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Geoff Shaw's avatar

A personal theory of mine is that the videos and posts shared by the people who question covid and the vaccines are actually created by the system. It lowers the bar the system has to maintain when their opposition is sharing rubbish they hand delivered to them. It is almost too easy to get a gist of what the deniers would want to hear, twist it in a way that makes it appealing to them but comes off as totally wack to someone who doesn't share that mindset, and create a toxic environment that feeds dysfunction.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

I have often told the unhinged deniers (who are, for the most part, admitting their goal is to be super spreaders and force wild natural immunity) why they are so determined to spread a Chinese lab leak? I never get an answer, but they are heavy on the globalist conspiracy angle that Gates and Soros are planning a great extermination, etc. One of the latest to emerge was that illegal immigrants are being flooded into USA by shitLIBS to infect our unvaccinated legal citizens (who, I guess they perceive are Trump supporters). It never ends and they do not care how inconsistent or contradictory all the narratives are as long at it fits somewhere in their paranoid landscape. But, we are told, we are the fearful ones, or Jesus is the vaccine, or only the inferior will die of covid, etc. The Dark Ages and that Bicameral mind is still with us. These same psycho manifestations happened with 9/11 and the AIDS hysteria.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

I got both Maderna shots, after which I had a cough and diminished lung capacity for three months, so I'm less than tickled with the idea of getting a booster.

When one factors in the rush in producing the vaccine, the same media and politicians telling us to get vaccinated continue to lie to us about COVID and most everything else, that the producers of the vaccine have granted themselves immunity from liability, and mask mandates are being enforced politically and not scientifically, reluctance to getting vaccinated becomes much more understandable aside from those ever-present conspiracy spreaders.

Just my two cents.

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Paul Cardin's avatar

Conspiracies happen.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

My attempt was to demonstrate that there are any number of reasons why someone might not want to get vaccinated in the current climate, and that such objections cannot be simply dismissed as irrational. Conspiracies do indeed happen, while others are clearly, to me at least, bullshit

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

I have emphysema and once had a collapsed lung. In 2010, was in hospital 8 days from Swine, nearly killed me. Took Moderna and was fine -- just kinda icky for a couple of days. I also take 2x 5K Vit D a day and eat veggie diet, big on probiotics. Been a on an immune boosting diet long time. ALways the issues with vaccines it you can get contaminated before your last jab or before your first. Always a risk. We knew Delta was a game changer. My childhood friend's dad is 95. Insisted on going to restaurants and got a breakthru case of covid. Though fever and other issues, never got to his lungs. Everyone getting breakthrough I know are coming through fine.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

I do realize that not all people holding off on vaccines are of the school I just mentioned, and they are playing safe by all other rules.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Being a vaccine and pharma critical person, I had had little issue with people holding off on the vaccine. it is the anti mask, anti vax, pro wild natural immunity super spreaders who are openly calling for rapid spread of covid. We have them on our community boards, they are very clear about their intent and purpose.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

In that vein it's instructive that our own government is helping to spread COVID by preventing generic vaccine production to punish our "enemies" Iran and Venezuela. Sick and ghoulish.

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