"This is one of the reasons why I have no patience for rightists who whine about immigrants. It is not legitimate to live in a civilization which bombs, destabilizes, exploits and extracts from the global south and then complain when the victims of the bombing, destabilization, exploitation and extraction move to your country to get away from the misery your society caused them."
I agree completely, and this should be as clear as day to anyone.
Also, unless we're indigenous, those we descended from were immigrants.
A neighbour of mine in one of her whines went on and on about immigrants taking everything from this country - she obviously meant those of colour, however slight. I stood there wondering when it would click that she was saying this to an immigrant, seems since I'm white with an accent -Scottish, I'm okay so it never entered her head yesterday she might be including the person to whom she was bitching.
In North and South America, even the “indigenous” are descended from immigrants. Their oral history says they arrived in those continents approximately 11,000 years ago, from Asia.
Migration with weather patterns, herds, etc. was the fluid nature of life on Earth for thousands of years until nationalism with it's borders and systems of power, control, barriers and hoarding spread and solidified.
Don't romanticize the pre-Nations\Nationalism situ...Constant migration is nothing I'd wish upon any neighbor or fellow human! Keep da condition of da Human Condition in mind, even if our vision tends to pick & choose beyond our consent or control...
Tio Mitchito
PS - There's always philosophy and other cold comforts we can heat up....Errr, can we heat anything up?
Immigration only applies if there are borders. Indigenous peoples had no borders 11,000 years ago, so they were simply moving around within the natural borders of the one “nation”, Earth. Granted our first common ancestors all started out in Africa, but no border, no immigration.
"This is one of the reasons why I have no patience for rightists who whine about immigrants. It is not legitimate to live in a civilization which bombs, destabilizes, exploits and extracts from the global south and then complain when the victims of the bombing, destabilization, exploitation and extraction move to your country to get away from the misery your society caused them."
I agree completely, and this should be as clear as day to anyone.
Also, unless we're indigenous, those we descended from were immigrants.
Thanks for spelling this out so clearly, Caitlin.
A neighbour of mine in one of her whines went on and on about immigrants taking everything from this country - she obviously meant those of colour, however slight. I stood there wondering when it would click that she was saying this to an immigrant, seems since I'm white with an accent -Scottish, I'm okay so it never entered her head yesterday she might be including the person to whom she was bitching.
In North and South America, even the “indigenous” are descended from immigrants. Their oral history says they arrived in those continents approximately 11,000 years ago, from Asia.
Migration with weather patterns, herds, etc. was the fluid nature of life on Earth for thousands of years until nationalism with it's borders and systems of power, control, barriers and hoarding spread and solidified.
Don't romanticize the pre-Nations\Nationalism situ...Constant migration is nothing I'd wish upon any neighbor or fellow human! Keep da condition of da Human Condition in mind, even if our vision tends to pick & choose beyond our consent or control...
Tio Mitchito
PS - There's always philosophy and other cold comforts we can heat up....Errr, can we heat anything up?
Immigration only applies if there are borders. Indigenous peoples had no borders 11,000 years ago, so they were simply moving around within the natural borders of the one “nation”, Earth. Granted our first common ancestors all started out in Africa, but no border, no immigration.
Semantics!
Then, let’s say “migration” that doesn’t need manmade borders. 😀