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Gavin Farrell's avatar

They're not leaders if they're not influencing power. They're just sideline intellectual pundits.

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Selina Sweet's avatar

What a narrow vision you have of power. Conventional. Using it would put all the major writers, inventors, philosophers, journalists, psychologists/psychiatrists, etc as mere “sideline intellectual pundits”. Including People like Daniel Ellsberg. Toni Morrison. Hmmm. Jesus?

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

Selina, I just can't get to the "wide vision" (as opposed to "narrow vision") you espouse. I just can't get beyond my consternation and frustration that the "fine leaders" Nader ... Mearsheimer can't get together and stand as a principled group FOR DAYS OR WEEKS on the steps of the Capitol, FORCING the bought-and-paid congresscritters and the execrable media to take note and to finally turn the tide. If that sort of concerted solidarity is not put into play, then Nader ... Mearsheimer amount to little more than the above-noted "sideline intellectual pundits." Don't you, Selina, ignore that these are different days from those of Jesus...whereby today the Internet, IT, AI et al can AND MUST BE LEVERAGED to "out and oust" those malefactors who, for the "Benjamins, Baby," want to keep the People in the dark and out of power?

Note: I'm not attacking you personally, but it seems to me that what I've written needs to be written, and re-written, and made known far and wide. Second Note: I did write, now months ago, to my decades-long hero Ralph Nader via his Internet connection and make my point to him...no response....

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JennyStokes's avatar

Why should these people 'gang together' they know more than you and me.

Several have said that if Trump gets in they are likely going to be in camps!

I am not a democratic supporter at all.

IF you want to get "Zionist" money out of the USA you are going to have to fight for it yourselves..

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

Am I naive? Doesn't the old adage "There is strength in numbers" apply at all here? We need NUMBERS of well-known public figures in front of the US Capitol Building, don't we?

Jenny, your "Why should these people 'gang together' they know more than you and me." statement doesn't make much sense to me....

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JennyStokes's avatar

....because they will be rounded up and put in camps!

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Robert H Stiver's avatar

hmmm -- perhaps that would be the "inflection point" sorely needed here to wake up the dumbed-down sheople. There are always good, passionate people willing to subject their bodies and minds to jail (or camps, or self-immolation a la Aaron Bushnell)) via arrest, sham trials if even that, and p.u.b.l.i.c.i.t.y/a public wake-up call that even the MSM can't ignore.

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JennyStokes's avatar

IF you look at comments: They are MOST certainly influencing voters.

SO what do we Gavin Farrell?

Not listen to truth tellers?

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