The Iron Dome collapsed and Iranian missiles, which previously had been used mostly symbolically, did massive damage to Israeli cities, military bases, and research centers...so devastating that Israel, which sought to widen the war, called for a ceasefire, almost a sacrilege for Netanyahu.
Trump, who publicly acknowledged the massive damage, called the US bombing "a total success" which had "obliterated" the Iranian capability to start up a nuclear weapons program, because, while the evidence is that he lied, he did so based on fear of the real power Iran showed, which could attack US bases (they did but let the US know it was going to happen, again a more symbolic gesture that military attack, in order to show restraint.
The attack on Israel did NOT show restraint, and Israel blinked and said, enough. Netanyahu can survive so long as thousand of Gazans and Lebanese are being killed, but as soon as the victims of war are Israelis, he knows that it's time to back down.
I want to add a comment: the entire raison d'etre of a Jewish ethnostate is provide a safe place for Jews. Any leader who fails to provide this is at risk of being dumped. Oct 7 almost took Netanyahu out but his massive genocidal massacre gave him a reprieve as a war Prime Minister, but if it is found that the fabled Iron Dome cannot protect Israelis and that Iran, whom Netanyahu bragged was impotent to respond, is capable of causing significant damage to both Israeli defense and citizens, the project has failed to work and the public will not tolerate failure to provide "a safe space for Jews." So Netanyahu, despite in effect surrendering will claim victory, to mask his humiliation.
Like Oct 7, the most credible explanation is that it was indeed planned but like 9/11 it was known by intelligence and allowed to happen as pretext. Some flags are manufactured; many are allowing something to happen that could have been stopped. There is no logic to claiming something that happened 23 yrs earlier was a pretext for Oct 7.
The most outspoken critics of Israel have often been Jews. I read the oldest publication in Israel, Haaretz, daily and it is the conscience of Jewish Israelis, speaking truth to power, exposing lies and atrocities. We should feel deep kinship with those Jews with the gut to speak out against Israerli criminality, for they are the least safe of all.
Great point. Most of the best and most persuasive anti-Zionists are Jewish: Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal, Ilan Pappé, John Mearsheimer and many more.
Also, many of the most vile Zionists have been gentiles: Mike Huckabee, Cyrus Scofield, John Nelson Darby, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, etc.
I believe that when they properly lose control of the narrative the Zionists will pivot to try to divert criticism from Zionism to Jews in general. Both to discredit anti-Zionism, and to try to unite Jews around Zionism.
As usual, you fail in reading comprehension: my point was clear to anyoe not lusting to smash me with hatred. Among Jew, those who face the most danger are those who criticize Israel. I will amend my comment so that even you get its meaining, which is clear to anyone not frothing at the mouth to pin me down: "We should feel deep inship with those Jews with the guts to spea against Israeli criminalit, for they are the least safe Jews of all. Nothing in the original comment even hinted at a comparison with the Palestinians. So go hate someone else a while; it's boring.
WHY are you talking about 'the safety of Jews' in the first place when there is a GENOCIDE GOING ON OF PALESTINIANS ???
Why do you KEEP focusing on 'Jews and their safety' in an environment of 'utter annihilation' of Palestinians and so many other Muslims, Christians, and Arabs in the MENA region ???
What are YOUR priorities Dale Ruff? What are YOUR morals? This ISN'T the time to 'wanting to be NEUTRAL' or 'playing BOTH sides'.
My comment was understood to be speaking, as was the topic of my post, of the safety of Jews. My clear point is that those Jews who speak out against Israeli war crimes are the least safe among them. Perhaps you do not understand that by Israeli criminality, I mean the genocide of Palestinians. Stop acting stupid.
"The most outspoken critics of Israel have often been Jews" - and that's perfectly fine for the purposes of control. Create an illusion of "democracy" while dismissing them in reality. All the while keep doing what you're doing..
The hater is back> an example of a Jew who has been attacked by AIPAC for calling out Israel for murder is NOam Chomsky. No one in our lifetimes has been more influential in teaching us the mechanisms of control and challenging us to confront it. Another group of Jews in Israel are the people who write for Haaretz and on a daily basis denounce the regime. These people pay a price for standing up and speaking truth to power. Haaratz nor Chomsky are claiming Israel (or the US) is a democracy but calling out the slid into fascism, as Einstein did in 1948. They are no part of control but the challenge to control. You are an idiot with your stupid fake name. Please leave me alone; you are not only obnoxious but boring.
Look for the transcript I'm going to publish of Joti Brar explaining the scam of the Labor party in Britain. It is exactly the same as the one the Democrats use here in the US.
Do note this quote:
"Zionism is not optional for a British career politician at a high level -- it's mandatory."
Here's the link to the entire episode. Brar nails it. The problem is capitalism.
Thank you JohnOnKaui for the link to Joti Brar. Her Marxist analysis of capitalism and imperialism is one that the people of the global south have been aware of, and struggling against for ever. And the good people of the West should make themselves acquainted with, if there's going to be an escape from the present inferno.
Wading through Caitlin's comment page - and getting exceedingly disappointed by the way some go hammer and tongs at each other indulging in hairsplitting - it was a relief to come across your link to Joti Brar.
About that massive victory in the "12 Days War."
The Iron Dome collapsed and Iranian missiles, which previously had been used mostly symbolically, did massive damage to Israeli cities, military bases, and research centers...so devastating that Israel, which sought to widen the war, called for a ceasefire, almost a sacrilege for Netanyahu.
Trump, who publicly acknowledged the massive damage, called the US bombing "a total success" which had "obliterated" the Iranian capability to start up a nuclear weapons program, because, while the evidence is that he lied, he did so based on fear of the real power Iran showed, which could attack US bases (they did but let the US know it was going to happen, again a more symbolic gesture that military attack, in order to show restraint.
The attack on Israel did NOT show restraint, and Israel blinked and said, enough. Netanyahu can survive so long as thousand of Gazans and Lebanese are being killed, but as soon as the victims of war are Israelis, he knows that it's time to back down.
Iron Dome. It might have worked before but weapons have changed. I never believed there was an iron dome in the first place.
As it is: All Uranium was moved from what I read.
IRON SIEVE
Or Aluminum Colander.
I want to add a comment: the entire raison d'etre of a Jewish ethnostate is provide a safe place for Jews. Any leader who fails to provide this is at risk of being dumped. Oct 7 almost took Netanyahu out but his massive genocidal massacre gave him a reprieve as a war Prime Minister, but if it is found that the fabled Iron Dome cannot protect Israelis and that Iran, whom Netanyahu bragged was impotent to respond, is capable of causing significant damage to both Israeli defense and citizens, the project has failed to work and the public will not tolerate failure to provide "a safe space for Jews." So Netanyahu, despite in effect surrendering will claim victory, to mask his humiliation.
10/7 was a 💯%false flag planned pretext to commit the Palestine holocaust. They all knew it!
Like Oct 7, the most credible explanation is that it was indeed planned but like 9/11 it was known by intelligence and allowed to happen as pretext. Some flags are manufactured; many are allowing something to happen that could have been stopped. There is no logic to claiming something that happened 23 yrs earlier was a pretext for Oct 7.
As long as one calls oneself a 'jew' or whatever there's zero safety. This is guaranteed.
The most outspoken critics of Israel have often been Jews. I read the oldest publication in Israel, Haaretz, daily and it is the conscience of Jewish Israelis, speaking truth to power, exposing lies and atrocities. We should feel deep kinship with those Jews with the gut to speak out against Israerli criminality, for they are the least safe of all.
Great point. Most of the best and most persuasive anti-Zionists are Jewish: Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal, Ilan Pappé, John Mearsheimer and many more.
Also, many of the most vile Zionists have been gentiles: Mike Huckabee, Cyrus Scofield, John Nelson Darby, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, etc.
I believe that when they properly lose control of the narrative the Zionists will pivot to try to divert criticism from Zionism to Jews in general. Both to discredit anti-Zionism, and to try to unite Jews around Zionism.
Yes. When the Jews are no longer a good sell, they will be disposed of.
Just like Ukraine.
"...Jews with the gut to speak out against Israerli criminality, for they are the least safe of all"
Really Dale Ruff? Have you been aware of the Genocide of Palestinians in Gaza? Are you 'deaf, dumb, and blind'?
I would say that the Palestinians are orders of magnitude MORE unsafe than ANY Jew (or Zionist) on the planet. Do you disagree with me?
As usual, you fail in reading comprehension: my point was clear to anyoe not lusting to smash me with hatred. Among Jew, those who face the most danger are those who criticize Israel. I will amend my comment so that even you get its meaining, which is clear to anyone not frothing at the mouth to pin me down: "We should feel deep inship with those Jews with the guts to spea against Israeli criminalit, for they are the least safe Jews of all. Nothing in the original comment even hinted at a comparison with the Palestinians. So go hate someone else a while; it's boring.
Here's the question Dale Ruff ->
WHY are you talking about 'the safety of Jews' in the first place when there is a GENOCIDE GOING ON OF PALESTINIANS ???
Why do you KEEP focusing on 'Jews and their safety' in an environment of 'utter annihilation' of Palestinians and so many other Muslims, Christians, and Arabs in the MENA region ???
What are YOUR priorities Dale Ruff? What are YOUR morals? This ISN'T the time to 'wanting to be NEUTRAL' or 'playing BOTH sides'.
My comment was understood to be speaking, as was the topic of my post, of the safety of Jews. My clear point is that those Jews who speak out against Israeli war crimes are the least safe among them. Perhaps you do not understand that by Israeli criminality, I mean the genocide of Palestinians. Stop acting stupid.
>>"Stop acting stupid."
Stop being stupid Dale Ruff, but maybe that is too much to ask of you. So go ahead and be stupid if you wish.
I simply enjoy the comic relief you often provide us here as a free service. Keep going strong, Dale Ruff!
"The most outspoken critics of Israel have often been Jews" - and that's perfectly fine for the purposes of control. Create an illusion of "democracy" while dismissing them in reality. All the while keep doing what you're doing..
That's been the successful MO so far.
The hater is back> an example of a Jew who has been attacked by AIPAC for calling out Israel for murder is NOam Chomsky. No one in our lifetimes has been more influential in teaching us the mechanisms of control and challenging us to confront it. Another group of Jews in Israel are the people who write for Haaretz and on a daily basis denounce the regime. These people pay a price for standing up and speaking truth to power. Haaratz nor Chomsky are claiming Israel (or the US) is a democracy but calling out the slid into fascism, as Einstein did in 1948. They are no part of control but the challenge to control. You are an idiot with your stupid fake name. Please leave me alone; you are not only obnoxious but boring.
Look for the transcript I'm going to publish of Joti Brar explaining the scam of the Labor party in Britain. It is exactly the same as the one the Democrats use here in the US.
Do note this quote:
"Zionism is not optional for a British career politician at a high level -- it's mandatory."
Here's the link to the entire episode. Brar nails it. The problem is capitalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HABwKORAaZE
Thank you JohnOnKaui for the link to Joti Brar. Her Marxist analysis of capitalism and imperialism is one that the people of the global south have been aware of, and struggling against for ever. And the good people of the West should make themselves acquainted with, if there's going to be an escape from the present inferno.
Wading through Caitlin's comment page - and getting exceedingly disappointed by the way some go hammer and tongs at each other indulging in hairsplitting - it was a relief to come across your link to Joti Brar.
You don't get it.
Would you tell Palestinians NOT to call themselves Palestinians for the same reason?
Who's talking about telling anyone what to do, Dale?