"We aren’t close to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), but we are reshaping our world on the premise that we are. I think we are making a huge mistake."
Yeah that's going to be the big sticking point with AI technology moving forward: AGI. You can mimic human behavior to some extent, but there is a boat load of human comprehension skills, free-will, and bigger picture understanding a computer will never replicate (IMO).
I think my parents would like it better if I were a chatbot... I would be so much more agreeable. They could program me to be just what they always wanted. Yuck.
I'm sure the AI "innovators" thank you for this splendid idea for the next ap. If they haven't already got it in development. Hey! Having an actual human baby is so expensive, and full of donwnsides--for just a small monthly fee you can purchase a fake baby, you get to choose the particulars...
The flip side is also well underway: as capital elevates AIs to the status of real humans, real humans are degraded and treated as mere consumers and robotic wage slaves from whom to extract surplus value.
Now I'm worried that next time my kids have me speak to the camera that they are planning for my immediate demise so that they can hold on to me through AI, rather than having to deal with the complicated, more human, and aging me!
No. Artificial stems from artifice, as in 'created'. While it's true this is often connected with deception, this is not the full meaning of the word. Many humans claim that god artificed life. I disagree. Our emergence seems to have been entirely accidental, or possibly the generation of an evil entity. Neither makes us inherently better than something that is created by design rather than by accident.
It seems to require a superior intelligence to create an ‘artificial’ intelligence, so what is the point of it? Nobody with the ability to think for themselves needs a machine to think for them!
There is no interiority (self-awareness, comprehension, emotions) to a computer or a robot. The two are not the same, and (IMO) will never be the same - despite the insistence of many supposedly very super smart people, that in theory, they really are the same.
Charles Dickens predicts the future with AI, served ala Biden/Trump/US Congress:
“Military officers destitute of military knowledge; naval officers with no idea of a ship; civil officers without a notion of affairs; brazen ecclesiastics, of the worst worldly, with sensual eyes, loose tongues, and looser lives; all totally unfit for their several callings, all lying horribly in pretending to belong to them, but all nearly or remotely of the order of Monseigneur, and therefore foisted on all public employments from which anything was to be got; these were to be told off by the score and the score. People not immediately connected with Monseigneur or the State, yet equally unconnected with anything that was real, were added to the heap as to the man whose riches, as mere riches, nothing counted. The leprosy of unreality disfigured every human creature in attendance upon Monseigneur.”
You are so right, Caitlin. Also, I wonder if the "AI proponent" you were chatting with might not be a bot - or an NPC. They use these methods to convince us that everybody else is doing it or thinks it's fine. That is how they gaslight us into accepting the unthinkable. Keep doing what you're doing.
"What happens when a government killing a chatbot company with an antitrust initiative is seen as identical to a government committing genocide?" Well, that probably won't change, anyway.
This fits well into a world of lock downs and 45 minute cities. I also read the other day that people will be conned into thinking there is a civil war happening through their socials when outside IRL there will be nothing happening. I guess this is where these AI bots play a big role in doing the thinking for the majority.
and this gets at a key reason for the massive hype on AI. They need enormous amounts of cash (and electricity) so they need to convince investors that AI is the Next Big Thing--in which they're aided by the fact that the investors/venture capitalists are desperately seeking the Next Big Thing to invest in, because they're richer than God but the richer they get the more anxious they are to make even more money, and they already own oil companies and drug companies and enough real estate in desirable cities to make it difficult for the people who work there to live close enough to the cities to get to their jobs.
Those consequences are for the little people to deal with. People Who Matter just slide to the next consulting gig, the next boardroom, the next think tank sinecure, the next "visiting scholar" post, the next government post, the next grift.
Simple minded and easily led as humans already are, AI chatbots makes these tasks even easier at scale.
"We aren’t close to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), but we are reshaping our world on the premise that we are. I think we are making a huge mistake."
-Gary Marcus, "The Grand AGI Delusion", Oct. 12, '25. https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-grand-agi-delusion
Yeah that's going to be the big sticking point with AI technology moving forward: AGI. You can mimic human behavior to some extent, but there is a boat load of human comprehension skills, free-will, and bigger picture understanding a computer will never replicate (IMO).
Pitiful beings, Feral, ain’t they?
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Thank You Caitlin
I think my parents would like it better if I were a chatbot... I would be so much more agreeable. They could program me to be just what they always wanted. Yuck.
I'm sure the AI "innovators" thank you for this splendid idea for the next ap. If they haven't already got it in development. Hey! Having an actual human baby is so expensive, and full of donwnsides--for just a small monthly fee you can purchase a fake baby, you get to choose the particulars...
This already why people are having dogs instead of babies. At least you can cuddle a dog.
Maybe that's all we are - biological chatbots? That's what they want us to believe now. Right?
Does A I stand for America/Israeli Companies? Free Palestinne.
Absolutely hit nail on head! “Do they really view other people as just empty images moving around making noises?”
This is a step closer to transhumanism —merging technology with humanity.
From AI chatbots to wearables—heck to cell phones, they’re really trying to make these devices apart of our body.
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/from-analog-to-digital-to-cellular
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-people-are-falling-in-love-with
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-trump-and-rfk-are-advancing-transhumanism
Sooner we know, sooner we can resist
Say thank you to transgender ideology for laying the foundations....
1,000% !!! Transgender was the bridgeway for Transhumanism! 1,000% correct indeed!
Lol. It starts with the same Letters, it has to be connected.
I’m sure you can provide us with relevant evidence for your assertion.
AI Catfishing. Soon there will be gofundme for various AI, when the bubble pops.
The flip side is also well underway: as capital elevates AIs to the status of real humans, real humans are degraded and treated as mere consumers and robotic wage slaves from whom to extract surplus value.
That already happened decades ago.
if not centuries ago
Now I'm worried that next time my kids have me speak to the camera that they are planning for my immediate demise so that they can hold on to me through AI, rather than having to deal with the complicated, more human, and aging me!
Maybe your kids have been replaced by AI replicas?
Some people fail to understand that artificial is, by definition, not real 🙄
No. Artificial stems from artifice, as in 'created'. While it's true this is often connected with deception, this is not the full meaning of the word. Many humans claim that god artificed life. I disagree. Our emergence seems to have been entirely accidental, or possibly the generation of an evil entity. Neither makes us inherently better than something that is created by design rather than by accident.
It seems to require a superior intelligence to create an ‘artificial’ intelligence, so what is the point of it? Nobody with the ability to think for themselves needs a machine to think for them!
'It seems to require a superior intelligence to create an ‘artificial’ intelligence'
This is incorrect. You need to explore the phenomenon so you understand it better.
There is no interiority (self-awareness, comprehension, emotions) to a computer or a robot. The two are not the same, and (IMO) will never be the same - despite the insistence of many supposedly very super smart people, that in theory, they really are the same.
Charles Dickens predicts the future with AI, served ala Biden/Trump/US Congress:
“Military officers destitute of military knowledge; naval officers with no idea of a ship; civil officers without a notion of affairs; brazen ecclesiastics, of the worst worldly, with sensual eyes, loose tongues, and looser lives; all totally unfit for their several callings, all lying horribly in pretending to belong to them, but all nearly or remotely of the order of Monseigneur, and therefore foisted on all public employments from which anything was to be got; these were to be told off by the score and the score. People not immediately connected with Monseigneur or the State, yet equally unconnected with anything that was real, were added to the heap as to the man whose riches, as mere riches, nothing counted. The leprosy of unreality disfigured every human creature in attendance upon Monseigneur.”
You are so right, Caitlin. Also, I wonder if the "AI proponent" you were chatting with might not be a bot - or an NPC. They use these methods to convince us that everybody else is doing it or thinks it's fine. That is how they gaslight us into accepting the unthinkable. Keep doing what you're doing.
"What happens when a government killing a chatbot company with an antitrust initiative is seen as identical to a government committing genocide?" Well, that probably won't change, anyway.
What if we all are Chatbots and just don't know it yet? I mean, there is Blade Runner right?
Catbots?
Maybe the Categorical imperative of the Universe?
Your guess is as good as mine....
I'm worried now ...
Why?
This fits well into a world of lock downs and 45 minute cities. I also read the other day that people will be conned into thinking there is a civil war happening through their socials when outside IRL there will be nothing happening. I guess this is where these AI bots play a big role in doing the thinking for the majority.
Look at the people promoting AI. Last week, they were all in cryptocurrency.
Modern society is often characterized by the lack of consideration of possible 2nd/3rd order consequences (see: massive illegal immigration).
and this gets at a key reason for the massive hype on AI. They need enormous amounts of cash (and electricity) so they need to convince investors that AI is the Next Big Thing--in which they're aided by the fact that the investors/venture capitalists are desperately seeking the Next Big Thing to invest in, because they're richer than God but the richer they get the more anxious they are to make even more money, and they already own oil companies and drug companies and enough real estate in desirable cities to make it difficult for the people who work there to live close enough to the cities to get to their jobs.
Exactly.
Hype with the purpose of creating demand and investment inflows.
Also called marketing.
Those consequences are for the little people to deal with. People Who Matter just slide to the next consulting gig, the next boardroom, the next think tank sinecure, the next "visiting scholar" post, the next government post, the next grift.
100%
America in all its current glory.
Claiming that a chatbot is one’s father is a potent enough lie to qualify as an act of violence against reality.