"That is as ABSURD as saying that 'Israel are the GOOD guys and Palestinians are the BAD guys""
Yes, that kind statement sure would be absurd. Except I didn't say anyone was "BAD" here -- except the psychopaths. You know, as in the people we're both complaining about? Geez, I tried to start out agreeing with you! Problem is, while psychopaths corrupt a capitalist state eventually (decades, or at least a handful of years), they corrupt Marxists almost instantly, or before, power is achieved.
But of course, sure, let's shift the blame for that corruption from psychopathy to capitalism. That's what the psychopaths *who rise up in* Marxist organizations want (just as psychopathic capitalists rise to the top, and have their own blame games), because IRL, in a declared Marxists state, they sure as hell aren't gonna have any actual democracy. But let's just keep going in denial about it, and blame instead all of the capitalist-states' instances of democracy-denial. And people keep falling for their BS, despite now a century of "Oopsies!". Psychopaths LOVE this divide-and-conquer.
"... if you had even a remote inkling of what Marxism is (or what left and right mean or even what Capitalism is) ... not only do you NOT understand basic political terms, but you actively refuse to LEARN and EDUCATE yourself. "
LOL, yeah, I know nothing about left, right, capitalism, and Marxism. Nothing at all! Sure, I readily acknowledge I must have plenty of aspects of these things I don't know, or am in error about. I'm human, and so are you. But we don't get very far here, do we?
Because, in far too many cases, you have yet to demonstrate *in your own words* SPECIFICALLY what is problematic, so I/we can sink our teeth into it. You have these, apparently, fuzzy ideas that you are, apparently, unable to condense adequately for this public forum. So you do what we called in grad school "hand waving" the discussion, off stage, where it is no longer an annoyance. "It's in the literature!" a professor of mine like to joke, about people who hadn't fully or properly digested what they memorized prior to regurgitation, and so all they talk about is the pointers. It's easier to remember names and titles than to understand if the pointer's referent is coherent and true. Because once you *sufficiently* understand the referent, you should be able to condense it to nearly any smaller size. THAT'S what knowing something is (in the common, traditional sense). And here, you are commonly refusing to do that.
To wit: You attack nothing specific in my previous post. It's as if it just went boing off your head because you couldn't handle it. Talk about projection of cognitive dissonance! How about we talk about just one little piece? Say, human proclivity to control objects?
(I have my education, plenty of both *formal*, as you harp on and on about, and life experience. That's all I'm going to say on that at this point until you step up to the plate. )
"You seem to be so fearful of the cognitive dissonance that this may cause you that you will do ALMOST ANYTHING ... to avoid it."
Hmmm... That cognitive dissonance can just as easily apply to, for example, your ignoring my accusations about Marxism-in-the-field.
" (including arguing with your OWN definitions of terms)"
Again -- identify IN YOUR OWN WORDS the problems you find. Don't give me a damn hour-long video to watch. No, it most often does NOT take that long to understand a root premise.
"That is as ABSURD as saying that 'Israel are the GOOD guys and Palestinians are the BAD guys""
Yes, that kind statement sure would be absurd. Except I didn't say anyone was "BAD" here -- except the psychopaths. You know, as in the people we're both complaining about? Geez, I tried to start out agreeing with you! Problem is, while psychopaths corrupt a capitalist state eventually (decades, or at least a handful of years), they corrupt Marxists almost instantly, or before, power is achieved.
But of course, sure, let's shift the blame for that corruption from psychopathy to capitalism. That's what the psychopaths *who rise up in* Marxist organizations want (just as psychopathic capitalists rise to the top, and have their own blame games), because IRL, in a declared Marxists state, they sure as hell aren't gonna have any actual democracy. But let's just keep going in denial about it, and blame instead all of the capitalist-states' instances of democracy-denial. And people keep falling for their BS, despite now a century of "Oopsies!". Psychopaths LOVE this divide-and-conquer.
"... if you had even a remote inkling of what Marxism is (or what left and right mean or even what Capitalism is) ... not only do you NOT understand basic political terms, but you actively refuse to LEARN and EDUCATE yourself. "
LOL, yeah, I know nothing about left, right, capitalism, and Marxism. Nothing at all! Sure, I readily acknowledge I must have plenty of aspects of these things I don't know, or am in error about. I'm human, and so are you. But we don't get very far here, do we?
Because, in far too many cases, you have yet to demonstrate *in your own words* SPECIFICALLY what is problematic, so I/we can sink our teeth into it. You have these, apparently, fuzzy ideas that you are, apparently, unable to condense adequately for this public forum. So you do what we called in grad school "hand waving" the discussion, off stage, where it is no longer an annoyance. "It's in the literature!" a professor of mine like to joke, about people who hadn't fully or properly digested what they memorized prior to regurgitation, and so all they talk about is the pointers. It's easier to remember names and titles than to understand if the pointer's referent is coherent and true. Because once you *sufficiently* understand the referent, you should be able to condense it to nearly any smaller size. THAT'S what knowing something is (in the common, traditional sense). And here, you are commonly refusing to do that.
To wit: You attack nothing specific in my previous post. It's as if it just went boing off your head because you couldn't handle it. Talk about projection of cognitive dissonance! How about we talk about just one little piece? Say, human proclivity to control objects?
(I have my education, plenty of both *formal*, as you harp on and on about, and life experience. That's all I'm going to say on that at this point until you step up to the plate. )
"You seem to be so fearful of the cognitive dissonance that this may cause you that you will do ALMOST ANYTHING ... to avoid it."
Hmmm... That cognitive dissonance can just as easily apply to, for example, your ignoring my accusations about Marxism-in-the-field.
" (including arguing with your OWN definitions of terms)"
Again -- identify IN YOUR OWN WORDS the problems you find. Don't give me a damn hour-long video to watch. No, it most often does NOT take that long to understand a root premise.
Anti-Hip, I guess you didn’t understand my comment above - I’M NOT INTERESTED in conversing with someone (LIKE YOU) that -
(1) Is not interested in educating themselves or learning
(2) Wishes to redefine terms to suit their own needs instead of understanding what they really mean
(3) Has problems with critical thinking due to ideological indoctrination over a number of years
(4) Does not converse in good faith
So, NO - I am not going to waste my time conversing with you further (now or later). Goodbye and good luck to you.