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Sarah Westall's avatar

Most of this article was good. What is missing is how foreign very wealthy central bankers, starting in 1913 coopted the American Government. That's when foreign entanglements started (i.e. WWI). Until you understand the global economic system, things will not make sense and you will believe that America is at fault for everything worldwide. As for voting, there are more people in office than the president. The globalist regime knows this and have a well funded machine down to the local levels. What your state, city, school board does can significantly affect you. So who you vote in at those levels matter. Saying it doesn't matter who you vote for is silly, especially if you are talking at the local levels. Is it increasingly getting difficult for local people to make a difference, yes. But thats because of the first thing I said above and its the control of the global banking structure. Central bankers, starting in 2018 in their annual Jackson Hole Wyoming convention, stated that their goal is to go around governments and set budgets for countries using carbon credits and other means. That goal is well under way. You must understand this if you want to understand the "Empire"

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Carolyn's avatar

Yes, the local levels of government have importance. With most things, you start at the bottom and work your way up and it is the same in this case.

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Wizard's avatar

You and/or Naomi Wolf claim the election will not happen, but the elites have an incentive to make people think they have a say in how the federal government will run. Presidential elections are to good a con to give up.

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Sarah Westall's avatar

More than the president is elected during the elections. Local elections occur too and people forget that.

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martin's avatar

caitlin often speaks about the 'us centralized empire'. finance capitalism is indeed a favorite international tool of empire to wreak havoc on those they want to exploit, but this tool needs the back-up of empire's most favorite tool, violence. empire uses the world largest military for this which is america's. america is the lair of empire.

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John Turcot's avatar

Sarah,

"Central bankers," "global banking structure." "Empire"....

If the above isn't yet clear for every Earthling, then one is surely an alien.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

The State is the most powerful COMPULSORY entity in a territory usually with its name too

Ony it has a coercive monopoly on the (legal) use of force/violence

That such an entity could be taken over by some businessmen when their most powerful asset is only their money I find very unlikely

They used that money to buy politicians who ACCEPTED

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John Turcot's avatar

Howard,

"most powerful asset is only their money I find very unlikely. " MMmm.!!!.. On the planet where I live MONEY is the most powerful entity of the universe that involves humanity. If there are more powerful entities, I must have missed that lesson..

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

So if you face someone with a lot of money or someone that had a coercive monopoly on the legal use of force, which would you fear ?

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jamenta's avatar

Howard, we all know who is running the US government, how many well paid lobbyists there are for each well paid politician. We all know why Washington DC is now one of the richest pieces of land in the US right now with a ton of millionaires.

You pretend you don't know that, which makes you intellectually dishonest.

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Indu Abeysekara's avatar

jamenta, Glad that you took on the so-called " Libertarian"!

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

Again, money is only as powerful as any other commodity on the market

You either want it or not

The idea that people with money somehow force "poor "politicians into selling their power is a fantasy

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John Turcot's avatar

Howard,

"So if you face someone with a lot of money or someone that had a coercive monopoly on the legal use of force, which would you fear ?"

I wish I could understand your question but for the sake of just guessing I don't usually face people with a lot of money because they usually like being with people of their kind...

As far as "coercive monopoly" and their legal use of force electric utility providers come to mind, and if you don't pay ransoms to their coffers you'll be without electrical power for awhile. To your question,, " which one would I fear?" I fear the latter, the former have basically ignored me.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

I thought that was pretty clear.

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Sarah Westall's avatar

You would need to look at the debates back then to understand what really occurred. Astor, who was killed on the Titanic, was the only holdout at the time. And yes, the money masters are always very powerful and "buy out" politicians. That is why the constitution was formed the way it was. They worked on getting a central bank in place for over 100 years. It was the big prize and they got it. The people only allowed it to happen because of ignorance. The same ignorance we have today. Although, they were more informed back then then we are today. Almost no one knows what I am talking about. The "freedom" movement and the anti war people are almost all ignorant to what I am sharing. They are fighting the shadows hard and it won't make a single bit of difference because the fight is directed at the branches, not the root.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

Why are businesses powerful for offering money but the state seems innocent for accepting it in exchange for power they sold ?

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Sarah Westall's avatar

No one is innocent. And anyone with a lot of money is powerful if used to control people. That's why blackmail works.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

Money cannot control you unless you deem it necessary to take it

I am not sure I know of any politicians that fit that requirement

They ALL seem pretty rich to me whether left or right

The power of The COMPULSORY State can control anyone who is not as powerful and does not have the power to legalize their actions

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notBob's avatar

Every politician takes an oath of office to honor the Constitution and essentially not betray the people or the nation. Business, corporations and the like do not take any oath.

Politicians are 100% responsible for the corruption and bribery and holding them responsible to their oath is the only leverage we have short of revolutionary war.

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Howard Pearce - Libertarian's avatar

"coopted the American Government."

The government essentially sold their power

They were not coopted

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jamenta's avatar

They sold their power to the Elite uber wealthy, who then proceeded to reduce taxes on themselves, loosen all banking regulations and labor regulations i.e. an assault on ordinary working class Americans, also known as class warfare, and proceeded to off shore a great deal of there record profits as well, along with practicing vulture and crony capitalism.

Then you have the patsies called Libertarians who supported these same Uber Elite wealthy ruthless exploiters of the US by ideologically supporting their wealth plunder. And to fucking stupid to realize it.

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mois78's avatar

Dear Sarah, it is so crooked beyond belief that our government agreed that a gang of banksters will print our money, and lend us that worthless paper as loans with interest. If you or I print money, we will go to jail.

Now, what if our government gave you and I the permission to print moneys? We will print 24x7 mountains of cash! Actually, today's computer saves us the printing processes? We can click on the computer mouse and have 100 trillion dollars?

What you and I can do with 100 trillion dollars? Buy every focking congressman, Senator, president, newspaper, TV and Hollywood?

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Sarah Westall's avatar

That's what they do. But they don't "buy" their allegiance with just money. They use whatever they can... blackmail is used if necessary. The people who are independent and truly want to make a difference (typically at the lower levels) do need support. They are fighting and putting themselves out there. We are so caught up in the presidential election we are blind to the big machine that runs everything.

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