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Genocide in Palestine by Israelis have been going on since 1937.

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It's amazing that the Palestinian natives have been surviving this long, it's a truly impressive feat that needs to be commended in the history books, if their situation weren't so horrifyingly grim.

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"Question everything"

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You know that, so don't be angry in your resistance to a new thought.

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It has been nearly a year since October 7th and can you recall Caitlin ever

questioning Israel's claim that they were surprised and taken off guard when Hamas conducted their jail break?

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Even once?

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Caitlin knows Israel is depraved, and shocked at each new level of depravity Israel exposes.

She knows that they used the Hannibal Doctrine to slaughter their own, but "Israel wanted it to happen and LET October 7th happen" is an untouchable thought for Caitlin.

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Question everything.

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Not one word about MIHOP (Made It Happen On Purpose) nor LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) from Caitlin. Not a thumbs-up nor down to the question of MIHOP / LIHOP.

Not a "I am thinking about it"; not a "Yes, there is much to be considered"; not even a "Who Cares!?"

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Not one word from Caitlin.

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Question Everything.

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One has to ask why Caitlin is supporting Israel's cover up story about why October 7th happened.

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Is Caitlin Controlled Opposition?

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"Gasp!"

Question Everything.

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Imagine if Caitlin got it right and had the headline:

"Genocide Pretext Collapses, Betrayal Exposed!!"

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What the hell are you babbling about? I've written about this multiple times.

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-official-story-of-october-seventh

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Read below and see what I am talking about.

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Also, can't you even say what "this" is?

Say it.

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What a bizarre hill to die on. I am very clearly and obviously saying that there is a lot of evidence that Israel allowed the attack to happen on purpose in order to facilitate longstanding agendas. I have repeatedly explicitly said this. Go find a real thing to get upset about.

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Genocide Pretext Collapses, Betrayal Exposed !

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uh yeah she has questioned that claim. where does that leave your argument?

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I question your claim. Where does that leave your argument?

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you don't have any evidence. you asked if anybody had seen her question whether Israel was surprised or not. I answered. you posited something that is false, and you based your entire argument on it. admit you are wrong and move on.

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You support Israel?

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no i dont support those murderous dirtbags, and i don't support liars who try to smear effective voices against them by trying to paint them as sheepdogs.. you got any more questions?

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The Free Press is a disgrace to civilization.

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You sound like a Plant and I do not mean the green kind. Many of have known since the first news hit the airways, that this was allowedbto happen by the Israeli Government and the top Military. Eygpt spilled the means immediately. Not only that, but an intelligent assumption is that the U.S. knew as well and probably Great Britsin. I also assume their were informants embedded in Hamas and could well have been taking part in proposing the plan and helping carry it out. Not only that - IDF Soldiers stationed on The Wall were warning their commanding officers that something was about to happen based on observations. Futhermore IDF soldiers were ordered to kill hostages, along with their Hamas kidnappers and were also ordered to shoot the fleeing young people in their cars as theybtried to escape, from IDF helicopters. This was hardly the first time IDF have been ordered to commit atrocities against Palestinians nor the first time they have been deprived of food and fuel or been bombed. This time was supposed to be the FINAL SOLUTION. However, I also still feel terrible for the Israelis who were abducted as well as their families. Netanyahu and the Israeli Military and Government along with Biden and Harris and the rest of the U.S. Government at the top are murderous monsters. The U.S. has hundreds of thousands, possibly 2 million hungry and homeless people , while Billionaires keep racking it in. Those at the top apparently could care less, let alone about the people of Gaza or Ukraine or anyone, anywhere else in the World.

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question everything

why would someone try to suggest caitlin is controlled opposition on the basis of a rather irrelevant speculation?

anyways, you made me search the archive: in the post of october 10th 2023, she cited antiwar.com, post of december 7th goes deeper. if one searches the internet with 'israel allowed october 7th to happen', one will find articles of times of israel, cnn, truthout and also wsws. lihop is covered and going further down that rabbit hole is imo unnecessary to convince most people of the depravity and immorality of israel and the west.

the first two tidbits in this article are obviously the desired mihops?

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i figure it's a zionist troll.

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Nah, just a Free Press reader. 😄

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You perhaps are a Plant yourself and I do not mean like a flower - perhaps skunk cabbage. You are way off base and my suspicion antenna is tangling loud and clear.

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martin,

Thx for responding.

How you can call the manufacturing of a pretext for Genocide and the wholesale betrayal and slaughter of their own Israeli citizens "irrelevant" is surprising.

I believe if you give it more thought you will agree with me.

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There are those that claim, "Israel has a right to defend itself". We all know that Genocide can never be called self-defense, but on top of that, Israel created their own death count. They intentionally put their own citizens in harms way and then proceeded to slaughter their own citizens with tanks and Apache helicopters.

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ONE example. The Rave Party was relocated on October 5th. It was placed BETWEEN the Gaza prison walls and a **named target**, the Re'im military base. Israel had Hamas' detailed written plan and the Re'im military base was on the list of Hamas targets.

Hamas' plan also said it would attack on the Sabbath or a Jewish Holiday, Oct 7th was both of those. Israel allowed half of their soldiers to take leave that day. Israel proceeded to block the escape routes of the cars fleeing the Rave Party and then slaughtered their own citizens with Apache helicopters.

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The Rave Party had been disapproved by those IDF officers tasked with such decisions, disapproved for obvious security reasons (3 miles from Gaza!), but IDF headquarters, in an unusual move, inserted themselves into the approval process.

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Israelis should recognize the treachery and betrayal of their leaders. The world should recognize that the pretext for Genocide was planned and manufactured.

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It is not "irrelevant".

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Headline:

Genocide Pretext Collapses, Betrayal Exposed !

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Thx for the reference to Caitlin's December 7th post.

I see she did make a sarcastic statement about Israel's excuses for allowing Oct 7th.

She said of them,

"This is all perfectly normal and not suspicious at all. "

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If that satisfies you, then so be it.

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i gave it some thought, and yes, read the grayzone accounts, read the defensible wsws-article. as mentionend there were the egypt warnings and even cnn and other msm did a piece on it. i'm familiar with the information you mention. surprise, the guys who use drones with crying baby sounds to lure compassionate civilians into their crosshairs, also don't care about their own civilians and false flag them for their casus belli. 'normal' israeli's would recognize the treachery and betrayal, but it turns out they didn't and i think it is because many of them have been living in the apartheid state for all of their lives, got the zionist racism spone-fed from birth, and/or became tribalists (settlers, aid blockers), in short they're in a frenzy (cfr. 'usa!, usa!, usa! - crowd), mind you, nurtured and brainwashed this way. same more or less seems to go for 'the world' (hopefully excluding large parts of the south and east). don't see them 'snap out' now, even if one were to show a spy-cam recording of the meeting. (the liberals were 'nudged' along by 'leading' pundits and experts (salesmen) and eventually found themselves on a side they can't get out of. pride does the rest.)

second if it wasn't 'planned and manufactured' by the israeli's (see lame excuse Times: 'a 9/11 like complacency mistake'), i'd still consider october 7th a legitimate act of desperate resistance by a terribly patient, restrained, reasonable and peaceful people. the action does not require any 'but they were provoked and lured into doing it'-justification. hence, 'irrelevant'. i see your point and your hope that it will/would snap them out of it, but it didn't and wouldn't imo. going down the rabbit hole in the end would lead to a case of 'plausible deniability' at best. caitlin's sarcastic remark, imo, was sufficient. but quite a stretch to 'controlled opposition' too. (use the mushrooms wisely).

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Putting emotional energy into any candidate that supports genocide is a waste. We should all be trying to defeat them and stop the genocide.

Since when is genocide a fringe issue?

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Putting emotional energy into any candidate at all is a waste. "this leads to the delusion that it’s the individuals who are the problem rather than the empire itself and the systems which prop it up, which then leads to the delusion that all you need to do to fix the problems is change out the individuals."

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Since. When.

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BREAKING !!

Holy Shit !

"Hundreds Wounded, Dead In Beirut After Israel Remotely Detonates Hezbollah Pagers"

With the chaos sown in Lebanon today this would be the time for The Psychopathic Entity

to stage a large scale military attack upon Hezbollah.

Stay tuned!

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yeah i just saw this. thousands injured, don't know how many killed, but an 8 year old girl died of her wounds. Israel and the US (if there is a meaningful distinction) are dead set on kicking off world war 3.

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This is surely intended to set the stage for a big attack.

Watch Team D cultists get the excuse cannons ready.

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Yet, spitting in the face of her tormentors, Inas al-Ghoul, a Gazan engineer has designed both solar powered cooking ovens and a water desalination system as reported by today's Al Jazeera. F*ck you, Israel from the bold courageous heart of the Palestinian people, those subhumans.

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Children deliberately murdered on an industrial scale. Could there be greater horror? Silence and indifference fire the bullets and drop the bombs.

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The system is the disease but too many of us focus on symptoms.

Too many also see politics through a tribal prism, willing to accept any new puppet the Machine churns out as long as they're in the correct team. It's a fucking shambles of omnicatastrophic proportions.

And it's jading just watching what's happening to Palestinians so imagine how they feel. Their courage is beyond my ken, a people eternally in my heart. If only those in charge of The West had a scintilla of the Palestinians' humanity we'd be inhabiting a far better place & time.

FREE PALESTINE!

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I am more than angry..with the latest shit/arse destruction in Lebanon.

WHO the fuck in the USA has a brain (also other countries who BLINDLY follow) keeping this Zionist Empire going.

I am finding it more and more difficult 'living.'

We are just people who are trying to stop this mass suicide of the human race whether it be in Ukraine or Israel.

Blow Israel out of their supposed country.

I am not anti-semite but this blind support from MOSTLY the US/UK for Israel is NOT helping anyone......nor Ukraine.

I watched on u-tube today: Meersheimer/Jeffrey Sachs.

I read the comments after this discussion and it is clear to me that many people do have a brain.

I urge you to watch this.

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Israel's been planning for a war with Lebanon for awhile

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Thanks for that link,Howard. I read that earlier today in

War Zone Wire.

Israel loves to play dirty pool, but my thoughts went to darker places.

What if the CIA had a massive hit list, and on signal blew up people's computers ,cellphones and smart watches ?

Or car computers ?

Sounds like a good time will be had by all.

😃

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Can we just all agree that Harris and Trump are two heads of the same warmongering hydra that is the United States?

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not a bad comparison 🙂

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so true. when we blame the person Trump or the person Harris for our misfortune and the miserable state of the world, we are not thinking systemically about a culture devoted to capitalism and self-aggrandizment. we are also avoiding our own complicity...

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It is VERY QUESTIONABLE that the U.S. ever supported it except as an example

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Capitalism is an economic view that supports capital in PRIVATE HANDS

NOT THE HANDS OF THE STATE

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You spelled "majority of the population" wrong.

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U.S.A. 1940: "the arsenal of democracy"

U.S.A. 2024: the arsenal of genocide.

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In my.opinion, based on the factual evidence, you are 100% correct in regards as to the U.S. and "Western" Allies, which seem to be increasing rapidly. In addition, the basic core of the U.S. Capitalist/Imperialist System remains the same. However, it is undeniable that this System has been busy destroying or are attempting to destroy any and all gains made through the sacrifices of the many to unite against the power of the Capitalist Class for so many gains which those of us who have or have had jobs with strong and united Union jobs, such as teachers, and many other Public Service jobs and Manufacturing jobs requiring trained and educated work forces. Meanwhile, those who own the means of production have been busy moving manufacturing jobs to the poorest Nations,with no Union's or Protections for those making the products and with safety and wages close to Slavery. Any Public/ Government funded Union organized jobs have been under attack with the goal of privatizing every aspect of the Public Sphere for profit - the THIRD WAY agreement between both Parties to eliminate Unions and the power of Collective Bargaining. Right now the Federal Government has set the minimum wage at $10.25 per hour- this is then used as the base pay for any State or Local Public or Private Enterprise from Public to large and small businesses. Meanwhile, the price of anything continues to rise or rise but then take a slight dip.

While our Government and the MIC, in unison with Corporately owned Media, continue to spread lies and/or simply remain silent about the U.S. War Machine and the horrors it commits across the World to millions upon Millions of People and their land and water, as well as here. Literally - NO LIVES MATTER except and yes, those in top Positions in the Government, Intel and Military, along with the heads of the FBI, DOJ, HOMELAND SECURITY, and the State Department are all dedicated to serving the Corporate State and the Injustice System. The more We the People refuse to go along to get along and join together to demand higher wages/salaries, better working conditions, support for marginalized and discriminated against,People and Communities which are not Middle to Upper Class "White" skinned individuals, who have Pensions, Social Security, and Healthcare Insurance - which is now a minority of the U.S.

Population as the Greatest Generation's oldest individuals have finally all died and the Baby Boomers are rapidly taking their leave via Cancer and other death dealing diseases such as diabetes- the next generation and the ones after are in jeopardy. The potential for turning the White Whale around and taking control of this Imperialist Murderous War Making Economically Hollowed Out "Nation" is on the ropes for most. Meanwhile most people born and raised in the U.S. have little or no clue as to the reality of what the U.S., NATO, and "Western Allies" are actually doing and have been doing- which is carrying on Perpetual War, Genocide, while the U.S. Sanctions and starves any and all Nations who threaten profits of the Corporations or stand for their People. In the end Genocide has been being committed by the U.S. and ALLIES numerous times - Palestians trapped in Gaza or Israel generally are under the greatest mist open and horric Genocide possible at this moment. If all anyone listens to or reads is MSM or Government "Spokes People" one has much less understanding or worse, only the Israeli Lies to go on.

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Well said! I enjoyed reading your comment. Thank you!

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You're right, but even if by some herculin effort humanity could turn its mindset around, I think that the species has run out of time.

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"the basic core of the U.S. Capitalist/Imperialist System remains the same."

Capitalism is the economic view of capital in PRIVATE HANDS

NOT THE HANDS of the state that imperialism depends upon

Anyone telling you that a mixed economy still counts as capitalism is naive or a liar

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People of New York!

Arrest Netanyahu for genocide and crimes against humanity!

On Friday, September 27 at 10:00 AM Benjamin Netanyahu is slated to come to New York City and speak to the United Nations. Don't let this war criminal, carrying out a genocide against the Palestinian people, come to New York City without facing massive protests.

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That is extremely unlikely to happen given the U.N. has no such powers

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It's not just the genocide but everything else the empire is doing. We are so close to a global nuclear war with Russia and most people have no idea. That is by design. I watched a journalist tell an interviewer this morning that Biden was furious that the DOD told him not to allow long range American made missiles to be used to hit deep into Russia as Putin and company are not fooling around. When Russia said last weekend that they will hit NATO, they meant it. The pentagon finally woke up and told Biden, no. He was embarrassed because he had to tell Starmer no. Biden is an old fool and Harris will follow the party line. Trump is just in it for the money. Pay him enough and he will give anyone whatever they want. The deal maker extraordinaire.

I have given up on the average American citizen to see what is right in front of them now. I am just going to keep fighting for my survival and my families in the coming years ahead and keep my fingers crossed that the west doesn't get us all killed.

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that would have been scott ritter (72 minutes last saturday)? i don't think it's over yet, the mechanism that desires the launch is already looking for other baby steps to be taken, imo. zelensky claimed they had tested their own long-range missile a while back. (if iran could funnel them to the houthis, as mr ritter claimed, others can funnel them to the ukrainians).

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So true! Completely agree! Especially the "Trump is just in it for the money. Pay him enough and he will give anyone whatever they want. The deal maker extraordinaire." part.

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"but everything else the empire is doing."

Can you be more specific what THE EMPIRE is

I NEVER hear it on the news

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A suggestion regarding the empire in Latin America and South America: read Naomi Klein, the shock doctrine, and the open veins of Latin America (sorry I can't remember the author at the moment). Regarding other parts of the world, I feel less confident making recommendations. I am surely not the best informed of all these people, but it seems like you weren't getting any response.

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Caitlin's view of empire seems tio span around the globe

It's actual entity must be known by someone other than "empire"

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You seem to be asking for the name of a person; "empire" does not equate to a person. Or do I miss your point?

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I understand that the United States has placed sanctions on 15,000 persons, organizations, and countries, and has established 800 or more military bases around the world. Do these serve to address your question?

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Not a person - but identifiable

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Emhoff, nee' Harris is married to a Zionist big-wig,

Trump has a Zionist son-in-law and

Biden's kids are all married to Jews, see the link (horse's mouth!!):

https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-us-president-elect-joe-bidens-whole-big-jewish-mishpocha/

The US-empire is firmly in their hands as well as any US-taxpayer clearly is their deplorable SLAVE !!!

The Land of the FREE has been dumped onto the trash-pile of history.

Swallow, little, stupid Goys, swallow !!!

Only the so-called self-hating-Jews can save you from eternal serfdom.

Vote for Jill Stein as any vote for her would be one less for the genociders, a little sign of hope ...

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"Biden's kids are all married to Jews, "

Let's NOT EQUATE jews to zionists

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BINGO !!!👍👍

What do YOU think, the close relatives of the US highest power-levers are ??? ...

To put my perspective on the topic you mentioned very clear: NO self-respecting, genuine person of Jewish faith would ever, not in his wildest dreams, consider to move to the Occupied Land of Palestine under these current apartheid conditions.

So NO conflation of these highly and with full intent mis- used and -interpreted terms.

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Murderers are humans too

But to claim all humans as murderess would be absolutely false

ZIONISM is a belief only

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A belief with highly negative impact on daily life of general, Goy society.

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It's interesting but Israel's colors are white and blue and and the colors of the USA are red, white and blue; so the red stands for the blood that spills in the name of freedom? The freedom to kill others? Apparently, so; even the name Rothschilds means as much.

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BINGO !!!👍👍

I really like how you join facts from different levels of perception !!!

Keep-on working !!!

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"But what you can’t say is that Harris or Biden are doing anything to stop it or slow it down. There is a year of evidence proving this false.

If you want to support the genocide lady, then do so. But you don’t get to demand that I pretend you’re doing something other than what you are doing just for your emotional comfort, or to coddle your self-image. That’s not a thing.

You’re entitled to support whatever politician you want to support, but you’re not entitled to have other people let you feel nice feelings about it."

Humans love rationalizing evil acts.

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"Humans love rationalizing evil acts."

That's particularly true in their overwhelming support for a COMPULSORY and COERCIVE institution like The State

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That enough time to condemn the satanic Talmud and the various evils that flow from it like Zionism?

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Saying Judism is more evil than Christianity or Islam is just silly. Anti-semitism is as evil as anything the IOF does.

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Committing horrific acts ostensibly in the name of a religion is not the same as following a "religion " that explicitly requires a spiritual Apartheid between Jews and Goyim(rest of humanity).

You clearly don't have even know what Judaism is.

Read the Talmud, the Zohar, the Kabbalah etc. It is a doctrine of supremacism.

The only difference in Israel is political and financial supporting to carry out the actual commandments of Judaism.

Not Zionism or any other kabbilistic scapegoate: Supremacist Judaism aka Judaism

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I am using the old definition of anti-semitism and since the word has been corrupted, I must rephrase.

Anyone that thinks Jews (the "race") are evil is a stupid racist/bigot. Anyone that thinks that Judaism is more evil than Christianity or Islam has simply not followed current events, and is ignorant of history.

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No, I'm saying Judaism is by definition is a supremacist and criminal religion. Conflating this with saying all Jews are evil is absurd and dishonest and clearly untrue. Jews are a race. Judaism is a entho-religious phenomenon.

Human history, cross culturally, cross racially, and across time is a testament to the universal intolerable and insufferable nature of Judaism and thus their 1030. Two wrongs don't make a right and the whataboutism in addition to your absurd contention those who you disagree with are bigoted or otherwise uneducated reflect only your totally and wholly underserved confidence on a topic you feel strongly about but know little if anything

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You make a good argument that Judaism is the worst of the three, fine. Two are infinitely evil, the third according to you is infinitely+1 evil. I can live with that. A pox on all their houses.

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Fair enough no ill will to you personally and I am not trying to defend the other faiths beyond the distinction they technically anyone can be a Christian or Muslim even if often through regrettable "incentives" and that while Muslim and Christian pontiffs might exploit religious sensitments to champion acts of evil and are obviously wrong to do so and evil. But in the actual Scriptually accurate implementation of religion Judaism towers over them in "them", insofar as they can be actually called Abrahamic faiths, in being axiomatic and inexorably linked supremacist evil and cannot and will not be reformed like the others faith's have or can be.

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Religions are not evil. PEOPLE that corrupt religions are EVIL. Religions are narratives created by multiple people across multiple generations - and their interpretations are constantly changing and mutating.

EVIL people create "narratives" about religion that suit their purposes (us versus them thinking).

There are hundereds of thousands of interpretations of religions and religious texts. The interpretation YOU CHOOSE to focus on is determined by your biases and belief systems. None of this is universal.

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*1030 expulsions

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Totally agree with your comparison. However, the problem is how antisemitism is defined today. Are students on college campuses who are proclaiming support for Palestinians guilty of antisemitism? Is anyone who criticizes Israel guilty of antisemitism, as many people supported by AIPAC would have you believe? While some of the people so participating may, indeed, have antisemitic feelings, actions like those described above are insufficient evidence of antisemitism.

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the definition you speak about is antisemitic and encouraged by antisemites. there's no need to adopt or legitimise it. of course the vast majority of people protesting israel's actions are not antisemitic (there are some agents-provocateurs). actual anti-semites and deep rooted zionists have a bond, imo, though. they both think they're participating in 'the great game' without realizing they're serving the same master that will throw them under the bus when the time is ripe.

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"Zionism is an ideology that is imperialist, colonialist, racist.

It pains our people greatly to witness the propagation of the myth that its homeland was a desert until it was made to bloom by foreign settlers, that it was a land without a people, and that the colonialist entity caused no harm.

Those who call us terrorists wish to prevent world public opinion from discovering the truth about us. They seek to hide the terrorism and tyranny of their own acts.

When we speak of our hopes for the Palestine of tomorrow we include all Jews now living in Palestine who choose to live with us in peace and without discrimination.

I call upon Jews to turn away one by one from the illusory promises made to them by Zionist ideology and Israeli leadership. They are offering Jews ***perpetual bloodshed***, endless war.

We offer them the most generous solution, that we might live together in a framework of just peace in our democratic Palestine.”

Yasser Arafat, UN General Assembly in 1974

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