Few, if any, Western democracies have a mainstream newspaper and publisher with the courage of Ha'aretz and Amos Schocken. I suspect Israel is farther down the list of most propagandized than you realize.
Maybe... which other countries do you think are more propagandized than Israel (other than the US) ? From observing the attitudes of local Israelis, they seem to be indoctrinated/propagandized from birth about their "Zionist supremacy".
How about the UK? They. or at least their government/media are as full throated in their support of the genocide in Gaza as the US. And their independent journalists have no constitutional right to free speech to protect them. France? Germany? I admit that it's a pretty tight race.
None of them come close to the US (as evidenced by the constant vetoes of the US in the UN). Also in terms of arms, military, etc. no one supports Israel as much as the US.
Wait, I thought we were talking about most propagandized, not most supportive (as governments, not as populations) of Israel?
I thought about it some more and realized I'm not really in a position to evaluate the level of propaganda in other countries. I mean, based on what I've read, the people of Russia, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. etc. etc. are all subject to pervasive propaganda. But the truth is, I don't know, and can't unless I spend significant amounts of time there.
But I will stick with the UK as being almost as heavily propagandized as the US. Anti-Israeli genocide rhetoric has been, and continues to be, severely punished in the UK. e.g. the case of Richard Medhurst, Sara Wilkerson, Asta Winstanley are just the better known names victimized by the legal system for pro-Palestinian sentiments.
And Britain has no equivalent of the 1st amendment, so the heavily pro-Zionist corporate media has free reign to propagandize on behalf of Israel. There is no British (or American) corporate media outlet that could get away with saying what Ha'aretz in Israel regularly reports about the ongoing genocide.
>>"I thought about it some more and realized I'm not really in a position to evaluate the level of propaganda in other countries."
foceOfHabit, I commend you for that statement - that shows a level of intellectual maturity that is rare - thank you.
Similarly, like you - I can only make an evaluation (on most propagandized population) based on what information is available to me and my experiences - hence it is a subjective opinion.
At the end of the day, regardless of which country one is in, the 1% (or power elite) always have a need to propagandize the 99% - so as to remain in the 1% and maintain the status quo. Countries with a history of imperialism and colonialism (mostly Western countries) seem to have a higher level of propaganda due to the need to maintain their hegemony/control over larger empires.
🎯 (and after that, Israel is the second most propagandized)
Yes, but they’re indoctrinated into a death cult as well.
Few, if any, Western democracies have a mainstream newspaper and publisher with the courage of Ha'aretz and Amos Schocken. I suspect Israel is farther down the list of most propagandized than you realize.
Maybe... which other countries do you think are more propagandized than Israel (other than the US) ? From observing the attitudes of local Israelis, they seem to be indoctrinated/propagandized from birth about their "Zionist supremacy".
How about the UK? They. or at least their government/media are as full throated in their support of the genocide in Gaza as the US. And their independent journalists have no constitutional right to free speech to protect them. France? Germany? I admit that it's a pretty tight race.
None of them come close to the US (as evidenced by the constant vetoes of the US in the UN). Also in terms of arms, military, etc. no one supports Israel as much as the US.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/26/how-the-us-has-used-its-veto-power-at-the-un-in-support-of-israel
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/19/a-history-of-the-us-blocking-un-resolutions-against-israel
Wait, I thought we were talking about most propagandized, not most supportive (as governments, not as populations) of Israel?
I thought about it some more and realized I'm not really in a position to evaluate the level of propaganda in other countries. I mean, based on what I've read, the people of Russia, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. etc. etc. are all subject to pervasive propaganda. But the truth is, I don't know, and can't unless I spend significant amounts of time there.
But I will stick with the UK as being almost as heavily propagandized as the US. Anti-Israeli genocide rhetoric has been, and continues to be, severely punished in the UK. e.g. the case of Richard Medhurst, Sara Wilkerson, Asta Winstanley are just the better known names victimized by the legal system for pro-Palestinian sentiments.
And Britain has no equivalent of the 1st amendment, so the heavily pro-Zionist corporate media has free reign to propagandize on behalf of Israel. There is no British (or American) corporate media outlet that could get away with saying what Ha'aretz in Israel regularly reports about the ongoing genocide.
>>"I thought about it some more and realized I'm not really in a position to evaluate the level of propaganda in other countries."
foceOfHabit, I commend you for that statement - that shows a level of intellectual maturity that is rare - thank you.
Similarly, like you - I can only make an evaluation (on most propagandized population) based on what information is available to me and my experiences - hence it is a subjective opinion.
At the end of the day, regardless of which country one is in, the 1% (or power elite) always have a need to propagandize the 99% - so as to remain in the 1% and maintain the status quo. Countries with a history of imperialism and colonialism (mostly Western countries) seem to have a higher level of propaganda due to the need to maintain their hegemony/control over larger empires.