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Dr.Who's avatar

And to their utter shock, manufacturing consent is not quite the same game when everyone with phone is a journalist. So double down, they will...but no one’s buying the bs any more.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Sadly, too too many folks still buy usa rank propaganda. Even when the scenario is totally clear that the usa is, always, the problem.

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Dr.Who's avatar

Millions have woken up but when you start with hundreds of millions, it takes quite some time to open that many eyes. So yes, there are still too many millions who are buying the bs. But the tide has turned and the turn is irreversible.

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russian_bot's avatar

"manufacturing consent is not quite the same ..." - true, but so are their efforts to try really hard. They just switched to driving their narrative down the throats (or some other place and direction) of the gullible public.

The common - too common, unfortunately - denominator is the public. How stupid can so many people be to consume all that.

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Fran's avatar

They say 50 percent of Americans do not approve of what Israel is doing. If true, good! Biden and his administration have portrayed themselves as embracing the other, yet he's feeding Israel bombs to blow up what he and his administration and Israel perceive as the "other." He had a lot of practice in pushing our Middle Eastern wars that never would have happened if those that resided in countries like Iran, Libya, Syria, etc were made up of a Christian population.

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russian_bot's avatar

Biden and Co didn't have a problem supporting islamists in Checnya, Afghanistan, Syria against mostly Christians of Russia and Syria (which is multi-religion). They have zero scruples helping to destroy Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine and facilitating killing of hundreds of thousands mostly Christians of Ukraine and Russia.

Why does everything have to linked to religion? The fact that scumbags bring it in when convenient for them shouldn't become a bait for regular folks to swallow. They use it as a tool to divide and conquer. When someone like you brings it up, it is helping them succeed.

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Fran's avatar

Don't go off on a tangent. From the outset Palestinians were perceived as inferior, as were Arabs in general, by the Europeans and Americans. That's one of the reasons the colonial powers of WWI could so easily turn over the land of Palestine to the Zionists after the fall of the Ottoman empire. In 1948, the UN made it official, although their were countries who offered some opposition they were strong armed into compliance. In 1948 there was the Nakba which also reflects their highly prejudicial attitude. They are the Chosen People, right? After, decades of abuse the Palestinian population in recent years reside in an outdoor concentration camp with no access to the sea. Covered less, is the he West Bank which has had it's lands stolen and settler communities have taken over a large swath of it, driving the Palestinians out. They are often killed by settlers, and who kill with impunity. They can rot in jail with no charges against them for years. As Gallant said, they are animals, yes and that's the way Israel see's them, so a genocide in their minds is perfectly okay even with the world watching. 

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russian_bot's avatar

You said referring to Biden (all caps are mine):

"He had a lot of practice in pushing our Middle Eastern wars that NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if those that resided in countries like Iran, Libya, Syria, etc were made up of a Christian population."

And when I provided data it had nothing to do with religion you say: "Don't go off on a tangent."

What's your definition of a tangent?

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Fran's avatar

Look, think you want, and yes of course we support Muslims when they can be useful, or are on our side, and yes we used them in Syria, to bring down Assad and yes we used the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and feed them weapons to bring down Russia, etc, but if you look at the 21st century with millions of Muslims killed or displaced, you know they are perceived as less then. I have no desire to prove anything to you. I am voicing my perceptions and many who cover this topic agree and isn't this what Caitlin's post was all about today.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

Pointing out something is tangential is often times a tangent itself.

For obvious reasons.

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Terry Byrne's avatar

As always, the usa does what it does ONLY for the usa. Of that 50% you mention, a sizeable percent could be holding that position for purely racist/anti semitic reasons. usa racism is only spoken loudly against those that the usa sanctions/allows the racism to be advanced/perpetrated. There is a unspoken "ban" on racism against Jews but Indians, Muslims, dark skinned people, First Nations peoples, ... let usa racism flow ... 'cause "freedom of speech".

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Fran's avatar

The US is not an anti-Semitic country, and that number surprised me since AIPAC has so much control over our politicians, and politics. Sorry but I truly do not understand the rest of your commentary or it's purpose.

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ChazLB's avatar

hes being a bit sarcastic..it might get lost in translation but i read it as agreeing with you

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Fran's avatar

Maybe your right. Sorry Russian Bot!!!!!

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