But first you need to understand what getting out of hell would be for Palestinian people. You seem to be thinking you (or some other outside source) can tell the people of Palestine how they should resolve the issues. But the issues are more complex than you appear to be seeing and, as well, the people of Palestine may very well not appreciate your "help". It is often a dilemma when we try to help others. The dilemma is to not impose your help. To not be doing it so that YOU will feel better, but trying to really understand how you can facilitate a solution.
The Israel / Palestine conflict is a result of Europe and the US decided they needed somewhere to put all the jews (they didn't want them) and Britain agreed to the use of Palestine for that purpose. You propose to do the same thing with the Palestinians to fix this? Sudan is an inhabited country - they just had their own civil war.
I believe Einstein said "You can't solve a problem using the same thinking that caused it."
I think you came up with your proposal for humane and caring reasons, but it has a colonial tone. The whole part about relocating people is the first thing that comes to mind. The best would be for you to read a bit about helping others and what a complex thing that really is. I worked with people living in poverty for quite a few years. We talked about that thing of making ourselves feel good first and helping others just happened to be part of it. That was not considered the best way to do things. I learned more from that work than I have ever learned anywhere about relating to people in difficult situations. I also stopped thinking of "those less fortunate" and started thinking more about "those more ripped off". Helping others is not the simple do gooder thing we might like it to be when we are in that position of helping.
Maybe just think your project through a bit more. Maybe talk to others in helping professions. If I meet or talk to anyone who really likes this idea, I will let you know.
Peter. In my humble opinion if you start moving a race of people to another place (country) we would be doing exactly the same thing the British did with Israel.
If it's similar to the creation of Israel, the problem is not for the people moving, but for the people that were there in the first place. Do you think I have not taken care of the people that were there in the first place in my proposal? What would you do differently?
I hate the idea of Israel getting what it wants - the whole enchilada sans those pesky Palestinians.
Regardless of how this conflict is resolved, Israel is 100% responsible for making Gaza habitable again, and cleaning up the bombing mess.
I hate the idea of Israel getting what it wants, also, but I love the idea of getting the Palestinians out of hell more.
But first you need to understand what getting out of hell would be for Palestinian people. You seem to be thinking you (or some other outside source) can tell the people of Palestine how they should resolve the issues. But the issues are more complex than you appear to be seeing and, as well, the people of Palestine may very well not appreciate your "help". It is often a dilemma when we try to help others. The dilemma is to not impose your help. To not be doing it so that YOU will feel better, but trying to really understand how you can facilitate a solution.
Do you see anything in my proposal about imposing help? Point it out and I will remove it.
The Israel / Palestine conflict is a result of Europe and the US decided they needed somewhere to put all the jews (they didn't want them) and Britain agreed to the use of Palestine for that purpose. You propose to do the same thing with the Palestinians to fix this? Sudan is an inhabited country - they just had their own civil war.
I believe Einstein said "You can't solve a problem using the same thinking that caused it."
>>I believe Einstein said "You can't solve a problem using the same thinking that caused it."
So very well said dave.jumanji!
This is a pop quiz. Where did I say they would go?
I think you came up with your proposal for humane and caring reasons, but it has a colonial tone. The whole part about relocating people is the first thing that comes to mind. The best would be for you to read a bit about helping others and what a complex thing that really is. I worked with people living in poverty for quite a few years. We talked about that thing of making ourselves feel good first and helping others just happened to be part of it. That was not considered the best way to do things. I learned more from that work than I have ever learned anywhere about relating to people in difficult situations. I also stopped thinking of "those less fortunate" and started thinking more about "those more ripped off". Helping others is not the simple do gooder thing we might like it to be when we are in that position of helping.
I live in the Dominican Republic and I don't know any Palestinians. Do you think I should abandon my project?
You can speak honestly because I'm not going to abandon it.
Now if you know any Palestinians, I would be delighted if you relayed information.
Maybe just think your project through a bit more. Maybe talk to others in helping professions. If I meet or talk to anyone who really likes this idea, I will let you know.
It's like saying that giving up your wallet in response to "Your money or your life!" is both voluntary and a good deal, considering.
Peter. In my humble opinion if you start moving a race of people to another place (country) we would be doing exactly the same thing the British did with Israel.
I wish we could have a conversation.
If it's similar to the creation of Israel, the problem is not for the people moving, but for the people that were there in the first place. Do you think I have not taken care of the people that were there in the first place in my proposal? What would you do differently?