It's so weird because we are watching white supremacist colonialism in action and we'd been taught that it belonged to a less civilised, darker age and that only economic or neocolonialism now exist.
All this talk about did Hamas do 'war crimes and atrocities'? The occupation and control of Gaza is illegal therefore using the law to condemn Hamas is like saying it's bad if you punch someone who's attacking you because you're not allowed to do that under international law. What did they think violence would produce?
Genocide is never justified under law; period. The only way to justify it in the media is if Palestinians aren't human, that none of them are civilians and that Israel (founded on 'race' discrimination) has a right to racist supremacist apartheid.
I've always wondered what the British people at the time thought about colonialism in Africa and stealing people's land. Now I know. Powerless to stop it.
Thank you. So well stated. Plus, as Scott Ritter says, the occupier has no right of self defense. It’s the occupied that have the right of self defense—just as your analogy shows. Israel is the occupier, just as the U.S. is the occupier of Iraq, where our army bases are coming under increased attack from the occupied. So now the Us is using these attacks to fly bombing raids over Hezbollah sites, daring Iran to step in. I think Iran is too smart to join in military battle, but it truly shows how completely insane the US is. And it will hasten our demise.
Thank you Jeano. I agree with everything you say. The US neocons and Israeli Zionists are spoilt brat toddlers in a world that's grown up. I think they will let the US wear themselves out; banging their fists and thrashing about in a temper tantrum until it's got nothing left.
I totally agree, and I think they’ll demonstrate that international problems must be solved with international diplomacy. Now that the UN is our bitch, it’s becoming the duty (and opportunity) of others to exert non-military pressure on the savage outlaw nations. I see South Africa has started that with a BRICS+ meeting, I see that Saudi Arabia is holding out the Abraham Accords as bait for Israel to stand down. Certainly Iran is holding its fire in the hopes of a peaceful settlement. Apparently China has good relations with Israel—ya gotta wonder what’s being said behind the veil. As much as I want a hero nation to ride to the defense of the children of Gaza with guns blazing and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, it just isn’t a solution in this new era.
"Which is an entirely inappropriate level of verbal fellatio for an achievement as minimal as not murdering children for a few days". Caitlin's wise words.
I agree with Jeano and others. The mainstream media and the political class banging on about Israel's right to self defence won't deceive us. The occupier Israel has no right of self defence. The occupied not only has the right of self defence but has the right to resist the occupation by any means possible.
The Pogroms and the holocaust were entirely the barbaric behaviour of Western powers. They created Israel to get rid of their "problem". It is ironical that the Palestinian people who had nothing to do with the holocaust are paying for it.
It is also time to call out Israel on the use of anti-semitism. A now powerful Israel has forfeited the right to trot out its cynical use of the word anti-semitism to silence all voices raised against its atrocities.
I’m going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt, Neil, that you are just under-or misinformed. There are many many sources which can provide you information about how Israel’s military has a blockade on Gaza. Are you familiar with the concept of a blockade? It means that they are restricting the movement of both individuals and necessary supplies into and out of Gaza. Israel also manages/controls (and restricts to well below international acceptable standards) water access to Gaza in the “best of times” (ie when they’re not mercilessly bombing children families and hospitals)
Here are some sources providing information regarding the reality on the ground in Gaza and how their lives are shaped/controlled by the Israel military. In case you’d like to claim bias, none of them are news orgs--they’re all HUMANITARIAN AID orgs.
There is no doubt that Hamas has done 'war crimes and atrocities'.
You equate killing babies, raping and murdering women, and burning civilians alive with punching someone?
Do you know the definition of genocide? Hamas has declared that they will continue to attack Israel until it is destroyed. That is genocide.
Who in the media is saying Palestinians are not human? Can you quote the source and date? Who is saying there are no Palestinian civilians? Hamas terrorists are not civilians.
Who in the media says that Israel has the right to apartheid?
It's so weird because we are watching white supremacist colonialism in action and we'd been taught that it belonged to a less civilised, darker age and that only economic or neocolonialism now exist.
All this talk about did Hamas do 'war crimes and atrocities'? The occupation and control of Gaza is illegal therefore using the law to condemn Hamas is like saying it's bad if you punch someone who's attacking you because you're not allowed to do that under international law. What did they think violence would produce?
Genocide is never justified under law; period. The only way to justify it in the media is if Palestinians aren't human, that none of them are civilians and that Israel (founded on 'race' discrimination) has a right to racist supremacist apartheid.
I've always wondered what the British people at the time thought about colonialism in Africa and stealing people's land. Now I know. Powerless to stop it.
Thank you. So well stated. Plus, as Scott Ritter says, the occupier has no right of self defense. It’s the occupied that have the right of self defense—just as your analogy shows. Israel is the occupier, just as the U.S. is the occupier of Iraq, where our army bases are coming under increased attack from the occupied. So now the Us is using these attacks to fly bombing raids over Hezbollah sites, daring Iran to step in. I think Iran is too smart to join in military battle, but it truly shows how completely insane the US is. And it will hasten our demise.
Thank you Jeano. I agree with everything you say. The US neocons and Israeli Zionists are spoilt brat toddlers in a world that's grown up. I think they will let the US wear themselves out; banging their fists and thrashing about in a temper tantrum until it's got nothing left.
I totally agree, and I think they’ll demonstrate that international problems must be solved with international diplomacy. Now that the UN is our bitch, it’s becoming the duty (and opportunity) of others to exert non-military pressure on the savage outlaw nations. I see South Africa has started that with a BRICS+ meeting, I see that Saudi Arabia is holding out the Abraham Accords as bait for Israel to stand down. Certainly Iran is holding its fire in the hopes of a peaceful settlement. Apparently China has good relations with Israel—ya gotta wonder what’s being said behind the veil. As much as I want a hero nation to ride to the defense of the children of Gaza with guns blazing and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, it just isn’t a solution in this new era.
"Which is an entirely inappropriate level of verbal fellatio for an achievement as minimal as not murdering children for a few days". Caitlin's wise words.
I agree with Jeano and others. The mainstream media and the political class banging on about Israel's right to self defence won't deceive us. The occupier Israel has no right of self defence. The occupied not only has the right of self defence but has the right to resist the occupation by any means possible.
The Pogroms and the holocaust were entirely the barbaric behaviour of Western powers. They created Israel to get rid of their "problem". It is ironical that the Palestinian people who had nothing to do with the holocaust are paying for it.
It is also time to call out Israel on the use of anti-semitism. A now powerful Israel has forfeited the right to trot out its cynical use of the word anti-semitism to silence all voices raised against its atrocities.
I am hoping that Iran steps back and looks at the big picture. They are being goaded. Aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea. Why?
There was no occupation since 2005 when Israel withdrew from Gaza. Hamas is oppressing the civilians of Gaza. Israel is not occupying Gaza.
This is a place of antisemites
I entered by mistake
I’m going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt, Neil, that you are just under-or misinformed. There are many many sources which can provide you information about how Israel’s military has a blockade on Gaza. Are you familiar with the concept of a blockade? It means that they are restricting the movement of both individuals and necessary supplies into and out of Gaza. Israel also manages/controls (and restricts to well below international acceptable standards) water access to Gaza in the “best of times” (ie when they’re not mercilessly bombing children families and hospitals)
Here are some sources providing information regarding the reality on the ground in Gaza and how their lives are shaped/controlled by the Israel military. In case you’d like to claim bias, none of them are news orgs--they’re all HUMANITARIAN AID orgs.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/
https://www.oxfam.org/en/failing-gaza-undrinkable-water-no-access-toilets-and-little-hope-horizon
https://www.unicef.org/mena/documents/gaza-strip-humanitarian-impact-15-years-blockade-june-
Can we stop using horrible words because you don't like a remark.
We as people are all in this together.
There is no doubt that Hamas has done 'war crimes and atrocities'.
You equate killing babies, raping and murdering women, and burning civilians alive with punching someone?
Do you know the definition of genocide? Hamas has declared that they will continue to attack Israel until it is destroyed. That is genocide.
Who in the media is saying Palestinians are not human? Can you quote the source and date? Who is saying there are no Palestinian civilians? Hamas terrorists are not civilians.
Who in the media says that Israel has the right to apartheid?
There is no apartheid. Arabs live in Israel.
No one is stealing Palestinians' land.
A perfect revelation of the propaganda if this is sarcasm. I'm not sure that it is. Still very revealing either way.
Not propaganda, not sarcasm.
Good for you.
Tweet tweet tweet, methinks the Security State Bird doth protest too much.
Neil you are living in a parallel universe. We on Caitlin's post, object to your plagiarising of tired old propaganda.