The classical formula for NATO's purpose was "to keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down." In other words, a colonial effort. Bombing the Germans' pipeline certainly seems to be part of the picture. I wonder how long the Germans will put up with this treatment.
Germans either deny, deny, deflect, deny, shrug their proverbial shoulders and stare at their shoes, or make excuses for their American masters. "Beat us some more, Master! We deserve it!"
Germans *like* being slaves. A slave doesn't have to make any decisions or take any responsibility. And Germans tell themselves that the life of a house slave isn't so bad, compared with a field slave. Didn't Borrell say something about Europe being a "garden", as opposed to the "jungle"?
Perhaps there might be a struggle for a sense of national identity after the disaster of World War II? And the very close connections Germany then built up with the US, only to find the US now contaminated with rampant ideological corruption and militarism - that the Germans are all too aware of can happen to a society?
I too hope the Germans find a way to cut the suicidal umbilical cord they have with the US - and make their way back into a more humane and rational approach to a healthier identity.
I hope so, too, but for Germans, questioning the Atlanticist orientation is a faux pas akin to interrupting a High Papal Mass to demand that the person who just farted please identify himself.
It doesn't matter that nobody believes a word of the solemnities, it doesn't matter how bad the stink is, You Just Don't Do That.
And Germans, like most other Europeans, are all about The Done Thing. In fact, this is *why* Germans must make the excuses, so that they can keep doing The Done Thing, even if it means cutting own throats in the process.
On the other hand Germany has quite a history, to put it very mildly, going back to the ancient world. Given your screen name, you should check out the Chatti, who were among the tribes that wasted the Romans at Teutoberg. Their name probably referred to the European lynx.
Agreed. Germany the country came into existence in 1871. Within 70 years of their birth they had started 2, count them, 2 world wars. When we took away their guns, they dominated those around them financially with their bank. I think they have their identity—it’s Prussian from the get go. A little horse hair in the the fencing scar and a big Ach tung (apologies for spelling). They are the only people of the world that need “re-education” as badly as the Americans do. And I’m half German.
And yet Germany is the heart of Europe. Or maybe I should say "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" and include France (the Franks were a German tribe), the Benelux countries, and Northern Italy. Not long ago they seemed to be to be the last of the liberal states. The last of the last. Pretty ironic given the history.
I don’t know about “irony”—mostly insanity I think. Liberals do not mind war. They in fact embrace it most of the time. Look at Obama and his constant warring, droning, building up nuking, pivoting to China, while displaying the epitome of liberal thinking and the result thereof. Liberals were the guiding force behind the Vietnam horror show, not even blinking over the dropping of napalm on civilians. NAPALM!!! No, even tho now we have neo-liberalism as a concept to explain the viciousness of our thinking and acting, it’s still liberalism that is at bottom nothing more than patriarchy in nice clothes on beautiful people who must stop those damn masses from taking their goods.
Germany is a vassal.
The classical formula for NATO's purpose was "to keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down." In other words, a colonial effort. Bombing the Germans' pipeline certainly seems to be part of the picture. I wonder how long the Germans will put up with this treatment.
Germans either deny, deny, deflect, deny, shrug their proverbial shoulders and stare at their shoes, or make excuses for their American masters. "Beat us some more, Master! We deserve it!"
Germans *like* being slaves. A slave doesn't have to make any decisions or take any responsibility. And Germans tell themselves that the life of a house slave isn't so bad, compared with a field slave. Didn't Borrell say something about Europe being a "garden", as opposed to the "jungle"?
Perhaps there might be a struggle for a sense of national identity after the disaster of World War II? And the very close connections Germany then built up with the US, only to find the US now contaminated with rampant ideological corruption and militarism - that the Germans are all too aware of can happen to a society?
I too hope the Germans find a way to cut the suicidal umbilical cord they have with the US - and make their way back into a more humane and rational approach to a healthier identity.
I hope so, too, but for Germans, questioning the Atlanticist orientation is a faux pas akin to interrupting a High Papal Mass to demand that the person who just farted please identify himself.
It doesn't matter that nobody believes a word of the solemnities, it doesn't matter how bad the stink is, You Just Don't Do That.
And Germans, like most other Europeans, are all about The Done Thing. In fact, this is *why* Germans must make the excuses, so that they can keep doing The Done Thing, even if it means cutting own throats in the process.
On the other hand Germany has quite a history, to put it very mildly, going back to the ancient world. Given your screen name, you should check out the Chatti, who were among the tribes that wasted the Romans at Teutoberg. Their name probably referred to the European lynx.
I am well aware of German history. It doesn't matter now.
Agreed. Germany the country came into existence in 1871. Within 70 years of their birth they had started 2, count them, 2 world wars. When we took away their guns, they dominated those around them financially with their bank. I think they have their identity—it’s Prussian from the get go. A little horse hair in the the fencing scar and a big Ach tung (apologies for spelling). They are the only people of the world that need “re-education” as badly as the Americans do. And I’m half German.
And yet Germany is the heart of Europe. Or maybe I should say "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" and include France (the Franks were a German tribe), the Benelux countries, and Northern Italy. Not long ago they seemed to be to be the last of the liberal states. The last of the last. Pretty ironic given the history.
I don’t know about “irony”—mostly insanity I think. Liberals do not mind war. They in fact embrace it most of the time. Look at Obama and his constant warring, droning, building up nuking, pivoting to China, while displaying the epitome of liberal thinking and the result thereof. Liberals were the guiding force behind the Vietnam horror show, not even blinking over the dropping of napalm on civilians. NAPALM!!! No, even tho now we have neo-liberalism as a concept to explain the viciousness of our thinking and acting, it’s still liberalism that is at bottom nothing more than patriarchy in nice clothes on beautiful people who must stop those damn masses from taking their goods.