The territory of Palestine was never a "country". The Zionists & the UK fought a war contesting the territory. The Zionists won both the war & the territory. The proverb "To the Victor Go the Spoils" applies here. The British no longer control the former (or present) territory of Palestine, so they can't "give it back to the Palestinians". If the Israelis were willing to reject Israel's being a Jewish ethnostate, they could give Gaza & the West Bank back to the Palestinians, but they won't. They would argue that without a country of their own, the Jews of the world would never be safe, & someone argued in one of these comments exactly the same for the Palestinians. Perhaps both arguments are true. I don't know. But it seems patently clear that there cannot & will not exist two ethnostates in the old Palestinian territory. Too many entities are against it. It's not even a stalemate. It's a "This is the way things are, mate. It ain't Cyprus."
For all warriors (I'm not a warrior) might is right, & what's justified is what one can get away with. Lots of Holocaust deniers believe the Holocaust never happened, but some are just trolls. Lots of neo-Nazis believe the Holocaust was justified & are angry bc the Nazis didn't achieve their goals. I don't fit in any of those categories. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is how I suppose some Christians would respond. You do you. It don't matter to me what others think, believe, or say. Sticks & stones etc.
No, I'm just not engaging in any "If pigs could fly" discussions. There's no pseudo-intellectual activity I dislike more than Michael Sandel philosophy of ethics trolley questions. I'm not the Walrus & I don't like oysters.
The territory of Palestine was never a "country". The Zionists & the UK fought a war contesting the territory. The Zionists won both the war & the territory. The proverb "To the Victor Go the Spoils" applies here. The British no longer control the former (or present) territory of Palestine, so they can't "give it back to the Palestinians". If the Israelis were willing to reject Israel's being a Jewish ethnostate, they could give Gaza & the West Bank back to the Palestinians, but they won't. They would argue that without a country of their own, the Jews of the world would never be safe, & someone argued in one of these comments exactly the same for the Palestinians. Perhaps both arguments are true. I don't know. But it seems patently clear that there cannot & will not exist two ethnostates in the old Palestinian territory. Too many entities are against it. It's not even a stalemate. It's a "This is the way things are, mate. It ain't Cyprus."
So if might is right, that would mean that the Holocaust was justified.
For all warriors (I'm not a warrior) might is right, & what's justified is what one can get away with. Lots of Holocaust deniers believe the Holocaust never happened, but some are just trolls. Lots of neo-Nazis believe the Holocaust was justified & are angry bc the Nazis didn't achieve their goals. I don't fit in any of those categories. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is how I suppose some Christians would respond. You do you. It don't matter to me what others think, believe, or say. Sticks & stones etc.
You are trying to change the subject.
No, I'm just not engaging in any "If pigs could fly" discussions. There's no pseudo-intellectual activity I dislike more than Michael Sandel philosophy of ethics trolley questions. I'm not the Walrus & I don't like oysters.
I' was pointing out your hypocrisy and you didn't like it. In fact, you're still trying to change the subject.
But I could not care less what you like.
Sez you. IsraHell won’t exist in another ten years. The world has finally seen them for who they are.
Correct.