I know exactly how you feel Gpcus, since I feel it too and am grappling with the same questions that you are.
>>"How do you cope with it? I mean how do you rationalize it to stand up in the morning and go to work or to tell your children everything is OK and their future is radiant?"
What seems to be helping me (though I'm not totally sure):
(1) Anti-depressants
(2) No TV or MSM news sources
(3) Music (playing the piano for me)
(4) some physical exercise
Unfortunately, none of the above strategies have been enough to help me deal emotionally with the ongoing live-streamed Genocide taking place in Gaza. If you do find something that works for you, please do let me know as I seem to be in the same boat as you.
We know it's way worse than we can even imagine. I avoid dwelling too long on some videos. I keep the sound off and don't even look at some. Instagram is my only video source. Still I have cried. I need to know what's really happening, but for my own sanity I can't spend too much time there. I post and repost about it all on Instagram. If enough people would do it, a national strike on work and buying might make a difference.
Chang, I think you are playing with fire using antidepressants, which contain chemicals alien to human biology and genomes, and produce side effects which have their own side effects. If what’s going on somewhere else is wrecking you and your ability to work and father your children, perhaps you should turn off forums like this one as well? For your distress bleeds into your children, who have not yet being affected by the world as you have, they still are empaths, they pick up on, feel what is going on in you. Looking back from 81 years on this planet, I see lots of how I was that my children endured because I was wrapped up in my own dramas and agenda. I worry today for them and their children in a country, America, going to hell, I think. And unable to do lots of things I once did, some because I had to, some because I wanted to, I spend a lot of time online, which saves me from talking a lot more to myself than I already do. Your children need you a lot more now, than they will ten years from now.
I've had a great deal of experience with adults who were severely abused in childhood, and it looks to me that Caitlin and most of her readers who comment under her Gaza posts were severely abused in childhood and are in denial about how abusive their parents were. They emotionally identify with the dead, wounded and oppressed, shellshocked, depressed, starving, displaced people of Gaza and are not able to see their parents and Hamas psychologically are one and the same, pretending love and caring but giving them just the opposite.
I give Hamas and Israel equal credit for the mayhem in Gaza. Hamas imbedded itself within and underneath civilians, making it certain that many civilians would be killed and wounded and displaced and experience diaspora if Israel came to Gaza to fight Hamas, and that the October 7, 2023 raid in Israel was clever bait Hamas hoped would provoke Israel to do precisely what then did in Gaza, which turned Israel into a pariah state likened to Nazi German, supported by America. Instead of defending the people of Gaza, Hamas did the opposite.
"turned Israel into a pariah state likened to Nazi German, supported by America" - Israel was that all along and Hamas attack certainly brought it up to the surface so it's very difficult to no longer pay attention to.
That Israel is and has been a Nazi state from its inception - read history. I believe you've been provided with authors and books already.
Your analysis of Caitlin and her audience is weak, by the way. People who do psychological work like you said you did, often tend to subsequently overestimate their psychic powers.
I have psychic abilities, but that is not what this is about. Hamas was supposed to protect the people of Gaza from Israel, in Gaza. Hamas did just the opposite by provoking Israel to attack Gaza and then fighting to defend Hamas. I think anyone who cannot see that needs counseling. I think anyone who sees it, but doesn’t acknowledge it, will be visited by Lady Karma sooner or later, antdthey may or may not connect the dots.
I do chanting with Krishna Das on utube or Spotify!! it creates warmth and compassion as well as strength through self knowledge that helps in the struggle with the vast delusions of the ruling elites.
This may piss you off but I heard in meditation this morning that I needed to pray for Israel. And yes, I’m like wha?!?!?! But on reflection, I can see that my feelings about Israel are only adding to the miasma of dis-grace that surrounds the Gaza crisis. That my lack of grace towards the “perpetrators” increases their negative energy and negative energy is what we need to stop. I KNOW it sounds too woo-woo for words but that’s what I heard in my thoughts and that’s what I’m going to do, even if I don’t mean it—until I do mean it. Can’t be any worse than being debilitated by grief as I am now. Sometimes I can hardly breathe.
You're right - something like that would indeed piss me off. I pray for Zionism to not exist. I pray for Israel in its current incarnation to not exist. I would rather pray for a million other things. In fact, I think praying for the Palestinians and praying against the Israelis sounds pretty cathartic to me. (Then again, I am an athiest - and I don't think my athiest God is likely to listen to my prayers 😃)
🤗. Ya. Exactly. And I’ve been wish/praying like you do for weeks now. But I do believe in dark matter and in dark energy, and they seem to represent principles of reality that I can’t even imagine. So I’m willing to allow as how the I Ching might have a point when it says “do not do evil the courtesy of fighting it blow for blow, for it only thinks of weapons. Instead, make energetic progress in the good.” It’s entirely possible in a universe so full of strange and confusing stuff, that GOOD is an energy that actually accomplishes what we want. Guess I’ll see when I croak! 😁😆
but I say unto you, Love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you; that ye may be sons of your Father who is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust.
Ya—this is the kind of crap that makes me NOT want to pray for Israel. This is Jehovah’s book. Jehovah, the god the Israelites made up, the guy who needed the sacrifice of his own son before he could accept humanity as being is no better than he made us, the guy who decided the Jews were special and “gave” them Israel. I wouldn’t anymore follow his advice than I’d fuck a duck.
I totally agree with you! These “ leaders” are deluded and insane and raise their young in their own madness - sometimes the only hope for the country is our compassion, understanding and prayers for their enlightenment. Also many Israelies are part of the left wing kibbutz movement and trying to live more socialist lives. They love the Palestinians , have many friends and try to change the dynamics of the state. Most Israelis do not support Neten Yalu or the other far right wing crazies and have been battling with them in demos and vigils in the streets! They as well as the crazies need all our strength and compassion to Wake Up!!!
Well said!!! And really, when we pull heads out, blaming Israel is not the point. It’s AIPAC and all the goy in the US taking their money that is to blame. Israel couldn’t bomb for 10 minutes without us sending them the bombs and planes to do it with. But is there a single march on Washington about this? Does anyone pointing fingers here care to do a sit-in there? I wonder how many are even calling the Corpse in the White House? Mostly what I see here is “o I’m so confused, it’s so hard, it won’t do any good. So I’ll just blame Judaism.” Wake up indeed.
I know exactly how you feel Gpcus, since I feel it too and am grappling with the same questions that you are.
>>"How do you cope with it? I mean how do you rationalize it to stand up in the morning and go to work or to tell your children everything is OK and their future is radiant?"
What seems to be helping me (though I'm not totally sure):
(1) Anti-depressants
(2) No TV or MSM news sources
(3) Music (playing the piano for me)
(4) some physical exercise
Unfortunately, none of the above strategies have been enough to help me deal emotionally with the ongoing live-streamed Genocide taking place in Gaza. If you do find something that works for you, please do let me know as I seem to be in the same boat as you.
We know it's way worse than we can even imagine. I avoid dwelling too long on some videos. I keep the sound off and don't even look at some. Instagram is my only video source. Still I have cried. I need to know what's really happening, but for my own sanity I can't spend too much time there. I post and repost about it all on Instagram. If enough people would do it, a national strike on work and buying might make a difference.
Chang, I think you are playing with fire using antidepressants, which contain chemicals alien to human biology and genomes, and produce side effects which have their own side effects. If what’s going on somewhere else is wrecking you and your ability to work and father your children, perhaps you should turn off forums like this one as well? For your distress bleeds into your children, who have not yet being affected by the world as you have, they still are empaths, they pick up on, feel what is going on in you. Looking back from 81 years on this planet, I see lots of how I was that my children endured because I was wrapped up in my own dramas and agenda. I worry today for them and their children in a country, America, going to hell, I think. And unable to do lots of things I once did, some because I had to, some because I wanted to, I spend a lot of time online, which saves me from talking a lot more to myself than I already do. Your children need you a lot more now, than they will ten years from now.
You forgot plastic smiles. The first thing I'm thinking when I see absent, moronic smiles void of any context - someone is "bigging" themselves up.
One thing good about covid was it wiped them off people's faces. Some continued doing it while masked and that looked even weirder.
You need a rest, "Sloan". I think I already mentioned that elsewhere.
I've had a great deal of experience with adults who were severely abused in childhood, and it looks to me that Caitlin and most of her readers who comment under her Gaza posts were severely abused in childhood and are in denial about how abusive their parents were. They emotionally identify with the dead, wounded and oppressed, shellshocked, depressed, starving, displaced people of Gaza and are not able to see their parents and Hamas psychologically are one and the same, pretending love and caring but giving them just the opposite.
I give Hamas and Israel equal credit for the mayhem in Gaza. Hamas imbedded itself within and underneath civilians, making it certain that many civilians would be killed and wounded and displaced and experience diaspora if Israel came to Gaza to fight Hamas, and that the October 7, 2023 raid in Israel was clever bait Hamas hoped would provoke Israel to do precisely what then did in Gaza, which turned Israel into a pariah state likened to Nazi German, supported by America. Instead of defending the people of Gaza, Hamas did the opposite.
"turned Israel into a pariah state likened to Nazi German, supported by America" - Israel was that all along and Hamas attack certainly brought it up to the surface so it's very difficult to no longer pay attention to.
That Israel is and has been a Nazi state from its inception - read history. I believe you've been provided with authors and books already.
Your analysis of Caitlin and her audience is weak, by the way. People who do psychological work like you said you did, often tend to subsequently overestimate their psychic powers.
I have psychic abilities, but that is not what this is about. Hamas was supposed to protect the people of Gaza from Israel, in Gaza. Hamas did just the opposite by provoking Israel to attack Gaza and then fighting to defend Hamas. I think anyone who cannot see that needs counseling. I think anyone who sees it, but doesn’t acknowledge it, will be visited by Lady Karma sooner or later, antdthey may or may not connect the dots.
I know it's about Hamas. I just wonder when you are going to shut up about it.
I do chanting with Krishna Das on utube or Spotify!! it creates warmth and compassion as well as strength through self knowledge that helps in the struggle with the vast delusions of the ruling elites.
🙏
This may piss you off but I heard in meditation this morning that I needed to pray for Israel. And yes, I’m like wha?!?!?! But on reflection, I can see that my feelings about Israel are only adding to the miasma of dis-grace that surrounds the Gaza crisis. That my lack of grace towards the “perpetrators” increases their negative energy and negative energy is what we need to stop. I KNOW it sounds too woo-woo for words but that’s what I heard in my thoughts and that’s what I’m going to do, even if I don’t mean it—until I do mean it. Can’t be any worse than being debilitated by grief as I am now. Sometimes I can hardly breathe.
You're right - something like that would indeed piss me off. I pray for Zionism to not exist. I pray for Israel in its current incarnation to not exist. I would rather pray for a million other things. In fact, I think praying for the Palestinians and praying against the Israelis sounds pretty cathartic to me. (Then again, I am an athiest - and I don't think my athiest God is likely to listen to my prayers 😃)
🤗. Ya. Exactly. And I’ve been wish/praying like you do for weeks now. But I do believe in dark matter and in dark energy, and they seem to represent principles of reality that I can’t even imagine. So I’m willing to allow as how the I Ching might have a point when it says “do not do evil the courtesy of fighting it blow for blow, for it only thinks of weapons. Instead, make energetic progress in the good.” It’s entirely possible in a universe so full of strange and confusing stuff, that GOOD is an energy that actually accomplishes what we want. Guess I’ll see when I croak! 😁😆
Matthew 5:44-45 American Standard Version (ASV)
but I say unto you, Love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you; that ye may be sons of your Father who is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust.
Ya—this is the kind of crap that makes me NOT want to pray for Israel. This is Jehovah’s book. Jehovah, the god the Israelites made up, the guy who needed the sacrifice of his own son before he could accept humanity as being is no better than he made us, the guy who decided the Jews were special and “gave” them Israel. I wouldn’t anymore follow his advice than I’d fuck a duck.
If that man’s teachings and the way he lived had been taken to heart, humanity would be very different, there would be no war in Gaza, or anywhere.
Ps—plus all the things you do. 🤗🙏
I totally agree with you! These “ leaders” are deluded and insane and raise their young in their own madness - sometimes the only hope for the country is our compassion, understanding and prayers for their enlightenment. Also many Israelies are part of the left wing kibbutz movement and trying to live more socialist lives. They love the Palestinians , have many friends and try to change the dynamics of the state. Most Israelis do not support Neten Yalu or the other far right wing crazies and have been battling with them in demos and vigils in the streets! They as well as the crazies need all our strength and compassion to Wake Up!!!
Well said!!! And really, when we pull heads out, blaming Israel is not the point. It’s AIPAC and all the goy in the US taking their money that is to blame. Israel couldn’t bomb for 10 minutes without us sending them the bombs and planes to do it with. But is there a single march on Washington about this? Does anyone pointing fingers here care to do a sit-in there? I wonder how many are even calling the Corpse in the White House? Mostly what I see here is “o I’m so confused, it’s so hard, it won’t do any good. So I’ll just blame Judaism.” Wake up indeed.