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Vee's avatar

Wow, this piece is a great example of how politics can make people say and do inhumane things. You don't know this man personally, but you are keen to call him a "piece of shit" because he bought into the Zionists propaganda that Israel is defending itself and not committing genocide. Many people buy into this propaganda, even people on the left, but that doesn't make them turds.

These are real human beings just like the real human beings in Palestine being murdered. I shouldn't have to say this, but hate begets hate. Kirk left behind a loving and caring family and I am sure his little children didn't think that he was a piece of shit of a human being because of his political views.

I know many kind people that support Israel because they buy into this bullshit. What about you Caitlin? Do you buy into the bullshit that the covid pandemic was real? As bad as the genocide in Palestine is, what's worse is the complete all out war on humanity that was launched with the roll out of these death shots.

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sera's avatar

even if he wasn't spouting zio talking points, have you not heard of literally any other opinion he's had?? most importantly what he's said about kids in relation to the 2nd ammendment??? anyone who says shit like that about literal children is a piece of shit and idk why you have the time to waste defending a dead man who left behind really nothing good throughout the entirety of his pathetic, hate-filled career.

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Vee's avatar

Please enlighten me. What did he say about kids in relation to the second amendment? Please also provide some quotes and references that clearly show that this man was hateful.

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AnF's avatar

Begone troll

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Vee's avatar

Good chat. I love how people make unsubstantiated claims to justify their stance.

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Nancy's avatar

Are you going to go through life insisting other people do your work? Are you really that lazy and incompetent? I have neither the interest nor the responsibility to educate, much less prove anything to you. Especially when you resist educating yourself. In addition, you’re dishonest, having misrepresented what’s been stated.

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Vee's avatar

How exactly am I being dishonest Nancy? You could have provided me with at least one or two links with all the time you have spent in bothering to respond to me with your unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks.

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Tom's avatar

Charlie Kirk, in 2023, ironically said: "It's worth to have, unfortunately, some gun deaths every year, because at least we can keep the second amendment"

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Sammy's avatar

He was a piece of shit !

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Vee's avatar

Based on what exactly?

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martin's avatar

the reactions of the other certified pieces of shit is a pretty good indicator.

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AnF's avatar

He openly advocated for the death and rape of people like me.

So fuck off

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Vee's avatar

Links and references please.

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AnF's avatar

If you weren't a bot you'd already know.

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gypsy33's avatar

Vee, ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTIN’ ME?

In one post he stated the names of several prominent Black women, claiming they ONLY achieved their positions because of Affirmative Action and otherwise hadn’t the “brains” to accomplish what they did.

Who needs societal members like that? 🤬

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Vee's avatar

Please provide links and references.

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Nancy's avatar

I love it when posters demand that others prove things to them that are all over the web. Do your own research before you cast doubts about accuracy. We all have a responsibility to educate ourselves. The same can be said about Gaza.

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gypsy33's avatar

They’re real pieces of work Nancy, ain’t they just? How in hell am I supposed to remember where/when I read that comment attributed to Kirk?

Once in a discussion about slavery, some ass asked me to provide a “link”…my replywas that I’ve literally read hundreds of real, actual BOOKS on the US Civil War and related subjects such as slavery.

People 🙄

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Nancy's avatar

I agree, gypsy. I was once challenged by another commenter on a NYT’s article about some Jewish students feeling “uncomfortable” during the anti-genocide protests at Columbia by pointing point

out that the only students to have actually have been physically assaulted during the protests were pro-Palestinian. I repeated what I had read in a number of articles about several students having been hospitalized after being sprayed at close range with a chemical used in war by a number of IDF members who were also students at the university. The commenter accused me of making it up and said she wouldn’t believe it without citations. I responded that I had first seen the story reported on the front page of the NYT, the very paper in which we were commenting.

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Vee's avatar

I'm not the one cheering on the death of another human being.

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Nancy's avatar

I didn’t say you did. (That’s a different and deflecting point). I’m challenging you to educate yourself about information you questioned. It’s your responsibility.

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Tom's avatar

"you wanna talk about mass shootings? Oh you mean all those colored people that kill each other ;p?" - Charlie Kirk ca. 2023

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Vee's avatar

I have and there isn't anything that I have stumbled on that has convinced me that he was an inherently hateful person, so here I am asking for some references. So far I have received 0 links.

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gypsy33's avatar

I ain’t your fuckin’ library.

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Vee's avatar

Good chat.

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Ronald McElroy's avatar

Kamala Harris. Not a single primary vote and she was escalated to the top.

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Tom's avatar

Why don't you look for them yourself instead of presuming that you're being lied to?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=charlie+kirk+hateful+quotes

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MaryJane's avatar

Without knowing the people he mentioned, we cannot say it's true or not. It does happen

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Rod Dawson's avatar

"Many people buy into this (Zionist) propaganda, even people on the left, but that doesn't make them turds." - It absolutely does.

"Kirk left behind a loving and caring family and I am sure his little children didn't think that he was a piece of shit of a human being because of his political views." - They absolutely should.

"I know many kind people that support Israel" -They absolutely can't be. No 'kind' person could support genocide, ethnic cleansing, and such sadistic Israeli 'sports' as shooting teenagers in the genitals and starving babies to death. No decent person either.

"Do you buy into the bullshit that the covid pandemic was real?" - Dummold Turmp does.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

100%

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"CHARLIE KIRK: 'I stand with Israel'"

Enough said. Calling him a 'piece of shit' is a euphemism. He was orders of magnitude worse than that.

Some more stuff about him ->

- On July 28, 2025, Kirk posted a video on X saying "No, Israel is not starving Gazans," (https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1949908699411288130)

- Charlie Kirk was a supporter of Israel - He was described by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday as a "lion-hearted friend of Israel."

There is so much PURE EVIL about this person - do your own research. Some linkes ->

https://vinnews.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-a-pro-israel-conservative-voice-in-american-politics/

The word 'evil' doesn't even begin to describe Charlie Kirk...

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Vee's avatar

So he is inherently evil because he supports Israel? Do you know assanine that is? Do you not realize that the vast majority of people who support Zionism and Israel are completely brainwashed by western propaganda?

My in laws support Israel because they watch the mainstream media. Does that make them pieces of shit? No. It makes them brainwashed sheeple.

There is a difference.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"There is a difference."

Sure, there is a difference. Are you saying that Charlie Kirk is 'brainwashed by Western propaganda'? Are you suggesting that Charlie Kirk is naive and a stupid fool? I doubt it. I think Charlie Kirk is smart enough (and articulate enough) to know the difference.

And it's not just his support of Israel, Zionism, and the Genocide that makes him evil. That's just the icing on top of the cake. The 'whole cake' is EVIL. But then again, if you're in a conservative right-wing 'echo-chamber', then you obviously haven't come across the plethora of information that damns him.

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Where is the difference between brainwashed and evil.

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hierochloe's avatar

speaking as someone who was once a turd (and probably still am), that guy was a latrine full of shite

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Michael Ernest's avatar

I don't know anything about him. Was his family life loving and caring? Maybe. But it's just an assumption. And hardly anyone cared but them when he was alive. But it seems like jumping to assumptions is your thing regarding a lot of stuff.

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Vee's avatar

What assumptions am I jumping to exactly? It seems to me that most of the people here who supposedly care about human rights because of their die hard defense of Palestine do not see the hypocrisy of celebrating the death of another human being.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

A hundred Charlie Kirks would not equal a single Gazan baby murdered by Israel (and its supporters).

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Nick Douglas's avatar

Is Netanyahu a human being. Should we feel sorry or happy when he dies or is killed?

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Tom's avatar

Highly disingenuous virtue signaling take. How about: "Most of the people here who care about human rights also understand math, and that a single person was murdered sparking massive, outsize media attention, while the Israelis with American support murder dozens or hundreds every single day through assassination and starvation and nobody is flying flags at half staff or writing long hagiographic obituaries for any of them."

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tre peperoncini's avatar

I applaud and admire you stating such, I have my own political views, but if our humanity can not transcend our hatred of each-other`s political views , we are no longer human.

I`ve come to understand that my prospective of the world, is born of my ignorance not whatever knowledge, facts nor logic which I fancy I reason, for there so much more I do not know, do not understand, have yet to comprehend, ... alas I know I know nothing - Socrates

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wilter downs's avatar

I wish you and the right had reacted like this when a christian nationalist went on a rampage in Minnesota back in june against zionist dem state reps.....

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Anti-Hip's avatar

I heartily support your POV, but good luck with that.

Many people believe it is always possible to know absolute, unimpeachable truth, not just normatively but positively, and with that, *some* think they can then just run with it ... all the way to justifying murder-for-justice. It doesn't matter whether Zionist, woke, anti-abortion, capitalism, or really any other belief set.

We need instead to have eternal humility, as humans are unavoidably limited and imperfect.

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