Back in 68 lots of people THOUGHT real changes were coming. But mostly they did not. I don't live in a state, I live in a province, but still, there is no real democracy. Still dominated by money and quests for power. The economy take first place. People, the climate, the earth, the creatures who live on the earth.......all subject to the state of the economy. All subject to the whims of a few rich people who value the economy above all else. Corporate media has given in too, mostly reporting in a "safe" manner so as not to lose their funding.
I was not thinking about the stock market when I used the term "economy". I worked at a small newspaper many years ago and the editor refused to publish something that I had written about the subjugation of women because he said "the advertisers won't like it". More recently there was a situation where a provincial premier and his staff tried to sell or give land from the green belt to their wealthy friends. Perhaps using the term "the economy" is incorrect in these situations; perhaps I should have said "individual financial gain".
Real changes were coming and did come, which is why there was such a huge backlash from the terrified Right. I was there. And maybe there’s no real democracy for a people who still considers themselves “subjects” of a king, but where there are citizens there is representative democracy and it’s been proven here over and over. Just because it doesn’t stay that way without constant vigilance doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Running around blaming the rich and the media for your lack of vigilance is just a cop out. And trying to tell me what we thought “back then” is really pathetic.
In our society, now and "back then" the ability to consume seems to indicate to many people that those who have that ability are successful. It is not the rich or the media that are really the issue, but it is our acceptance that they are correct or truthful that is the problem. I was there when we thought those changes were coming. I don't think the right backlash is out of fear alone, but also out of anger at the suggestion that traditional thinking from a religious, political, or societal perspective may not be the only correct way of thinking. In fact, sometimes it may be downright wrong, unethical, inhumane. Right now, witness the horrible backlash against anyone who may express their sexuality differently than the Christian, man/woman perspective. Those people backlashing don't want children to be taught that there are other ways of expressing ourselves other than what those "parent's rights" people think is correct. I have spent a good part of my life working to promote a more humane world. I have seen some progress in the rights of people with disabilities. For a while, things were better for women, but that is regressing quickly. The Vietnam war seems to have taught nothing to anyone. The west has fomented all kinds of wars since then and so many have died. War is a huge contributor to climate destruction as well. And Jeano, rest assured that most Canadians do not consider themselves subject to a king. I can hardly believe I read that.
I’ve known everything you’re mentioning here for 40 years. Not new information as it seems to be to you. Just because the Yuppies ran off to be consumers and vote people off the island instead of voting people out of office, doesn’t mean that we didn’t make real changes in the 60’s and 70’s. And Susan, whether you consider yourselves subjects or not, it’s what your form of government calls you. I’d be so ashamed.
I don't base my feelings of self worth (or lack of) on anything the government says or does. Altho our government is made up of people who are human as I am, we appear to have very different perspectives on how the world should be.
Back in 68 lots of people THOUGHT real changes were coming. But mostly they did not. I don't live in a state, I live in a province, but still, there is no real democracy. Still dominated by money and quests for power. The economy take first place. People, the climate, the earth, the creatures who live on the earth.......all subject to the state of the economy. All subject to the whims of a few rich people who value the economy above all else. Corporate media has given in too, mostly reporting in a "safe" manner so as not to lose their funding.
And it's not even the real economy - it's just the stock market. (The stock market is not the economy!)
I was not thinking about the stock market when I used the term "economy". I worked at a small newspaper many years ago and the editor refused to publish something that I had written about the subjugation of women because he said "the advertisers won't like it". More recently there was a situation where a provincial premier and his staff tried to sell or give land from the green belt to their wealthy friends. Perhaps using the term "the economy" is incorrect in these situations; perhaps I should have said "individual financial gain".
Real changes were coming and did come, which is why there was such a huge backlash from the terrified Right. I was there. And maybe there’s no real democracy for a people who still considers themselves “subjects” of a king, but where there are citizens there is representative democracy and it’s been proven here over and over. Just because it doesn’t stay that way without constant vigilance doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Running around blaming the rich and the media for your lack of vigilance is just a cop out. And trying to tell me what we thought “back then” is really pathetic.
In our society, now and "back then" the ability to consume seems to indicate to many people that those who have that ability are successful. It is not the rich or the media that are really the issue, but it is our acceptance that they are correct or truthful that is the problem. I was there when we thought those changes were coming. I don't think the right backlash is out of fear alone, but also out of anger at the suggestion that traditional thinking from a religious, political, or societal perspective may not be the only correct way of thinking. In fact, sometimes it may be downright wrong, unethical, inhumane. Right now, witness the horrible backlash against anyone who may express their sexuality differently than the Christian, man/woman perspective. Those people backlashing don't want children to be taught that there are other ways of expressing ourselves other than what those "parent's rights" people think is correct. I have spent a good part of my life working to promote a more humane world. I have seen some progress in the rights of people with disabilities. For a while, things were better for women, but that is regressing quickly. The Vietnam war seems to have taught nothing to anyone. The west has fomented all kinds of wars since then and so many have died. War is a huge contributor to climate destruction as well. And Jeano, rest assured that most Canadians do not consider themselves subject to a king. I can hardly believe I read that.
"The Vietnam war seems to have taught nothing to anyone."
What do you mean? The Vietnam War taught the oligarchs many things, such as how better to manage the press and public opinion.
I’ve known everything you’re mentioning here for 40 years. Not new information as it seems to be to you. Just because the Yuppies ran off to be consumers and vote people off the island instead of voting people out of office, doesn’t mean that we didn’t make real changes in the 60’s and 70’s. And Susan, whether you consider yourselves subjects or not, it’s what your form of government calls you. I’d be so ashamed.
good thing you live where you do then.
Yes. And it’s no accident. And your self worth is beside the point. It’s the worth of others that counts. What do you do for them?
your comments are quite confusing. Sometimes they make a lot of sense to me and other times it just seems like you are looking for a fight.
I don't base my feelings of self worth (or lack of) on anything the government says or does. Altho our government is made up of people who are human as I am, we appear to have very different perspectives on how the world should be.