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Fran's avatar

Well, I think Tucker is anti-war, and to see anyone on TV who is a news anchor that doesn't vilify Russia and Putin while they sing the praises of Zelensky is A Okay in my book. You have to give him credit since he is the only mainstream news anchor willing to look at the war in Ukraine with a degree of objectivity. Most are akin to that crazy SOB Linsay Graham who should be locked up until this situation is resolved, if it ever is. We sent most of our manufacturing jobs over to China decades ago, cheap labor, more money for the investors too, and China made out big time. We help make them very powerful, but we don't like competitors. I think the most destructive force operating are those damn neocons and their impact on our policies and it is their agenda that will destroy us.

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Tucker's anti-war posture (and John Mearsheimer's) stops in Eastern Europe. He is well prepared to go to war with China, seeing it as America's greatest competitor. China is sure to overtake the US--after all, she has four to five times the number of people, has developed deep public infrastructure and instituted universal public education to the highest levels. Rather than emulate China, we Americans see everything as a zero-sum game, so we wish to stop her rise, to tear her down to our size (drown her in the bathtub). This policy is insane and will only accelerate America's decline.

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I doubt that Carlson's rhetoric about China has anything to do with going to war with this country. From some of his commentary about China he references our many differences with this country even in terms of it's religion and that it is a communist country, with little acceptance for diversity even among it's own people. So I guess what he's saying is, if they should obtain global dominance they would enforce certain ideologies world wide which he finds unacceptable. The US wants world wide dominance and that's the neocon agenda, not good either and I've heard Tucker speak of neocons in very critical terms. Amen! Who do you think is pushing and has pushed our 21st century wars? Neocons. What I see is his concern that China is developing too much world dominance, and that's it, and he not advocating going to war with it either. Why is so much of farmland bought up by foreign countries, and a whole lot by China. Why?

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I doubt Tucker has any principled criticism of China, he just fears her. I suspect you do, too.

You write, "it is a communist country, with little acceptance for diversity even among it's own people..." and I wonder how you have such a wrong-headed idea. Sadly, there is a dearth of information about how things really are in China and instead people just make up anything they please.

I worked in China as an English professor in 2000. Most notable was the immense variety of people in terms of physiognomy, culture, and beliefs. I was well acquainted with some top Party officials as well as cooks and waiters, my teaching assistants, my students and their families. They were all fine people who cared deeply for one another, just as in my hometown. I also visited a downtown Buddhist temple and a monastery on the outskirts. All were thriving and the State supported their practice.

Christianity does not enjoy the same freedom as Buddhism and Taoism, primarily because it is always accompanied by anti-communist politics, much as the heretical Buddhist sect of Falun Gong acts as an enemy of the state.

My first day of class, a group of students visited my office. They asked, "Why do the Americans hate us so?" I have never had a group of American students ask me why the Chinese hate us so (George Bush answered that question, "because of our freedoms").

I am well aware of neocons, and I agree that they are global troublemakers, but there is no equivalent in China. The Chinese do not seek the kind of imperial hegemony that US neocons do. Theirs is a different vision, but since Americans do not understand China, just project whatever onto it. The finance capitalists of the West buy up land in Africa as a speculative investment. If Chinese bought land there, it would be for a productive enterprise. The Chinese are not saints, but they don't mess around trying to create a rentier economy where they are landlord.

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Fran's avatar

I don't hate or fear the Chinese. I teach, and now part time, and many of my students through the years were Chinese. You are making a very prejudicial assumption. I didn't voice my opinion but what I thought Carlson's was, and I don't believe he is someone who wants to go to war with China, as you stated. I didn't say there was any global equivalent to neocons in China, and to be honest I'm more afraid of us then I am of them. That being said, what about those Uyghurs? I doubt China is without prejudice, like all countries.

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Tedder130's avatar

Your comment about "those Uyghurs" shows lack of understanding about China and indicates you have succumbed to anti-China propaganda. China had a problem with Uyghur/Moslem separatist terrorism a few years ago. She solved it with a program to bring the Uyghurs fully into modern China and to reeducate those corrupted by jihadi beliefs. There is sound evidence that the terrorists were a CIA destabilization op, and that is perhaps why the West demonized China for a very progressive approach, ie, China took their best toy away, as opposed to the American way of bombing them to death. At this point in time, the Uyghurs are doing as well as Han Chinese or any other minority and their economy is only hindered by US sanctions supposedly aimed at 'helping' them.

When a nation institutes prejudice as policy, it becomes a fascist state. Chinese people may hold prejudice, but the Chinese state can not and does not.

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Aljazeera 11 Feb 2022  

Economy|UighurChina continues its labour abuse practices against Uighurs: UNA new UN report details a ‘widespread and systematic programme’ of abuse in Xinjiang as well as China’s vehement denial.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Seems I've found someone who shares my loathing of Lindsey Graham.

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Fran's avatar

I would be really surprised if there were not a whole lot of us.

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