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Casper's avatar

Jullian Assange only made me realize how much higher moral standard the US has over eastern countries.

Killing a dozen of civilians is a stain on the millitary? How fucking kind the Americans are for such a case to become a national scandal? In the east, the minimum threshold for a massacre to even leave a record in the history is probabaly 10,000. For a easterner, the Americans are almost too humane to be outraged by merely a dozen deaths.

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samghjk's avatar

They are literally killing thousands upon thousands just now with just covid and vaccines alone (not to mention many other things) around the globe and could care less. No Eastern dictator can beat that record. Killing is not just when you run around with a gun or throw bombs

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Casper's avatar

"No Eastern dictator can beat that record"

How so? The Taiping rebellion war in China killed 70 million, which is comparable to the world wars.

BTW covid is made in china.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

The Taiping rebellion was a civil war that killed TWENTY million, not 70. We committed genocide and enslaved more than that.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Approximately one in ten died in the US civil war. Approximately one in twenty died in the Taiping war.

For the record all war is evil. May we evolve!

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Casper's avatar

"We committed genocide and enslaved more than that."

Factually wrong. No country has ever killed more people than China, this is an indisputable statistical fact.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Factually correct. More than twenty million indigenous people killed and Africans enslaved. More have died in China from war and famine in total numbers because their population is so much larger.

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Casper's avatar

"More than twenty million"

That's still a small number in China. There are countless wars in china that killed more than 20 million.

"More have died in China from war and famine in total numbers because their population is so much larger"

Still doesn't change the fact that China murdered more people than any other country on earth.

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Feral Finster's avatar

You are trying to change the subject.

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ChazLB's avatar

Covid development was made by the usa and researched and perfected in a Chinese lab in a joint venture...But you won't add that truth in because it's disrupting to your propaganda disseminating.

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samghjk's avatar

Who cares about the geographic location. Could be anywhere. It wasn't Chinese who were chasing me with the death shot threatening to deprive me of my livelihood

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pepa65's avatar

The "higher" the moral standards, the stronger the hypocrisy must be.

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Casper's avatar

Technically true, only someone who have moral senses can be a hypocrite. Hypocrisy is the act of normal human beings.

A hypocrite is a human being with proper moral senses, he try to hide his wrong doings because he know what he did was wrong.

A psychopath would never be a hypocrite because he does not have moral senses therefore feels no need to hide his wrongdoings.

The west are often hypocrites, but the east are the psychopaths, the former is infinitely superior to the later.

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jamenta's avatar

You pretend civilization is ok even when it kills innocents. As if a civilization could never exist without killing a few innocents - so it's ok the US does it. That morality is "proportional". You are making the lesser of two evils argument, but the lesser of two evils is STILL evil.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

And in this case - not "lesser" but primary.. ;-))

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jamenta's avatar

Agreed. Why so many world powers are now abandoning US hegemony. The US has become a hollow shell of hypocrisy, run by corporate billionaire assholes who have bought the government meant to run the country free of their sociopathic greed.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

EXACTLY!

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Boris Petrov's avatar

Our Casper-troll is at work again... ;-))

A bit of history about US War party – by Dave Lindorff - Aug 4, 2020 ( ThisCantBeHappening.net )

Unsung Heroes of Los Alamos: Rethinking Manhattan Project Spies and the Cold War

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/04/unsung-heroes-of-los-alamos-rethinking-manhattan-project-spies-and-the-cold-war/

• Plans for 300 nuclear bombs on USSR, with minimum 15-20M dead (these estimates were before “nuclear winter” effect was identified)

• US spies are unsung heroes that prevented another US crime of our millennia

And: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/09/remembering-ted-hall-and-klaus-fuchs/

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ChazLB's avatar

Casper the friendly troll here thinks all those other countries the west lie about and demonize to manipulate their own public are more "evil" than the stealth fascist war criminal regime of Meruka is.

One wonder if this tool is in on the scam or just that fμcking stupid.

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ChazLB's avatar

You have such a psychopaths way with words.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

In the war on terror alone in the past twenty years the US has killed 6 million people.

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Casper's avatar

Nah, very few people are actually killed by the US, otherwise the Assange leak wouldn't be an international outrage.

Most of them are killed by rebels and terrorists fighting each other, and most of them are supported by Russia and China. It is far more accurate to say that Russia and china has killed 6 million people in the war on terror alone in the past 20 years.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Killed by US troops and bombs. So easy to make your empire propagandistic claims without evidence. If we start adding all the death and destruction caused by right-wing dictatorships we trained and installed the misery in the third world raises the death count many times over.

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Casper's avatar

"Killed by US troops and bombs. "

Source? Your imagination?

"death and destruction caused by right-wing dictatorships we trained and installed"

Nah, trained and installed by their respective countrymen. Third worlders are human beings with human agency too, not a bunch of puppets or animals who can only mechanically react to stimulations from the US.

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Carol Diane Bevis's avatar

Three sources: the costs of war project and byline times and I forget the UK source.

If we bribe, train (School of the Americas for example) and install dictators we are responsible. There are always low lifes in every country and we know how to find them. I ask you for evidence. You give none. I will no longer respond to your comments.

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Casper's avatar

The costs of war project and other sources you cited say a certain amount of people died in this period of time, never have they said they were killed by the US military.

Casualties caused by the US military are well documented and the numbers are incredibly low. The 6 million (if we take that number) are mostly caused by rebels, terrorists and all kinds of civil unrests.

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