Caitlin says: "In the end, you get peace by pursuing peace."
Yes, but peace is not profitable. War is necessary (at least in the minds of the ruling elite and corporations) to keep the engine of neo-liberal capitalism going.
Empires don't want peace. It doesn't serve their interests. It doesn't matter how many people die in wars. If peace does not keep the steady stream of money flowing into the coffers of the elite, it serves no purpose.
Changes need to happen at a systems level - at a structural level. Systems of government and ideologies need to change to bring about such changes. And until that happens, war is what we'll always be left with.
There isn't an overpopulation problem - it is a hoarding, allocation, and management of resources problem.
Our capitalistic system of "fake resource scarcity" is the problem. To explain what I mean further -
Our entire capitalist system, in an economic sense, is based on restriction. Scarcity and inefficiency are the movers of money. The more there is of any resource, the less you can charge for it. The more problems there are, the more opportunities there are to make money.
This reality is a social disease, for people can actually gain off the misery of others and the destruction of the environment. Efficiency, abundance, and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure, for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.
This is profoundly critical to understand, for once you put this together, you begin to see that one billion people currently starving on this planet, the endless slums of the poor, and all the horrors of a culture due to poverty and pravity, are not natural phenomenon due to some natural human order or lack of earthly resources or overpopulation. They are products of the creation, perpetuation, and preservation of artificial scarcity and inefficiency.
To add to that: as populations increase, demand for resources increases - which means there is more money to be made by the elites that control most of the resources. Also, without consumers to buy all the planned-obselescence products that our capitalistic system continuously churns out, there would be no one for the elites to make money from.
Hence, I would say that the elites don't just want more poeople, but prefer overpopulation - as it allows them to increase their wealth. With this increased wealth, they can enclose themselves in their gated communities and segregate themselves from the rest of society and its problems. Overpopulation is a win-win for the elite.
Yes, completely agree. Unbounded increases in human population in an extremely short time-frame (as we have had over the last 100 years) does indeed have an adverse effect on mother earth.
That's the problem, the exponential increase in population & not actual overpopulation. The likes of the fascist members of the WEF prefer imposing Malthusian remedies such as genocidal wars, famine, [artificial] pestilence & what have you. This dangerous exponential rise can be addressed imo via economic means to remove the imperative of having large families to provide for the dotage of parents in the absence of safety nets in basic welfare. Having said that, children of the prosperous north are the ones who have the biggest footprint of all. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDB837E03BF7E16FF
I'm currently reading 'Regenisis' by George Monbiot, which is about how do you feed 10 billion people without causing the collapse of the entire eco-system. Humans take up approx 1% of the earths surface as habitat but agriculture uses 70%, with most of that being for meat production, either grazing, feed lot, penned or for growing the feed needed. And we're not even at 8.5 billion yet.
Under Neoliberalism no other way can function, so the only option left is to dismantle the capitalist system - it cannot be tweaked or corrected.
I totally agree. It is only a problem in their eyes not anyone else's. I was responding to the people who didn't understand that they want people to die. Same with the virus protocols, lockdown, and vaxx mandates. They see population as a problem
Caitlin says: "In the end, you get peace by pursuing peace."
Yes, but peace is not profitable. War is necessary (at least in the minds of the ruling elite and corporations) to keep the engine of neo-liberal capitalism going.
Empires don't want peace. It doesn't serve their interests. It doesn't matter how many people die in wars. If peace does not keep the steady stream of money flowing into the coffers of the elite, it serves no purpose.
Changes need to happen at a systems level - at a structural level. Systems of government and ideologies need to change to bring about such changes. And until that happens, war is what we'll always be left with.
Actually, they want more humans to die -- to help with the overpopulation problem
There isn't an overpopulation problem - it is a hoarding, allocation, and management of resources problem.
Our capitalistic system of "fake resource scarcity" is the problem. To explain what I mean further -
Our entire capitalist system, in an economic sense, is based on restriction. Scarcity and inefficiency are the movers of money. The more there is of any resource, the less you can charge for it. The more problems there are, the more opportunities there are to make money.
This reality is a social disease, for people can actually gain off the misery of others and the destruction of the environment. Efficiency, abundance, and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure, for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.
This is profoundly critical to understand, for once you put this together, you begin to see that one billion people currently starving on this planet, the endless slums of the poor, and all the horrors of a culture due to poverty and pravity, are not natural phenomenon due to some natural human order or lack of earthly resources or overpopulation. They are products of the creation, perpetuation, and preservation of artificial scarcity and inefficiency.
To add to that: as populations increase, demand for resources increases - which means there is more money to be made by the elites that control most of the resources. Also, without consumers to buy all the planned-obselescence products that our capitalistic system continuously churns out, there would be no one for the elites to make money from.
Hence, I would say that the elites don't just want more poeople, but prefer overpopulation - as it allows them to increase their wealth. With this increased wealth, they can enclose themselves in their gated communities and segregate themselves from the rest of society and its problems. Overpopulation is a win-win for the elite.
But a huge loss to the nonhuman inhabitants of our planet due to destruction of natural habitat, pollution, etc.
Yes, completely agree. Unbounded increases in human population in an extremely short time-frame (as we have had over the last 100 years) does indeed have an adverse effect on mother earth.
That's the problem, the exponential increase in population & not actual overpopulation. The likes of the fascist members of the WEF prefer imposing Malthusian remedies such as genocidal wars, famine, [artificial] pestilence & what have you. This dangerous exponential rise can be addressed imo via economic means to remove the imperative of having large families to provide for the dotage of parents in the absence of safety nets in basic welfare. Having said that, children of the prosperous north are the ones who have the biggest footprint of all. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDB837E03BF7E16FF
Humans are like a plague of locusts upon the earth. Free birth control for all who want it.
I'm currently reading 'Regenisis' by George Monbiot, which is about how do you feed 10 billion people without causing the collapse of the entire eco-system. Humans take up approx 1% of the earths surface as habitat but agriculture uses 70%, with most of that being for meat production, either grazing, feed lot, penned or for growing the feed needed. And we're not even at 8.5 billion yet.
Under Neoliberalism no other way can function, so the only option left is to dismantle the capitalist system - it cannot be tweaked or corrected.
I totally agree. It is only a problem in their eyes not anyone else's. I was responding to the people who didn't understand that they want people to die. Same with the virus protocols, lockdown, and vaxx mandates. They see population as a problem
I agreed at least a large subset do, the bunker builders and most of CONgress. Neutrons are the most effective way, the real estate weapon.