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Margaret Stringer's avatar

I was born and raised in the Soviet sphere of influence. West of Ukraine. I thought that Soviet propaganda had no equal - until I saw American propaganda. Nothing on this planet compares to that. American propaganda made me move to America, the land of milk and honey, where there was no crime, no racism, and the Nazis were hated.

Right.

If I knew then what I know now, I'd be a New Zealander today.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

The NZ covid tyranny propaganda spell has been even more effective there than the US. Not sure that's the best comparison.

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jlalbrecht's avatar

My wife was born and raised in former Czechoslovakia. All her family still lives in Czechia. She grew up learning that the "Amis" were going to come over the border and kill them all. She at least was taught to shoot and throw grenades. We just learned to sing, "duck and cover." We laugh at how similar the propaganda was when we were kids, just opposite.

After she'd been to the states a few times and gotten to know America better she also understands that US propaganda has no equivalent.

I've been to New Zealand, although it was a long time ago now. Beautiful what I saw of the country. I was only on the north island.

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J M Hatch's avatar

Have you lived in NZ? I have, and hoo boy, is that place full of racists. Better than USA, or Canada and it's Ukranian Nazi love affair, but not by much.

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Margaret Stringer's avatar

I haven't. But they have health care, and we don't. So, I could isolate myself (I'm a born hermit) somewhere way out there, and not be terrified of medical bills if something happens.

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J M Hatch's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_New_Zealand It was being crapified when I lived there, and like all things under neo-liberal rule it's only gotten worse.

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jlalbrecht's avatar

The animosity between the elves and the dwarves has some history, no doubt, but it is certainly nothing compared to US. If you stick to the central west of Eriador (particularly around the Shire) you'll find it is pretty much a "live and let live" kind of atmosphere. ;-)

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