The only thing which could possibly give meaning to the hell we live in right now. But maybe that's all it is - reality is simply hell. Maybe the nihilists have been right all along.
It’s my experience that if you want to be the life of the party, it’s best to downplay the part about how we are all actually living in hell. OTH, who really wants to be the life of this party?
When I first ran the thought experiment that “the world is evil”, I assumed it would lead to the worst type of pessimism and to nihilism (as that word is commonly used). But in fact, it did the opposite—all of history, religion, politics and economics suddenly made perfect sense...as grand deception. Once you start taking that perspective seriously, you can cut through the fake optimism and hopium that is driven into us and set about figuring out how to really deal with the world we have rather than with the promised one that's always kept just beyond reach. Obviously, the gnostics were on to something, which is why they've been rubbed out and memory holed by the orthodox and the imperialists throughout recorded history.
The meaning of life, to survive, dominant in the environment of our peers, and to propagate. This is what all Flora and fauna do. Humans are no different, regardless of our level of perceived consciousness. The most ruthless will naturally rise to the top. Mix in some greed, you have current society.
Not really. "Fitness" is usually interpreted as dominating others but if you look at the real world the most helpful species are the most successful, like trees and grasses, fungi worms and bacteria. That's what real fitness is.
Right, let's twist it so it looks beautiful. Trees when they cast too much shade on shorter ones cut themselves down so those others can catch the sun. Or did the shorter ones end up moving away from the taller? Since they couldn't get the taller ones to "help"?
And I'm not even starting with humans. The helpful kind indeed up and until it suits them. Then the killing starts for the fittest to remain. How is that not fitness?
What authority has THE HUMAN MIND to decide what existences are allowed to propagate and which ones not. Your analogy is based on the notion of the 'R Dawkins sugarcoated poison pill' swallowed hook line and sinker.
I have made this exact argument here many times, humans are biological creatures driven by the same parameters as other biological creatures. Most recently the idea that human competition is something that can be controlled or eliminated. Every species from bacteria to humans and beyond are in competition with each other, it is a fundamental part of biological survival. It cannot be eliminated or suppressed without doing damage to the species.
Do colours on a canvas compete to be the most important or prominent one. I haven't seen a painting of that one could call beautiful to resemble that kind of notion nor anything else in GOD ALMIGHTY'S CREATION for sake of completeness that resembles beauty in any shape or form. Look at modern architecture, 'art', 'music' (from hell) ... and think about it what is the most fundamental commonality that has changed determining the outcomes of mentioned aspects of life between 1500 - today... think about you WILL be surprised at first and then it will make so much more sense what is happening before our very own eyes.
Let me also remind you that religions throughout history have competed with each other, usually resulting in a holy war.
You make a reference to almighty god but which one ? There have been so many almighty gods throughout history that its hard to know which one you refer too.
Your casual use of language reveals the superficiality of THE HUMAN MIND making the comment. There WAS/IS/WILL - ETERNALLY - ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY ... as to your reference to historical CLAIMS - you realise the difference as to your insinuation - it is no secret that all sorts of claims have been made by all sorts of existences ... therefore it is said: you will KNOW the truth and the truth is going to set you free NOT you will be TOLD the truth....
"The most ruthless will naturally rise to the top. Mix in some greed, you have current society." ... which are the birth pangs of THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ... whether someone believes it or not. THE TRUTH is existence not non-existence. Which is why wo/man are made in THE IMAGE OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
Ecological and evolutionary science show dynamics and many examples of co-operation and mutualism.
Your ideas of "dominance" are anti-science and reflect a 19th century social darwinism, tainted by 20th century socio-biology and eugenics. Please stop.
The only thing which could possibly give meaning to the hell we live in right now. But maybe that's all it is - reality is simply hell. Maybe the nihilists have been right all along.
It’s my experience that if you want to be the life of the party, it’s best to downplay the part about how we are all actually living in hell. OTH, who really wants to be the life of this party?
When I first ran the thought experiment that “the world is evil”, I assumed it would lead to the worst type of pessimism and to nihilism (as that word is commonly used). But in fact, it did the opposite—all of history, religion, politics and economics suddenly made perfect sense...as grand deception. Once you start taking that perspective seriously, you can cut through the fake optimism and hopium that is driven into us and set about figuring out how to really deal with the world we have rather than with the promised one that's always kept just beyond reach. Obviously, the gnostics were on to something, which is why they've been rubbed out and memory holed by the orthodox and the imperialists throughout recorded history.
The meaning of life, to survive, dominant in the environment of our peers, and to propagate. This is what all Flora and fauna do. Humans are no different, regardless of our level of perceived consciousness. The most ruthless will naturally rise to the top. Mix in some greed, you have current society.
Indeed. If we're to buy the survival of the fittest then all is going according to plan.
Not really. "Fitness" is usually interpreted as dominating others but if you look at the real world the most helpful species are the most successful, like trees and grasses, fungi worms and bacteria. That's what real fitness is.
Right, let's twist it so it looks beautiful. Trees when they cast too much shade on shorter ones cut themselves down so those others can catch the sun. Or did the shorter ones end up moving away from the taller? Since they couldn't get the taller ones to "help"?
And I'm not even starting with humans. The helpful kind indeed up and until it suits them. Then the killing starts for the fittest to remain. How is that not fitness?
What authority has THE HUMAN MIND to decide what existences are allowed to propagate and which ones not. Your analogy is based on the notion of the 'R Dawkins sugarcoated poison pill' swallowed hook line and sinker.
Demanding to obey "rules based order" requires no permission from any authority, poison pill and all.
I have made this exact argument here many times, humans are biological creatures driven by the same parameters as other biological creatures. Most recently the idea that human competition is something that can be controlled or eliminated. Every species from bacteria to humans and beyond are in competition with each other, it is a fundamental part of biological survival. It cannot be eliminated or suppressed without doing damage to the species.
Do colours on a canvas compete to be the most important or prominent one. I haven't seen a painting of that one could call beautiful to resemble that kind of notion nor anything else in GOD ALMIGHTY'S CREATION for sake of completeness that resembles beauty in any shape or form. Look at modern architecture, 'art', 'music' (from hell) ... and think about it what is the most fundamental commonality that has changed determining the outcomes of mentioned aspects of life between 1500 - today... think about you WILL be surprised at first and then it will make so much more sense what is happening before our very own eyes.
Let me also remind you that religions throughout history have competed with each other, usually resulting in a holy war.
You make a reference to almighty god but which one ? There have been so many almighty gods throughout history that its hard to know which one you refer too.
Your casual use of language reveals the superficiality of THE HUMAN MIND making the comment. There WAS/IS/WILL - ETERNALLY - ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY ... as to your reference to historical CLAIMS - you realise the difference as to your insinuation - it is no secret that all sorts of claims have been made by all sorts of existences ... therefore it is said: you will KNOW the truth and the truth is going to set you free NOT you will be TOLD the truth....
No, you spout socio-biology and social Darwinist garbage.
Humans have consciousness which gives rise to moral responsibility.
"The most ruthless will naturally rise to the top. Mix in some greed, you have current society." ... which are the birth pangs of THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ... whether someone believes it or not. THE TRUTH is existence not non-existence. Which is why wo/man are made in THE IMAGE OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
Ecological and evolutionary science show dynamics and many examples of co-operation and mutualism.
Your ideas of "dominance" are anti-science and reflect a 19th century social darwinism, tainted by 20th century socio-biology and eugenics. Please stop.