What makes "left vs. right" an "abstract concept? It is the particulars that have been shaping politics in the West since the 18th Century. You can say that it is "outdated and useless," but I see absolutely no evidence for that.
You've totally missed the point haven't you because you ignore my "Unless". Again, another one stuck arguing details rather than grasping the bigger picture failing to recognize that there is no "Left" in American Politics.
Maybe I have missed your point, I guess we are coming from entirely different perspectives. I don't mean any disrespect, but you've failed to convinced me of what you say, "there is no left."
It is a question of how the MSM frames the choice for the elections. It has nothing at all to do with what might normally be considered "left" vs "right".
Don't you find yourself discussing American Politics with folks who believe there is such a huge difference between Biden and Trump when there is actually very little difference?
Remember this discussion started with Caitlin's definition of an American Leftist and people taking offense to that description -- which is absolutely perfect in the context of American Politics.
No, I understand the differences are basically cosmetic. I just don't think anyone that would take offense is a leftist, and also don't think politics ends at the doors of the halls of power.
What makes "left vs. right" an "abstract concept? It is the particulars that have been shaping politics in the West since the 18th Century. You can say that it is "outdated and useless," but I see absolutely no evidence for that.
You've totally missed the point haven't you because you ignore my "Unless". Again, another one stuck arguing details rather than grasping the bigger picture failing to recognize that there is no "Left" in American Politics.
Maybe I have missed your point, I guess we are coming from entirely different perspectives. I don't mean any disrespect, but you've failed to convinced me of what you say, "there is no left."
Again, you left out the salient point, "In American Politics".
Checkout politicalcompass.org and remember that Biden is a "leftist".
It is a question of how the MSM frames the choice for the elections. It has nothing at all to do with what might normally be considered "left" vs "right".
Don't you find yourself discussing American Politics with folks who believe there is such a huge difference between Biden and Trump when there is actually very little difference?
Remember this discussion started with Caitlin's definition of an American Leftist and people taking offense to that description -- which is absolutely perfect in the context of American Politics.
No, I understand the differences are basically cosmetic. I just don't think anyone that would take offense is a leftist, and also don't think politics ends at the doors of the halls of power.