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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

yes, surrender is always the appropriate response to aggression, peace uber alles

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jamenta's avatar

You act like we should all be happy that this war is still going on, and that the West is pouring billions and billions more into this war and pretending there are no diplomatic options at all.

That's the big lie here isn't it Frank? That's the lie that Caitlin is pointing out: that we're all being led to believe there is no other option except killing each other, and spending billions upon billions of dollars that the US economy really can't afford anymore.

And guys like you will likely be cheering on humankind's demise because war must be the only answer - and anyone who disagrees with you are "Putin Puppets".

What a pile of shit.

I think JFK was right - if humankind doesn't put an end to war, war will put an end to humankind.

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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

"You act like we should all be happy that this war is still going on"

Stop hallucinating.

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Feral Finster's avatar

You're the one claiming that negotiations are surrender.

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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

a negotiated surrender where the aggressor bites off territory is still a surrender

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

I think what is forgotten here is: Where is the sovereignty rights of the Donbas states the last 8 years?

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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

Dunno, where is sovereignty rights of the state of Ukraine in the last 8 years?

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Feral Finster's avatar

Who died and made you Lord High Master Of Terminology?

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Frank Ch. Eigler's avatar

I killed the previous Lord High Master Of Terminology in hand-to-hand combat. After that, he negotiated passing the title. And there was peace.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Any negotiated solution is "surrender", then. Why bother with a State Department? Just make war on everyone.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Yes, and USA has always been right about every never ending war they ever started. Are you serious? This war was 100% provoked, and for 8 years there was a simply diplomatic solution. Even old Kissinger had the same advice Colonels and Generals, and other advisors have been presenting for decades. This Ukraine coup stuff started with GW in 2004, then HRC/Obama in 2014. We win for the number of coups. We are bigoted and intolerant of other cultures, and we will rape, rob, pillage and burn to save the village. I think USA has killed about 20-30 million since WWII. GW maybe 2 million.

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jlalbrecht's avatar

When supreme war criminal Henry Kissinger says Ukraine should take the L and negotiate, you know Ukraine has no fucking chance to win.

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