As much as I respect your views, Caitlin, I disagree with the concept that any person is a "piece of shit." All life is valuable, and that it's possible to disagree, while still continuing to recognize our common humanity. That failure has led us to our current situation. Recognition is the only thing that has a chance to save our species from extinction.
Plenty of piece of shit humans. Doesn’t mean they don’t have the capacity to evolve into something other than that.
One of the big reasons liberals have contributed to the current clusterf*ck is a complete confusion when it comes to tolerance and truth telling, and which is more important.
Agree and at this moment in time it is very important that we hold on to that Hope - we need to believe in the best of humanity right now and hold it steady. Yes there bad actors "Hell is empty and all the devil's are here" as Shakespeare once said, that doesn't we all have to lose our shit and behave and speak like ignorant teenagers. We need to find the middle ground. We have no idea what just happened.
There is no "middle ground" with Nazis, Zionists, and other pathological ideologies and their psychopathic leaders. The liberals preach this "middle ground" stuff all the time and it has always led to a brutal, authoritarian take-over. Mostly the liberals are fairly well-off and don't want their comfort disturbed and have the mistaken believe that the psychopaths will leave them alone if they apologize on their behalf.
What happened is, more than likely, a false flag event meant to justify a leap forward for fascism. If it was a real leftist intervention, as Caitlin said, no tears here, I'll reserve them for the truly innocent people of Gaza.
You have no clue what it was Ron - Zero. And personally I’m sick of labels. A man was murdered. I’ve lived in many countries and know people from all walks of life, what leads to authortarian takeovers is ignorance - that is why they go after universities, Lawyers, Doctors et Quit generalizing about other people and maybe start trying to get to know them - even the ones you disagree with.
I don't know what it was, that's why I said "more than likely". You may be sick of labels and if that's a comfort to your liberal proclivities, all well for you. But what do you call the person, the nation, the ideology that comes to shred or starve your child. What do you call the person who says elementary school children are necessary sacrifices to protect the "God given" right to bear arms, when sick teenager comes to your child's school? What do you call someone who encourages people to take up arms against your transgender child? If you won't "label" them, how do you deal with them?
good point - on a bad day i would definitely call him a monster. And I’m definitely a liberal but not the kind you think. I would just ask that in the wake of a man being murdered, a man who was extreme in his point of view. Maybe we should soften just a little and remember that Charlie Kirke was ignorant, he dropped out of college, he had an extreme point of view which he believed in. He could have changed and imagine his energy if it got behind something good. There is always a chance for redemption - even in the monsters. He has children.
So, is that reason to cheer his death? What of the millions who followed him, agreed with him, shall we cheer for their deaths also? Or perhaps might those who disagree with whatever views Kirk had, work harder and share their own better arguments. Or shall we simply give up on each other because of how we happen to see the world through our particular pinhole
>>"I disagree with the concept that any person is a "piece of shit.""
SHAME ON YOU, Joy in HK. You should do your research on someone before you opine (and virtue signal).
The idea that he championed free speech and liberty is absurd. He was an enemy of both.
Kirk, who was a cheerleader for the cult of Trump, embodied the hypermasculinity that is at the core of fascist movements. This was perhaps his primary attraction to youth, especially white men. He claimed there is “a war on men,” fetishized guns and sold Trump to his followers as a man’s man.
Kirk was a poster child for our emergent Christian Fascism. He peddled the Great Replacement Theory, which claims liberals or “globalists” allow immigrants of color into the country in order to replace whites, distorting immigration trends into conspiracy. He was Islamophobic, tweeting “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America,” and that it is “not compatible with western civilization.”
He demanded we roll back the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and disparaged civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King. He was demeaning towards Black people, “If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman...is she there because of affirmative action?” He said “prowling Blacks” are targeting white people “for fun.” He blamed Black Lives Matter for “destroying the fabric of our society."
Kirk insisted the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. He founded Professor Watchlist and School Board Watchlist to purge professors and teachers with what he called “radical leftist” agendas. He advocated televised public executions which he insisted should be mandatory viewing for children.
And this does not even cover 10% of the PURE EVIL that was Charlie Kirk. He was no better than the likes of Netanyahu or Trump.
Psychopaths and sociopaths should NOT be elevated to the level of 'normal' human beings - that would be an INSULT to ALL normal human beings.
As much as I respect your views, Caitlin, I disagree with the concept that any person is a "piece of shit." All life is valuable, and that it's possible to disagree, while still continuing to recognize our common humanity. That failure has led us to our current situation. Recognition is the only thing that has a chance to save our species from extinction.
Plenty of piece of shit humans. Doesn’t mean they don’t have the capacity to evolve into something other than that.
One of the big reasons liberals have contributed to the current clusterf*ck is a complete confusion when it comes to tolerance and truth telling, and which is more important.
Agree and at this moment in time it is very important that we hold on to that Hope - we need to believe in the best of humanity right now and hold it steady. Yes there bad actors "Hell is empty and all the devil's are here" as Shakespeare once said, that doesn't we all have to lose our shit and behave and speak like ignorant teenagers. We need to find the middle ground. We have no idea what just happened.
There is no "middle ground" with Nazis, Zionists, and other pathological ideologies and their psychopathic leaders. The liberals preach this "middle ground" stuff all the time and it has always led to a brutal, authoritarian take-over. Mostly the liberals are fairly well-off and don't want their comfort disturbed and have the mistaken believe that the psychopaths will leave them alone if they apologize on their behalf.
What happened is, more than likely, a false flag event meant to justify a leap forward for fascism. If it was a real leftist intervention, as Caitlin said, no tears here, I'll reserve them for the truly innocent people of Gaza.
You have no clue what it was Ron - Zero. And personally I’m sick of labels. A man was murdered. I’ve lived in many countries and know people from all walks of life, what leads to authortarian takeovers is ignorance - that is why they go after universities, Lawyers, Doctors et Quit generalizing about other people and maybe start trying to get to know them - even the ones you disagree with.
I don't know what it was, that's why I said "more than likely". You may be sick of labels and if that's a comfort to your liberal proclivities, all well for you. But what do you call the person, the nation, the ideology that comes to shred or starve your child. What do you call the person who says elementary school children are necessary sacrifices to protect the "God given" right to bear arms, when sick teenager comes to your child's school? What do you call someone who encourages people to take up arms against your transgender child? If you won't "label" them, how do you deal with them?
good point - on a bad day i would definitely call him a monster. And I’m definitely a liberal but not the kind you think. I would just ask that in the wake of a man being murdered, a man who was extreme in his point of view. Maybe we should soften just a little and remember that Charlie Kirke was ignorant, he dropped out of college, he had an extreme point of view which he believed in. He could have changed and imagine his energy if it got behind something good. There is always a chance for redemption - even in the monsters. He has children.
He literally spent his life telling you other people were pieces of shit.
So, is that reason to cheer his death? What of the millions who followed him, agreed with him, shall we cheer for their deaths also? Or perhaps might those who disagree with whatever views Kirk had, work harder and share their own better arguments. Or shall we simply give up on each other because of how we happen to see the world through our particular pinhole
as someone who is a piece of shit, I can confirm that guy was definitely an enormous log of poop and there's nothing wrong acknowledging it
Egyptians had it as their cosmology: a scarab beetle rolling a ball of dung, representing the universe.
Embrace being shit. Now focus on the task at hand. Roll with it.
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>>"I disagree with the concept that any person is a "piece of shit.""
SHAME ON YOU, Joy in HK. You should do your research on someone before you opine (and virtue signal).
The idea that he championed free speech and liberty is absurd. He was an enemy of both.
Kirk, who was a cheerleader for the cult of Trump, embodied the hypermasculinity that is at the core of fascist movements. This was perhaps his primary attraction to youth, especially white men. He claimed there is “a war on men,” fetishized guns and sold Trump to his followers as a man’s man.
Kirk was a poster child for our emergent Christian Fascism. He peddled the Great Replacement Theory, which claims liberals or “globalists” allow immigrants of color into the country in order to replace whites, distorting immigration trends into conspiracy. He was Islamophobic, tweeting “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America,” and that it is “not compatible with western civilization.”
He demanded we roll back the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and disparaged civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King. He was demeaning towards Black people, “If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman...is she there because of affirmative action?” He said “prowling Blacks” are targeting white people “for fun.” He blamed Black Lives Matter for “destroying the fabric of our society."
Kirk insisted the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. He founded Professor Watchlist and School Board Watchlist to purge professors and teachers with what he called “radical leftist” agendas. He advocated televised public executions which he insisted should be mandatory viewing for children.
And this does not even cover 10% of the PURE EVIL that was Charlie Kirk. He was no better than the likes of Netanyahu or Trump.
Psychopaths and sociopaths should NOT be elevated to the level of 'normal' human beings - that would be an INSULT to ALL normal human beings.