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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Yes, yes, yes, BUT, they're almost-unimaginably-wealthy lunatics, & everything they do amounts to pumping hard-earned money out of the pockets of the proles & into their pockets. (THEY like that, if you/we don't.)

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Meanwhile, Congress COULD do nice stuff, IF it wanted to. But it doesn't, because they pay themselves enough to skate around any problems they legislate for the hoi polloi--almost as if they understand what the REAL cost-of-living is--while enabling the insanely-wealthy-lunatics to rampage unhindered (and hog the limelights--diverting attention from themselves). IMHO the real Q is, why should Congress be allowed to possess one cent more than their poorest constituent? Allowing that amounts to rewarding Congress for its gross incompetence, at the very least. It might be difficult for us to enforce Congress being forced to get paid ONLY Federal minimum wage, only for hours for which they punch a time-clock, w/ zero bennies which everyone else doesn't automatically get (even doing that, they'd still be far better off than prison labor), but IMHO we could publically shame them into dishing out a UBI equal to what they pay themselves. After all, what makes THEM so G*d-d*mn superior?

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denise ward's avatar

What makes them superior is us. You obey their laws don't you? You go to the trouble of getting a driver's license, a passport, registration, etc? That's what gives them power. And the money everyone keeps forking out to them, whatever they demand, people do.

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

And most importantly of all, we keep voting theses corporate whores into positions of power and responsibility.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

PROVE IT. PROVE that the corporate whores actually got the most votes--particularly in the primaries. (Good luck w/ that.)

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Are you suggesting voting figure manipulation or corruption? It would not surprise me and sorry to say it would be a pleasant surprise, because since 2016 my feeling has been has been increasingly that large sections of the voting public knowingly vote for harm to be inflicted on others.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

YES--electronic vote-flipping has been going on since 2000, at least--it's what the computers ARE FOR, & WHY the law doesn't allow the public, not even ELECTIONS OFFICIALS, to scrutinize the software those computers run on. Read BLACK BOX VOTING.

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Courageous Lion's avatar

Not "we". The last time I voted was for Ron Paul. And before that it was 20 years. Since that it's been another 17. The only thing I ever vote for is against any kind of law or tax that I see is a detriment to my finances or freedom. PERIOD. I wouldn't vote for myself because I know I'd get a puffed up ego which goes with the territory of being a voted in "leader". People have asked me why I don't run for "office". And I said because there shouldn't be an office to run for.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

SO...when we stop paying all taxes, don't drive or go abroad, we're all living on the sidewalk & never buy anything to which a sales tax is affixed, Congress will stop having power?

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Courageous Lion's avatar

They have all the ENFORCERS behind them. That's what makes them superior to us. We aren't willing to aim small miss small at the ENFORCERS.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

...whom WE pay.

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Susan T's avatar

they don't care where they get the money, from us, from the air, who knows. Just as long as they have it and the power they (and too many of us) have decided it gives them.

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denise ward's avatar

The "proles" keep giving it to them though. Do you pay taxes? Interest? Take out loans from banks?

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Jennifer Akdemir's avatar

Libertarianism only helps the richest, Denise.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Our rulers (whether we like it or not) don't need our money anyway, as they BORROW all the $$$$ they need when there's a revenue shortfall. Hence the Nat'l Debt. Heck, our currency is debt. Banks write down numbers in their ledgers, & we spend it into existence, & pay it back w/ interest, with our wildly-regressive tax dollars. It doesn't HAVE TO be that way--the Constitution allows Congress to create all the $$$$$ it wants, debt-free, w/out having to tax anyone. But it doesn't do that--possibly because banksters prefer getting paid back W/ INTEREST for money they created out of thin air.

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