I agree that the CIA is a highly suspect and dangerous organisation - don't agree that it is particularly linked with Zionism - at least no more than any other branch of US government
Respectfully, Chris, the CIA-Mossad links documented ad nauseam by Whitney Webb and supported by Grayzone journalism make it tough to downplay a tight link between the CIA and Zionism.
No doubt any large, serious political enterprise (faction) is aware of Zionism (since there seem to be a lot of fanatical Zionists who must be dealt with), but so it would also be involved with other important factions. Zionism has been unusually successful, but it is not the end of the story; there are other factions who may have different interests. I think the important thing to keep in mind is that the US set of factions seems to be failing, for instance, some important classes or categories of the population are declining in lifespan and quality of life. Many of the general population experience this decline vividly and it has already had political consequences, for example the Trump phenomenon. The Zionist focus set can't take care of the population in general regardless of how clever their games are because it is too tight. The consequences will be disastrous -- for example, Gaza.
I don't think the CIA care about Zionism as such - achieving a homeland for Jewish people - they could care less about Jews or anyone else. The Zionists in Israel are just useful idiots for the US military strategy across the region. For the US, local politics - who owns or runs some country or region is of purely temporary interest. Groups - like anti Saddam Kurds, or anti Russian Afghans will be supported, even as their land is reduced to a battlefield, until they are no longer useful, or become a problem, or the geo-political scene changes. Then they are summarily dropped - as, I believe, the Zionists will eventually find out. The CIA hates everyone equally, including a good proportion of the American people.
Pursuant to your claim and comment I'm just being anti-semitic and don't know what I'm talking about - Fuck you up your ass bro.
I served as adviser to Cong. Dennis Kucinich for eight years and DEFINITELY KNOW what I'm talking about and where all the bodies are buried and who buried them. You can return to your Zionist fantasyworld now.
I will never forget something that Dennis Kucinich said at a rally in N.H. some time ago. A very Marxist looking group sitting in the front had a woman stand up and ask Dennis if he would continue to fund Israel for 20 Billion a year. His answer shocked me. He replied that yes, he would continue the funding. Why? Because, he said: "Israel holds the match, and 20 Billion is the price we pay for them to not light it."
If that isn't some kind of blackmail threat, I don't know what is. Zionism to me seems more of a covert British Empire project that is craftily using the Jews to do the dirty work until the conquest is complete. Then they will turn on the Jews. The US ceased to be free from the UK when it submitted to the Federal Reserve Board Banking system. People also should research Jacob Frank and Frankism. Frankists hate Judaism and the Israel of the Bible, but see Jews and Israel as a tool to reestablish the Roman Empire.
So sick of the canard that criticism of Israel is antisemitism. This is exactly the kind of limited thought that Caitlin is speaking of in this article. Jewish children (speaking from personal experience here) are indoctrinated from a young age to believe they will be exterminated again if they don't support Israel without question. They are trained to think every Palestinian and/or Arab is a terrorist, forgetting their own terrorist acts over the decades. This conditioning over decades creates the fierce support. What pains me is that there is zero accountability when evil deeds are being done. Yes, one can condemn Hamas, but also condemn the ethnic cleansing and previous treatment that has taken place. We are also not told that the top levels of Hamas are filled by Israeli Intelligence. This little tidbit was in a blurb in the Jerusalem Post around 2002. I cut it out because it was so shocking. What this says to me is that Hamas only strikes when Israel wants it for an excuse to act. The "terrorist" thing is getting old already....the deep state has overplayed its hand on this.
Do I hate Israel? I hate the Zionist pretend version, but love and believe in the Israel of God which is nothing like the current State. Calling it "Israel" does not make it so. The powers that be have really played with words in the past few centuries to destroy meaning. The Book of Deuteronomy clearly curses Israel when it behaves like it is currently doing...I wish the Zionists would be mindful of this. Modern Israel could be a blessing, but instead it chooses to embody the worst of their former Egyptian, Babylonian and Roman oppressors. It is anti-Israel in reality. Time to reclaim the word itself from those who are abusing it for evil purposes...food for thought.
The world needs healing. Victims can easily become the abuser if the trauma is not properly handled. We have seen this in the behavior of the Israelis and I also fear that we will see this behavior in Gazans and Palestinians if there is not serious dealing with the trauma that has been inflicted.
good to know that US Congresspersons have such high calibre advisers, able to muster really strong arguments and evidence to support their opinion - such as "Fuck you up your ass", or "YOU MAKE MY ASS ITCH", "why don't you move to israel", and who could forget "You're a fool you moron". However, I regret to say that even this intellectually challenging standard of debate is not winning me over. In fact I can't work out whether you want to sodomise me, bro, or you are itching for me to sodomise you.
Well said, Chris. You've very succinctly summed up Ron's undoubted debating skills. He is possessed of a truly awesome intellect. Or maybe I should have stopped at 'He is possessed'.
You're a fool you moron....AIPAC controls U.S. foreign policy with an iron fist and a fistful of dollars. You truly are clueless about DC politics and should refrain from making your dumbass empty comments in public.
I agree that the CIA is a highly suspect and dangerous organisation - don't agree that it is particularly linked with Zionism - at least no more than any other branch of US government
Respectfully, Chris, the CIA-Mossad links documented ad nauseam by Whitney Webb and supported by Grayzone journalism make it tough to downplay a tight link between the CIA and Zionism.
Fuck off Israeli Zionist dickhead. STFU.
Has someone seized control of your substack account? Hopefully not your mind!
Fuck you up your ass.......
Va fa in culo anche a te.
“don't agree that it is particularly linked with Zionism”
Clearly, you haven’t been paying attention.
No doubt any large, serious political enterprise (faction) is aware of Zionism (since there seem to be a lot of fanatical Zionists who must be dealt with), but so it would also be involved with other important factions. Zionism has been unusually successful, but it is not the end of the story; there are other factions who may have different interests. I think the important thing to keep in mind is that the US set of factions seems to be failing, for instance, some important classes or categories of the population are declining in lifespan and quality of life. Many of the general population experience this decline vividly and it has already had political consequences, for example the Trump phenomenon. The Zionist focus set can't take care of the population in general regardless of how clever their games are because it is too tight. The consequences will be disastrous -- for example, Gaza.
I don't think the CIA care about Zionism as such - achieving a homeland for Jewish people - they could care less about Jews or anyone else. The Zionists in Israel are just useful idiots for the US military strategy across the region. For the US, local politics - who owns or runs some country or region is of purely temporary interest. Groups - like anti Saddam Kurds, or anti Russian Afghans will be supported, even as their land is reduced to a battlefield, until they are no longer useful, or become a problem, or the geo-political scene changes. Then they are summarily dropped - as, I believe, the Zionists will eventually find out. The CIA hates everyone equally, including a good proportion of the American people.
Well said Chris Leeds! Completely agree.
You're so wrong about the CIA YOU MAKE MY ASS ITCH. Stop commenting here, dickhead.
Pursuant to your claim and comment I'm just being anti-semitic and don't know what I'm talking about - Fuck you up your ass bro.
I served as adviser to Cong. Dennis Kucinich for eight years and DEFINITELY KNOW what I'm talking about and where all the bodies are buried and who buried them. You can return to your Zionist fantasyworld now.
I will never forget something that Dennis Kucinich said at a rally in N.H. some time ago. A very Marxist looking group sitting in the front had a woman stand up and ask Dennis if he would continue to fund Israel for 20 Billion a year. His answer shocked me. He replied that yes, he would continue the funding. Why? Because, he said: "Israel holds the match, and 20 Billion is the price we pay for them to not light it."
If that isn't some kind of blackmail threat, I don't know what is. Zionism to me seems more of a covert British Empire project that is craftily using the Jews to do the dirty work until the conquest is complete. Then they will turn on the Jews. The US ceased to be free from the UK when it submitted to the Federal Reserve Board Banking system. People also should research Jacob Frank and Frankism. Frankists hate Judaism and the Israel of the Bible, but see Jews and Israel as a tool to reestablish the Roman Empire.
So sick of the canard that criticism of Israel is antisemitism. This is exactly the kind of limited thought that Caitlin is speaking of in this article. Jewish children (speaking from personal experience here) are indoctrinated from a young age to believe they will be exterminated again if they don't support Israel without question. They are trained to think every Palestinian and/or Arab is a terrorist, forgetting their own terrorist acts over the decades. This conditioning over decades creates the fierce support. What pains me is that there is zero accountability when evil deeds are being done. Yes, one can condemn Hamas, but also condemn the ethnic cleansing and previous treatment that has taken place. We are also not told that the top levels of Hamas are filled by Israeli Intelligence. This little tidbit was in a blurb in the Jerusalem Post around 2002. I cut it out because it was so shocking. What this says to me is that Hamas only strikes when Israel wants it for an excuse to act. The "terrorist" thing is getting old already....the deep state has overplayed its hand on this.
Do I hate Israel? I hate the Zionist pretend version, but love and believe in the Israel of God which is nothing like the current State. Calling it "Israel" does not make it so. The powers that be have really played with words in the past few centuries to destroy meaning. The Book of Deuteronomy clearly curses Israel when it behaves like it is currently doing...I wish the Zionists would be mindful of this. Modern Israel could be a blessing, but instead it chooses to embody the worst of their former Egyptian, Babylonian and Roman oppressors. It is anti-Israel in reality. Time to reclaim the word itself from those who are abusing it for evil purposes...food for thought.
The world needs healing. Victims can easily become the abuser if the trauma is not properly handled. We have seen this in the behavior of the Israelis and I also fear that we will see this behavior in Gazans and Palestinians if there is not serious dealing with the trauma that has been inflicted.
good to know that US Congresspersons have such high calibre advisers, able to muster really strong arguments and evidence to support their opinion - such as "Fuck you up your ass", or "YOU MAKE MY ASS ITCH", "why don't you move to israel", and who could forget "You're a fool you moron". However, I regret to say that even this intellectually challenging standard of debate is not winning me over. In fact I can't work out whether you want to sodomise me, bro, or you are itching for me to sodomise you.
Well said, Chris. You've very succinctly summed up Ron's undoubted debating skills. He is possessed of a truly awesome intellect. Or maybe I should have stopped at 'He is possessed'.
SUCK MY DICK BITCH........FUCK SMOOTH OFF ZIOFUCK!
You must be posting your bullshit from Israel.
You're a fool you moron....AIPAC controls U.S. foreign policy with an iron fist and a fistful of dollars. You truly are clueless about DC politics and should refrain from making your dumbass empty comments in public.