I think that you and Caitlin are both correct. First you need to convince yourself it's all a lie, and that the one who's lying to you is also you. I think, imho, that this involves giving other people the benefit of the doubt that they also want what you want, but just aren't 'there' yet. That's the liberation when you know you're playing a role in a play but you start to go off-script. You start responding to other people from a real place of connecting with them and encouraging them--not challenging them in a better-than-thou way.
If you walk out the door alone, where do you go? Into a cave in the woods? You're still going to be with other people.
In my episode on Questioning the Greater Reset, I address this question of whether you can change the system by dropping out or only truly drop out by changing the system. But nothing is more powerful, I suspect, than an actor who know she's acting and can rewrite the ending.
I wouldn't normally belabor a point but your unwillingness to share being right with Caitlin, and insisting instead that you must be right while she is wrong, emboldens me. There should be a Latin term for the rhetorical device of telling someone to go buy a book and read Ch. 10, instead of just telling them whatever of it proves your point. I did read something of Douglass recently, though, that talked about the woman who taught him to read and the community of people who stood up for him and protected him among whites. And he definitely didn't use his liberation to walk away from slavery and leave everyone else enslaved.
So when you answered Starry that there's a difference between interdependence and codependence, are you saying that we're psychologically enslaved while you're free? What indicates to you that we're not as free-thinking as you if we get along with other people and engage with them rather than disengaging? I think the Bodhisattvas have it right, and the Three Musketeers--not one without all.
I think that you and Caitlin are both correct. First you need to convince yourself it's all a lie, and that the one who's lying to you is also you. I think, imho, that this involves giving other people the benefit of the doubt that they also want what you want, but just aren't 'there' yet. That's the liberation when you know you're playing a role in a play but you start to go off-script. You start responding to other people from a real place of connecting with them and encouraging them--not challenging them in a better-than-thou way.
If you walk out the door alone, where do you go? Into a cave in the woods? You're still going to be with other people.
In my episode on Questioning the Greater Reset, I address this question of whether you can change the system by dropping out or only truly drop out by changing the system. But nothing is more powerful, I suspect, than an actor who know she's acting and can rewrite the ending.
https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/what-is-the-greater-reset
Tereza, read that chapter by Frederick Douglass. It will answer your question.
I wouldn't normally belabor a point but your unwillingness to share being right with Caitlin, and insisting instead that you must be right while she is wrong, emboldens me. There should be a Latin term for the rhetorical device of telling someone to go buy a book and read Ch. 10, instead of just telling them whatever of it proves your point. I did read something of Douglass recently, though, that talked about the woman who taught him to read and the community of people who stood up for him and protected him among whites. And he definitely didn't use his liberation to walk away from slavery and leave everyone else enslaved.
So when you answered Starry that there's a difference between interdependence and codependence, are you saying that we're psychologically enslaved while you're free? What indicates to you that we're not as free-thinking as you if we get along with other people and engage with them rather than disengaging? I think the Bodhisattvas have it right, and the Three Musketeers--not one without all.