucking up to netanyahu/israel and vice versa. but anyway, the author doesn't particularly care about the salute. it's again part of the big opening numbers in the 4 year distractive spectacle.
Yes of course Mush is following a tradition he most likely never heard of. Watch his family on Canadian interview speak about their relationship with the Nazi's the primary reason for the move to South Africa in admiration. Not the first time he has made the salute. Nope we are educated, we just aren't easily fooled. Funny how he didn't use your idea as a diversion.
>>"Even the ADL didn't mention that. That's the scary part, folks are just uneducated."
So obviously the ADL were unaware of the "Bellamy Salute", much like 99% of the US. And you think that "Elon Musk" (of all people) was aware of the Bellamy Salute?
Seriously? I just don't see "your rationale" behind his defense.
Questions:
(1) Who else (in recent history) has performed the Bellamy Salue? (remember: context matters and form matters)
(2) Has Musk EVER done such a salute before today? Why do you think that might be?
(3) Are there reasons why people (that know about the Bellamy Salute) don't do it? So then why did Musk?
I'm surprised at your naviety about the behavior of Elon Musk - a person that is full of stupid antics (like accusing the Thai cave rescuer of being a pedophile, and hundreds of others). What gives? Are you unfamiliar with Musk's psychology and behavior?
FYI: Musk, ADL, Netanyahu, etc. don't really care about Jews. I doubt Netanyahu cares much about Israel either. Musk and Netanyahu care ONLY about themselves and power. Similarly, ADL cares about power and Israel (and not about Jews - as evidenced by ALL THEIR ACTIONS against Jewish protesters and organizations and much more).
“FYI: Musk, ADL, Netanyahu, etc. don't really care about Jews. I doubt Netanyahu cares much about Israel either. Musk and Netanyahu care ONLY about themselves and power. Similarly, ADL cares about power and Israel (and not about Jews - as evidenced by ALL THEIR ACTIONS against Jewish protesters and organizations and much more).”
My sentiments exactly.
Who else in history has performed the Bellamy Salute?
Why are we still here talking about this basket case? Is it paying either of our bills? Is it making either of us younger or healthier?
Out of curtesy I respond but believe me, I still see Musk as a no brainer. If folks want to eat Musk for breakfast, lunch and dinner, rant on. He simply is just not that important to me. What I am more concerned about is how folks make Heroes out of people who do not deserve the crown, not by a long shot.
"... how uneducated the populace of the USA is ..." - most indeed are, but the ones fanning the flames know full well what they're doing. The gullibles' reaction just confirms they're on the right track.
"the ones fanning the flames" if only we knew who they really are we may have a snowballs chance in hell to call them out. There are so many instances of other politicians doing the same "Bellamy" salute and even US citizens saluted their flag just like that before WWII then changed the hand to over the heart because it became associated with the Nazis. https://www.thoughtco.com/why-americans-gave-the-bellamy-salute-3322328
Well, they did just that. Since his family has a Nazi history, the reason they moved to South Africa, it's not hard to understand. Watch it frame by frame, not the first time he has done that. Actually it was a good thing, the reveal was out in the open for the world to see.
Really? Give us a definition of Nazism and point to where it is spelled out in the programs of those parties. Or where did they act that would indicate they are heading in that direction.
You in Canada, on the other hand, cheered on a Nazi in the parliament or whatever. Your government is on record supporting Nazis. You have memorials dedicated to Bandera.
As the Russian saying goes: Чья бы корова мычала, а твоя бы молчала.
What kind of intentions do you think a wealthy runaway that fled the end of South Africa's apartheid and whose family has always been known for their extreme racism and support of segregation + genocide?
I wonder what you also think of his intentions when he's clearly shown disregard for safety regulations and the lives of anyone under his control if it means a tiny bit of extra profit to out into his hidden bank accounts across the world or his open hostility towards South Africa and Palestine?
This. People who are arguing that it's a dog-whistle for the white supremacists so that they know shit's gravy are buying the bullshit that there's a big white supremacist/nazi problem in the US, which has ben Democrat propaganda from day one. Just like Caitlin has correctly argued that anti-semitism is a contrived bugbear used for control, so is the threat of "muh US Nazis," which I have yet to see any evidence of, not for a lack of many interested parties trying for almost a decade. It's just absurd on its face.
I can, to get attention and generate controversy, which he seems to like, and to throw a bone to pro-Whites who are unhappy at his stance of expanding H1Bs. Throwing up a salute isn't much, but some people fall head over heels for tiny gestures like that.
Yeah, agreed. This might be the first time in my entire life I'm actually agreeing with something the ADL said. I don't trust Musk, and I'm not defending him, but the real story there isn't Musk's robotic attempt at ebullience, its the staggering number of Americans whose brains are so cooked by Internet histrionics that unironically melting down that Bad Man #2 went full Nazi mask off seems like a reasonable thing to do. (It's not)
Although I do appreciate the point Caitlin is making about antisemitism being a fearmongering technique rather than an actual problem, because that's exactly right
I still don’t get how the American Empire managed to earn the “Land of the Free” moniker and how it somehow duped the rest of the globe for decades; empires are never free to begin with anyway, so who are they fooling?
I also don’t get how a country run by and I wish I was exaggerating, but here we are tragically…biblically-mad, armaggedon-obsessed, rapture-believing (e.g. Chuck Schumer, Mike Pompeo, etc), coming-of-the-messiah senate is SOMEHOW supposedly the “voice of reason” in this supposedly-rational rules based-order that they imposed on others. Washington accused Iran of being an Jihadist extremist state, despite the fact that their own leadership behaves like some kind of bible-thumping death cult who are itching to press the nuke button on anyone whom dared mock their precious fairy tale which has been grooming them since birth and they haven’t grown out of their immature, magical-thinking phase yet.
Let's do a survey of these "bible thumping" death cult folks and ask them how often do they go to church. I am hard pressed to believe they are in any way about following or even doing what the Bible teaches them because if they were, they would not be such audacious liars. They are part of a cult but I don't think it's the Bible. There is something more sinister that has their puppet strings. They are just using the Bible as some sort of appeal to the hypnotized Christian Zionists in an attempt to make them think they are in line with them. In my view they are apostates doing what their handlers tell them is the "now" thing to do. They get brownie points and kickbacks for their dancing to the pied piper's tune. And since the Israeli Lobby can make or break them, they will do whatever it takes to stay in the good graces of the Israeli Lobby. They know that their days would be numbered if they step out of line. They know that they would surely go "down" in more ways than 7. So back to my main point. It ain't about the Bible because if it was they would not be such audacious liars!
"It ain't about the Bible because if it was they would not be such audacious liars!" Maybe you haven't actually read the bible? I don't recommend it to anyone without proper preparation for this depraved, genocidal, mass-murder worshipping book. Lying, is a very small matter amongst the crimes told within.
Yep, I certainly have read the Bible, having been raised Catholic, we had Bible study every single day in school. And I do agree, the maniacal “God” in the Old Testament gives one to pause, big time. Then that same “God” had his only begotten son tortured and murdered, so yeah, if read with a keen eye devoid of cognitive dissonance, it certainly would make one wonder.
But to take it a bit further, I often wonder about the “Gods” in other so-called sacred texts and myths. They all seem to have a type of vengefulness against those who don’t toe the line, as it were.
Well said! I have never read the bible cover to cover! But lets face it the Jews have always been there since biblical times
And Native Americans have been HERE since biblical times. What’s yer point?
Could it have anything at all, I mean just a little bit at all, to do with the fact that they wrote the Bible in the first place????? You know them good old Scribes who were responsible for writing the Old Testament, dem guys???
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I think you mean the Torah.
Is the Torah different from the Old Testament?
No, The Old Testament has many more books and it starts with the first five books which constitute the Torah.
Thanks for the clarity. Now that I think about it you are right. I went to Catholic school, it was never called the Torah, it was called the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible.
Hi Joy
I was raised Catholic, attended Catholic school until 10th grade, and we had “theology” class each day. We rarely cracked open a Bible. I’m always surprised at Catholics who quote the Bible. It’s nothing more than a Big Book of Horror Stories.
It’s good to be Pagan 😁
It's actually easy to see traveling on a Sunday morning, take a glance at the church parking lots. It's an eye opener how few people are there.
Depends in WHICH STATE you live!
Even state to state, past and present, there are big differences in attendance. I did notice a big move up in attendance after the Covid lock-downs ended and quickly returned to their empty state.
Might be (as an atheist I am not really paying attention), but I assure you the monstrous parking lots of the churches in the 'bible belt' are WELL filled ..
I wonder if they are making up for my lack of attendance : )
Ahhh, the Mega Churches.. The seedy little entities that are closely connected to the CIA, those churches?? The Hidden Hand Behind Mega Churches https://rumble.com/v44gl6x-the-hidden-hand-behind-mega-churches.html
Boy did you hit the nail on the head!
Beware of the false messiah., or in this case messiahs. Everyone of these evil demons is on the religious bandwagon and no one seems to notice.
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https://substack.com/profile/18915249-eomar/note/c-87898389?r=b9f3l&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
17% of US adults think the Earth is flat. 29% believe the moon landings are a hoax. That's a lot of voters.
And most US Americans don't have maps so cannot understand world events.
Ha, I know this written with a bit a sarcasm, truth it is true. People generally in the u.s. know their neighborhood, school, marry and stay within it. I work in science and have traveled to many of the latest telescopes and peoples first response, aren't you frightened ha. Seriously, people don't understand how kind, loving, and caring people are around the world if YOU let them be.
It’s astounding that anyone believes the moon landings were real.
Someone said nuclear weapons were a hoax. That would be pretty cool.
But they’re obviously not but people are dumb
I do wonder sometimes if Israel is bluffing about having nukes...
Tracking stations all over the world tracked the Apollo missions to and from the Moon through simple triangulation of signals. This included nations who would have loved to prove America was faking the Moon landings. In addition, private ham radio operators all over the world also tracked the Apollo missions. Nobody ever came forward to claim the transmissions' locations were being faked. On later missions, NASA released information to the public explaining where third party observers could expect to see the various craft at specific times according to scheduled launch times and planned trajectories.
1. Neil Armstrong - Apollo 11, 1969
2. Buzz Aldrin - Apollo 11, 1969
3. Pete Conrad - Apollo 12, 1969
4. Alan Bean - Apollo 12, 1969
5. Alan Shepard - Apollo 14, 1971
6. Edgar Mitchell - Apollo 14, 1971
7. David Scott - Apollo 15, 1971
8. James Irwin - Apollo 15, 1971
9. John Young - Apollo 16, 1972
10. Charles Duke - Apollo 16, 1972
11. Gene Cernan - Apollo 17, 1972
12. Harrison Schmitt - Apollo 17, 1972
HOW TO SEE ALL SIX APOLLO MOON LANDING SITES
https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/how-to-see-all-six-apollo-moon-landing-sites/
Waste of time arguing with crackpots.
Multiple countries, including Russia and China tracked the Apollo 11 spacecraft all the way to the surface of the Moon. Dozens of countries sent congratulatory messages to the US on the accomplishment, including Russia and China. Furthermore, if NASA had pulled off the biggest hoax in history, do you think they would put it at risk by repeating it 6 more times?
I think you have been trolled by an expert : ) I watched it live and that next day everyone wanted to be an astronaut. When my Son was in grade school, I asked his class how many wanted to be an astronaut, Nope not a one. My Son wanted to be a Microbiologist and that is what he is today ha. I am working on an experiment that will launch this yr. I hope. At least my DNA will go into a low Earth orbit for a 1.5 ha.
How were they faked?
I would love to know, considering we can see the flag on the moon and it was confirmed by various organizations and powers (including the USSR) to be real.
You don't think photos or videos by NASA or via satellite can be edited? Not saying I believe this (along with the official narratives of the world trade ctr bombings and a lone gunman taking out JFK) just that I keep an open mind.
Don't keep your mind so open that your brains land up falling out. (This is my standard answer to any Zionist that asks me to keep an open mind on Zionist Israeli society treating Palestinians as real equals).
Let's at least hope there's some overlap. 😊
Are those numbers accurate? How the heck does 17% think the earth is flat?
I decided to read the original study. 10% believe the Earth is flat, 9% were unsure either way, so I had it somewhat wrong.
12% are anti-Moon landing, 17% are unsure.
9% believe the Covid vaccinations included microchip implants, while 19% were unsure.
https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/conspiracy-vs-science-survey-us-public-beliefs
And a hundred percent voted for the orange clown.
"I still don’t get how the American Empire managed to earn the “Land of the Free” moniker and how it somehow duped the rest of the globe for decades; empires are never free to begin with anyway, so who are they fooling?"
Well, for white people it used to be a lot more free than Europe. Those days are gone.
White is a racist invention. Nobody is white (nor black).
Between the monarchies, the controlling churches, and the class system, the Pilgrims, at least, came for freedom.
Fuck the pilgrims. They “sought freedom” by taking another peoples’ land.
Instead of helping pilgrims subsist through harsh winters (BIG mistake) the Native Americans should have slaughtered them.
The Pilgarms were a speachal kind of stupid,Gypsy.
They put people in stocks, we're afraid of their own shadow, and thought sex was sinful even when it was for procreation.
They didn't leave England.
The sorry bastuurds were thrown out!
Hi Darkstar
And burned women for being “witches”!
Yup ! And they seldom bathed, because it was sinful to be naeked .
Buncha superstitious idiots !
No they didn't lol
No one was living in Plymouth. They didn't take anyone's land. Most of that happened a lot later and it was a genocide absolutely.
Was a long long time ago. And did they not proceed to commit genocide against the indigenous people?
Not the Pilgrims.
They came in desperation and proceeded to viciously slaughter the indigenous people.
Not the Pilgrims. Do some research.
What? You've got that completely wrong Whyte people were much freer in Europe than in the US. It's just the US people who might think that they were freer than us Europeans, duping themselves.
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US is a fraud through & through from the moment of its conception
The US government was founded by Masons and spiritually dedicated to Lucifer that is their god..Masonry comes from the Kabala which is Jewish..Within 7 years of the fall of Jerusalem they were started specifically to infiltrate foreign governments and other bases of power..America is the most warring country in the world..Hope this helps
I think the Bible-beaters are very much in the minority. Unfortunately many of those who should be in opposition won't stand up to them.
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i heard there was some friction between the prez and the bisshop, involving remarks during her sermon today. (in the meanwhile in the background ...).
Those Mayflower people were the original Christian Zionists! They wiped out the East Coast peoples...... Some atheist jews picked up on the idea much later...."religion poisons everything!".
https://icejusa.org/history-of-christian-zionism/#:~:text=As%20a%20definite%20theology%2C%20however,the%20Jews%20to%20their%20land.
Like Landro, I have family that came here with the Mayflower. They were not Zionists, just regular folk searching for a better life.
Me too. Agree.
On someone else’s land!
Nobody owns the land
Gabe:
The Native Americans had no concept of “land ownership”.
White Europeans DID.
NOPE, My family came over on the second crossing of the Mayflower. Their leader was not a Zionist, he was a freedom of religion leader (his religion). They were Anti-Church of England. Sadly, they were responsible for the clause in our Constitution, Freedom of Religion 1st. Amendment.
I’m happy to say that I’m first-generation Amerikkkan and my people had nothing to do with the genocide against Native Americans. I do feel guilt that my farm was once Chippewa land.
Haha
No clue what you find humorous.
Wrong
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How it did it?
Easy, with the loyal bootlicking of the majority 🕵🏻♀️🕵🏾♀️🕵🏾🕵🏾.
Which it divided through various ways like racism, classism and other psyops.
That many uphold to this day.
I can’t stand any more lies about Palestinians. I absolutely hate Israel.
Israel is a made up state. It was made in the Nakba where Zionist Jews murdered & raped innocent Palestinians to steal their homes & possessions. There is NO WAY that God is on their side. None.
The next question for Cong. Elise Stefanik should have been:
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"Do you believe that Israel has the Biblical Right to commit Genocide?"
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-israel-genocide-going-mad-is
Maybe the “gods of genocide”….
I don't believe that this ceasefire was meant to stick, I wish and hope to God I am wrong but I think it is a planned gimmick for the inaugural day only, Israel has already killed multiple people in the West Bank and kidnapped(arrested) over 60, they are playing this as a game, release 90 and recuperate 60, a temporary halt in killings in Gaza, no problem let's kill some in West Bank, they have made a joke of Palestinian life. Today settlers burned houses cars and tractors in the West Bank. Just today Trump was talking about the beautiful location of Gaza being on the sea and having perfect weather as a piece of real estate, the same way Jarred Kushner has been talking about development plans for Gaza.
Yes, see this comment by Ohio Barbarian in response to a post by the fantastic Alon Mizrahi:
"I just had a nasty and cynical thought. The ceasefire in Gaza holds for awhile, and that’s all the media and Trump talk about. Meanwhile, they shift the ethnic cleansing campaign to the West Bank and the US Ambassador in Jerusalem will say there is no West Bank, much less a genocide.
"I’m sure they think Trump will recognize an Israeli annexation of the West Bank, and this would be the first test—to see how much he lets them get away with in the West Bank while leaving Gaza mostly alone."
https://substack.com/profile/17107991-ohio-barbarian/note/c-87648888?r=awhdy
DJT owes Miriam Adelson, AIPAC, the Colonial Conglomerates, the Lords of War and all the Zionists big time. If they want support in attempting to exterminate/ethnically cleanse the Palestinians in whatever rotating order (and they do) - Gaza, West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem...they will get it. "Democrat" or "Republican" same same. Cruelty and death have become a driving perversion and addiction to the zionists. Trump makes "deals" never reported, generally in smoke filled back rooms in Hades realm. DJT is a deluded, inflated puppet thoroughly owned as were all his predecessors.
For now, I am infinitely grateful that the Gazans have this respite, a return of some hope, and the critical food, water and medicines they so desperately need. And that other benevolent forces in the world are gathering the strength to put an end to this nightmare.
YES KAY! Thank you for pointing out that the Ziopaths have turned their attention to the West Bank!
Ziopaths! That's a good one Gypsy 👍
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Darkstar, I call ‘em as I see ‘em!
Dead on! ‚The ceasefire?? The biggest lie of ‚modern‘ time. And Joe Biden and Kamela Harris prepared it full on !
Cristal clear, since the start and that was not after October 7th, 2023 "only".
“ Israel has a “Biblical right” to the West Bank.”
Better be careful or this could set a precedent for Native Americans to reclaim their land in America and kick all the people out of it.
Israel attacked Syria right after it signed the ceasefire’ with Lebanon. Now it’s attacking the West Bank after the Gaza ‘ceasefire’. There isn’t a Hamas in the West Bank that could kick Israeli buttocks like they have in Gaza.
The inhabitants of Zionist Israel are Ashkenazi Jews.
They are descended from Jewish CONVERTS from Europe and west Asia.
They have NO Semitic genetic connection to the Mizrahi, the indigenous Jews of the Middle East.
And even IF that were not so, they have no right to bring themselves to Palestine and tell everybody living there to go live somewhere else.
And then start exterminating
them when they refuse to leave.
Were the Israelis the "moral" people they so falsely claim to be, they would have bought the available land.
And been content with that.
Set up their Jewish paradise and lived happily ever after.
There is NO justification for ANYTHING that the Israelis have done.
It has ALL been done in bad faith, and with malice aforethought.
Every step of the way.
The United States, and all the other countries supporting Israeli debauchery must stop supporting Zionism, and decommission Israel completely.
Those Israelis can take their dual passports, and go live somewhere else.
Then restore the territory to its indigenous inhabitants, rebuild and restore all that was destroyed.
The International Criminal Court needs to strap on a pair and take a harsh stand against Israel and its enablers.
Nuremberg 2.0.
The time has long past.
I think he was joking, because Israelis say they have some ancestral right to the land, when they obviously don’t. Native Americans actually have an ancestral right to the land, but that would never be considered by the US government. It was a stab at the US government hypocrisy. I assume that, based on seeing his previous comments.
Yep. You nailed it.
Thanks.
Yup. But they keep that fact from most of the world.
And the Jews who were released from the concentration camps and migrated to Israel were treated like cannon fodder and most of them died.
In 1968, I learned the truth about Zionism from two family friends who escaped Nazi Germany with just the clothes on their backs, each with suitcase in hand.
They made their way to Israel, and quickly discovered that it was no Jewish Paradise.
It was Nazi Germany all over again:
The Israelis as the Nazis; the Palestinians assigned the role the Jews formerly filled.
They told me that it was the Israelis making cannon fodder of the Arabs.
The Arabs were very poor people who had nothing; the Israelis were armed to the teeth.
From the get-go.
I don’t think that’s true. The Palestinians ended up being cannon fodder. The Jews have always had the cannons.
So few people know this. Many were living in the streets.
https://www.diligent.news/p/zionism-an-obstacle-to-peace
Yup. That's it.
In a nutshell:
Divide and conquer. Triangulation.
All manner of narcissistic manipulation and abuse.
That's how them Israelis roll.
And some Arabs playing the role of flying monkey.
Sucking up to the Occupiers.
As if that is going to help.
(I see a lesson to Trumpers here.)
Anyways, the situation there is one hot mess.
Was not this bad until those Israeli interlopers showed up.
Ruined the neighborhood. ;)
So well said. Thank you !!
And for Mexico to reclaim the Southwest !
Only if you mean the Natives of the land that is currently known as "Mexico." Native peoples didn't speak Spanish originally.
Yes, Mexico is just as much of a settler colony as the US is.
“Operation Iron Wall” is an attack on the West Bank city of Jenin that started less than 24 hours after Trump was sworn in. But who’s surprised? He’s repeatedly said he was Israel’s best friend and appointed that fool Mike Huckabee as diplomat who calls the West Bank by its biblical names. I hope the people in Gaza can even temporarily be spared the bombings because they’ll resume as soon as Netanyahu wants them to. Trump was asked yesterday if he thought the ceasefire would hold and he mumbled something about war was unpredictable.
On stage (in addition to Musk doing his war dance and Dr. Strangelove arm thrusts) were a set of human props complete with huge yellow scarves. I don’t know how this can be stopped.
After 42 days they will start bombing Gaza again. There is no agreement past the 42 days for hostage exchange.
They never stopped.
You’re right. I am seeing daily massacres by the IDF still. Fuck Israel and the US supplier!
It's very hard to like that statement, however, I agree : (
Yeah, the jews are just reloading.
Sam, Native Americans have every right to kick our sorry asses out.
So do the Mexicans ! The Southwest belonged to Mexico, California Arizona Utah Nevada and New Mexico, that was all Spanish/ Mexico land before the Yankees came.
Spain colonized the Native Americans and created Mexico The natives were murdered in masses, just like in Gaza. Spain was a colonial country, just like most Western European countries. They also committed genocide on the Native Americans. They didn’t speak Spanish before Spain colonized them.
Very true. The Coquistitdors were as brutal as all colonial powers.
But the natives eventually absorbed Spain's culture, and mixed it with their own, to become something unique and beautiful.
Maybe I just feel that way because it's all around me here in the Southwest
I also live in the southwest and have many close friends that are Hispanic.
Agree, Darkstar. I visit southern Colorado frequently and love the Mexican people and culture.
The Spaniards mixed and intermarried with the Native peoples, unlike the majority of whites from the US. The French also lived among the Native people of what is now Quebec. Because of my Quebecois heritage, I have some Mohawk blood… to which I credit my utter lack of fear of heights!
Awestruck as always by your commentary, Caitlin. Hypocrites! -- the head aches, the heart bleeds, the soul despairs, the body is in sympathetic/empathic pain with the hapless Palestinians....
I particularly liked the Fargo allusion. I too favor the wood chipper treatment for all empire maniacs who fuel the fires of their racism with any variety of religious fable.
I just read today that Trumps 90 moratorium on the US giving funds to other countries EXCLUDES Israel and Ukraine. He's not working for We the People he's working for his mega donors. It's business as usual in Washingtin DC. 😡🤮
I have read both things, total and exclusions. I think they only way we know is if either party starts screaming about more money from the taxpayer. The wealthy don't pay taxes so that is a tax on workers. Capital gains at 14% we are the suckers not having access to carried interest : (
Lying, cheating, and being a stooge for the empire has become a very lucrative career choice for too many. This is what happens when all the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of despots. Bat shit insanity becomes the norm.
This is what happens when populations put their power into the hands of others.
If you can, please attend the Workers Strike Back convention Kshama Sawant believes exactly that.
I think the French had a solution for that, short lived as it was.
I'm not sure we want to be headed in that direction.
I do love the pun though : )
they're driving.
Caitlin, Thank you for continuing to lay bare the FALSE NARRATIVES of the Empire and of the rich and powerful (many such examples of them in this article).
Now, we need to somehow AMPLIFY your voice so that MORE PEOPLE (than just your readers) are able to open their eyes.
As you yourself have said many times -> when enough people have realized the truth about how they are constantly being manipulated throughout their lives (by forces that they may not even be aware of), a serious positive change/development can begin to happen.
Chang, I don't know about that any more. The masses were freezing in the cold and yet cheering on.
Yes, those "masses that were freezing" are part of the ones that have to be woken up from their indoctrination, false narratives, and propaganda of the Empire.
THAT is all of OUR JOBS (the ones that have already woken up). It is on us (I believe) to wake them up. We MUST. What other choice do we have? Continue living in this dystopian status quo enviornment with no hope of any positive change?
What is the point of waking up if we are the ONLY ones to do it? To have it mean something, we have to try OUR BEST to wake others up. (Yes, I know that it is extremely challenging, frustrating, and energy-draining - but I really don't see any other alternative. Do you?)
My Friend, I like to think I am a logical thinking person as I clearly see you are most of the time ha. I have no idea where this sh it show goes. At times, I think maybe we are living in a multi Universe reality because, none of it make sense, then a small fraction makes sense destroyed by overwhelming insanity.
I have read as many here have about the 1920/30s world depression the single thing that most intrigues me about FDR when faced with collapsing banking systems. The story goes, FDR said to the top 1% income, I am taxing you at 93% on the wealth you do not return to workers. When the howling began, " I am the only person keeping the pitchforks away from you" I like to think that story was true and the tax rates of the time suggest it is.
Then 2008 and WE cheer Obama, who within seconds became Obummer. The 180deg version of FDR. Up until then Jimmy god fearing Carter man of peace was my greatest regret, the murder of said 1 million East Timor for having the audacity of demanding equality. Then Obummer, I was even more depressed putting all my hope in the magic mirror. Followed by the traitor to all workers around the world Bernie. I have never in my life burned a book until last year. I pulled a hand signed by Bernie Our Revolution thanking me for the 4800$ of contributions and work, held a ceremony with my Son, and we tossed the book on the fire along with all of my childish hopes in others.
So I agree with you and Chris Hedges, this is on us as united people with no divisions. Workers Strike Back, Kshama Sawant is holding a conference on where and how we go forward. Stay tuned my friend, this may show us where we were, where we are and how far we can go together : )
“At times, I think maybe we are living in a multi Universe reality because, none of it make sense, then a small fraction makes sense destroyed by overwhelming insanity.”
That’s exactly where I’m at. “Reality” is so insane that I don’t even know what’s real. I can certainly understand the folks who ignore the evidence in front of their face, because it’s so much easier to put on your blinders, plug your ears, and drink the kool aid. Unfortunately for me, it’s very difficult to unsee once it’s been seen.
From my point of view, the problem with waking people, (besides the problem of not wanting to wake up), is that people are not rational beings. In general we are controlled by our emotions. This means that a rock solid case for the truth is useless unless we can also manipulate (propagandize) people into accepting it. This means that which narrative prevails is more dependent upon which side has the more persuasive advocate than which narrative is closer to the truth. (This is also the inherent flaw in the U.S. legal system),
What you say is true unfortunately (that truth is not enough, it needs propaganda and narratives to help it along).
Hi Chang
The only hope for this planet is the extinction of humanity. Let some living being smarter than us become the dominant species.
Has the Bible been used for anything other than evil, promoting war, hate, and robbing people of money?
The Bible is literally an excuse to do that, because you will be forgiven of all your sins. What an awesome get out of jail free card.
Eddie - This is what I always say when someone talks about the Bible: What do the rules and regulations of a group or religious sect of two thousand years ago have to do with me? Zilch!
No it has not. Nor have any human depictions of god.
That's the old testament. The new contradicts it completely. It is a bit odd. This shows again that most people are not at all concerned about logical consistency.
I'm sure if you wanted to find the answer to that question (in good faith - pun) then you would. There are plenty of examples of the Bible being used for good things (eg. smacking Netanyahu in the face or the balls with a heavy Bible 🙃). But in all seriousness, yes - lots of people have used it to do good deeds.
(Though I'm guessing your question was rhetorical, right?)
It is an American tradition to appoint an extreme zionist as the US representative to the UN.
Just seeing that naive (stupid) woman, nominated by Trump for the position of UN Ambassador for the USA, in front of that committee, made me so disgusted. In that room would have been some intelligent people, surely. The words she used, proven to be time and again just plain Israeli lies and the tripe she spoke in that chamber, one incorrect statement after the other, indicated to everyone that whatever you say is the truth........so long as it favours the locally resident Israelis in the USA, the members of the ADL, AIPAC and how many others one can only guess.
She is nothing less than another Nikki Haley, in truth probably nominated by Netanyahu himself.
How can these hearings occur without serious questioning of these nominated applicants. Is this the future for America until one day the greater majority yell "this is enough".
This is the danger we are seeing now and which is likely to continue. Who has the courage to question this in a serious way when the committee involved would have been selected from the elected politicians, 86% having obligations from receiving Israeli resident (local Jewish) funding in last years election, along with the master provider, Elon Musk while Nazi saluting wildly.
Readers today should not think for one second that this type of cleverly controlled by the likes of AIPAC sycophantic behaviour is unique to America. It isn't. In the little (in numbers, big in land mass) USA acolyte called Australia, peppered with USA military outfits, is about to embark on an election of its own. The competition has already started and following the odd swaztika on a synagogue with investigation teams (Jewish naturally) special police efforts, supported by both candidates as they vie for the role as the most grovelling candidate heading for Prime Minister, one trying to outdo the other, every day in every way. And I mean 'any way'.
No. It is not electoral priorities like health provisions, cost of living, climate, housing, or any other matter that graces the pages in a Murdoch rag or pours daily from the mouths of politicians, but good old Israel promoted antiSemitism, the basis of their marketing campaign for elections anywhere in the world from this point on. The average Australian couldn't care less, with the majority hopefully seeing the whole sham as just another Israel campaign. The only conditions required for success being weak politicians, supportive (corrupt) media, alive and well, and money pouring in the right direction, learning from the corrupted USA.
Not 86% corrupt as in he USA in this subservient little country, but on the way. The Israeli circus ramping up in spite of the tennis in Melbourne.
It is all Israeli bunkum but those pathetic little politicians are getting on the Israeli bandwagon as clearly evidenced in the USA and unless someone wakes up in other countries, will be used like The Holocaust was as the marketing theme song for elections, everywhere.
Today's world. One step forward but three back. Look at Trump, Genocide Biden, Starmer in the UK, Scholtz in Germany, Trudeau in Canada and the pathetic example in Australia......and on it goes. More to join those ranks. You can bet on it.
Contrarian 33, You said it all. The Jewish leaders in Australia will have us believe that they feel unsafe with a few antisemitic scrawls on walls. Did they stop to think how unsafe the Palestinians in Gaza have been for the past year and more. Are they comparing their hurt feelings with the suffering of a people in the midst of a genocide..... .
Indu, those scribbling were probably the work of a rabbi!
"n that room would have been some intelligent people, surely."
Nah. They'd be a threat to The System.
The Bible is not a history book. It’s a religious text. It’s not a document that has validity for fact arbitration.
The US is explicitly a secular state. It’s not even constitutional for a legislator to demand displays of religious faith or religiously based belief from anyone appearing at a hearing held by that institution.
This should produce censure or even expulsion. Like immediately. Because its treasonous towards the republic.
The country has clearly been taken over by some sort of zionist cult “Taliban”..
What’s even more ironic is the US government turning into a religious cult….while telling the entire world, including Afghans, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis , that religiously based states and governments are something forbidden to them.
Modern day Pharisees at work on the age old colonial project there.
the US was always a cult. Pledge of alliance anyone? Manifest destiny?
I would even argue all organized religions are all cults to. All religions exist with the purpose to control others.
Whatever the case, the US is explicitly a secular republic.
Any legislator demanding that a prospective government official should swear allegiance to X religious belief, should be expelled from office. Because it’s treasonous action against the republic.
Oh is it? Why do you swear on a bible then?
I just mentioned religion to say all these big religion orgs that no one calls cults are also cults.
Cults are not just religious, btw. And it's a big problem that people can't see that.
You can swear in over a copy of Donald Duck magazine, the Koran - or over your heart - whatever you chose. Bible not required.
And what you swear is to defend the constitution the republic. A secular set of principles. Not a religion.
Go learn basic civics before commenting. Not interested in kindergarten level discussion.
Imagine thinking you have the moral high ground for literally believing every facade in front of you. The point was not even if the US is secular or not, the point is that it has been operated as a cult for a long time.
Fascists are literally taking power everywhere in the western world and you are here talking about the made up concepts they pretend to respect to make you believe you really are the country of democracy and freedom. Pathetic patronizing liberals.
You’re mostly babbling. And the “liberal” as attempted insult is played out. You don’t know even where I am from anyway. Off you go mate.
Thanks, Caitlin. It's all true. I suggest reading "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism," written January-July 1916, published April 1917. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/imperialism.pdf
Yes, except for the outdated examples, and names, it's an excellent commentary on our contemporary situation. I've read, and reread it more than once in recent years.
I have no confidence that Trump will be any better for Palestinians than genocide Joe. Israel's killed over 130 since ceasefire was announced and they're invading Jenin. It will be heartbreaking to watch homecoming Palestinians be forced back into dislocation and mass death. Trump's calling it Israel's war now, as if out of his hands. He just didn't want bombing there on his special day, no different than Obama in 2010. They care more about their special days than about any level of injustice.
read he also lifted all restrictions on weapons' deliveries (2000 pound bombs) and cleared the sanctions on the west-bank settlers.
I find this one disappointing because while I agree with most of it, I disagree that Elon did a Nazi salute. You need to compare it to the videos of Nazi salutes that go on in Ukraine. Those are the real ones.
@scorpion command, I read all the comments and I have to say that your comment was the one that I resonated with the most. Caitlin's mention of Elon Musk doing a Nazi salute kinda stung a bit for me as well. I wrote about what he did in my newsletter a few hours ago. I also mentioned the Bellamy Salute which was the way people in the US saluted the flag before WWII. It took the angle of the Cult of Personality and Hero Worship that is the real problem. It seems to me to be an oxymoron to say that Musk is a Nazi if he's sucking up to Netanyahu. Musk is just intrepid narcissist who loves center stage and being important. He is socially awkward basket case and was probably very juiced up as you can see by the entire video of his speech (which I included in my newsletter).
THE BELLAMY SALUTE
What’s really unfortunate about all of this, is how uneducated the populace of the USA is about history. Without any knowledge of the Bellamy Salute, they went into full meltdown about what Elon did. They threw the term “Nazi” around, which has literally lost its power, and claimed he is a Nazi! 😲😲 It is utterly amazing how easy it is to trigger these people. Maybe it’s because I’ve been on this planet for 7 decades because to me, it was of no importance. The so-called journalists should know more. Even the ADL didn't mention that. That's the scary part, folks are just uneducated.
https://open.substack.com/pub/topicsfromatoz/p/elon-musk-and-the-problem-with-hero
Musk is a whiny man-child and a psychopath but he’s not stupid. He did it twice, the second time more like the Nazis did it, and it was meant to send a message to the Nazis and right-wingers that they have arrived voice at the seat of power. To understate what he did or to excuse it is to normalize it. Imagine what the excuse-makers and Zionist groups would have said had Kamala Harris made that gesture.
The bottom line is we do not know what his intentions were. We are merely speculating. The Nazis and right-wingers may take it as a nod to them but they too would be merely speculating unless of course they got together and plotted it. On the other hand, Kamala Harris did do a similar gesture along with many others. I can’t post the pictures here but here are a few links. https://x.com/BoBaDobDobs/status/1882008259261079812/photo/1
https://x.com/FioreUnited/status/1881478580183654423/photo/1
https://x.com/josephcotten2nd/status/1881516337962590696
>>"The bottom line is we do not know what his intentions were"
You're a funny one "Nana Baakan Agyiriwah"
So, you defend the richest man in the World with a flimsy statement like "we don't know what his intentions were". Seriously??? Please tell me the last time Elon had GOOD intentions.
So how many people thought he was doing a "Bellamy Salute" and how many thought it was something similar to the "Nazi Salute"? Therein lies a clue to the answer.
And you blame the people for not being educated? How many times has Trump done the Bellamy Salute? And if not, then why not?
There are SO MANY WAYS Musk could have indicated his gratitude (i.e. saying Thank you), but he chose this? I don't know about you, but I don't think Musk is stupid.
Musk is an idiot. He reminds me of a man who got a very frisky dog for a pet and has no idea of how to handle it so he bounces around with the dog, gets tangled in the leash when he walks the dog and then blast off his mouth about what a great dog walker he is. Lord have mercy, I am not defending the richest man in the world, which he ain’t even that, but just saying, he ain’t the problem. It’s the human beings stuck in the cult of personality who are the problem. Human beings who need celebs to make them feel powerful. Human beings who clap like seals when a new Superhero is dished out to them. If folks ignored Musk and his antics, he would wither and go away. All I am saying is that if folks knew what real Nazism was they wouldn’t throw that word around so loosely. Trudeau called the people who didn’t want to be vaccinated Nazis, and I don’t think I saw any of them make the Heil Hitler salute.
Well said - and I agree with everything you said above!
>>"It’s the human beings stuck in the cult of personality who are the problem"
YES!
You're either ignorant or a bot. To say that we don't know his intentions when he props the AfD in Germany, when he amplifies neo nazi voices everyday on his platform, platform he bought to turn into a far right propaganda machine to influence elections all over the world. He grew up in apartheid South Africa, his family money was made on the back of black slaves. He is a proponent of the whole TESCREAL bundle of ideologies which is nothing but repackaged fascism and anti-human bs.
But now we have to consider his intentions... Seriously? After all he has done already? What more do you want, a swastika tattoed in his head? Oh wait, might be just an hindu symbol. I'll guess we have to go with a sign document saying "I am a fascist".
And you know what's even more deranged from people like you? It is the fact that if he really didn't mean it, he would have explained himself and apologise. Like any normal person would do.
So tell me, are you here to convince us that those among the left who see this for what it is are dumb, or are you the ignorant one here thinking they know better than everyone else without knowing ONE THING about Elon Musk?
maybe you missed some subtle history-perspectives about nazi's sucking up to netanyahu/israel and vice versa. but anyway, the author doesn't particularly care about the salute. it's again part of the big opening numbers in the 4 year distractive spectacle.
Yes of course Mush is following a tradition he most likely never heard of. Watch his family on Canadian interview speak about their relationship with the Nazi's the primary reason for the move to South Africa in admiration. Not the first time he has made the salute. Nope we are educated, we just aren't easily fooled. Funny how he didn't use your idea as a diversion.
>>"Even the ADL didn't mention that. That's the scary part, folks are just uneducated."
So obviously the ADL were unaware of the "Bellamy Salute", much like 99% of the US. And you think that "Elon Musk" (of all people) was aware of the Bellamy Salute?
Seriously? I just don't see "your rationale" behind his defense.
Questions:
(1) Who else (in recent history) has performed the Bellamy Salue? (remember: context matters and form matters)
(2) Has Musk EVER done such a salute before today? Why do you think that might be?
(3) Are there reasons why people (that know about the Bellamy Salute) don't do it? So then why did Musk?
I'm surprised at your naviety about the behavior of Elon Musk - a person that is full of stupid antics (like accusing the Thai cave rescuer of being a pedophile, and hundreds of others). What gives? Are you unfamiliar with Musk's psychology and behavior?
FYI: Musk, ADL, Netanyahu, etc. don't really care about Jews. I doubt Netanyahu cares much about Israel either. Musk and Netanyahu care ONLY about themselves and power. Similarly, ADL cares about power and Israel (and not about Jews - as evidenced by ALL THEIR ACTIONS against Jewish protesters and organizations and much more).
“FYI: Musk, ADL, Netanyahu, etc. don't really care about Jews. I doubt Netanyahu cares much about Israel either. Musk and Netanyahu care ONLY about themselves and power. Similarly, ADL cares about power and Israel (and not about Jews - as evidenced by ALL THEIR ACTIONS against Jewish protesters and organizations and much more).”
My sentiments exactly.
Who else in history has performed the Bellamy Salute?
United States Citizens born before WWII as they saluted the flag of the United States. It was summarily dropped once the “Nazis” and their sympathizers started using it. https://www.thoughtco.com/why-americans-gave-the-bellamy-salute-3322328
Why are we still here talking about this basket case? Is it paying either of our bills? Is it making either of us younger or healthier?
Out of curtesy I respond but believe me, I still see Musk as a no brainer. If folks want to eat Musk for breakfast, lunch and dinner, rant on. He simply is just not that important to me. What I am more concerned about is how folks make Heroes out of people who do not deserve the crown, not by a long shot.
"... how uneducated the populace of the USA is ..." - most indeed are, but the ones fanning the flames know full well what they're doing. The gullibles' reaction just confirms they're on the right track.
"the ones fanning the flames" if only we knew who they really are we may have a snowballs chance in hell to call them out. There are so many instances of other politicians doing the same "Bellamy" salute and even US citizens saluted their flag just like that before WWII then changed the hand to over the heart because it became associated with the Nazis. https://www.thoughtco.com/why-americans-gave-the-bellamy-salute-3322328
Well, they did just that. Since his family has a Nazi history, the reason they moved to South Africa, it's not hard to understand. Watch it frame by frame, not the first time he has done that. Actually it was a good thing, the reveal was out in the open for the world to see.
In my opinion, the question is not: "Does it look like a Nazi salute?", but "Did Elon Musk intend to do a Nazi salute?"
This is about the man's intentions, not what you or I may see.
I cannot think of a single reason why he would intend to do one. He isn't that dumb.
He was sending a message to the far right. He supports AfD in Germany and Melina in Italy, two pro-Nazi political parties.
Really? Give us a definition of Nazism and point to where it is spelled out in the programs of those parties. Or where did they act that would indicate they are heading in that direction.
You in Canada, on the other hand, cheered on a Nazi in the parliament or whatever. Your government is on record supporting Nazis. You have memorials dedicated to Bandera.
As the Russian saying goes: Чья бы корова мычала, а твоя бы молчала.
What kind of intentions do you think a wealthy runaway that fled the end of South Africa's apartheid and whose family has always been known for their extreme racism and support of segregation + genocide?
I wonder what you also think of his intentions when he's clearly shown disregard for safety regulations and the lives of anyone under his control if it means a tiny bit of extra profit to out into his hidden bank accounts across the world or his open hostility towards South Africa and Palestine?
You should read the history of his family. Get back to me when you read the reason they moved to South Africa.
This. People who are arguing that it's a dog-whistle for the white supremacists so that they know shit's gravy are buying the bullshit that there's a big white supremacist/nazi problem in the US, which has ben Democrat propaganda from day one. Just like Caitlin has correctly argued that anti-semitism is a contrived bugbear used for control, so is the threat of "muh US Nazis," which I have yet to see any evidence of, not for a lack of many interested parties trying for almost a decade. It's just absurd on its face.
I can, to get attention and generate controversy, which he seems to like, and to throw a bone to pro-Whites who are unhappy at his stance of expanding H1Bs. Throwing up a salute isn't much, but some people fall head over heels for tiny gestures like that.
Yeah, agreed. This might be the first time in my entire life I'm actually agreeing with something the ADL said. I don't trust Musk, and I'm not defending him, but the real story there isn't Musk's robotic attempt at ebullience, its the staggering number of Americans whose brains are so cooked by Internet histrionics that unironically melting down that Bad Man #2 went full Nazi mask off seems like a reasonable thing to do. (It's not)
Although I do appreciate the point Caitlin is making about antisemitism being a fearmongering technique rather than an actual problem, because that's exactly right
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
-- Hunter S. Thompson