I would support giving Palestine back to the Palestinians or anything that Palestinians wanted. I think what people really want though, is their country, culture, agriculture, and freedom back. I watched this documentary last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCeQt8zg5o and felt sad and angry that all that was taken away by colonizers and made worse when Israel came into being.
I guess. But I think your proposal is kind of wimpy. What people really want is the opportunity to build back up what was stolen. I don't think people anywhere would really want to be relocated to somewhere that was being given to them to get them out of the way. Your proposal would make more sense if the Israelis went to live in "less-developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size close to that of Israel". They are the ones living on stolen land, not the Palestinians.
Completely agree - though with the US and European powers backing Israel, I fear that this situation is going to be harder to resolve in some ways than Nazi Germany where the European powers were aligned against Germany.
As I said to Feral Finster earlier: ".... I'm .... not engaging in any 'If pigs could fly' discussions. There's no pseudo-intellectual activity I dislike more than Michael Sandel philosophy of ethics trolley questions. I'm not the Walrus & I don't like oysters."
First of all many thanks to Caitlin for highlighting the hypocrisy, double standards and hegemonic machinations of empire. It is time that the US be condemned by world civil society for crimes against humanity. The world has witnessed how complicit they are with Israel for the genocide of the Palestinian people. US should be standing in the dock with Israel. Their rules based world disorder has created the dystopia humanity is living through. They can with impunity designate countries and groups as terrorists; sanction countries and steal their assets, stunting their growth. Shamelessly weaponise food and other essential prerequisites for survival. Consumed with power, start wars which they never want to stop.
To Susan T, Chang Chokaski and Jon Carver, It's been interesting following your arguments regarding Peter Rodes Robinson's hairbrained scheme for the Palestinians. Won't Sudan have something to say about it? What gobsmacked me is his assertion that " the establishment of the new country would proceed under UN and US protection". US protection!!!!
Everything you say is true. Would you oppose my proposal, if a super majority of the Palestinians agreed with it?
I would support giving Palestine back to the Palestinians or anything that Palestinians wanted. I think what people really want though, is their country, culture, agriculture, and freedom back. I watched this documentary last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCeQt8zg5o and felt sad and angry that all that was taken away by colonizers and made worse when Israel came into being.
>>anything that Palestinians wanted<<
Including my proposal I assume.
I guess. But I think your proposal is kind of wimpy. What people really want is the opportunity to build back up what was stolen. I don't think people anywhere would really want to be relocated to somewhere that was being given to them to get them out of the way. Your proposal would make more sense if the Israelis went to live in "less-developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size close to that of Israel". They are the ones living on stolen land, not the Palestinians.
Well said Susan T! My sentiments exactly!
Completely agree - though with the US and European powers backing Israel, I fear that this situation is going to be harder to resolve in some ways than Nazi Germany where the European powers were aligned against Germany.
As I said to Feral Finster earlier: ".... I'm .... not engaging in any 'If pigs could fly' discussions. There's no pseudo-intellectual activity I dislike more than Michael Sandel philosophy of ethics trolley questions. I'm not the Walrus & I don't like oysters."
it reminds me very distinctly of another frequent poster.
First of all many thanks to Caitlin for highlighting the hypocrisy, double standards and hegemonic machinations of empire. It is time that the US be condemned by world civil society for crimes against humanity. The world has witnessed how complicit they are with Israel for the genocide of the Palestinian people. US should be standing in the dock with Israel. Their rules based world disorder has created the dystopia humanity is living through. They can with impunity designate countries and groups as terrorists; sanction countries and steal their assets, stunting their growth. Shamelessly weaponise food and other essential prerequisites for survival. Consumed with power, start wars which they never want to stop.
To Susan T, Chang Chokaski and Jon Carver, It's been interesting following your arguments regarding Peter Rodes Robinson's hairbrained scheme for the Palestinians. Won't Sudan have something to say about it? What gobsmacked me is his assertion that " the establishment of the new country would proceed under UN and US protection". US protection!!!!
RIGHT. ON. JON!