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Starry Gordon's avatar

Actually, I find the cluster-bomb decision problematical from the point of view of our native psychopaths as these have been announced or portrayed in their kept media As you may recall, the earlier motivation for provoking a war with Russia was to destabilize and possibly break up Russia and possibly depose Putin, opening Russia as in the 90's to Western intervention and exploitation. Part of that exploitation was posited for the territory of Ukraine as an agricultural and mineral resource. Littering the territory of Ukraine with cluster bombs is a scorched-earth tactic which assumes that the territory is at least temporarily lost and now must be denied to the enemy, as well as one's own forces. Significant conclusions could be drawn from this evidence, not only about the immediate war but (for instance) the condition of the combatants, which may be nearing an inflection point.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I would say that, like using depleted uranium, the hawks do not care about the consequences for Ukrainians, whether they win or lose.

What matters only is that their enemies suffer.

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Beli Tsari's avatar

Sadism & insane, atavistic blood-lust is status quo, for US duopoly kleptocrat draft-dodger yuppies. The COOL thing, here: slavering celebrity & Learjet Liberals who quite literally squeal for evil Rooski BLOOD (Russian natural gas is not JUST cheap, but WAY less likely to have ALREADY put us into run-away AGW: where methane percolates up from where permafrost used to be!) Biden was installed to DO this (& stop M4A) so 500K murdered Ukrainians is a TINY portion of the death toll. It's our kids & grandchildren who will die, along with poor non-Aryan kids in a radioactive wasteland, formerly bread-basket to the world? We're the Nazis, now!

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/07/kakhovka-dam-breach-in-ukraine-caused-economic-agricultural-and-ecological-devastation-that-will-last-for-years.html

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Feral Finster's avatar

From the point of view of a sociopath, everything they do is completely rational.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

The basic principle, enunciated in legend by certain sports figures, is "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing."

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jamenta's avatar

Problem is war is not sports. In sports - losers get to play another game - go for a beer after the game. In war, losers lose their limbs, their eyes, and many their lives. And that's it. There is nothing after. You're fucking gone.

But the warpigs in DC treat it like a sport. Ukrainian human fodder to push their ideological faith in some kind of "freedom of democracy" that does not actually exist in the US.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

This is a sad and very real problem which overflows into the populace. I have said similar words to people in regards to the "horrors of war" and loss of lives (and limbs as you say) and get a blank look! I can't understand it. I as I have gotten older, now feel pain and suffering from both the injustice and suffering done by others who I do not know but I think it is an inner connection to people and planet that makes me feel their pain? How anyone can just look the other way when someone is suffering or in the case of war just ho hum it while so many die! This is the very reason why I detest the filth that claim to be doing this for our/American interest and democracy. They are the worst sort of creature that should not be allowed on this planet.

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