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Tom Worster's avatar

What Kissinger said at Davos is likely more indicative of where this is going next than what Manchin said.

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asher2789's avatar

It’s wild that we live in a world where KISSINGER!!! is advocating for peace.

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Tom Worster's avatar

Peace is sometimes a side-effect of pursuing material interests. Kissinger isn't stupid enough to deny that in this case since any serious and informed person can see it and after the NYT and Telegraph have already changed their tune in print. Manchin is.

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Uta's avatar

Didn't he do it in Vietnam 73? Why is it always Kissinger anyway? He has been in charge since he got the job as a German/English translator for Allan Dulles in 45. How old is he now?

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Tom Worster's avatar

He's 98 years old, according to Ask Jimbo! (Wikipedia)

5 years older than Noam Chomsky.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

OMG, thank you. I have been hoping that Kissinger would somehow be able to talk on Ukraine. FYI, he is 99 years old! I wish that Gorbachev's health was good enough to go public. Kissinger has been promoting NEUTRALITY since GW Bush was in office, maybe earlier.

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

It's true, Kissinger was the first to look deep into Putin's eyes and claim he had a pure and clean soul and that he was a good man.

It wasn't until recently I've come to realize Kissinger was a Soviet plant all along advising Nixon to further entrench in the quagmire that was Vietnam. Mohamed is right, Americans are so dumb about what is going on in the world and even at home under their noses. Kissinger, like Gladio after WWII, is part of the Soviet left-behind strategy. The Soviets didn't die, but rather have disguised themselves for the past three decades as capitalist pigs in order to bide their time and await the zeitgeist so they can rise again. The zeitgeist is now.

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papasha408's avatar

Yawn!

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

Sleep apnea will do that to you.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

You too? I stop breathing 100x an hour. Undergone 3 surgeries. Doctors can sell you anything if you get desperate enough.

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

Not me. I don't have sleep apnea but I hear this is what it will do to you — make you yawn all day. I don't sleep, hence no sleep apnea. I've never had any need for sleep. Too much living to be done for that.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Quite a scramble and mash. Side note. Some early Cold Warriors made the shift during this Post USSR transition. Go figure. Maybe we should just stick to the US/NATO dream team. Our leaders work for the arms makers. Simple.

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

I agree, our "leaders" do work for the arms makers and that includes the weapons that are used for mass shootings right here in America that many in Glenn Greenwald's audience support. It is hypocritically ironical that these critics will decry weapons manufacturers when it comes to military ordinance used abroad but support the sale of military ordinance domestically so their sleeper cells can murder poor black people and elementary school hispanic children.

Whereas America's so-called "leaders" work for the arms dealers, in Russia the "leaders" are the arms dealers. Russia eliminated the middle man. It's much more efficient that way.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

And those who want to control guns in US have no qualms with flooding Ukraine with unthinkable amounts of weapons, a country known to be rife with nazis, fascists, crime, civil war, corruption, etc etc. Neoliberals/Neocons are the same party, the war party,

The warmongering republicrats/neoliberals are allies of neocons, are no longer distinguishable from each other, they gutted our infrastructure, stole from our citizens, to fund their globalist wars for resources, and commercial culture created IDpol so petty infighting would create a distraction. Our never-ending wars only accomplished blowback and mass destruction.

Now our hypocritical US leaders/diplomats with their highly charged masses has put us on brink of nuclear war so they might rule the ashes. They do not care how many world wide are hurt. Central & South American nations are removing themselves from US western hegemony and associations. Did you know we tried another coup attempt in Cuba recently? The Cold War is alive, and US is the one in the lead. In 1997 NATO became a greater tool of the weapons makers as they announced massive expansion plans. Stocks spiked.

I am a lifetime activist and started and ran a progressive nonprofit and watched them for 40 drain any hope of a real democracy in USA. I never had children and drained my bank account several times in the name of a cause, risked being at odds with my dad, only to see such efforts coopted and abused by larger interests. All our leaders and diplomats now are paid shills by arms makers. Everything is in interest in promoting and escalating wars, covert activities, coups, creating environments for greater crimes, etc.

US is began bombing Somalia again, and is declaring war on China. We have NO diplomats capable of negotiation or peacemaking. Our security state is silencing people, and GW has been NORMALIZED by Obama, Biden and Clinton. The Bush Doctrine is safe now to move freely, and all the sociopaths in charge are working for Pentagon and the arms industry. This is not NEW NEWS, this has been the case as long as I can remember and why I got arrested so many times 1981-1996, one time with my church in Pasadena. I never brought children in this god awful world, helped homeless at risk to myself, etc etc. all my virtue signaling means nothing. now nuclear power is making huge comeback as opportunists are exploiting this situation. Blah, blah, blah.

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

The Dems do not want to control guns. They pretend they do. Otherwise, guns would be controlled.

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Evil Harry's avatar

Not even the Soviets want anything to do with the communists in DC.

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asher2789's avatar

What communists in DC? We don’t even have nationalized healthcare!

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Evil Harry's avatar

ALL of the democrats and Rinos.

They certainly aren't acting in the interests of America, or it's people, but only to line their own pockets and subjugate / starve / beggar the populace.

I would add murder, but Cuomo wasn't in DC.

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asher2789's avatar

Please tell me where the workers own the means of production I’m very interested in this supposed “communism” you speak of

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

What Soviets?

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Evil Harry's avatar

The fictional boogeymen we are told still inhabit the Eastern bloc.

The Soviet union ceased to exist, but the Western rhetoric never changed.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

We must feed bodies to the arms makers

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Just read that George Schlutz was leading the way for a peace time post USSR reduction in nukes. Henry writes about it on his website. I recall when Schultz turned anti nuke.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Post USSR, Kennan was so ready to MOVE ON and cooperate with the transition, etc.

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The Inquisitive Inquisitor's avatar

Sure, why not? A two for one.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

This was Kissinger's advice in 2014. He was very very displeased with HRC, and refused to endorse her in 2016, though, not sure, he might have come in the last day. Old Henry also gave this advice to GW about 7 years earlier. It is not much unlike many other sage advisors, many who are General and Colonels. https://www.henryakissinger.com/articles/how-the-ukraine-crisis-ends/

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