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Filipe Lopes's avatar

Oh gosh, Trump must be in a lot of videos from Jeff Epstein… maybe there are some new ones.

Or the real reports from his doctors, that allegedly gave a him a perfect bill of health.

Or the real results of the elections.

Or whatever other dark secret Donold has.

And the genocider still has work to do, a few wars to start, people to kill.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Nothing to do with Epstein. This is all Trump. This is who/what Trump ALWAYS was/is. That there are so many 'suckers' out there that bought into the Trump/MAGA cult (and still are) is what you might want to worry about.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

"Nothing to do with Epstein."

OK, we can agree on something.

MAGA are not suckers, any more than the rest of us. Look at how many still defend the Democrats. MAGA has issues that should be addressed, but rather than trying to understand what they are, we insult them. That is the goal of the Oligarchy. To get us to hate one another more than we hate them.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"MAGA are not suckers, any more than the rest of us."

I disagree very much with that statement. MAGA are very much a DIFFERENT LEVEL of suckers altogether.

People think MAGA are suckers because they believe in MAGA. I say the inverse - that BECAUSE they were suckers in the first place, they are attracted to 'narratives such as MAGA'.

You think MAGA is the problem? I think MAGA is the symptom. The problem goes much deeper than MAGA.

>>"but rather than trying to understand what they are..."

You mistake me for some 'average MAGA hater'. I DO understand them. There's nothing really special or difficult to understand about MAGA. Trump has successfully hijacked the brains of 'certain kinds of people' with 'narratives about NATIONALISM'. Trump has made his 'nationalism narrative' into a CULT.

But there's nothing unique about the MAGA cult. For example, in India, MODI has developed his own 'Hindu nationalism (Hindutva) cult'. Mussollini had his own cult (The cult of the Duce: Mussolini and the Italians - https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt18mvkcv).

That is how ALL strongmen operate. They all have CULTS, and various narratives used to inculcate people into these cults. Trump's cult happens to be MAGA.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

Of course this is the excuse you offer up to have your own version of how smart you are and how stupid other people are. We've been down this road before.

This is what you do. Perhaps you can't help it.

You hate MAGA and refuse to talk to them or listen to them, so in response they hate you.

The Oligarchy loves you. Keep that chaos and hate spinning round and round and round.

There are times to call MAGA out, but you never, ever give them a break. Like now, you're accusing them of being CULT followers as if they are too stupid to understand what's going on.

JUST STOP IT.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"Like now, you're accusing them of being CULT followers as if they are too stupid to understand what's going on."

There you go John, you're catching on. There are MANY stupid humans on this planet. Simply look at how we are destroying the planet, other species, and other humans to realize how utterly STUPID and UN-EVOLVED homo-sapiens really are (though we pretend to be a 'superior species').

So, yes, "they ARE too stupid to understand what's going on." But of course, they're not the only ones that are stupid.

Here's another example of someone stupid - ME (yes, Chang Chokaski). Most of my life I've been stupid and suckered into the 'narratives of Capitalism'. I'm just glad that I 'somehow' woke up and realized my OWN stupidity for believing such narratives for most of my life.

Somehow, you seem to be MORE bothered by how much people 'hate the MAGA cult' than the problems created by the 'cult itself'. Why is that?

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Dave Darby's avatar

There are two types of Trump Derangement Syndrome; There's there's the kind where you hate him so much. It's irrational, and even if he's for some something you support, you'll still be against him. Then there's the other form of Trump derangement syndrome, where you love him so much, that when he goes against something he said he would do, or he does something that's against your principle, you change your own principles to support him. That's just as dangerous.

The smart ones, with nuance, that is, a degree of perspicacity know not to have either.

Most of the bad things underway today would be happening no matter who is in the white house.

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JohnOnKaui's avatar

Because your solution is to shoot them. (MAGA)

I'm not interested in participation in a Civil War. I'm not even sure how I feel about Luigi when I think about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. Is Luigi a member of the Oligarchy (Like John Kerry or Bill Ayers [do a web search on "Obama's terrorist friend"])

Why is that your (apparent) goal?

Are you a secret "Evangelical Christian" who wants to hasten the second coming? I don't ask this in jest. I truly don't understand the hatred you constantly spew. What's your goal?

Focus on those behind the problems you object to, not on those who believe the false promises that those problems will be addressed. Bernie Sanders absolutely betrayed us. Unfortunately "betrayed" isn't close to strong enough for the crime he committed. And he's out there again with AOC peddling the same lies. (If you haven't read my Joti Brar transcript posted here, do so.)

America needs its own "two-state solution". We need to recognize the chaos being created by the criminal Oligarchy to keep us fighting amongst ourselves rather than focusing on MAGA as the Oligarchy steals the wealth Labor has created.

Capitalism is death.

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Dave Darby's avatar

One word. AIPAC. This was going on under Biden, and don't kid yourself into thinking it wouldn't have continued under Harris. Please quit wasting bandwidth with your limited knowledge of how things work.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Another person that 'reads a few comments' and assumes they know everything.

Yes, guru Dave Darby, since you are apparently the 'knowledge guru" and know how "everything works".

>>"One word. AIPAC."

No, not one word. It's actually TWO words, and they are -> U.S. Empire and CAPITALISM.

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