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Vonu's avatar

Watch the BRICS+ slowly destroy the petrodollar by taking over control of the world's petroleum by its majors joining. The current members of BRICS+ control half of the planet's petroleum reserves. It is cheaper for them to deliver product to the eastern half of the planet than to the western hemisphere, largely by pipelines. It has been easy for Russia to skirt the sanctions placed on them by the shrinking SWIFT cartel by sending their crude to India, where the largest refinery in the world converts it into value-added finished products exempt from the sanctions. Since the EU has begun refusing Russian oil, they have been sending it to Saudi Arabia, which marks it up 30% and resells it to Europe.

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Realist's avatar

Yes, that is a possible lead-in to the downfall of the US, but it will take action by the populace to finalize the end of the power elite.

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GenEarly's avatar

"All power proceeds from rifle barrels" to paraphrase Mao tse Tung.

That is the Thought Process of the Feral Coupist gov. And mine as Well. Si vis pacem, para bellum.

The Polezi and We/Me/You will have Simple Difficult Decisions in 2024. "CYA" = conduct yourselves accordingly.

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Vonu's avatar

The power elite are more likely to survive anything than anyone else, if they use their wealth to guarantee their survival. Elites have no need for patriotism or territory.

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Realist's avatar

"The power elite are more likely to survive anything than anyone else, if they use their wealth to guarantee their survival. Elites have no need for patriotism or territory."

Remember, the power elite depend more on others than any other group. No one depends on the power elite except the other power elite. When the SHTF, the power elite will be gone.

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Vonu's avatar

Why would they be gone if they control half of the world's resources?

They could hire anyone looking for work and pay them in cash.

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Realist's avatar

"Why would they be gone if they control half of the world's resources?"

Because the other 98% would say fuck you and kill them.

"They could hire anyone looking for work and pay them in cash."

You are living in a dream world. We are talking about the SHTF, not people looking for work. You don't seem to understand what a revolution is.

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Vonu's avatar

How do you kill those who live in impenetrable gated communities?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Unfortunately, history has shown us otherwise. Tell me the last revolution that worked. In fact, tell me any revolution that worked in changing the world order.

Not the Bolshevik revolution, not the French revolution, not the revolutions in South America.

I'm actually on your side - I want revolutions and I want them to work. But being a realist, I don't see in the evidence from history of them working.

you say >> "Because the other 98% would say fuck you and kill them" Unfortunately, that's now how the world works. I wish it were. I wish it was that simple. The 98% have been subjugated by the rest for a while now. I wish it somehow changes, but I'm not holding by breath...

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GenEarly's avatar

Sounding sorta MAGA there Vonu !!!

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Vonu's avatar

I voted for Trump in 2014. I didn't vote for Trump or Biden in 2020. MAGA is nothing more than a mass of quasi-conservatives that are grossly ignorant of their own and the country's history. Both of the major political parties began as anti-federalists and have morphed into fascist federalists. Jingoism sells Trump more than anything else.

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GenEarly's avatar

It's a lot easier to have even partial control of some levers of control by friendly citizens in a CW.

Trump may not be "Perfect" for many, but the lessons of 1918 in Russia haunt me when the Bolshevik Minority seized complete control from a Kerensky gov as the Populace was so fragmented.

Trump Is the current choice to keep the Bolshevik Boot off our necks, imo. Of course I can be totally Wrong, but on the other hand Voting one more time will clear my conscience for What may come our way. You may be 4 years Ahead of me!

It's all a personal decision, I agree with all most all of your view, just not with abandoning voting this year. What follows any 2024 election is probably dystopian devolution of the USA.

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Vonu's avatar

The only thing that come mind for "CW" is country western...

If voting could make any difference, it would be illegal.

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GenEarly's avatar

"Country Western" works for me if you want to be obtuse. I clearly said it was a Personal Decision and I mostly Agreed with your views.

That you must apparenty have a 100% agreement is reminiscent of a progreSSive mindset, which I hope isn't the case.

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Vonu's avatar

Your refusal to type everything out longhand makes me obtuse?

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