Maybe voting itself didn't get us into this mess, but accepting that voting is the way to change things might have done. We need another system. And if we insist on voting, we need to have moral people to vote for. We might get that if we work toward ending racism, sexism, ageism, poverty, war etc.
The “Dark Money” votes daily with “one dollar, one vote” via lobbyists, insider trading information, patronage of government officials and their families, etc.
The mostly unseen billionaires who own the mass media are persistently spreading propaganda to support their self interests, while suppressing news that doesn’t.
Then we need to educate ourselves to NOT accept that propaganda. It is obvious to anyone who looks and listens that it IS propaganda and that none of these wars, imprisoning of immigrants, raising rents etc benefits anyone at all but those who already have money.
Great idea. But, educating yourself is only the beginning. It’s necessary to educate several million more of the ignorant. Approximately 70 million MAGA cult members are uncertain.
CK, it's not just MAGA. It's 99% of the population. It's EVERYONE that supports this system of Capitalism that continues to exploit and oppress EVERYONE under it.
In fairness to the ignorant, millions of people have been indoctrinated into accepting the status quo without realizing that better alternatives can exist — and do exist for those who seek them.
I have been educating myself about this for a few decades. I have acquired some allies in the process. I have also been shunned by ignorant suckers, many of whom are racists, misogynists of various levels of income and wealth.
The current “voting” system only allows the voters to choose among the lesser of any two evil representatives. The “representative voting” never allows “the people” to vote upon specific issues or legislation.
Yes, and that is by design. So far in history, no democracy has been a TRUE democracy. Even Athenian democracy excluded women, slaves, and non-residents from political participation, which meant that only adult male citizens could vote and hold office.
Today's incarnations of democracy don't seem to be much better...
Hence for a few years now of late recognition on my dim bulb part do I add the pre-fix Pay2Play\Pay-2-Ply "democracy."
Changing that can happen on the cheap via Town Hall meetings & Public Forums. Yet it will be a heavy and sustained LIFT that gets that dream off the grounds of gravity....
Town Halls can be great, but getting serious people to attend them is a challenge. At the national level, the RNC and DNC are heavily “influenced” by “Big Money” and “Dark Money” to ignore or suppress the will of the Town Hall participants.
Public ignorance and apathy are in abundance. I also hear the complaints about “I don’t have the time. I’m too buy.” I might accept that from low-paid parents who work multiple jobs just to get by.
I am frustrated to hear that from retirees living on pensions or Social Security, with nothing better to do than complain, privately, but not at the Town Halls — which they usually don’t attend.
Just like voting didn't get us into this mess, the system does what it wants with or without the people.
Maybe voting itself didn't get us into this mess, but accepting that voting is the way to change things might have done. We need another system. And if we insist on voting, we need to have moral people to vote for. We might get that if we work toward ending racism, sexism, ageism, poverty, war etc.
The “Dark Money” votes daily with “one dollar, one vote” via lobbyists, insider trading information, patronage of government officials and their families, etc.
The mostly unseen billionaires who own the mass media are persistently spreading propaganda to support their self interests, while suppressing news that doesn’t.
Then we need to educate ourselves to NOT accept that propaganda. It is obvious to anyone who looks and listens that it IS propaganda and that none of these wars, imprisoning of immigrants, raising rents etc benefits anyone at all but those who already have money.
Great idea. But, educating yourself is only the beginning. It’s necessary to educate several million more of the ignorant. Approximately 70 million MAGA cult members are uncertain.
CK, it's not just MAGA. It's 99% of the population. It's EVERYONE that supports this system of Capitalism that continues to exploit and oppress EVERYONE under it.
Chang Chokaski, I wish that I could disagree.
In fairness to the ignorant, millions of people have been indoctrinated into accepting the status quo without realizing that better alternatives can exist — and do exist for those who seek them.
one step at a time. we can only educate ourselves to start with. If we can make it look good, others will follow
Susan T,
Keep on trying.
I have been educating myself about this for a few decades. I have acquired some allies in the process. I have also been shunned by ignorant suckers, many of whom are racists, misogynists of various levels of income and wealth.
The current “voting” system only allows the voters to choose among the lesser of any two evil representatives. The “representative voting” never allows “the people” to vote upon specific issues or legislation.
Yes, and that is by design. So far in history, no democracy has been a TRUE democracy. Even Athenian democracy excluded women, slaves, and non-residents from political participation, which meant that only adult male citizens could vote and hold office.
Today's incarnations of democracy don't seem to be much better...
The elite “Founders” of the USA studied the history of Rome and Greece.
Hence for a few years now of late recognition on my dim bulb part do I add the pre-fix Pay2Play\Pay-2-Ply "democracy."
Changing that can happen on the cheap via Town Hall meetings & Public Forums. Yet it will be a heavy and sustained LIFT that gets that dream off the grounds of gravity....
Warmly and appreciatively to all participants
Tio Mitchito
Gracias, Tio Mitchito,
Town Halls can be great, but getting serious people to attend them is a challenge. At the national level, the RNC and DNC are heavily “influenced” by “Big Money” and “Dark Money” to ignore or suppress the will of the Town Hall participants.
Public ignorance and apathy are in abundance. I also hear the complaints about “I don’t have the time. I’m too buy.” I might accept that from low-paid parents who work multiple jobs just to get by.
I am frustrated to hear that from retirees living on pensions or Social Security, with nothing better to do than complain, privately, but not at the Town Halls — which they usually don’t attend.